I dunno remember the last person who said this about SOE? That famous thread on the SWG forums about that guy who has a friend whose uncle did a focus test for SOE or something and then listed what turned out to be the NGE lol.
I'm inclined to believe this, just the dumb move SOE would do.
God they're always so depressing to see, just a load of obese 40 year old geeks who have no social life and it's always in some horrible looking Vegas Hotel which is so cheap and tackey. There is like 100 people who turn up compared to the giant numbers of every other developer event because SOE have no fans left, only hardcore dedicated EQ fanbois, who for some reason failed to jump ship back in 2002.
They wont even have new fans visiting for Planetside 2 cause that game sucks and no one likes it, the population is on constant decline because SOE released it too early like they always do. We keep telling them every beta that first impressions count the most, you'll never get those players back and it's always "releasing in 2 weeks" and a giant outrage on the beta forums.
There is like 100 people who turn up compared to the giant numbers of every other developer event because SOE have no fans left, only hardcore dedicated EQ fanbois, who for some reason failed to jump ship back in 2002.
name another company specific fan event beyond Blizzard
God they're always so depressing to see, just a load of obese 40 year old geeks who have no social life and it's always in some horrible looking Vegas Hotel which is so cheap and tackey.
While true, this has little to do with the actual game but more so with the United States.
You can go to any tech event, to Blizzcon, E3, CES, to any event in the US and you will find obese people at abnormal proportions.
Don't blame a game for what is a nationwide problem in the US.
I know many Japanese EQ players and none of them are obese.
I actually hope you're correct.. or your friend rather. I for one am sick of spending the money on my PC to upgrade over and over again for games that still need to be continually patched due to the millions of system configurations they're working with.
I'm getting older.. Spending money on my PC isn't cool anymore. Having a tricked out rig is getting as ridiculous to me as having a tricked out car. At this point, I would rather by a PS4 that I can use for 5-7 years. Do you know how much money I have spent on my pc in 5-7 years? I routinely buy a new card, 300-400 dollars every two years or so.
I'm guess I'm saying that at this time, I would rather have a nice Cadillac cts then a Honda Civic in which I continuously sink money. If Sony did do this, it would be a step in a good direction for me at least.
I routinely buy a new card, 300-400 dollars every two years or so.
You complain that PC are expensive but then you waste that amount of money on a graphics card every 2 years? That makes little to no sense. Most $200 graphics card last 3-4 years.
And consoles being cheaper is such a fallacy, a TV that actually has no input lag costs tons of money.
Anyway, good luck buying your PS4 which is nothing but an outdated higher clocked AMD bobcat core with facebook integration.
The console solution aims at the mean of performance, but trades off content and interface. The problem with a universal system is that you lose choice. I don't particularly like having to upgrade, but I Hate not being able to upgrade. Consoles are the communism of the gaming world.
To me, it doesn't make sense at all, but I guess SOE is prone to not making sense every now and then.
If they were going console with a brand new MMO franchise, it actually would make sense. But to go console-first with the sequel of a game that made a lot of people buy PCs, was one of the beacons of online PC gaming and therefore is a huge legacy among PC gamers... That's like making a conscious effort to get rid of your existing fanbase.
It would not be like Dust 514. It would be way worse.
I routinely buy a new card, 300-400 dollars every two years or so.
You complain that PC are expensive but then you waste that amount of money on a graphics card every 2 years? That makes little to no sense. Most $200 graphics card last 3-4 years.
And consoles being cheaper is such a fallacy, a TV that actually has no input lag costs tons of money.
Anyway, good luck buying your PS4 which is nothing but an outdated higher clocked AMD bobcat core with facebook integration.
Wow... such anger within you... Did a ps3 harm you in some way in the past? lol - Or you're just one of those "PC" folks that is hardcore and hates consoles...
A $200 card doesn't last 4 years and you're argument is striaght up dumb. Part of the reason I complain that PC's are too expensive is directly related to buying a new card every two years. Most people on this site more then likely buy a card every year or two for sure. I'm not sure how you're stretching your $200 cards to last 4 years, but whatever.
So bascially I'm calling extreme bullshit on your statement that buying a card every two years is excessive. Might one ask how often you upgrade? Please tell me how much you would spend on your magic PC in a 7 year period? What are you rocking currently?
I routinely buy a new card, 300-400 dollars every two years or so.
You complain that PC are expensive but then you waste that amount of money on a graphics card every 2 years? That makes little to no sense. Most $200 graphics card last 3-4 years.
And consoles being cheaper is such a fallacy, a TV that actually has no input lag costs tons of money.
Anyway, good luck buying your PS4 which is nothing but an outdated higher clocked AMD bobcat core with facebook integration.
Wow... such anger within you... Did a ps3 harm you in some way in the past? lol - Or you're just one of those "PC" folks that is hardcore and hates consoles...
A $200 card doesn't last 4 years and you're argument is striaght up dumb. Part of the reason I complain that PC's are too expensive is directly related to buying a new card every two years. Most people on this site more then likely buy a card every year or two for sure. I'm not sure how you're stretching your $200 cards to last 4 years, but whatever.
So bascially I'm calling extreme bullshit on your statement that buying a card every two years is excessive. Might one ask how often you upgrade? Please tell me how much you would spend on your magic PC in a 7 year period? What are you rocking currently?
I'll step up to this. Consoles are fine but they are a common denominator tool versus PCs that are usually pushing the boundaries. Were it that consoles took over, I would have missed many games that consoles of the time either could not run, or would have been so restricted in either storage or interface that they would have been shit.
Consoles being forced on the PC world would be great for designers, but the games that could not be created due to universal hardware restrictions would be legion.
5770 and an AMD X3, haven't upgraded it in 4 years since every PC game I throw at it runs, the only time I can get it to lag is if I turn on 4xAA, which I don't even notice in the game
Others won't call this guy a liar, but I will. He's a liar. SOE currently does not have a studio in Washington state. They closed it down back in 2011. If you read his follow up posts, he is obviously a Playstation fanboy.
I suppose your card just runs better then the average gamer? Also, if you haven't upgraded in 4 years, what kind of monitor are you using? What resolution? On my 27" running 1920 x 1080, those games would not be "smooth" with your card. If you only upgrade once every 5 years.. you are not the average PC gamer... If you're playing with an old ass 15-17" monitor, then yeah, otherwise no.
I don't believe that a card every two years is excessive.
I suppose your card just runs better then the average gamer? Also, if you haven't upgraded in 4 years, what kind of monitor are you using? What resolution? On my 27" running 1920 x 1080, those games would not be "smooth" with your card. If you only upgrade once every 5 years.. you are not the average PC gamer... If you're playing with an old ass 15-17" monitor, then yeah, otherwise no.
I don't believe that a card every two years is excessive.
Sorry, but you don't NEED to update a card every two years, unless you get a low to mid quality card every two years of course.
I'm running an AMD Athlon II x4 620 2.6 GHz Quad Core Processor, 8 GB DDR3, nVidia Geforce GTX 285, and a 750 Gb RAID 0 setup that I built almost 4 years ago. The only updating I needed to do was to bring my RAM up to 8 GB from 6... I've run everything on max that I've come across so far without problems (with the exception of Skyrim with beautification mods and Dead Space 3), but upgrading my RAM by 2 GB fixed the Skyrim issue. Granted, I most likely will have to update my GPU soon, especially if I want to run Dead Space on graphics options higher than I have it set to right now, but it's worked well for me for almost 4 years now...
If a person was to build a desktop PC today and install say an nVidia Geforce 660 TI (runs about $200), I would expect them to have similar results as to what I've hade with my 285...
*EDITED because I entered the wrong processor... my bad for remembering precisely which model I had...*
I suppose your card just runs better then the average gamer? Also, if you haven't upgraded in 4 years, what kind of monitor are you using? What resolution? On my 27" running 1920 x 1080, those games would not be "smooth" with your card. If you only upgrade once every 5 years.. you are not the average PC gamer... If you're playing with an old ass 15-17" monitor, then yeah, otherwise no.
I don't believe that a card every two years is excessive.
Sorry, but you don't NEED to update a card every two years, unless you get a low to mid quality card every two years of course.
I'm running an AMD Athlon II x4 620 2.6 GHz Quad Core Processor, 8 GB DDR3, nVidia Geforce GTX 285, and a 750 Gb RAID 0 setup that I built almost 4 years ago. The only updating I needed to do was to bring my RAM up to 8 GB from 6... I've run everything on max that I've come across so far without problems (with the exception of Skyrim with beautification mods and Dead Space 3), but upgrading my RAM by 2 GB fixed the Skyrim issue. Granted, I most likely will have to update my GPU soon, especially if I want to run Dead Space on graphics options higher than I have it set to right now, but it's worked well for me for almost 4 years now...
If a person was to build a desktop PC today and install say an nVidia Geforce 660 TI (runs about $200), I would expect them to have similar results as to what I've hade with my 285...
*EDITED because I entered the wrong processor... my bad for remembering precisely which model I had...*
The card you mentioned cost $250 now... if you can find it.. which is hard as it was discontinued. Do you know how much it cost in 2009? More then $200.00.
I suppose your card just runs better then the average gamer? Also, if you haven't upgraded in 4 years, what kind of monitor are you using? What resolution? On my 27" running 1920 x 1080, those games would not be "smooth" with your card. If you only upgrade once every 5 years.. you are not the average PC gamer... If you're playing with an old ass 15-17" monitor, then yeah, otherwise no.
I don't believe that a card every two years is excessive.
I have a GTX260/1.8GB that came with my machine in 2009 and is just short of 4 years old. The desktop is an i7/920, 9GB ram, GTX260, and a single 7200rpm hard drive with a 24" 1920x1080 monitor. I run current games (GW2, TSW, Tera) along with older games (STO, LotRO, EQ2) on High+ settings with 35 - 60fps (depending on the game) and they still look better than console graphics. Rift is the only game I've played in the last couple of years where I couldn't get above around 45fps on average no matter what settings I used.
I could upgrade the card and power supply and have thought about it, but it's not worth it at this point. Why would I?
Not only can the system game, but I use it for work. It runs a development sql server, visual studio 2010, office 2010, and other dev tools. The console isn't going to do any of that. So I'm paying several hundred dollars just for a dedicated gaming machine? The value is questionable for me.
The card you mention is around $200.00 to purchase at this moment. Do you know how much it cost back in 2009? Around $379-$400.
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Assuming this OP isn't fictional..
Am I the ONLY one that read that it would be coming out for PC after the PS4? It's not "Console Only" ... Jeez people. READ.
It hurts. It physically hurts knowing the average person out there has the attention span of a dementia patient.
Obligatory "=)"
SOE Fanfaire is in 5 months Aug 1st - 4th
https://www.soe.com/soelive/faq.vm
EQ2 fan sites
I dunno remember the last person who said this about SOE? That famous thread on the SWG forums about that guy who has a friend whose uncle did a focus test for SOE or something and then listed what turned out to be the NGE lol.
I'm inclined to believe this, just the dumb move SOE would do.
God they're always so depressing to see, just a load of obese 40 year old geeks who have no social life and it's always in some horrible looking Vegas Hotel which is so cheap and tackey. There is like 100 people who turn up compared to the giant numbers of every other developer event because SOE have no fans left, only hardcore dedicated EQ fanbois, who for some reason failed to jump ship back in 2002.
They wont even have new fans visiting for Planetside 2 cause that game sucks and no one likes it, the population is on constant decline because SOE released it too early like they always do. We keep telling them every beta that first impressions count the most, you'll never get those players back and it's always "releasing in 2 weeks" and a giant outrage on the beta forums.
name another company specific fan event beyond Blizzard
not many mmo companies hold their own events
EQ2 fan sites
While true, this has little to do with the actual game but more so with the United States.
You can go to any tech event, to Blizzcon, E3, CES, to any event in the US and you will find obese people at abnormal proportions.
Don't blame a game for what is a nationwide problem in the US.
I know many Japanese EQ players and none of them are obese.
EQ players are in better shape than the average person in the US: http://www.livescience.com/2907-video-gamers-surprisingly-fit-older.html
Survivor of the great MMORPG Famine of 2011
I can see this game coming out on both the PS4 and PC cocurrently, if that is even possible. More people playing = more money right?
I would be shocked if it was released only on the PS4.
I actually hope you're correct.. or your friend rather. I for one am sick of spending the money on my PC to upgrade over and over again for games that still need to be continually patched due to the millions of system configurations they're working with.
I'm getting older.. Spending money on my PC isn't cool anymore. Having a tricked out rig is getting as ridiculous to me as having a tricked out car. At this point, I would rather by a PS4 that I can use for 5-7 years. Do you know how much money I have spent on my pc in 5-7 years? I routinely buy a new card, 300-400 dollars every two years or so.
I'm guess I'm saying that at this time, I would rather have a nice Cadillac cts then a Honda Civic in which I continuously sink money. If Sony did do this, it would be a step in a good direction for me at least.
You complain that PC are expensive but then you waste that amount of money on a graphics card every 2 years? That makes little to no sense. Most $200 graphics card last 3-4 years.
And consoles being cheaper is such a fallacy, a TV that actually has no input lag costs tons of money.
Anyway, good luck buying your PS4 which is nothing but an outdated higher clocked AMD bobcat core with facebook integration.
Survivor of the great MMORPG Famine of 2011
theres been no details yet beyond past statements by SOE that all their future games would be multiplatform
what we do know
- DCUO had a simultaneous launch on both PC and console
- PS2, a game that uses the same game engine as EQ3, has only launched on the PC
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/111555-EverQuest-Next-and-Planetside-2-To-Use-New-Forge-Light-Engine
EQ2 fan sites
Sounds like a good way to blow your own foot off. Go ahead, push your core audience into the arms of another deverloper/game.
I'm wiling to believe it, because I know how stupid SOE can be.
To me, it doesn't make sense at all, but I guess SOE is prone to not making sense every now and then.
If they were going console with a brand new MMO franchise, it actually would make sense. But to go console-first with the sequel of a game that made a lot of people buy PCs, was one of the beacons of online PC gaming and therefore is a huge legacy among PC gamers... That's like making a conscious effort to get rid of your existing fanbase.
It would not be like Dust 514. It would be way worse.
lol
Wow... such anger within you... Did a ps3 harm you in some way in the past? lol - Or you're just one of those "PC" folks that is hardcore and hates consoles...
A $200 card doesn't last 4 years and you're argument is striaght up dumb. Part of the reason I complain that PC's are too expensive is directly related to buying a new card every two years. Most people on this site more then likely buy a card every year or two for sure. I'm not sure how you're stretching your $200 cards to last 4 years, but whatever.
So bascially I'm calling extreme bullshit on your statement that buying a card every two years is excessive. Might one ask how often you upgrade? Please tell me how much you would spend on your magic PC in a 7 year period? What are you rocking currently?
I'll step up to this. Consoles are fine but they are a common denominator tool versus PCs that are usually pushing the boundaries. Were it that consoles took over, I would have missed many games that consoles of the time either could not run, or would have been so restricted in either storage or interface that they would have been shit.
Consoles being forced on the PC world would be great for designers, but the games that could not be created due to universal hardware restrictions would be legion.
Survivor of the great MMORPG Famine of 2011
Really.
ATI 4850, $199 on launch http://www.anandtech.com/show/2556
5 years old
running tera without any lag: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6V64aAJNNII
running skyrim without any lag: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnzPXJG3Kl8
You said you needed a $400 card every 2 years.
5770 and an AMD X3, haven't upgraded it in 4 years since every PC game I throw at it runs, the only time I can get it to lag is if I turn on 4xAA, which I don't even notice in the game
That's funny... it's funny because there are cards newer then yours that can't seem to handle new games very well..
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2012-vga-gpgpu/06-Crysis-2-DirectX-9-B-Performance,Marque_fbrandx32,2947.html
These newer cards at the bottom are just cutting it, yet I'm to believe that your card out performs them?
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-650-ti-benchmark-gk106,3318-11.html
I suppose your card just runs better then the average gamer? Also, if you haven't upgraded in 4 years, what kind of monitor are you using? What resolution? On my 27" running 1920 x 1080, those games would not be "smooth" with your card. If you only upgrade once every 5 years.. you are not the average PC gamer... If you're playing with an old ass 15-17" monitor, then yeah, otherwise no.
I don't believe that a card every two years is excessive.
Sorry, but you don't NEED to update a card every two years, unless you get a low to mid quality card every two years of course.
I'm running an AMD Athlon II x4 620 2.6 GHz Quad Core Processor, 8 GB DDR3, nVidia Geforce GTX 285, and a 750 Gb RAID 0 setup that I built almost 4 years ago. The only updating I needed to do was to bring my RAM up to 8 GB from 6... I've run everything on max that I've come across so far without problems (with the exception of Skyrim with beautification mods and Dead Space 3), but upgrading my RAM by 2 GB fixed the Skyrim issue. Granted, I most likely will have to update my GPU soon, especially if I want to run Dead Space on graphics options higher than I have it set to right now, but it's worked well for me for almost 4 years now...
If a person was to build a desktop PC today and install say an nVidia Geforce 660 TI (runs about $200), I would expect them to have similar results as to what I've hade with my 285...
*EDITED because I entered the wrong processor... my bad for remembering precisely which model I had...*
The card you mentioned cost $250 now... if you can find it.. which is hard as it was discontinued. Do you know how much it cost in 2009? More then $200.00.
Also... the 660 TI runs around $300. Not $200.
Thanks,
The card you mention is around $200.00 to purchase at this moment. Do you know how much it cost back in 2009? Around $379-$400.
Thanks,