Texas teenager who has been in jail since March faces an eight-year prison sentence because of a threatening joke he made while playing an online video game.
It does seem kind of bizarre, but then we're talking about a country that allows 4 year olds to possess and use firearms, so perhaps common sense is is not applicable.
We (the internet) should make some noise about this.
Yes because saying:
'Oh yeah, I’m real messed up in the head, I’m going to go shoot up a school full of kids and eat their still, beating hearts.’
is a total logic and sane reply to someone calling you insane?
He should've been smart and ignored the person who called him insane.
I get it was meant to be a joke and that he wasn't really going to do all that stuff, but if we'd let every real killer walk free when he/she says 'lol' or 'jk' we would be in a shit load of problems right now..
STOOPID When someone does something so utterly moronic that it kills your brain cells at the very thought of it.
that's not the first time a person got "punished" for something he wrote online. the most "players" think: internet = anonymous... but thats not right. when someone threatens you in a game you can take logs and screenshots to a lawyer . it would take some month but the "threatener" will get punished if it is "hard" enough. just think about it when you guys threaten someone via internet..
btw.. someone on facebook with a false name got arrested because of racial slur...
just think about it
That's actually ok, since issuing serious threats IS illegal in every country I know of, and rightly so.
The police must check reports like this, but given the information in the news article it should take them no more than five min to call it off as a false alarm.
I am starting to think there must be more to this than what they are telling us as well. It's the story in the newspaper which is outrageous if true.
"But a Canadian woman who saw the post looked up Carters Austin address, determined that it was near an elementary school, and called the police."
That right there is the whole crux of the problem. "Some lady" decided he was serious and called the authorities. In the atmosphere of League of Legends, this "some lady" should be charged for the waste of time, money, and resources she wasted.
I applaud the petition and the poignant "First Amendment" rights reiteration.
Next Stop: Thought Police.
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse. - FARGIN_WAR
We (the internet) should make some noise about this.
Yes because saying:
'Oh yeah, I’m real messed up in the head, I’m going to go shoot up a school full of kids and eat their still, beating hearts.’
is a total logic and sane reply to someone calling you insane?
He should've been smart and ignored the person who called him insane.
I get it was meant to be a joke and that he wasn't really going to do all that stuff, but if we'd let every real killer walk free when he/she says 'lol' or 'jk' we would be in a shit load of problems right now..
That's just splitting hairs. No sane person alive would disagree with you that it is "wrong" to joke around with stuff like that. It's the old "shouting 'fire' in a crowded theatre" argument.
I'm not upset that everyone in the world think it's a bad idea to joke about shooting children, it obviously is. I am upset that someone risks 8 years in prison and his life in ruins over a stupid joke. Words. Expression. It happens in places you don't want to live. Stop it from happening where you live if you can.
Just because you read something on the Internet doesn't make it true. Just because other Internet sites repeat the story, it still doesn't make it true. I'll be very surprised if it is.
"But a Canadian woman who saw the post looked up Carter’s Austin address, determined that it was near an elementary school, and called the police."
That right there is the whole crux of the problem. "Some lady" decided he was serious and called the authorities. In the atmosphere of League of Legends, this "some lady" should be charged for the waste of time, money, and resources she wasted.
I applaud the petition and the poignant "First Amendment" rights reiteration.
Next Stop: Thought Police.
Thought Police? Really?
This is a threat, Joke or Not it IS a terrorist threat. Do you walk through an airport and talk about Hijacking a Plane? Try it. See what Happens. The Sad part is we are stuck with NO OTHER CHOICE. Kids ARE shooting up Schools and small threats looked at as jokes and dark humor are over looked and the ones who pay are innocent Kids. These are NOT jokes. Jokes indicate Humor and there is nothing funny about this
First amendment rights? what about the rights of dead Children and Ruined Lives?
Look back at the school shootings of the past. the killers made similar jokes and were ignored,
bottom line if it is a Joke. Use your Brain first.
As for "Some Lady" I think you prove the point for the side of the law. She felt it was real enough to go through the effort of looking him up and turning him in. GOOD FOR HER.
Yeah and what happens if this kid dies in jail? Over some stupid sentence that is not even close to the worst thing i've heard in online games. I love my country, and I love my state (Tx), but it is run by some of the dumbest people in history. Hope this kid is able to stay safe..
Originally posted by Phry It does seem kind of bizarre, but then we're talking about a country that allows 4 year olds to possess and use firearms, so perhaps common sense is is not applicable.
Dafuq? LOL! So where are you from, so I can make blind, ignorant comments about your country?
Funniest thing I've seen yet. My country has its problems, but damned if I don't find the warped opinions about it by those who have probably never stepped foot in it entertaining as hell.
"You'll never win an argument with an idiot because he is too stupid to recognize his own defeat." ~Anonymous
Originally posted by AvatarBlade So talking stupid on the internet gets you 8 years in prison. The US really is the land of all possibilities, if it's possible for something like this to happen...
It's all in who you know even in the judicial system.
I don't have much faith in government and neither should you. I once heard that the world is run by a handful of rich tycoons. When you see the unexplainable happen, you scratch your head, and then you start to believe your just a pawn in the big picture. The big picture is the suppression of human lives for the entertainment of those tycoons.
You name it, they want drama
Health care, economy, war, gay marriage, religious freedom, ...................... As the chess pieces move around the drama meter spikes up, the tycoons grab up some popcorn and enjoy the show.
Why else are we always facing problems and never solving them?
Originally posted by Phry It does seem kind of bizarre, but then we're talking about a country that allows 4 year olds to possess and use firearms, so perhaps common sense is is not applicable.
Dafuq? LOL! So where are you from, so I can make blind, ignorant comments about your country?
Funniest thing I've seen yet. My country has its problems, but damned if I don't find the warped opinions about it by those who have probably never stepped foot in it entertaining as hell.
you ever get the feeling some people think the US is alternating regions of Klan rallies and gang warfare?
An adult, (he's 19 btw) being held accountable for violent threats he made against children? Seems rather legit to me. Of course he is said he was joking once he was held accountable. We need more of this, not people defending an idiot who gets his jollies off by spewing crap on the internet.
Originally posted by GoldenArrow ConsequencesExactly what we need on the interwebs.
We also need context.
He was called "insane." He jokingly illustrated that remark in very clever way using a VERY insane action as an example. At least *he* thought it insane enough to use it as an illustration of insanity.
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse. - FARGIN_WAR
Apparently on the internet "lol jk" absolves you of any and all responsibility or consequences to statements made by you.
Im glad real life is not policed by the internet.
100% Correct.
Not to mention, that's what his DAD said the next 2 lines were, Like he was standing over him watching this conversation. and if he was he had no sense to stop him from making a STUPID threatening comment like that? That would make him just as stupid as his kid.
Originally posted by zymurgeist You people are so gullible. It takes two days to get bail and six weeks to get a hearing for a writ.
Under "anti-terrorist" laws, aka Patriot Act?
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse. - FARGIN_WAR
For some people, being able to say wtf they want when and wherever they want, may well lead to the belief that they can DO wtf they want, when and wherever they want.
Perhaps the court is trying to decide the likelihood of this individual acting out his "threats" at some point.
Whenever there's an incident where some individual succeeds in killing dozens of innocents by some violent acts, there's usually a great deal of soul searching and finger-pointing to find someone to blame. "Why did the police/FBI/social services not pick up this threat before it happened ?"
But if any of these agencies take any form of action before the actual crime is committed, everyone loudly complains about "fascism" and the impending "police state".
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why dont you guys read the article again?
his threat of shooting up a school blabla has been set as a terroristic act... THAT is the reason he got jailed and FACING up to 8 years..
I actually read few stories about this kid, this is the first one where it claims he's been playing a video game....
I've seen he wrote it on facebook and some lady took interest because he lives near some school and she reported him to the police.
"Happiness is not a destination. It is a method of life."
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Yes because saying:
'Oh yeah, I’m real messed up in the head, I’m going to go shoot up a school full of kids and eat their still, beating hearts.’
is a total logic and sane reply to someone calling you insane?
He should've been smart and ignored the person who called him insane.
I get it was meant to be a joke and that he wasn't really going to do all that stuff, but if we'd let every real killer walk free when he/she says 'lol' or 'jk' we would be in a shit load of problems right now..
STOOPID
When someone does something so utterly moronic that it kills your brain cells at the very thought of it.
That's actually ok, since issuing serious threats IS illegal in every country I know of, and rightly so.
The police must check reports like this, but given the information in the news article it should take them no more than five min to call it off as a false alarm.
I am starting to think there must be more to this than what they are telling us as well. It's the story in the newspaper which is outrageous if true.
Nope.
Another thing that makes this one sided.
the kid said,
“He replied ‘Oh yeah, I’m real messed up in the head, I’m going to go shoot up a school full of kids and eat their still, beating hearts"
and yet his dad says,
“Justin was the kind of kid who didn’t read the newspaper,” said Jack Carter. “He didn’t watch television. He wasn’t aware of current events."
Doesn't know Current events so if that's the case, that makes that threat sound even more real then, doesn't it?
"But a Canadian woman who saw the post looked up Carters Austin address, determined that it was near an elementary school, and called the police."
That right there is the whole crux of the problem. "Some lady" decided he was serious and called the authorities. In the atmosphere of League of Legends, this "some lady" should be charged for the waste of time, money, and resources she wasted.
I applaud the petition and the poignant "First Amendment" rights reiteration.
Next Stop: Thought Police.
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.- FARGIN_WAR
That's just splitting hairs. No sane person alive would disagree with you that it is "wrong" to joke around with stuff like that. It's the old "shouting 'fire' in a crowded theatre" argument.
I'm not upset that everyone in the world think it's a bad idea to joke about shooting children, it obviously is. I am upset that someone risks 8 years in prison and his life in ruins over a stupid joke. Words. Expression. It happens in places you don't want to live. Stop it from happening where you live if you can.
i wonder if all these people will be rounded up for their threats as well
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/06/27/if-zimmerman-get-off-ima-go-kill-a-white-boy-trayvon-martin-supporters-make-shocking-threats-ahead-of-verdict/
Thought Police? Really?
This is a threat, Joke or Not it IS a terrorist threat. Do you walk through an airport and talk about Hijacking a Plane? Try it. See what Happens. The Sad part is we are stuck with NO OTHER CHOICE. Kids ARE shooting up Schools and small threats looked at as jokes and dark humor are over looked and the ones who pay are innocent Kids. These are NOT jokes. Jokes indicate Humor and there is nothing funny about this
First amendment rights? what about the rights of dead Children and Ruined Lives?
Look back at the school shootings of the past. the killers made similar jokes and were ignored,
bottom line if it is a Joke. Use your Brain first.
As for "Some Lady" I think you prove the point for the side of the law. She felt it was real enough to go through the effort of looking him up and turning him in. GOOD FOR HER.
Yeah and what happens if this kid dies in jail? Over some stupid sentence that is not even close to the worst thing i've heard in online games. I love my country, and I love my state (Tx), but it is run by some of the dumbest people in history. Hope this kid is able to stay safe..
Dafuq? LOL! So where are you from, so I can make blind, ignorant comments about your country?
Funniest thing I've seen yet. My country has its problems, but damned if I don't find the warped opinions about it by those who have probably never stepped foot in it entertaining as hell.
"You'll never win an argument with an idiot because he is too stupid to recognize his own defeat." ~Anonymous
It's all in who you know even in the judicial system.
I don't have much faith in government and neither should you. I once heard that the world is run by a handful of rich tycoons. When you see the unexplainable happen, you scratch your head, and then you start to believe your just a pawn in the big picture. The big picture is the suppression of human lives for the entertainment of those tycoons.
You name it, they want drama
Health care, economy, war, gay marriage, religious freedom, ...................... As the chess pieces move around the drama meter spikes up, the tycoons grab up some popcorn and enjoy the show.
Why else are we always facing problems and never solving them?
"But a Canadian woman who saw the post looked up Carter’s Austin address, determined that it was near an elementary school, and called the police."
Wait, wasn't he "playing the game" just two paragraphs up? Now it's a "post"? Which?
This story just reeks of weak reporting.
Oh wait, it's a blog. Don't believe everything (anything?) you read on the internet.
And here in the Huffington Post (another thoroughly reliable source), it's supposed to be a Facebook comment....
"Carter and a friend got into an Facebook argument..."
Robert Soave just did a classic re-blog. And stole his article (presumably from HP) without attribution.
Apparently on the internet "lol jk" absolves you of any and all responsibility or consequences to statements made by you.
Im glad real life is not policed by the internet.
you ever get the feeling some people think the US is alternating regions of Klan rallies and gang warfare?
He was called "insane." He jokingly illustrated that remark in very clever way using a VERY insane action as an example. At least *he* thought it insane enough to use it as an illustration of insanity.
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.- FARGIN_WAR
100% Correct.
Not to mention, that's what his DAD said the next 2 lines were, Like he was standing over him watching this conversation. and if he was he had no sense to stop him from making a STUPID threatening comment like that? That would make him just as stupid as his kid.
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.- FARGIN_WAR
you really think someone should be put in jail for something they said, if (IF) there is no evidence that they would actually have ever done it?
whats next, political views get you put in jail? (oh wait we already did that...)
For some people, being able to say wtf they want when and wherever they want, may well lead to the belief that they can DO wtf they want, when and wherever they want.
Perhaps the court is trying to decide the likelihood of this individual acting out his "threats" at some point.
Whenever there's an incident where some individual succeeds in killing dozens of innocents by some violent acts, there's usually a great deal of soul searching and finger-pointing to find someone to blame. "Why did the police/FBI/social services not pick up this threat before it happened ?"
But if any of these agencies take any form of action before the actual crime is committed, everyone loudly complains about "fascism" and the impending "police state".
Damned if you do, damned if you don't...