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SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775

Steam helps alot but I got to say indie or not if it says 'action' or 'shooter' I pass.

I am all for a good genocide but my god enough already!

Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.

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  • DamonVileDamonVile Member UncommonPosts: 4,818
    lol  ...good luck with that.
  • TheQuietGamerTheQuietGamer Member Posts: 317
    Originally posted by SEANMCAD

    Steam helps alot but I got to say indie or not if it says 'action' or 'shooter' I pass.

    I am all for a good genocide but my god enough already!

    haha, fun post cause you left it so open to interpretation as to be meaningless.  

  • tawesstawess Member EpicPosts: 4,227
    can i suggest Sniper elite 3.. the x-ray slow-mo hits are the bomb.. =P

    This have been a good conversation

  • WaterlilyWaterlily Member UncommonPosts: 3,105

    We haven't bought a PS4 yet because there are so many shooters and so few RPG or fun non-shooter games so far.

    Not that into indie to be honest. They are too low quality usually.

  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    Originally posted by Waterlily

    We haven't bought a PS4 yet because there are so many shooters and so few RPG or fun non-shooter games so far.

    Not that into indie to be honest. They are too low quality usually.

    I totally get that. I do indie because I want more varied game play but your right, very few with super high end graphics

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  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    Originally posted by TheQuietGamer
    Originally posted by SEANMCAD

    Steam helps alot but I got to say indie or not if it says 'action' or 'shooter' I pass.

    I am all for a good genocide but my god enough already!

    haha, fun post cause you left it so open to interpretation as to be meaningless.  

    its all John Carmacks fault. That damn Doom game

    Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.

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  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    Originally posted by DMKano
    Originally posted by SEANMCAD
    Originally posted by TheQuietGamer
    Originally posted by SEANMCAD

    Steam helps alot but I got to say indie or not if it says 'action' or 'shooter' I pass.

    I am all for a good genocide but my god enough already!

    haha, fun post cause you left it so open to interpretation as to be meaningless.  

    its all John Carmacks fault. That damn Doom game

    Humans are a violent species - look at our history, look at our present -  over time we've gotten exceedingly good at one thing - killing.

     

    on average we kill less than we dont. Other than for dinner.

    Besides, how many of us walk around in the world packing heat? i mean really. compared to games its insane.

     

    our true violent nature can be experienced in the Eating Simulator!

     

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  • DamonVileDamonVile Member UncommonPosts: 4,818
    Originally posted by SEANMCAD
    Originally posted by DMKano
    Originally posted by SEANMCAD
    Originally posted by TheQuietGamer
    Originally posted by SEANMCAD

    Steam helps alot but I got to say indie or not if it says 'action' or 'shooter' I pass.

    I am all for a good genocide but my god enough already!

    haha, fun post cause you left it so open to interpretation as to be meaningless.  

    its all John Carmacks fault. That damn Doom game

    Humans are a violent species - look at our history, look at our present -  over time we've gotten exceedingly good at one thing - killing.

     

    on average we kill less than we dont. Other than for dinner.

    Besides, how many of us walk around in the world packing heat? i mean really. compared to games its insane.

     

    our true violent nature can be experienced in the Eating Simulator!

     

    What's really crazy is the direct relationship you attribute to killing in a game vrs killing in real life. Ripping a peace of paper is violent and has about as much meaning as shooting a pixel in a game to a normal person.

  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    Originally posted by DamonVile
    Originally posted by SEANMCAD
    Originally posted by DMKano
    Originally posted by SEANMCAD
    Originally posted by TheQuietGamer
    Originally posted by SEANMCAD

    Steam helps alot but I got to say indie or not if it says 'action' or 'shooter' I pass.

    I am all for a good genocide but my god enough already!

    haha, fun post cause you left it so open to interpretation as to be meaningless.  

    its all John Carmacks fault. That damn Doom game

    Humans are a violent species - look at our history, look at our present -  over time we've gotten exceedingly good at one thing - killing.

     

    on average we kill less than we dont. Other than for dinner.

    Besides, how many of us walk around in the world packing heat? i mean really. compared to games its insane.

     

    our true violent nature can be experienced in the Eating Simulator!

     

    What's really crazy is the direct relationship you attribute to killing in a game vrs killing in real life. Ripping a peace of paper is violent and has about as much meaning as shooting a pixel in a game to a normal person.

    well I do not believe most people sleep at night dreaming of being able to shot people and then wake up happy that they found a game that allows them to.

    So.

    1. these games do not represent what we do in life

    2. these games do not represent what we want to do in life.

    so I guess what you are telling me is that there is a HUGE opportunirty here for developers, which is basically what I am saying. thus you agree with me

    Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.

    Please do not respond to me

  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    Originally posted by DMKano
    Originally posted by SEANMCAD
    Originally posted by DamonVile
    Originally posted by SEANMCAD
    Originally posted by DMKano
    Originally posted by SEANMCAD
    Originally posted by TheQuietGamer
    Originally posted by SEANMCAD

    Steam helps alot but I got to say indie or not if it says 'action' or 'shooter' I pass.

    I am all for a good genocide but my god enough already!

    haha, fun post cause you left it so open to interpretation as to be meaningless.  

    its all John Carmacks fault. That damn Doom game

    Humans are a violent species - look at our history, look at our present -  over time we've gotten exceedingly good at one thing - killing.

     

    on average we kill less than we dont. Other than for dinner.

    Besides, how many of us walk around in the world packing heat? i mean really. compared to games its insane.

     

    our true violent nature can be experienced in the Eating Simulator!

     

    What's really crazy is the direct relationship you attribute to killing in a game vrs killing in real life. Ripping a peace of paper is violent and has about as much meaning as shooting a pixel in a game to a normal person.

    well I do not believe most people sleep at night dreaming of being able to shot people and then wake up happy that they found a game that allows them to.

    So.

    1. these games do not represent what we do in life

    2. these games do not represent what we want to do in life.

    so I guess what you are telling me is that there is a HUGE opportunirty here for developers, which is basically what I am saying. thus you agree with me

    You are looking at it on an individual personal scale.

    Answer this question:

    What species displays the most violent tendencies toward it's own kind? 

    None come even close to humans - yes there are violent animals, but we are in a separate category.

    When it comes to violence - humans are kings of the hill.

    If our species were not violent by nature - our history would look very different

    The proof is in our actions as a species.

     

     

    I am not sure how that very clever wisdom of yours correlates to gaming. UNless of course you are talking about Farm Simiulator 

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  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    Originally posted by SEANMCAD

    What's really crazy is the direct relationship you attribute to killing in a game vrs killing in real life. Ripping a peace of paper is violent and has about as much meaning as shooting a pixel in a game to a normal person.

    well I do not believe most people sleep at night dreaming of being able to shot people and then wake up happy that they found a game that allows them to.

    So.

    1. these games do not represent what we do in life

    2. these games do not represent what we want to do in life.

    so I guess what you are telling me is that there is a HUGE opportunirty here for developers, which is basically what I am saying. thus you agree with me

    Not one of these again Sean :P...

    I'm sure most would agree there's room for every type of game imaginable. Yet many would probably also agree a certain segment reads far too much into the violence involved in such games. That segment usually doesn't include gamers themselves though. Very few games focus on killing for the sake of killing, unless it happens to be a satire or novelty like GTA... but that's an extreme example.

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    Originally posted by DMKano
    Originally posted by SEANMCAD
    Originally posted by DamonVile
    Originally posted by SEANMCAD
    Originally posted by DMKano
    Originally posted by SEANMCAD
    Originally posted by TheQuietGamer
    Originally posted by SEANMCAD

    Steam helps alot but I got to say indie or not if it says 'action' or 'shooter' I pass.

    I am all for a good genocide but my god enough already!

    haha, fun post cause you left it so open to interpretation as to be meaningless.  

    its all John Carmacks fault. That damn Doom game

    Humans are a violent species - look at our history, look at our present -  over time we've gotten exceedingly good at one thing - killing.

     

    on average we kill less than we dont. Other than for dinner.

    Besides, how many of us walk around in the world packing heat? i mean really. compared to games its insane.

     

    our true violent nature can be experienced in the Eating Simulator!

     

    What's really crazy is the direct relationship you attribute to killing in a game vrs killing in real life. Ripping a peace of paper is violent and has about as much meaning as shooting a pixel in a game to a normal person.

    well I do not believe most people sleep at night dreaming of being able to shot people and then wake up happy that they found a game that allows them to.

    So.

    1. these games do not represent what we do in life

    2. these games do not represent what we want to do in life.

    so I guess what you are telling me is that there is a HUGE opportunirty here for developers, which is basically what I am saying. thus you agree with me

    You are looking at it on an individual personal scale.

    Answer this question:

    What species displays the most violent tendencies toward it's own kind? 

    None come even close to humans - yes there are violent animals, but we are in a separate category.

    When it comes to violence - humans are kings of the hill.

    If our species were not violent by nature - our history would look very different

    The proof is in our actions as a species.

     

     

    I'd put us behind many species of insect in this regard...

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    Originally posted by Distopia
    Originally posted by SEANMCAD

    What's really crazy is the direct relationship you attribute to killing in a game vrs killing in real life. Ripping a peace of paper is violent and has about as much meaning as shooting a pixel in a game to a normal person.

    well I do not believe most people sleep at night dreaming of being able to shot people and then wake up happy that they found a game that allows them to.

    So.

    1. these games do not represent what we do in life

    2. these games do not represent what we want to do in life.

    so I guess what you are telling me is that there is a HUGE opportunirty here for developers, which is basically what I am saying. thus you agree with me

    Not one of these again Sean :P...

    I'm sure most would agree there's room for every type of game imaginable. Yet many would probably also agree a certain segment reads far too much into the violence involved in such games. That segment usually doesn't include gamers themselves though. Very few games focus on killing for the sake of killing, unless it happens to be a satire or novelty like GTA... but that's an extreme example.

    again.

    Most of us do not go around packing heat everyday and yet in games called 'first person shooters' which there are a fuck ton of, you kinda need a gun to play.

    Are you saying that there is not much opportunity for non-violent games because people dream about it at night and/or because we have farms? or are you just trying to argue for arguement sake?

    Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.

    Please do not respond to me

  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    Originally posted by SEANMCAD
    Originally posted by Distopia
    Originally posted by SEANMCAD

    What's really crazy is the direct relationship you attribute to killing in a game vrs killing in real life. Ripping a peace of paper is violent and has about as much meaning as shooting a pixel in a game to a normal person.

    well I do not believe most people sleep at night dreaming of being able to shot people and then wake up happy that they found a game that allows them to.

    So.

    1. these games do not represent what we do in life

    2. these games do not represent what we want to do in life.

    so I guess what you are telling me is that there is a HUGE opportunirty here for developers, which is basically what I am saying. thus you agree with me

    Not one of these again Sean :P...

    I'm sure most would agree there's room for every type of game imaginable. Yet many would probably also agree a certain segment reads far too much into the violence involved in such games. That segment usually doesn't include gamers themselves though. Very few games focus on killing for the sake of killing, unless it happens to be a satire or novelty like GTA... but that's an extreme example.

    again.

    Most of us do not go around packing heat everyday and yet in games called 'first person shooters' which there are a fuck ton of, you kinda need a gun to play.

    Are you saying that there is not much opportunity for non-violent games because people dream about it at night and/or because we have farms? or are you just trying to argue for arguement sake?

    Can't take such a question seriously when I receive this (orange) as a reply. I'm the one arguing for arguments sake?

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • orionblackorionblack Member UncommonPosts: 493
    Originally posted by SEANMCAD

    Steam helps alot but I got to say indie or not if it says 'action' or 'shooter' I pass.

    I am all for a good genocide but my god enough already!

    You know there's a Hello Kitty Online mmo....right?

     

     

  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    Originally posted by DMKano
    Originally posted by Distopia

    I'd put us behind many species of insect in this regard...

    I've never seen any insect species that murders and torture their own kind on a mass scale.

     

    which is completely un-important to the thread on more than one level.

    I never said violence toward other humans to begin with. talk about being out in left field. 

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  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    Originally posted by DMKano
    Originally posted by Distopia

    I'd put us behind many species of insect in this regard...

    I've never seen any insect species that murders and torture their own kind on a mass scale.

     

    I was referring to warfare, ants are some evil little critters.

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    Originally posted by Distopia
    Originally posted by SEANMCAD
    Originally posted by Distopia
    Originally posted by SEANMCAD

    What's really crazy is the direct relationship you attribute to killing in a game vrs killing in real life. Ripping a peace of paper is violent and has about as much meaning as shooting a pixel in a game to a normal person.

    well I do not believe most people sleep at night dreaming of being able to shot people and then wake up happy that they found a game that allows them to.

    So.

    1. these games do not represent what we do in life

    2. these games do not represent what we want to do in life.

    so I guess what you are telling me is that there is a HUGE opportunirty here for developers, which is basically what I am saying. thus you agree with me

    Not one of these again Sean :P...

    I'm sure most would agree there's room for every type of game imaginable. Yet many would probably also agree a certain segment reads far too much into the violence involved in such games. That segment usually doesn't include gamers themselves though. Very few games focus on killing for the sake of killing, unless it happens to be a satire or novelty like GTA... but that's an extreme example.

    again.

    Most of us do not go around packing heat everyday and yet in games called 'first person shooters' which there are a fuck ton of, you kinda need a gun to play.

    Are you saying that there is not much opportunity for non-violent games because people dream about it at night and/or because we have farms? or are you just trying to argue for arguement sake?

    Can't take such a question seriously when I receive this (orange) as a reply. I'm the one arguing for arguments sake?

    farming is where we kill the most.

    people do not dream at night wishing they could kill. so why would there not be opportunity for games that do no contain killing unless you want to make a dinner simulator.

     

    understand?

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  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    Originally posted by SEANMCAD
    Originally posted by Distopia
    Originally posted by SEANMCAD
    Originally posted by Distopia
    Originally posted by SEANMCAD

    What's really crazy is the direct relationship you attribute to killing in a game vrs killing in real life. Ripping a peace of paper is violent and has about as much meaning as shooting a pixel in a game to a normal person.

    well I do not believe most people sleep at night dreaming of being able to shot people and then wake up happy that they found a game that allows them to.

    So.

    1. these games do not represent what we do in life

    2. these games do not represent what we want to do in life.

    so I guess what you are telling me is that there is a HUGE opportunirty here for developers, which is basically what I am saying. thus you agree with me

    Not one of these again Sean :P...

    I'm sure most would agree there's room for every type of game imaginable. Yet many would probably also agree a certain segment reads far too much into the violence involved in such games. That segment usually doesn't include gamers themselves though. Very few games focus on killing for the sake of killing, unless it happens to be a satire or novelty like GTA... but that's an extreme example.

    again.

    Most of us do not go around packing heat everyday and yet in games called 'first person shooters' which there are a fuck ton of, you kinda need a gun to play.

    Are you saying that there is not much opportunity for non-violent games because people dream about it at night and/or because we have farms? or are you just trying to argue for arguement sake?

    Can't take such a question seriously when I receive this (orange) as a reply. I'm the one arguing for arguments sake?

    farming is where we kill the most.

    people do not dream at night wishing they could kill. so why would there not be opportunity for games that do no contain killing unless you want to make a dinner simulator.

     

    understand?

    I don't understand what it has to do with my post, I said what I meant to say pretty clearly.

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    Originally posted by Distopia
    Originally posted by SEANMCAD
    Originally posted by Distopia
    Originally posted by SEANMCAD
    Originally posted by Distopia
    Originally posted by SEANMCAD

    What's really crazy is the direct relationship you attribute to killing in a game vrs killing in real life. Ripping a peace of paper is violent and has about as much meaning as shooting a pixel in a game to a normal person.

    well I do not believe most people sleep at night dreaming of being able to shot people and then wake up happy that they found a game that allows them to.

    So.

    1. these games do not represent what we do in life

    2. these games do not represent what we want to do in life.

    so I guess what you are telling me is that there is a HUGE opportunirty here for developers, which is basically what I am saying. thus you agree with me

    Not one of these again Sean :P...

    I'm sure most would agree there's room for every type of game imaginable. Yet many would probably also agree a certain segment reads far too much into the violence involved in such games. That segment usually doesn't include gamers themselves though. Very few games focus on killing for the sake of killing, unless it happens to be a satire or novelty like GTA... but that's an extreme example.

    again.

    Most of us do not go around packing heat everyday and yet in games called 'first person shooters' which there are a fuck ton of, you kinda need a gun to play.

    Are you saying that there is not much opportunity for non-violent games because people dream about it at night and/or because we have farms? or are you just trying to argue for arguement sake?

    Can't take such a question seriously when I receive this (orange) as a reply. I'm the one arguing for arguments sake?

    farming is where we kill the most.

    people do not dream at night wishing they could kill. so why would there not be opportunity for games that do no contain killing unless you want to make a dinner simulator.

     

    understand?

    I don't understand what it has to do with my post, I said what I meant to say pretty clearly.

    again...

    there are a ton of games where you do many different things and MOST of those games one of the most important things that you do is shoot.

    do you disagree with that statement?

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  • DamonVileDamonVile Member UncommonPosts: 4,818
    Originally posted by SEANMCAD
    Originally posted by DamonVile
     

    What's really crazy is the direct relationship you attribute to killing in a game vrs killing in real life. Ripping a peace of paper is violent and has about as much meaning as shooting a pixel in a game to a normal person.

    well I do not believe most people sleep at night dreaming of being able to shot people and then wake up happy that they found a game that allows them to.

    So.

    1. these games do not represent what we do in life

    2. these games do not represent what we want to do in life.

    so I guess what you are telling me is that there is a HUGE opportunirty here for developers, which is basically what I am saying. thus you agree with me

    I'll agree there is a market for non violent games. I wont agree that there are too many or that there is a problem with having them. SOME may go too far with it but some go too far with sex and just about every other emotion we have.

  • TheQuietGamerTheQuietGamer Member Posts: 317

    My thoughts: -

     

    Every generation gets obsessed with the next generation lacking the morals they did.  

    Now to be clear, morals have sweet fuck all to do with religion.  We are a social animal and evolution has required reciprocal behaviour.  Anyone who thinks morality is based in religion is frankly a fruit loop.    

    But that said, the idea that people cannot separate real life from a bit of escapism is absurd.  You know what, those nutters who behave like nutters, they do it because they are nutters, not because they have played games, watched a soap or listened to a record backwards.  They are nutters, that is the be all and end all.

     

     

  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    Originally posted by DamonVile
    Originally posted by SEANMCAD
    Originally posted by DamonVile
     

    What's really crazy is the direct relationship you attribute to killing in a game vrs killing in real life. Ripping a peace of paper is violent and has about as much meaning as shooting a pixel in a game to a normal person.

    well I do not believe most people sleep at night dreaming of being able to shot people and then wake up happy that they found a game that allows them to.

    So.

    1. these games do not represent what we do in life

    2. these games do not represent what we want to do in life.

    so I guess what you are telling me is that there is a HUGE opportunirty here for developers, which is basically what I am saying. thus you agree with me

    I'll agree there is a market for non violent games. I wont agree that there are too many or that there is a problem with having them. SOME may go too far with it but some go too far with sex and just about every other emotion we have.

    I want to be very clear here.

    I don give a flying flat fuck how violent they are. At my very core human existance I do not have a problem with violence. I do not want that bullshit to get confused with what I am saying here.

    I am saying that although violence is part of life the amount of games that have it is far out of scale.

    I hope to fuck that clears things up. This is not a debate over bullshit moralism

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  • rodingorodingo Member RarePosts: 2,870
    Originally posted by DMKano

    If any alien species would come to visit us - their first logical decision would be to exterminate humans - who would want to negotiate with a genoicidal species?

     

    Well, as Perry Farrell says, "we'll make great pets". 

    "If I offended you, you needed it" -Corey Taylor

  • StzzaStzza Member UncommonPosts: 31
    Find it funny and kinda sad that the most fun I have had in gaming in the last 3 years are from games resembling ones I played when I was growing up.   The big titles with the high end engines just havn't done it for me lately.  

    Playing : DayZ

    Played : EVE, GW, SB, DF, AoC, WoW, WaR, L1, L2, Rift, AA, WS

    Loved: DAoC, EVE, SB, old WoW, L2, GW2, EQ1-2

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