As a new player

Athisar

I've never played EVE before, but I've heard a lot of good things about it, and about CCP.

The question really is, since it's been around so long and is a sandbox game, is it worth starting out as a brand new player?

Kyleran

Absolutely, new players start every day.in EVE, the game is eternal, and there's plenty of time to join the fun.

 

Athisar

That's good to hear.

One thing that really impressed me was I signed up for the trial, created a character, but didn't get around to playing. The trial ran out, so I sent a ticket on the off chance they'd extend it - and I got a reply within 30 minutes saying they'd added on two weeks and hoped I'd enjoy the game. Stuff like this makes me happy to pay for a game if it's fun.

 

Kyleran

You can create another free trial if this one runs out, and there are 3 week trial offers as well. You can't run two trial accounts at one time however.

Elevenb4

Yeah play it. I haven't played for some time, been probably two years, but I played for about 3 years total and had a great time. Hard times for sure, but good times as well. That was the last MMO I've played where there was a real sense of accomplishment. I still remember my first Battleship, an Apocalypse. Looking back, that isn't much, but it sure was neat to finally get one. 

 

Good times for sure.

fivoroth

I have played EVE on probably 5-6 separate occassions and I really liked the game. There is so much stuff to do that it's just overwhelming. My advice is to really pay attention to the tutorial and the initial missions. Don't just skip over them as they give you a lot of important information about the game. A lot of the things there you might not be able to easily figure out on your own. 

Another thing is join a corporation like EVE university. I am not sure if EVE university are still around but if they are, definitely join them. They are an amazing corporation for newbies and will help you learn a lot about the game.

 

geren315

a word of advice if i may

join a  newbie corporation (EVE UNIVERSITY would be the best i think)   that will explain all the rules of the game (great iv just noticed that you have already mentioned that that for reminding me to read following post <a data-cke-saved-href="http://www.mmorpg.com/profile.cfm/username/fivoroth"; href="http://www.mmorpg.com/profile.cfm/username/fivoroth"; title="View information about fivoroth" suhlink"="">fivoroth)

there are many unwriten rules that are realy harsh on the new player

like

"NEVER FLY ON AUTOPILOT"

"BIGGER SHIP MEANS BIGGER TARGET" (so the bigger you are the easyer it is to for others to hit you and harder for you to hit them))

and so on

if you breake any of those rules it usualy will cost you your ship

and the most important

NEVER FLY A SHIP THAT YOU CANN'T AFFORD and easily replace

good luck and have fun

and may i wish great profitsssss onto you!

also if for some reason you're not having fun it just means you're doing the wrong thing

there just so many things in eve that im shure there is something for you (don't listen to others, if tis mining go mining)

SoaringBarnacle

Don't bother playing it if you don't play with RL friends whom you trust, or if you don't have at least a second monitor, so you can play with simultaneous accounts. This means you will have to fund them, of course. You cannot do stuff alone in this game, and you cannot trust anyone that cannot be held accountable IRL.

Bladestrom

The best answer is that you will love Eve if you love pvp. If you love PVE the game has no real long term goals as too shiny a ship makes you a target for predators. Love pvp you will love eve otherwise wait a bit for Elite.

Alumicard

I dont want to start a new post for this because this one fits pretty well.

As a maybe new player (EVE is one of the few games I never played) how do you best start as a player interested in mining/crafting and maybe a bit pve(pvp comes later after I made some isk to afford ships that get destroyed)? I tried to get some info but what I found was mostly some hint in the directon of "run a bot". Is that allowed, tolerated or a bannable offence? And also from hearsay you get killed even in secure 1.0 sectors because of some rules, is that true?

Kyleran

Originally posted by Alumicard

I dont want to start a new post for this because this one fits pretty well.

As a maybe new player (EVE is one of the few games I never played) how do you best start as a player interested in mining/crafting and maybe a bit pve(pvp comes later after I made some isk to afford ships that get destroyed)? I tried to get some info but what I found was mostly some hint in the directon of "run a bot". Is that allowed, tolerated or a bannable offence? And also from hearsay you get killed even in secure 1.0 sectors because of some rules, is that true?

First, do all of the tutorials, and read all of the materials it links you to.  Yes, it will take some time, but you will find it well spent and you will come away with a plethora of ships including your first Ore Miner, a few frigates well suited to Lvl 1 missions.

You should also tackle your next challenge, the Sisters of EVE mission arc, which should bring you right up to your first cruiser and perhaps LVL 2 missions if you chose to move forward in that path.

From here on you make a choice, to follow the path of a miner, mission runner, explorer, trader, or pvper and go from there. (there are many more paths, I did not list them all here)

As recommended above, look for a corp that helps train new players (there is a recruiting channel in the forums and in game) so they can help further your EVE education. 

To your questions and comments. 

1) Never fly what you cannot afford to lose.  You will likely ignore this advice, but recall it when you're looking at the remains of your wrecked hull and be more careful the next time.

2) Do not bot.  Yes people do it, and yes, CCP catches and bans many of them.  Besides, it's cheating, don't be that guy.

3)  It's not hearsay, you can get killed in "high sec", which includes regions with a Sec status of .5 to 1.0.  It's called suicide ganking and if you present yourself as an attractive enough target, you risk being killed.

Couple of precautions include never using the autopilot unless you are in something you really don't care about losing, especially near the big market hubs such as Jita or Amarr Throne World.

Watch out for the mining gankers of CODE, if you mine in high sec ice belts or popular systems they will find you and if you aren't flying a properly tanked mining ship such as a Procurer, they'll probably kill you. (and even then sometimes)

All sorts of ways to get killed in EVE, but if you fly smart you may never lose a ship....naw, everyone loses ships somehow, someway, plan for it and learn it isn't the end of the world. (well, unless you are flying an unescorted freighter with billions of ISK worth of valuable cargo, then it might be)

Welcome to EVE and I hope you find it to be to your likely, it really is a unique game. (for good and bad)

 

 

Muke

Originally posted by Athisar

I've never played EVE before, but I've heard a lot of good things about it, and about CCP.

The question really is, since it's been around so long and is a sandbox game, is it worth starting out as a brand new player?

Just keep in mind:

 

-don't fly what you can't afford to lose;

-you are NEVER 100% safe;

-if a deal sounds to good to be true, it very probably is;

-scamming+stealing is allowed as long as you do not exploit, so be careful who you trust with your expensive goods.

Malcanis

Originally posted by Athisar

I've never played EVE before, but I've heard a lot of good things about it, and about CCP.

The question really is, since it's been around so long and is a sandbox game, is it worth starting out as a brand new player?

I many ways it's the best time to start that there has ever been. Compared to, say, 5 years ago the tutorials are incomparably better, the low-cost, easy access ships (T1 frigates and Cruisers) are massively more effective, and CCP have done a giant amount of work improving the UI and general polish of the game.

Two pieces of advice I will give you

(1) Ignore the moaning naysayers who will try and convince you that you "can't" go to 0.0/lo-sec/W-space until you have 50 million SP and 3 carriers and 30 billion ISK. Identify what you want to do and speak to people who are happy to talk about how you can achieve your goals.

(2) Find a group of people to play with. EVE is pretty cold and lonely when you're truly solo. It might take a few tries to find a group that's right for you.

 

There's a whole bunch more that could be said but if you tune out the negative nancies and find your space-brosefs then tbh all the rest will fall into place pretty naturally.

Mavolence

Originally posted by SoaringBarnacle

Don't bother playing it if you don't play with RL friends whom you trust, or if you don't have at least a second monitor, so you can play with simultaneous accounts. This means you will have to fund them, of course. You cannot do stuff alone in this game, and you cannot trust anyone that cannot be held accountable IRL.

Ridiculous, I never met anyone in the corp i'm in and have been in the same corp for 8 years and no problems whatsoever with any of them. Be a good judge of character and ease into it

SoaringBarnacle

You've been playing for 8 years. Back then, the playerbase had still some sort of common sense and didn't like online psychopathy so much. It was way easier to find a corp filled with respectful individuals.

Mavolence

Originally posted by SoaringBarnacle
You've been playing for 8 years. Back then, the playerbase had still some sort of common sense and didn't like online psychopathy so much. It was way easier to find a corp filled with respectful individuals.

Been playing longer than 8 but I was with a single corp for 8 years. And i have left that corp found another 3 corps that are just as respectful. I think it comes down to asking the right questions and not taking shit from anybody.

Calfis

Originally posted by SoaringBarnacle

Don't bother playing it if you don't play with RL friends whom you trust, or if you don't have at least a second monitor, so you can play with simultaneous accounts. This means you will have to fund them, of course. You cannot do stuff alone in this game, and you cannot trust anyone that cannot be held accountable IRL.

I've joined two corps since returning to EVE at the beginning of the year, both corps full of people I didn't know, have yet to have been ass reamed yet. Not every corp is goons bro.