Originally posted by filmoret I got it off ebay for 12$. Just use a little common sense and grab one.
Not seeing any at that price anywhere.
Nor should you expect to. The only (genuine) discounted copies will be ones from last years launch that didn't / haven't sold. And as time passes there will be fewer and fewer of these.
New PC copies - however many Zenimax produce given that the game is available digitally and it has already launched on PC - will be "full price" so as not to undercut console sales with the usual discounts that some retailers offer through cutting their margins etc.
So you might "get lucky" but don't expect to.
The game has not gone "free to buy" it simply has the same model now as e.g. Skyrim. And as / when / if there are expansions there will be a charge (one way or another) just like there was for e.g. Skyrim.
DAMMIT! i bought this game at launch for $80 and played it for a few months until i got bored (had more fun installing cool UI addons and tweaking the fonts and shit than i did playing this repetitive poo) - now i'm curious how the game looks but i uninstalled awhile back and it wont let me login to redownload it
Even though I'm having a damned good time, I would suggest the same. I think it was around $10-$15 during a steam holiday sale at one point. While I'm not sure it would go quite that low again....SUMMER SALES.
Yeah, I'll be waiting for a sale, I'm hoping there will at least be a $25 sale at some point. ^_^
From deciding to skip purchasing at launch due to my beta experience, all I can say is that I'm thankful I waited. With the game going on a super sale over Christmas, I decided to purchase the Imperial Edition than since it went from $80 to $30. As for the current state of the game. Even from the first moment I started playing in DEC 2014 until now, the game once known as the buggy and laggy ESO at launch has made a complete 180 in terms of pretty much everything.
Definitely the #1 game on the market as of right now and with the added content from 1.6 it's only gotten better. Tamriel Unlimited and the cash shop are nice, but I'm staying a subscriber regardless because ESO is more than worth it. If WoW can manage to maintain a subscription model with it's current state, than theres no reason ESO shouldn't.
I'm willing to bet 90% of the people complaining about ESO as a pile of crap purchased the game at launch or got banned.
Just like the last time it reset, the game wants me to provide an access code to prove my New (actually the same) Computer is really me. The automated process says its sent me an access code.....but it hasn't. Just like last time. Kinda stooped to have to go through support calls to get their basic functionality to work. Again.
If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.
Originally posted by Arglebargle Just like the last time it reset, the game wants me to provide an access code to prove my New (actually the same) Computer is really me. The automated process says its sent me an access code.....but it hasn't. Just like last time. Kinda stooped to have to go through support calls to get their basic functionality to work. Again.
Post this on the general forums. Someone will most likely respond pretty quick.
yep, might try it when I'm bored when it is < $20 to buy in - a game that failed to be worth a sub is not suddenly worth the price of a full game just because they dropped the sub. I dodged a bullet not buying at launch (dodged that SWTOR bullet too - I guess I have a good record as a beta tester seeing that the game has some major issues...) certainly not going to give them that much money now!
If you liked Skyrim, Morrowind or any other TES game then it is definitely worth every penny now. Been playing for 2 weeks. I am level 27 and in the 4th zone and it feels so much better then it ever did during beta. Definitely has a lot of production quality now.
Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!
Subscription Gaming, especially MMO gaming is a Cash grab bigger then the most P2W cash shop!
Bring Back Exploration and lengthy progression times. RPG's have always been about the Journey not the destination!!!
Originally posted by Malabooga Its good game to play for the story, much like SWTOR. But beyond that...
Not into PvP or Structured raid content myself but as a Replacement for single player games with the occasional Dungeon with a group then the game is pretty damn good and considering I am level 27 after 2 weeks, on the 4th zone within my home faction with 2 other factions zones and Coldharbor to go through then I can see this lasting, for me, for many many months. Ontp of this the new Alternate Advancement progression system keeps things enlightened.
Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!
Subscription Gaming, especially MMO gaming is a Cash grab bigger then the most P2W cash shop!
Bring Back Exploration and lengthy progression times. RPG's have always been about the Journey not the destination!!!
From deciding to skip purchasing at launch due to my beta experience, all I can say is that I'm thankful I waited. With the game going on a super sale over Christmas, I decided to purchase the Imperial Edition than since it went from $80 to $30. As for the current state of the game. Even from the first moment I started playing in DEC 2014 until now, the game once known as the buggy and laggy ESO at launch has made a complete 180 in terms of pretty much everything.
Definitely the #1 game on the market as of right now and with the added content from 1.6 it's only gotten better. Tamriel Unlimited and the cash shop are nice, but I'm staying a subscriber regardless because ESO is more than worth it. If WoW can manage to maintain a subscription model with it's current state, than theres no reason ESO shouldn't.
I'm willing to bet 90% of the people complaining about ESO as a pile of crap purchased the game at launch or got banned.
Or they play the better balanced Gw2.
Oh, I've played GW2 for quite some time and it definitely has it's own pro's and con's but I don't see where you think balance is even a standard to compare when GW2 doesn't even use the trinity system. Regardless, Cyrodiil trumps WvW which is where I spent most my time in both games.
Have you ever tried structured pvp? That. Lvl 2 is perfectly capable of shaming lvl 80 with 10k+ AP and tons of legendaries.
WvW is a bit like that as well. I mean sure, numbers win and whatnot yada yada yada BUT! everybody has equal ceiling. You can't go better than ascended, And that ceiling is easy to reach. And there will be no gear treadmill. So whatever you've achieved stays.
Can you guarantee the same in TESO if I have the best gear today, but decide to stop and continue 1 year from now? I don't think so.
This is what I mean by balance. And yeah Gw2 doesn't limit itself to a trinity. But the lack of hard defined roles doesn't mean there are no roles. But that's not Gw2 thread now is it
I was thinking of updating TESO now that they don't need my money for access, but that 25gb download totally made me close that launcher. The size of this game is crazy. Do they even compress their assets. Even Microsoft shaved 45% OS requirements by compressing system files for Windows 10.
From deciding to skip purchasing at launch due to my beta experience, all I can say is that I'm thankful I waited. With the game going on a super sale over Christmas, I decided to purchase the Imperial Edition than since it went from $80 to $30. As for the current state of the game. Even from the first moment I started playing in DEC 2014 until now, the game once known as the buggy and laggy ESO at launch has made a complete 180 in terms of pretty much everything.
Definitely the #1 game on the market as of right now and with the added content from 1.6 it's only gotten better. Tamriel Unlimited and the cash shop are nice, but I'm staying a subscriber regardless because ESO is more than worth it. If WoW can manage to maintain a subscription model with it's current state, than theres no reason ESO shouldn't.
I'm willing to bet 90% of the people complaining about ESO as a pile of crap purchased the game at launch or got banned.
Or they play the better balanced Gw2.
Oh, I've played GW2 for quite some time and it definitely has it's own pro's and con's but I don't see where you think balance is even a standard to compare when GW2 doesn't even use the trinity system. Regardless, Cyrodiil trumps WvW which is where I spent most my time in both games.
Have you ever tried structured pvp? That. Lvl 2 is perfectly capable of shaming lvl 80 with 10k+ AP and tons of legendaries.
WvW is a bit like that as well. I mean sure, numbers win and whatnot yada yada yada BUT! everybody has equal ceiling. You can't go better than ascended, And that ceiling is easy to reach. And there will be no gear treadmill. So whatever you've achieved stays.
Can you guarantee the same in TESO if I have the best gear today, but decide to stop and continue 1 year from now? I don't think so.
This is what I mean by balance. And yeah Gw2 doesn't limit itself to a trinity. But the lack of hard defined roles doesn't mean there are no roles. But that's not Gw2 thread now is it
I was thinking of updating TESO now that they don't need my money for access, but that 25gb download totally made me close that launcher. The size of this game is crazy. Do they even compress their assets. Even Microsoft shaved 45% OS requirements by compressing system files for Windows 10.
Well if a person who had legendary stopped playing around April/May of last year, guess what? Today they would still have the best gear in game. On top of that it takes no grinding to get. Simply level your crafting while leveling then buy the mats when you hit the appropriate level.
Is it possible this will change? Sure GW2 added ascended gear didn't they? The very reason ESO added the champion system was to tackle the progression w/o gear creep issue though.
Well if a person who had legendary stopped playing around April/May of last year, guess what? Today they would still have the best gear in game. On top of that it takes no grinding to get. Simply level your crafting while leveling then buy the mats when you hit the appropriate level.
Is it possible this will change? Sure GW2 added ascended gear didn't they? The very reason ESO added the champion system was to tackle the progression w/o gear creep issue though.
And they are releasing an expack soon, still no new gear. But its pointless to argue in this thread.
Celebrate your Tamriel Unlimited relaunch, if you want to argue about that, make a separate thread
Just wanted to correct the guy above saying that TESO is the best MMO on the market. It certainly isn't to me. Its not a bad game, especially now that they don't ripoff on a sub. But the best is a bit ambiguous
From deciding to skip purchasing at launch due to my beta experience, all I can say is that I'm thankful I waited. With the game going on a super sale over Christmas, I decided to purchase the Imperial Edition than since it went from $80 to $30. As for the current state of the game. Even from the first moment I started playing in DEC 2014 until now, the game once known as the buggy and laggy ESO at launch has made a complete 180 in terms of pretty much everything.
Definitely the #1 game on the market as of right now and with the added content from 1.6 it's only gotten better. Tamriel Unlimited and the cash shop are nice, but I'm staying a subscriber regardless because ESO is more than worth it. If WoW can manage to maintain a subscription model with it's current state, than theres no reason ESO shouldn't.
I'm willing to bet 90% of the people complaining about ESO as a pile of crap purchased the game at launch or got banned.
Or they play the better balanced Gw2.
Oh, I've played GW2 for quite some time and it definitely has it's own pro's and con's but I don't see where you think balance is even a standard to compare when GW2 doesn't even use the trinity system. Regardless, Cyrodiil trumps WvW which is where I spent most my time in both games.
Have you ever tried structured pvp? That. Lvl 2 is perfectly capable of shaming lvl 80 with 10k+ AP and tons of legendaries.
WvW is a bit like that as well. I mean sure, numbers win and whatnot yada yada yada BUT! everybody has equal ceiling. You can't go better than ascended, And that ceiling is easy to reach. And there will be no gear treadmill. So whatever you've achieved stays.
Can you guarantee the same in TESO if I have the best gear today, but decide to stop and continue 1 year from now? I don't think so.
This is what I mean by balance. And yeah Gw2 doesn't limit itself to a trinity. But the lack of hard defined roles doesn't mean there are no roles. But that's not Gw2 thread now is it
I was thinking of updating TESO now that they don't need my money for access, but that 25gb download totally made me close that launcher. The size of this game is crazy. Do they even compress their assets. Even Microsoft shaved 45% OS requirements by compressing system files for Windows 10.
Well if a person who had legendary stopped playing around April/May of last year, guess what? Today they would still have the best gear in game. On top of that it takes no grinding to get. Simply level your crafting while leveling then buy the mats when you hit the appropriate level.
Is it possible this will change? Sure GW2 added ascended gear didn't they? The very reason ESO added the champion system was to tackle the progression w/o gear creep issue though.
#1 reason why I quit GW2 and don;t ever plan on returning is due to no gear progression. I consider it one of the most important aspects for progression in an RPG or MMO and to remove it is to remove, IMO, the soul of a genre that prides itself on progression.
I don;t often agree with BC but in his post he is absolutely 100% correct. It is sad too because other then this ONE MAJOR FLAW, I think GW2 could be an amazing game.
Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!
Subscription Gaming, especially MMO gaming is a Cash grab bigger then the most P2W cash shop!
Bring Back Exploration and lengthy progression times. RPG's have always been about the Journey not the destination!!!
Originally posted by Malabooga Its good game to play for the story, much like SWTOR. But beyond that...
Not into PvP or Structured raid content myself but as a Replacement for single player games with the occasional Dungeon with a group then the game is pretty damn good and considering I am level 27 after 2 weeks, on the 4th zone within my home faction with 2 other factions zones and Coldharbor to go through then I can see this lasting, for me, for many many months. Ontp of this the new Alternate Advancement progression system keeps things enlightened.
Its not AA, its THE advancement, and i guess it will be fine in 2-3 years when thers content to support it, atm and for forseeable future theres 1 zone, with mostly forced grouping and mindless farming to see some measurbale progress. Oh, and yes, its even more unbalancing for AvA that VRs and gear.
From deciding to skip purchasing at launch due to my beta experience, all I can say is that I'm thankful I waited. With the game going on a super sale over Christmas, I decided to purchase the Imperial Edition than since it went from $80 to $30. As for the current state of the game. Even from the first moment I started playing in DEC 2014 until now, the game once known as the buggy and laggy ESO at launch has made a complete 180 in terms of pretty much everything.
Definitely the #1 game on the market as of right now and with the added content from 1.6 it's only gotten better. Tamriel Unlimited and the cash shop are nice, but I'm staying a subscriber regardless because ESO is more than worth it. If WoW can manage to maintain a subscription model with it's current state, than theres no reason ESO shouldn't.
I'm willing to bet 90% of the people complaining about ESO as a pile of crap purchased the game at launch or got banned.
Or they play the better balanced Gw2.
Oh, I've played GW2 for quite some time and it definitely has it's own pro's and con's but I don't see where you think balance is even a standard to compare when GW2 doesn't even use the trinity system. Regardless, Cyrodiil trumps WvW which is where I spent most my time in both games.
Have you ever tried structured pvp? That. Lvl 2 is perfectly capable of shaming lvl 80 with 10k+ AP and tons of legendaries.
WvW is a bit like that as well. I mean sure, numbers win and whatnot yada yada yada BUT! everybody has equal ceiling. You can't go better than ascended, And that ceiling is easy to reach. And there will be no gear treadmill. So whatever you've achieved stays.
Can you guarantee the same in TESO if I have the best gear today, but decide to stop and continue 1 year from now? I don't think so.
This is what I mean by balance. And yeah Gw2 doesn't limit itself to a trinity. But the lack of hard defined roles doesn't mean there are no roles. But that's not Gw2 thread now is it
I was thinking of updating TESO now that they don't need my money for access, but that 25gb download totally made me close that launcher. The size of this game is crazy. Do they even compress their assets. Even Microsoft shaved 45% OS requirements by compressing system files for Windows 10.
Well if a person who had legendary stopped playing around April/May of last year, guess what? Today they would still have the best gear in game. On top of that it takes no grinding to get. Simply level your crafting while leveling then buy the mats when you hit the appropriate level.
Is it possible this will change? Sure GW2 added ascended gear didn't they? The very reason ESO added the champion system was to tackle the progression w/o gear creep issue though.
#1 reason why I quit GW2 and don;t ever plan on returning is due to no gear progression. I consider it one of the most important aspects for progression in an RPG or MMO and to remove it is to remove, IMO, the soul of a genre that prides itself on progression.
I don;t often agree with BC but in his post he is absolutely 100% correct. It is sad too because other then this ONE MAJOR FLAW, I think GW2 could be an amazing game.
Gear and gear progressing are cancer of MMOs and have very little to none to do with RPG.
Its best thing about GW2 and worst thing about ESO (along VRs and CPs)
Well if a person who had legendary stopped playing around April/May of last year, guess what? Today they would still have the best gear in game. On top of that it takes no grinding to get. Simply level your crafting while leveling then buy the mats when you hit the appropriate level.
Is it possible this will change? Sure GW2 added ascended gear didn't they? The very reason ESO added the champion system was to tackle the progression w/o gear creep issue though.
And they are releasing an expack soon, still no new gear. But its pointless to argue in this thread.
Celebrate your Tamriel Unlimited relaunch, if you want to argue about that, make a separate thread
Just wanted to correct the guy above saying that TESO is the best MMO on the market. It certainly isn't to me. Its not a bad game, especially now that they don't ripoff on a sub. But the best is a bit ambiguous
As I stated, GW2 has it's pro's and con's, but I'm afraid their initial claim of dynamic content was merely a distraction at launch since it clearly has static quest environment. That was one of it's major selling points which to me was a slap in the face once I realized it was no different than any other MMO out there. I do like GW2 combat and animations, but as of right now, ESO is just as good.
My claim that ESO is the #1 game on the market was a bit of a boast but it was definitely ranked #1 recently here in an official poll. Not that it matters really, because there will always be a bigger, better game. I just find most game's replayability to be lacking, including both GW2 and ESO. However, all pro's and con's aside, if I had to choose GW2 or ESO, I'd choose ESO even with a subscription, which is probably why I'm staying a subscriber and why I'm not playing GW2 for free.
We all have our own tastes in what makes an MMO great, so nothing wrong with agreeing to disagree.
Oh, its this again. Events are NOT static. Its exactly what they advertised. ANd its COMPLETELY different than any other MMO. ESO has absolutely nothing similar for instance.
ESOs combat is worse than GW2, clunky and unresponsive most of the time. It still beats "traditional" though.
From deciding to skip purchasing at launch due to my beta experience, all I can say is that I'm thankful I waited. With the game going on a super sale over Christmas, I decided to purchase the Imperial Edition than since it went from $80 to $30. As for the current state of the game. Even from the first moment I started playing in DEC 2014 until now, the game once known as the buggy and laggy ESO at launch has made a complete 180 in terms of pretty much everything.
Definitely the #1 game on the market as of right now and with the added content from 1.6 it's only gotten better. Tamriel Unlimited and the cash shop are nice, but I'm staying a subscriber regardless because ESO is more than worth it. If WoW can manage to maintain a subscription model with it's current state, than theres no reason ESO shouldn't.
I'm willing to bet 90% of the people complaining about ESO as a pile of crap purchased the game at launch or got banned.
Or they play the better balanced Gw2.
Oh, I've played GW2 for quite some time and it definitely has it's own pro's and con's but I don't see where you think balance is even a standard to compare when GW2 doesn't even use the trinity system. Regardless, Cyrodiil trumps WvW which is where I spent most my time in both games.
Have you ever tried structured pvp? That. Lvl 2 is perfectly capable of shaming lvl 80 with 10k+ AP and tons of legendaries.
WvW is a bit like that as well. I mean sure, numbers win and whatnot yada yada yada BUT! everybody has equal ceiling. You can't go better than ascended, And that ceiling is easy to reach. And there will be no gear treadmill. So whatever you've achieved stays.
Can you guarantee the same in TESO if I have the best gear today, but decide to stop and continue 1 year from now? I don't think so.
This is what I mean by balance. And yeah Gw2 doesn't limit itself to a trinity. But the lack of hard defined roles doesn't mean there are no roles. But that's not Gw2 thread now is it
I was thinking of updating TESO now that they don't need my money for access, but that 25gb download totally made me close that launcher. The size of this game is crazy. Do they even compress their assets. Even Microsoft shaved 45% OS requirements by compressing system files for Windows 10.
Well if a person who had legendary stopped playing around April/May of last year, guess what? Today they would still have the best gear in game. On top of that it takes no grinding to get. Simply level your crafting while leveling then buy the mats when you hit the appropriate level.
Is it possible this will change? Sure GW2 added ascended gear didn't they? The very reason ESO added the champion system was to tackle the progression w/o gear creep issue though.
CPs are just enormous grind with no content to support it. Few points in CP and you already have bigger advantage over someone than whole ascended/legendary set over exotic in GW2.
Thats the biggest problem in ESO, vertical progression, as they didnt get the memo from VRs/gear till now (they did nerf top gear from raids)
From deciding to skip purchasing at launch due to my beta experience, all I can say is that I'm thankful I waited. With the game going on a super sale over Christmas, I decided to purchase the Imperial Edition than since it went from $80 to $30. As for the current state of the game. Even from the first moment I started playing in DEC 2014 until now, the game once known as the buggy and laggy ESO at launch has made a complete 180 in terms of pretty much everything.
Definitely the #1 game on the market as of right now and with the added content from 1.6 it's only gotten better. Tamriel Unlimited and the cash shop are nice, but I'm staying a subscriber regardless because ESO is more than worth it. If WoW can manage to maintain a subscription model with it's current state, than theres no reason ESO shouldn't.
I'm willing to bet 90% of the people complaining about ESO as a pile of crap purchased the game at launch or got banned.
Or they play the better balanced Gw2.
Oh, I've played GW2 for quite some time and it definitely has it's own pro's and con's but I don't see where you think balance is even a standard to compare when GW2 doesn't even use the trinity system. Regardless, Cyrodiil trumps WvW which is where I spent most my time in both games.
Have you ever tried structured pvp? That. Lvl 2 is perfectly capable of shaming lvl 80 with 10k+ AP and tons of legendaries.
WvW is a bit like that as well. I mean sure, numbers win and whatnot yada yada yada BUT! everybody has equal ceiling. You can't go better than ascended, And that ceiling is easy to reach. And there will be no gear treadmill. So whatever you've achieved stays.
Can you guarantee the same in TESO if I have the best gear today, but decide to stop and continue 1 year from now? I don't think so.
This is what I mean by balance. And yeah Gw2 doesn't limit itself to a trinity. But the lack of hard defined roles doesn't mean there are no roles. But that's not Gw2 thread now is it
I was thinking of updating TESO now that they don't need my money for access, but that 25gb download totally made me close that launcher. The size of this game is crazy. Do they even compress their assets. Even Microsoft shaved 45% OS requirements by compressing system files for Windows 10.
Well if a person who had legendary stopped playing around April/May of last year, guess what? Today they would still have the best gear in game. On top of that it takes no grinding to get. Simply level your crafting while leveling then buy the mats when you hit the appropriate level.
Is it possible this will change? Sure GW2 added ascended gear didn't they? The very reason ESO added the champion system was to tackle the progression w/o gear creep issue though.
CPs are just enormous grind with no content to support it. Few points in CP and you already have bigger advantage over someone than whole ascended/legendary set over exotic in GW2.
Thats the biggest problem in ESO, vertical progression, as they didnt get the memo from VRs/gear till now (they did nerf top gear from raids)
CP's are earned when you hit VR1. You still have 2/3 of the game to experience when you get there plus all adventure zones and Cyrodiil. I would say that's enough content to supporit it. Almost 3 times the content of the 1-50?!?! You sir have no idea of what you are speaking about.
From deciding to skip purchasing at launch due to my beta experience, all I can say is that I'm thankful I waited. With the game going on a super sale over Christmas, I decided to purchase the Imperial Edition than since it went from $80 to $30. As for the current state of the game. Even from the first moment I started playing in DEC 2014 until now, the game once known as the buggy and laggy ESO at launch has made a complete 180 in terms of pretty much everything.
Definitely the #1 game on the market as of right now and with the added content from 1.6 it's only gotten better. Tamriel Unlimited and the cash shop are nice, but I'm staying a subscriber regardless because ESO is more than worth it. If WoW can manage to maintain a subscription model with it's current state, than theres no reason ESO shouldn't.
I'm willing to bet 90% of the people complaining about ESO as a pile of crap purchased the game at launch or got banned.
Or they play the better balanced Gw2.
Oh, I've played GW2 for quite some time and it definitely has it's own pro's and con's but I don't see where you think balance is even a standard to compare when GW2 doesn't even use the trinity system. Regardless, Cyrodiil trumps WvW which is where I spent most my time in both games.
Have you ever tried structured pvp? That. Lvl 2 is perfectly capable of shaming lvl 80 with 10k+ AP and tons of legendaries.
WvW is a bit like that as well. I mean sure, numbers win and whatnot yada yada yada BUT! everybody has equal ceiling. You can't go better than ascended, And that ceiling is easy to reach. And there will be no gear treadmill. So whatever you've achieved stays.
Can you guarantee the same in TESO if I have the best gear today, but decide to stop and continue 1 year from now? I don't think so.
This is what I mean by balance. And yeah Gw2 doesn't limit itself to a trinity. But the lack of hard defined roles doesn't mean there are no roles. But that's not Gw2 thread now is it
I was thinking of updating TESO now that they don't need my money for access, but that 25gb download totally made me close that launcher. The size of this game is crazy. Do they even compress their assets. Even Microsoft shaved 45% OS requirements by compressing system files for Windows 10.
Well if a person who had legendary stopped playing around April/May of last year, guess what? Today they would still have the best gear in game. On top of that it takes no grinding to get. Simply level your crafting while leveling then buy the mats when you hit the appropriate level.
Is it possible this will change? Sure GW2 added ascended gear didn't they? The very reason ESO added the champion system was to tackle the progression w/o gear creep issue though.
CPs are just enormous grind with no content to support it. Few points in CP and you already have bigger advantage over someone than whole ascended/legendary set over exotic in GW2.
Thats the biggest problem in ESO, vertical progression, as they didnt get the memo from VRs/gear till now (they did nerf top gear from raids)
CP's are earned when you hit VR1. You still have 2/3 of the game to experience when you get there plus all adventure zones and Cyrodiil. I would say that's enough content to supporit it. Almost 3 times the content of the 1-50?!?! You sir have no idea of what you are speaking about.
Ohhh, shoot, finish all those "adventure zones" (theres 1 lol) and report back how far have you come with CPs and what do you have left to play.
You kinda got it backwards, its you who dont understand how stuff works.
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My bad the prices have jumped and they are selling out fast. Looks like you can get for approx 30$ now. Definitely too late.
Nor should you expect to. The only (genuine) discounted copies will be ones from last years launch that didn't / haven't sold. And as time passes there will be fewer and fewer of these.
New PC copies - however many Zenimax produce given that the game is available digitally and it has already launched on PC - will be "full price" so as not to undercut console sales with the usual discounts that some retailers offer through cutting their margins etc.
So you might "get lucky" but don't expect to.
The game has not gone "free to buy" it simply has the same model now as e.g. Skyrim. And as / when / if there are expansions there will be a charge (one way or another) just like there was for e.g. Skyrim.
Ya I picked it up last a couple of weeks ago for less than 20... foresight pays off.
And yes it is live for everyone as of now.
Yeah, I'll be waiting for a sale, I'm hoping there will at least be a $25 sale at some point. ^_^
Top Floor - The File-Cabinet Robot
Or they play the better balanced Gw2.
If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.
Post this on the general forums. Someone will most likely respond pretty quick.
If you liked Skyrim, Morrowind or any other TES game then it is definitely worth every penny now. Been playing for 2 weeks. I am level 27 and in the 4th zone and it feels so much better then it ever did during beta. Definitely has a lot of production quality now.
Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!
Subscription Gaming, especially MMO gaming is a Cash grab bigger then the most P2W cash shop!
Bring Back Exploration and lengthy progression times. RPG's have always been about the Journey not the destination!!!
Not into PvP or Structured raid content myself but as a Replacement for single player games with the occasional Dungeon with a group then the game is pretty damn good and considering I am level 27 after 2 weeks, on the 4th zone within my home faction with 2 other factions zones and Coldharbor to go through then I can see this lasting, for me, for many many months. Ontp of this the new Alternate Advancement progression system keeps things enlightened.
Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!
Subscription Gaming, especially MMO gaming is a Cash grab bigger then the most P2W cash shop!
Bring Back Exploration and lengthy progression times. RPG's have always been about the Journey not the destination!!!
Have you ever tried structured pvp? That. Lvl 2 is perfectly capable of shaming lvl 80 with 10k+ AP and tons of legendaries.
WvW is a bit like that as well. I mean sure, numbers win and whatnot yada yada yada BUT! everybody has equal ceiling. You can't go better than ascended, And that ceiling is easy to reach. And there will be no gear treadmill. So whatever you've achieved stays.
Can you guarantee the same in TESO if I have the best gear today, but decide to stop and continue 1 year from now? I don't think so.
This is what I mean by balance. And yeah Gw2 doesn't limit itself to a trinity. But the lack of hard defined roles doesn't mean there are no roles. But that's not Gw2 thread now is it
I was thinking of updating TESO now that they don't need my money for access, but that 25gb download totally made me close that launcher. The size of this game is crazy. Do they even compress their assets. Even Microsoft shaved 45% OS requirements by compressing system files for Windows 10.
Well if a person who had legendary stopped playing around April/May of last year, guess what? Today they would still have the best gear in game. On top of that it takes no grinding to get. Simply level your crafting while leveling then buy the mats when you hit the appropriate level.
Is it possible this will change? Sure GW2 added ascended gear didn't they? The very reason ESO added the champion system was to tackle the progression w/o gear creep issue though.
And they are releasing an expack soon, still no new gear. But its pointless to argue in this thread.
Celebrate your Tamriel Unlimited relaunch, if you want to argue about that, make a separate thread
Just wanted to correct the guy above saying that TESO is the best MMO on the market. It certainly isn't to me. Its not a bad game, especially now that they don't ripoff on a sub. But the best is a bit ambiguous
#1 reason why I quit GW2 and don;t ever plan on returning is due to no gear progression. I consider it one of the most important aspects for progression in an RPG or MMO and to remove it is to remove, IMO, the soul of a genre that prides itself on progression.
I don;t often agree with BC but in his post he is absolutely 100% correct. It is sad too because other then this ONE MAJOR FLAW, I think GW2 could be an amazing game.
Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!
Subscription Gaming, especially MMO gaming is a Cash grab bigger then the most P2W cash shop!
Bring Back Exploration and lengthy progression times. RPG's have always been about the Journey not the destination!!!
No trial? no thanks
What do you need to know that isn't shown in the multitude of videos and reviews?
if it's the same shitty controls it had in beta?
Its not AA, its THE advancement, and i guess it will be fine in 2-3 years when thers content to support it, atm and for forseeable future theres 1 zone, with mostly forced grouping and mindless farming to see some measurbale progress. Oh, and yes, its even more unbalancing for AvA that VRs and gear.
Gear and gear progressing are cancer of MMOs and have very little to none to do with RPG.
Its best thing about GW2 and worst thing about ESO (along VRs and CPs)
Oh, its this again. Events are NOT static. Its exactly what they advertised. ANd its COMPLETELY different than any other MMO. ESO has absolutely nothing similar for instance.
ESOs combat is worse than GW2, clunky and unresponsive most of the time. It still beats "traditional" though.
CPs are just enormous grind with no content to support it. Few points in CP and you already have bigger advantage over someone than whole ascended/legendary set over exotic in GW2.
Thats the biggest problem in ESO, vertical progression, as they didnt get the memo from VRs/gear till now (they did nerf top gear from raids)
CP's are earned when you hit VR1. You still have 2/3 of the game to experience when you get there plus all adventure zones and Cyrodiil. I would say that's enough content to supporit it. Almost 3 times the content of the 1-50?!?! You sir have no idea of what you are speaking about.
Ohhh, shoot, finish all those "adventure zones" (theres 1 lol) and report back how far have you come with CPs and what do you have left to play.
You kinda got it backwards, its you who dont understand how stuff works.