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Nasty Players taking over Blizzard games?
UnleadedRev
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In my 23 years of PC gaming I have never seen such constant nasty behavior from people, unless it was in a Blizzard game - WoW or HoS.
I am used to the usual nastiness in World of Warcraft (WoW), but never expected to see it to this degree in Heroes of the Storm (HoS).
Yesterday, i was in a League match and this one player who I can say was the nicest player I ever ever came across in any game was healing us. He did such a great job that not only did we win decisively, but it was my best game ever score wise. Everyone gave him kudos for his team play and friendly persona. Well, I made him a friend and we grouped up for our next match.
Well, as anyone who plays HoS knows, there always seems to be someone with Disconnect issues (DCs), or lag, or other issues that are all Blizzard bugs. Case in point, for the first time ever I had so many DCs and lag in Hos around 4pm that I had to stop playing. of course, i was tagged as a leaver...but it was either that or just watch the DC screen with its server 'ahead" message and timer. Also, players were getting stuck with Heroes in the selection screen for League play that they didnt choose.
Well, my poor new friend who was the savoir in our last game, got stuck with a Hero he didnt pick and was not good at playing.
He warned the team of this, and even apologized in advance, but still said he would try his best.
Unfortunately, this kind of honesty might fly in other games but NEVER in a Blizzard game with its toxic player base!
Two players began to flame him over and over and over, I tried to defend him pointing out how great he was in previous matches, and to "layoff" as he got stuck to a Blizzard glitch, with a Hero he didnt select or was good at playing at.
BAH! They began to flame me and I was actually playing quite well.
This poor guy logged off after the game and didnt come back.....I had a sour feeling in my stomach and lo and behold 2 hours later when I was in a match as a "Healer" (Uther), I was in 2nd place to whatever that silly fish hero is called.
Someone in the group said to attack something, so I obliged and did, gut to my amazement the rest of my team did not attack as ordered. Oh well, no biggie...so I made a joking comment "LOL I attacked as you ordered but then realized I was the only one that did"...it was a light hearted comment....
MAN! I got ripped a new one saying I was a bad player a weak link etc etc etc, and I was in 2nd place in scoring as well as healing.
As a result, my block list recieved its first members...
Later that night, my wife told me I looked agitated and wasnt myself...to which I realized was true.
As a result, I uninstalled Heroes of the Storm....
I play games for fun and enjoyment, but when a player base seems to go toxic for certain games more than others, I make a decision that I dont want to be a baby sitter among a bunch of spoiled brats getting peanut butter and spit balls thrown at me.
Let these kids parents do that, as i have more important things to do, and better games to play with great player bases such as LOTRO and ESO.
I guess I made a good decision, because I read the reviews this morning on HoS ...a 6.5 out of 10, for many reasons design wise i already knew about.
Thus, I am glad to be rid of that game and its toxic WoW kiddie player base of rotten spoiled brats
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Similar to my experience when for the first time in months I tried actual matches again.
It made me go back to AI matches - not challenging but the people will be overall friendly.
Dota has been breeding this kind of toxic behavior since 2006+ its nothing new and is incurable disease.
Your situation strikes me as less of a Blizzard thing and more of a MOBA thing.
I was never able to get into MOBAs because, inevitably within 5 minutes, I wanted to kill my own team more than the enemy and would - inevitably - begin to feed deliberately because winning or losing became secondary to trolling the assholes on my own team... and then deliberately not conceding to play out the whole shabangbang, just to piss them off even more.
My buddy has been trying to get me into Heroes of the Storm for awhile - I admit, of all MOBAs, that ones the best... but the toxicity of MOBAs pervades through to that game as well. Sure, given time, I could *not* suck at it... but I don't have the patience to get to that point.
Geeeeezzzzzz, what is this world coming to?
I think I am just going to play with friends 100% for now on...
That used to be my rule, and I broke it, that wont happen again.
I say to heck with PUGS
A feel for you, mobas are usually much worse in that way than mmos. Even in something relatively mild like GW2 spvp I get hate whispers and abuse all the time. Actually, now that I come to think of it, no one has ever abused me in ESO, weird.
Those mobas are really fun though, so you should try and find a group/friends to play with then you probably won't have any issues like that.
Edit: haha, just saw you had already come to that conclusion
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I had made a post on these forums about turning off chat in MMORPGs for better immersion.....
Yeah, ESO has a great player base!
Nice coincidence, just posted about turning off global chat in the thread about good sandbox MMO features myself.
Thank god there will be no global chat in Revival (the next-generation horror/dark fantasy MMORPG I am mega-hyped about).
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nothing taken over here.
blizz always had this prob, but basically, it's a mathematical problem.
the more users you get, the more idiots
"I'll never grow up, never grow up, never grow up! Not me!"
1 A long time ago i said community did not matter much
2 I had never played a Blizzard game until Wow came out
3 I had never seen immature or bad behavior until i entered Wow on release day.
I knew nothing much about Blizzard,i had until Wow seen a little bit but never paid any attention because nothing they made looked worthy of playing it.However it hit me like a truck at how the game drew in the most immature players i had ever seen.My assumption of community changed big time after my original few days in Wow.After that i learned more and more about Blizzard gaming and it's followers and i did not like what i saw.
IMO their motto to make EASILY accessible gaming also attracts EVERYONE,something i was not used to outside of f2p games that until then were only in those cheap Asian games.
Fast forward,Hearthstone,merely a non chat card game,you'd think nothing of it.Well try again,just go into a Forsen chat on Twitch and it's scary ,feels like a bunch of 12 year olds in the school yard.
So although blizzard likes to make games to attract the biggest possible denominator,they also attract the worst people.I know some can overlook that,i cannot,no way can i hang out in a Blizzard game and as of 4 months ago,i no longer play HS nor any Blizzard game.Personally aside from the worst community i find Blizzard game designs to be really weak.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
When you stoop to their level, you become no better than they are.
There are certain queer times and occasions in this strange mixed affair we call life when a man takes this whole universe for a vast practical joke, though the wit thereof he but dimly discerns, and more than suspects that the joke is at nobody's expense but his own.
-- Herman Melville
That is why HOTS disabled chat to other teams. Unfortunately they cannot disable chat within your own team.
My take is ... just treat other players as NPCs, unless you know them in real world. If they do anything to tick you off, just quit their game. I don't think there is a good reason to tolerate random people on the internet, nor being emotional about it.
I know how difficult it is to continue playing when people are being rude and nasty to you. After all this is a past time why subject yourself to toxicity when you can just not play. I have been on the receiving end through no fault of mine in WoW that left me feeling stupid for actually caring about what was said. It is very hard to just let it be like water off a duck's back because you are hurt and no matter how much you tell yourself that it is the community and placate yourself with advice to ignore it... in reality you need to be quite numb to actually succeed.
Unfortunately some games do have a higher proportion of this type of gamers who abuse you and even when you gird yourself against it they still manage to injure you and at the end of the day you have to ask yourself is the game that enjoyable and worth the abuse. With WoW it was not so I left.
I found ESO while playing recently to have some good groups and I was not subjected to any abuse and also FFXIV ARR was good in this respect but I have come across other players abusing players in my group in FFXIV ARR. So it is all a question of what percentage of your game has this problem because I believe every game may have this problem but only a question of how often you encounter it. If it is not so frequent then it is totally manageable then one should still play I guess but the final threshold is your tolerance.
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Never said I was.
Not everyone who plays MOBAs are bad people. It's the toxicity that pervades the genre brings out the worst in everyone who plays it. I'm reminded of this comic I saw representing a good person playing League of Legends and, wading into a literal cesspool with a "LoL" sign next to it, saying "Hi everyone, I'm new here - what should I do?"... and just being consumed by hands and faces saying horrible things. Next frame, they're crawling out of the cesspool, looking like a beast saying: "LOL FUK U NOOB, L2P, U SUK, KILL URSELF."
Not everyone who plays MOBAs are a bad person - just enough of them are to turn the majority of good people into shits while they play with them.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I almost want to say usually its the guy leading or is ahead that is acting like an ass. Honestly, I hate losing. Pisses me off when doing a Gun Master round in BF3 and you have that one prick hiding in the shrub taking pot shots and winning. From what I've noticed its that guy that is in the chat acting like an imbecile. When I'm on a losing streak, jumping into chat and calling the guy out makes me look even worse.
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23 years of pc gaming and this shocked you enough to post a rant? You've been fortunate. I see people talk to others like that alot. More often they communicate to me, "man, this guy is a scrub", and that's still annoying, but at least they're not overtly disparaging the player with derision.
Most people do suck at things the first week or two. Understanding that in others, and in self, makes you a better participant in, well, anything. I'm not good at things when I first pick them up, and people have been harsh with me. It's what you do with that, if you really want to get better, that matters. I mean, if you want to quit, quit, but it's not everybody's job to act like a prozac patient in their pastimes just because I'm going to get offended.
Dude, that's all? It's a thousand times worse on LoL or DoTA 2 like many have mentioned. It's the nature of online gaming, especially so on MOBA's. When I use to play LoL, people would rip on anyone and anything, cussing up a storm and just being an irate idiot. You've got to just laugh off and have thicker skin because people try to troll everyone just to know they're pissing you off. Is it crazy people do this on the internet? No, not really. Is it nice of them? No, it isn't, but unless you or someone else has a way of stopping internet trolls and douche bags...well, what can you really do?
Just don't play with PUG's, stick with your friends, or ignore it. Nothing really else you can do about the toxic players out there.
You reap what you sow.
"What is truly revealing is his implication that believing something to be true is the same as it being true. [continue]" -John Oliver
Unfortunately it's not usually the opposing team that causes the problems, it's your own team.
Also, "just quit their game" is not a good option for some MOBA's. In DOTA 2, if you abandon too many games you get put in low priority for 5 games. I don't know if HoTS has a penalty for abandoning a match.
There are certain queer times and occasions in this strange mixed affair we call life when a man takes this whole universe for a vast practical joke, though the wit thereof he but dimly discerns, and more than suspects that the joke is at nobody's expense but his own.
-- Herman Melville
I self identify as a monkey.