speaking personally I would really really really really really really really like somoene to post of names of MMOs that are examples of 'not a themepark' or even better 'are a sandbox'
speaking personally I would really really really really really really really like somoene to post of names of MMOs that are examples of 'not a themepark' or even better 'are a sandbox'
Landmark is a sandbox
Also Wurm Online.
on that point Landmark = build things that dont really have a purpose Wurm = nearly everything you build has a purpose.
just side noting it
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There are pure sandbox MMO's like Wurm Online and so on. Games like ArcheAge or Black Desert Online are definitely not themepark, but they are not pure sandbox either. So yes, I would have to agree that BDO is more or less a Sandpark / Themebox. What sets it apart from themeparks is the amount of features and complexity, much like Eve Online.
and I agree with that as well.
what spured my question is when someone said BDO is a themepark and on that I dont agree and was trying to get him to provide examples
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It is Not a Sandbox in the sense that you cannot alter the world,..at All. No player run cities. No un-Instanced housing. Not even harvestor placement or territory claiming.
It is very anti-social in all the restrictions( to supposedly combat gold sellers/scammers).
It IS a Sandbox in the sense that it is not a lock down linear progression. You can do stuff out of order. Go grind or quest, whatever.
It is an online First-Person Farmville / PvP-grinder. Have yet to see Sieges and such which would mean fighting over pre-existing forts for tax revenue.
Altering the world does not mean sandbox.... Players run cities do not mean sandbox.... Un instanced housing does not mean sandbox....
None of the things you mentioned mean sandbox... they are parts of a sandbox... but they are not inclusive....
It is Not a Sandbox in the sense that you cannot alter the world,..at All. No player run cities. No un-Instanced housing. Not even harvestor placement or territory claiming.
It is very anti-social in all the restrictions( to supposedly combat gold sellers/scammers).
It IS a Sandbox in the sense that it is not a lock down linear progression. You can do stuff out of order. Go grind or quest, whatever.
It is an online First-Person Farmville / PvP-grinder. Have yet to see Sieges and such which would mean fighting over pre-existing forts for tax revenue.
Altering the world does not mean sandbox.... Players run cities do not mean sandbox.... Un instanced housing does not mean sandbox....
None of the things you mentioned mean sandbox... they are parts of a sandbox... but they are not inclusive....
that's cool.
Maybe I didn't express it well enough. I am saying that it is Both after all, a few sentences later.
I won't argue definitions , it's been done to death.
It's a Sandpark mmo, combination of themepark and sandbox.
EvE is sandbox (and obviously with some themepark stuff here and there). Imagine EvE today, if people couldn't trade directly with each other, share hangar space, do fleet operations having ships with fleet hangars at their disposal and so on. Not titans, no capitals, no large fleets, no intra-aliance logistics and mini economies, no big wars, nothing.
But BDO ? Where any group effort is prohibited by the game design (except some zergy pvp) ? Sorry, but it's a glorified singleplayer game. And near 100% pristine themepark from the start to the end.
What are you even talking about mate. Holy shit. It's like you haven't even played BDO and know only one thing that there is little to no player-to-player trading. I mean come the fuck on lol you must be one fit son of a gun by how many times you jump to conclusions. 10/10.
Mount Features -Wild Horse Taming -Mounted Combat -Various Skill System for Horse -Horse Breeding (Exchange Skills and Unique Color Outcome) -Various Horse Armor Pieces -Horse Auction System -ELEPHANTS!
Guild Features
-Guild Missions (Gathering/Trading/Hunting - in groups)
-Guild Wars (Territory wars, nodewars)
-Host taxes on territory you control on the local player populace
-Defend your fortresses and territory in epic siege battles
-Building (Command posts, fortresses, all in the open world)
-Paying system (Get to pay your loyal members daily)
-GuildHouse (Win a serverwide auction to have your guild base in the world)
Culture and Life Features -Trade System -NPC Trade System and Manual Labor Delivery -Farming Mode -Wild Life Gathering -Hunting -Leather Skin Hunting -Mining -Wood Chop Mode -Cooking -Armor Crafting -Alchemy -Black Smithing (Weapon Repair) -Medicine -Ok, I lost count...
Water and Sea Features -"Nice Boat" System -Big Boats? Briefly Shown at 3:50 -Harvesting -Classic Fishing Mini Game -Spear or Crossbow Fish Hunting -Hidden Islands with Treasure Hunting -Hunting -Naval Combat
Housing System -Instanced and Non-instanced Houses -Furniture System -Intractable Furniture -Custom Housing
Trading System
You can become a trader. Try to now the city/town economy and carry goods across to sell to npcs for higher prices depending on what they need or want the most. However in your travels be you in a group or solo there will be thieves on the road to watch over as you carry heavy trading supplies that slow your movement speed if you are carrying them via backbag.
Players can also opt to have their horses carry wagons with your goods and therefore carry more and move faster although on bumpy roads one should be careful as to not damage their items.
The trading system is also intertwined with the guild missions and can if used well earn your guild more income to help its progress including its own fair experience to earn guild points.
You could in theory hire or have friends as bodyguards to keep you safe as you travel from either hostile players or more commonly npc thieves on roads
Pet System -Cats -More Cats -Dogs -Pet Emotes -Falcons (Discover Hidden Areas)
NPC Interaction -Relationship Points -Reward Players with Special Items -NPC Favors -Stealing from NPC's (Increases your Karma) -NPC Linking System -New Player Emotes
Extra Features World -Real-time Day and Night fluid transitions -Real-time Weather System -Rain affects environment (Wet Buildings and Characters Clothes) -One Big Open Seamless World -No Zoning -No Teleporting -No Instances
Some of these features mentioned are as of now in the Korean game but will be added to the NA/EU version of BDO very soon but we're judging the game itself as it truly is and will be and less in its infancy on the Eu/NA region
Sticky worthy post !
Pure poison for the haters.
Very nice indeed.
Forgot to add, crappy ass combat. I actually was excited for this game, but since the combat was absolutely terrible to me, none of what was posted matters to me.
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Landmark = build things that dont really have a purpose
Wurm = nearly everything you build has a purpose.
just side noting it
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
what spured my question is when someone said BDO is a themepark and on that I dont agree and was trying to get him to provide examples
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
The negativity here is so widespread... a bunch of cynical rhetoric ...
There is no "concrete" definition for sandbox.... there is no "blatant" definition for themepark...
By some peoples definition of sandbox.. Hearthstone would be considered sandbox...
BDO is a solid game... it hits the right notes in A LOT of areas... it is the most complete action MMO to date...
Players run cities do not mean sandbox....
Un instanced housing does not mean sandbox....
None of the things you mentioned mean sandbox... they are parts of a sandbox... but they are not inclusive....
Maybe I didn't express it well enough. I am saying that it is Both after all, a few sentences later.
I won't argue definitions , it's been done to death.
"Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee
"Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee
Forgot to add, crappy ass combat. I actually was excited for this game, but since the combat was absolutely terrible to me, none of what was posted matters to me.