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The way F2P MMO's price their content is pure Cringe

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  • LynxJSALynxJSA Member RarePosts: 3,334
    LynxJSA said:
    But the Bonus only exists because its a marketing ploy! LOL

    Thats what im saying, its irrelevant information. It isnt "Actually" a bonus. In the core game with out without this sale, they give you 500Pts + 100 "Bonus Points".

    Its an unnecessary sales tactic haha. Im sorry but this is just funny to me now, I dont understand how anyone can know that information and defend that kind of sketchy behavior.

    Here's an example for you on the flip side of it.

    Imagine if you went into Target and it said "Sale" on the sign, for, lets just say, an Xbox.

    And then you look at the Price Tag and it says "Sale: $410 Dollars - $10 Dollars off". But the Xbox is normally priced at $400 anyways.

    So your not actually getting a sales price, your getting a jacked up base price with $10 dollars off the total to make it the original price again.

    So with LOTRO your getting 600 points regardless but they market it as "500 Base Points + 100 "Bonus Points" to make it seem like their rewarding you, or giving you some extra break.

    Again its cringe, its sketchy, and its obvious.
    You are working off the false assumption that the bonus point amounts have not changed in the past and will not change in the future. They are not a constant. 
    Ok a few things.

    1. No one can know whether they will change in the future - unless your secretly a time-traveler whose decided to spend his days going back in time to post on MMORPG.com - so that point is moot.

    2. Here is a video from over a year ago with the same bonus point values:  So unless you can show me proof that it has been different values in the past than this is the farthest back we can go back and yes its been the same.

    3. What proof can you show me that the values are NOT constant? I can give you video proof that they have been the same for over a year, what proof can you give me otherwise?


    https://lotro-wiki.com/index.php/Turbine_Point#Turbine_changing_Point_bundle_pricing_on_4_June_2013

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  • sludgebeardsludgebeard Member RarePosts: 788
    LynxJSA said:
    LynxJSA said:
    But the Bonus only exists because its a marketing ploy! LOL

    Thats what im saying, its irrelevant information. It isnt "Actually" a bonus. In the core game with out without this sale, they give you 500Pts + 100 "Bonus Points".

    Its an unnecessary sales tactic haha. Im sorry but this is just funny to me now, I dont understand how anyone can know that information and defend that kind of sketchy behavior.

    Here's an example for you on the flip side of it.

    Imagine if you went into Target and it said "Sale" on the sign, for, lets just say, an Xbox.

    And then you look at the Price Tag and it says "Sale: $410 Dollars - $10 Dollars off". But the Xbox is normally priced at $400 anyways.

    So your not actually getting a sales price, your getting a jacked up base price with $10 dollars off the total to make it the original price again.

    So with LOTRO your getting 600 points regardless but they market it as "500 Base Points + 100 "Bonus Points" to make it seem like their rewarding you, or giving you some extra break.

    Again its cringe, its sketchy, and its obvious.
    You are working off the false assumption that the bonus point amounts have not changed in the past and will not change in the future. They are not a constant. 
    Ok a few things.

    1. No one can know whether they will change in the future - unless your secretly a time-traveler whose decided to spend his days going back in time to post on MMORPG.com - so that point is moot.

    2. Here is a video from over a year ago with the same bonus point values:  So unless you can show me proof that it has been different values in the past than this is the farthest back we can go back and yes its been the same.

    3. What proof can you show me that the values are NOT constant? I can give you video proof that they have been the same for over a year, what proof can you give me otherwise?


    https://lotro-wiki.com/index.php/Turbine_Point#Turbine_changing_Point_bundle_pricing_on_4_June_2013

    Touche' good sir. I concede my previous point.
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    LynxJSA said:
    Heretique said:
    You don't have to agree with it but as long as people keep spending the money, the prices will go up.
    Or, as that ad and reality has proven (at least for this sale), the prices will drop significantly. 

    The base is 600 points for $8.00.

    At that rate, you would get about 15,000 points for $200

    But you get more of a discount the more you buy, so it's 23,000 for $200

    And with this sale, you now get 33,500 for $200, more than double what you get at the base price. 



    Just curious, what could you spend that many points on? Monthly subs mostly?

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  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 8,914
    Kyleran said:
    LynxJSA said:
    Heretique said:
    You don't have to agree with it but as long as people keep spending the money, the prices will go up.
    Or, as that ad and reality has proven (at least for this sale), the prices will drop significantly. 

    The base is 600 points for $8.00.

    At that rate, you would get about 15,000 points for $200

    But you get more of a discount the more you buy, so it's 23,000 for $200

    And with this sale, you now get 33,500 for $200, more than double what you get at the base price. 



    Just curious, what could you spend that many points on? Monthly subs mostly?
    LOTRO sells everything , Stats Tomes , Skills , Mounts, Gear , Currency, Skins etc etc etc....
  • Po_ggPo_gg Member EpicPosts: 5,749
    edited November 2016
    Kyleran said:
    Just curious, what could you spend that many points on? Monthly subs mostly?
    That many points, actually nothing :wink:  As it was stated already a couple times (just lost in the static noise of cringe, gamble, genre is on decline, etc.), that bracket was added as a "counterpart" of a lifetime sub, meaning that you can fully unlock the whole game, starting from a fresh, free account.
    But since LotRO's model is quite flexible, and also you can get TPs by playing the game, it wasn't an advised route, ever. You can get to the same stage much easier and cheaper.

    And that's just the default $200 bracket... With the bonus, the 33k TPs, I honestly don't know. Buying cosmetics, or pets, or wasting them on similar fluff? Unless you're a totally free and new account, 33k TP seems pointless. Once you have all the content, there's not much in the Store... Personally I've had 4 purchases there in the last two years, buying the 4 updates (700-800 TP each, and sub gives you 500 TP per month).
    I think if someone would drop 33k on my balance, I'd just /shrug and ignore it, since I don't care about fluff, and nothing else is there I need or like. But that's just me :wink:
  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,386
    There is no subscription so what are you complaining about.
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