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  • skoupidiskoupidi Member UncommonPosts: 244
    edited February 2017
    DMKano said:
    skoupidi said:
    Aori said:
    skoupidi said:

    Mykell said:

    Respeccing isn't as hard to do as it used to be. Currency drops are a lot more common than at launch and if you raise the master Leo high enough you can swap Scouring Orbs for Regret ones at a discount. You'll be able to do fairly major respecs without too much trouble.



    Once you've played enough you realise most builds share a lot of common passives like health or energy shield and you don't need to respec them ever but if you want to swap from using axes to macs then you'll be able to do it easy imo.



    Exactly what i've been trying to say. Yet people here still don't get it, maybe because they haven't even tried the game for more than a a few hours.
    That's what becoming more of a problem lately, people just think they more experienced than the ones who really have experience in it.
    I have almost 500 hours into PoE, I've experienced it enough to form an educated opinion.
    Then explain this. I started last league as a life based shadow/assassin whit daggers. After i managed to get 2x scourge claws i spend like 15-20 regrets and switched my dagger nodes to claws. After that i got some es gear and decided to switch to ES instead of life, spent another 20-30 regret and switched to es. After that i got my hands on a mirror and mirrored the best dagger on the league. No problem, i spent another 20 regrets switching my build to dagger/shield/ES. Meanwhile i did all that by actually playing the game for 4~5 hours a day.

    I don't know what more you guys are asking for, i really i don't get it.

    4-5 hours a day??? on a single game?

    I spend less time than that daily and play at least 4+ different MMOs during a couple of hours

    Again - this is why I don't play PoE - not willing to no-life just so I can do something basic as freaking reallocate spec points, yeah no thanks.
    You don't have to spend that much time. It's my main game and i have lots of free time (unemployed). But if you can only spare 20-30 minutes a day on a game, then obviously you won't be able to achive much in a grinding game like POE, D3 suits your schedule way more. Just don't assume that respecing is hard for poeple that can spend a few hours a week playing poe.
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  • Tiamat64Tiamat64 Member RarePosts: 1,545
    skoupidi said:
    You don't have to spend that much time. It's my main game and i have lots of free time (unemployed). 
    skoupidi said:
    You people are either hopeless or missinformed or just stuborn or all of those together. 


    Well, if your goal was to convince us peeps who decided to not go back to PoE to like, not go back to PoE, you've done a stellar job.

    For the sake of Grinding Gears Games, here's hoping the game can survive and flourish in spite of "defenders" like this.
  • skoupidiskoupidi Member UncommonPosts: 244
    Tiamat64 said:
    skoupidi said:
    You don't have to spend that much time. It's my main game and i have lots of free time (unemployed). 
    skoupidi said:
    You people are either hopeless or missinformed or just stuborn or all of those together. 


    Well, if your goal was to convince us peeps who decided to not go back to PoE to like, not go back to PoE, you've done a stellar job.

    For the sake of Grinding Gears Games, here's hoping the game can survive and flourish in spite of "defenders" like this.
    I don't want to convince anyone about anything. Reading false information spread by people in this thread just made me flip a little. Sorry if i offended anyone, but since i know the game and its mechanics so well, i can't keep reading that respeccing is hard in poe, when it definitely isn't. Unless you plan on spending 1 hour a week on a grinding game like this one, then you will have zero trouble respeccing your character.
  • gipfeligipfeli Member UncommonPosts: 98
    skoupidi said:
    Tiamat64 said:
    skoupidi said:
    You don't have to spend that much time. It's my main game and i have lots of free time (unemployed). 
    skoupidi said:
    You people are either hopeless or missinformed or just stuborn or all of those together. 


    Well, if your goal was to convince us peeps who decided to not go back to PoE to like, not go back to PoE, you've done a stellar job.

    For the sake of Grinding Gears Games, here's hoping the game can survive and flourish in spite of "defenders" like this.
    I don't want to convince anyone about anything. Reading false information spread by people in this thread just made me flip a little. Sorry if i offended anyone, but since i know the game and its mechanics so well, i can't keep reading that respeccing is hard in poe, when it definitely isn't. Unless you plan on spending 1 hour a week on a grinding game like this one, then you will have zero trouble respeccing your character.
    since it's your main game, since you know the mechanics so well, since you are able to play it 4~5 hours a day and since you have high level characters: can you confirm that a starting player can find his 20 chaos orbs in an hour of playing??

    because if so, i did something wrong °o°

    when i start a new character i'm a little bit affraid of putting my passive skill points into anything. even my first gained passive skillpoint i kept until level 15 or so because the routes i can take in that skill tree are going total different paths.

    i didn't like the feeling of being afraid to spec as a new player. do you understand this`?

    also, in your opinion, would it hurt PoE to have free respec possibilities? in what way?

    i still like PoE and i will totally be back for these new 10 acts *o* ! this respec thing is just a little thorn in my eye which i often have to defend myself for.
  • PemminPemmin Member UncommonPosts: 623
    edited February 2017
    gipfeli said:
    skoupidi said:
    Tiamat64 said:
    skoupidi said:
    You don't have to spend that much time. It's my main game and i have lots of free time (unemployed). 
    skoupidi said:
    You people are either hopeless or missinformed or just stuborn or all of those together. 


    Well, if your goal was to convince us peeps who decided to not go back to PoE to like, not go back to PoE, you've done a stellar job.

    For the sake of Grinding Gears Games, here's hoping the game can survive and flourish in spite of "defenders" like this.
    I don't want to convince anyone about anything. Reading false information spread by people in this thread just made me flip a little. Sorry if i offended anyone, but since i know the game and its mechanics so well, i can't keep reading that respeccing is hard in poe, when it definitely isn't. Unless you plan on spending 1 hour a week on a grinding game like this one, then you will have zero trouble respeccing your character.
    since it's your main game, since you know the mechanics so well, since you are able to play it 4~5 hours a day and since you have high level characters: can you confirm that a starting player can find his 20 chaos orbs in an hour of playing??

    because if so, i did something wrong °o°

    when i start a new character i'm a little bit affraid of putting my passive skill points into anything. even my first gained passive skillpoint i kept until level 15 or so because the routes i can take in that skill tree are going total different paths.

    i didn't like the feeling of being afraid to spec as a new player. do you understand this`?

    also, in your opinion, would it hurt PoE to have free respec possibilities? in what way?

    i still like PoE and i will totally be back for these new 10 acts *o* ! this respec thing is just a little thorn in my eye which i often have to defend myself for.
    20/hr chaos is absolutely doable i can confirm....im not a new player but ive done it solo self found which is a similar experience(often gotta respec if RNG decides to be funny with drops). you can also completely reroll a character clear up through merc act 4 and get to endgame in ~10 hours. you dont really start hitting gear walls until t7-8ish  maps

    my playtime ranges from 5-10 hours per week normally(i hit it a little harder during major releases thou). 
  • skoupidiskoupidi Member UncommonPosts: 244
    edited February 2017
    gipfeli said:
    skoupidi said:
    Tiamat64 said:
    skoupidi said:
    You don't have to spend that much time. It's my main game and i have lots of free time (unemployed). 
    skoupidi said:
    You people are either hopeless or missinformed or just stuborn or all of those together. 


    Well, if your goal was to convince us peeps who decided to not go back to PoE to like, not go back to PoE, you've done a stellar job.

    For the sake of Grinding Gears Games, here's hoping the game can survive and flourish in spite of "defenders" like this.
    I don't want to convince anyone about anything. Reading false information spread by people in this thread just made me flip a little. Sorry if i offended anyone, but since i know the game and its mechanics so well, i can't keep reading that respeccing is hard in poe, when it definitely isn't. Unless you plan on spending 1 hour a week on a grinding game like this one, then you will have zero trouble respeccing your character.
    since it's your main game, since you know the mechanics so well, since you are able to play it 4~5 hours a day and since you have high level characters: can you confirm that a starting player can find his 20 chaos orbs in an hour of playing??

    because if so, i did something wrong °o°

    when i start a new character i'm a little bit affraid of putting my passive skill points into anything. even my first gained passive skillpoint i kept until level 15 or so because the routes i can take in that skill tree are going total different paths.

    i didn't like the feeling of being afraid to spec as a new player. do you understand this`?

    also, in your opinion, would it hurt PoE to have free respec possibilities? in what way?

    i still like PoE and i will totally be back for these new 10 acts *o* ! this respec thing is just a little thorn in my eye which i often have to defend myself for.
    You are forgetting i was a new player once too. I was experienced in the genre though. If you go out blindly putting points on the tree without goals of reaching certain notables then your tree will be in a bad state. You have to plan a little ahead. Pick a few defencesive and offensive notables and work your way towards them.

    You wont come up with the best build ever as your first character, but if you put some thougt into it and plan ahead you will not have trouble farming dried lake and doing low maps.  From there you can only improve as you get more knowledge.If you put a little thougt into your tree and skill gems, it isnt that hard to farm dried lake and low maps(which means its easy to getm currency-regret orbs).

    Thats how i progressed in this game.Before i created my first character i thougt about what build i would like to do. I wanted a fast attacking dual wield guy with life leech and crit. Then i found the online skill tree and planned a little before i created my character. Took me 30-60 minutes of theorycraft to start that character.The first league i played i reached mid tier maps ( i wasn't playing that much back then). I still made quite a bit of currency and switched a lot of passive points arround from time to time, trying to get my build better. But i learned so much about the game. So the character worked, i learned a lot about the game and its mechanics.

    Next league i played 2 handed cycloner. It ended up being a walk in the park creating the tree, because it became obvious to me that no matter my endgame weapon choice, i knew where the life and armour nodes i wanted to pick up were. I started with filling a bit of defensive nodes and then generic 2 handed nodes.  Passive tree isn't so confusing once you spend some time reading into it and where its paths lead.

    Picking the skill gem you want and figuring out the right support gems is way harder than creating a working tree imo (as a new player). Switching gems(skills) doesn't require you to respec (its similar to d3 's hotbar skill switching). You wont have to spend any respec points on tree.

    TL;DR Pick the skill you want. Decide what weapon type u will use for leveling 1h/2h.Decide if you prefer armour or evasion or even a mix of both. Plan your tree getting some life nodes/armour/evasion/1h/2h nodes.
    Play. Learn more about the game's mechanics.Make better builds.

    EDIT: I don't really care that much about free respec now that i am a veteran. Its more usefull for new players. But it will make them think less about their builds and just go yolo on the tree because of the free respec safety net. I wouldn't change the feeling i had when i made my own first few characters work, because i actualy put thought and effort into creating them. Free respecs would eliminate a lot of that thought and planning, which is a part of this game.
  • gipfeligipfeli Member UncommonPosts: 98
    skoupidi said:
    gipfeli said:
    skoupidi said:
    Tiamat64 said:
    skoupidi said:
    You don't have to spend that much time. It's my main game and i have lots of free time (unemployed). 
    skoupidi said:
    You people are either hopeless or missinformed or just stuborn or all of those together. 


    Well, if your goal was to convince us peeps who decided to not go back to PoE to like, not go back to PoE, you've done a stellar job.

    For the sake of Grinding Gears Games, here's hoping the game can survive and flourish in spite of "defenders" like this.
    I don't want to convince anyone about anything. Reading false information spread by people in this thread just made me flip a little. Sorry if i offended anyone, but since i know the game and its mechanics so well, i can't keep reading that respeccing is hard in poe, when it definitely isn't. Unless you plan on spending 1 hour a week on a grinding game like this one, then you will have zero trouble respeccing your character.
    since it's your main game, since you know the mechanics so well, since you are able to play it 4~5 hours a day and since you have high level characters: can you confirm that a starting player can find his 20 chaos orbs in an hour of playing??

    because if so, i did something wrong °o°

    when i start a new character i'm a little bit affraid of putting my passive skill points into anything. even my first gained passive skillpoint i kept until level 15 or so because the routes i can take in that skill tree are going total different paths.

    i didn't like the feeling of being afraid to spec as a new player. do you understand this`?

    also, in your opinion, would it hurt PoE to have free respec possibilities? in what way?

    i still like PoE and i will totally be back for these new 10 acts *o* ! this respec thing is just a little thorn in my eye which i often have to defend myself for.
    You are forgetting i was a new player once too. I was experienced in the genre though. If you go out blindly putting points on the tree without goals of reaching certain notables then your tree will be in a bad state. You have to plan a little ahead. Pick a few defencesive and offensive notables and work your way towards them.

    You wont come up with the best build ever as your first character, but if you put some thougt into it and plan ahead you will not have trouble farming dried lake and doing low maps.  From there you can only improve as you get more knowledge.If you put a little thougt into your tree and skill gems, it isnt that hard to farm dried lake and low maps(which means its easy to getm currency-regret orbs).

    Thats how i progressed in this game.Before i created my first character i thougt about what build i would like to do. I wanted a fast attacking dual wield guy with life leech and crit. Then i found the online skill tree and planned a little before i created my character. Took me 30-60 minutes of theorycraft to start that character.The first league i played i reached mid tier maps ( i wasn't playing that much back then). I still made quite a bit of currency and switched a lot of passive points arround from time to time, trying to get my build better. But i learned so much about the game. So the character worked, i learned a lot about the game and its mechanics.

    Next league i played 2 handed cycloner. It ended up being a walk in the park creating the tree, because it became obvious to me that no matter my endgame weapon choice, i knew where the life and armour nodes i wanted to pick up were. I started with filling a bit of defensive nodes and then generic 2 handed nodes.  Passive tree isn't so confusing once you spend some time reading into it and where its paths lead.

    Picking the skill gem you want and figuring out the right support gems is way harder than creating a working tree imo (as a new player). Switching gems(skills) doesn't require you to respec (its similar to d3 's hotbar skill switching). You wont have to spend any respec points on tree.

    TL;DR Pick the skill you want. Decide what weapon type u will use for leveling 1h/2h.Decide if you prefer armour or evasion or even a mix of both. Plan your tree getting some life nodes/armour/evasion/1h/2h nodes.
    Play. Learn more about the game's mechanics.Make better builds.

    EDIT: I don't really care that much about free respec now that i am a veteran. Its more usefull for new players. But it will make them think less about their builds and just go yolo on the tree because of the free respec safety net. I wouldn't change the feeling i had when i made my own first few characters work, because i actualy put thought and effort into creating them. Free respecs would eliminate a lot of that thought and planning, which is a part of this game.
    going yolo on the skill tree should be the norm. of course just IMO.

    thanks for your time to clarify :)  !
  • DrisdaneDrisdane Member UncommonPosts: 97
    Will it be cross platform to XB1, or will PC players have to start over on new servers?
  • jbombardjbombard Member UncommonPosts: 599
    Absolutely love this game and the skill system is what puts it miles ahead of D3 in my opinion. D3 character progression feels super shallow. Not to mention these guys make you want to use their store by giving you so much for free you want to give something back. That is a real twist from a lot of games that drive you to the store by crippling the game.
  • UNH0LYEV1LUNH0LYEV1L Member UncommonPosts: 572

    DMKano said:


    43%burnt said:



    DMKano said:




    Pemmin said:




    DMKano said:


    Any way to easily respec as you wish? Or is reclaiming points spent still a crap process?









    still the old free respec every 4 months/ using regret orbs. 





    And that's one of the reasons I walked away - I need to be able to respec easily to try out completely different builds as I want.








    There is always D3 for the effortless gratification.



    And nothing wrong with that - being able to respec as you get different armor sets is nice.

    I don't see why this would be negative for PoE. Would this one change completely ruin the game?



    Because you don't understand the game. And there is nothing wrong with that. GGG want's choices to be meaningful. Respec orbs (regret orbs) are also part of the economy. Its much deeper than you realize.
  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,342
    edited February 2017
    DMKano said:
    Umm - dying in a PvP MMO means you're removed from the battle - and that's usually penalty enough
    So you do appreciate/understand death penalty...not much more needs to be said, same applies to respecs.
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