I played this a bunch of times. Every time I spent $0, and every time I made at least $5 to $10 in a very short period. It may change in later areas but I don't know. The game has no skill cap so you can max everything. I hate systems like that so that is the reason I don't last long. If character building was a thing in this game I feel confident I could play and make some money.
Well, this is what I get when I click the link at the top to go to their web site. I don't know Red, kind of a big red flag right off the bat...
"Your connection is not secure
The owner of www.entropia-universe.com has configured their website improperly. To protect your information from being stolen, Firefox has not connected to this website."
I'd totally play a game like Entropia with "Real Money" and "Cash Out System" though I hate Entropia's features because it lacks Customization, Graphics are really dated too and the game needs to draw more people in so they spend money where it be $10 or $100 whatever contributes to the games economy as long as it trades hands...
How this could work.
Free 7 day trial on a future game like such.
Monthly subscription @ $14.95
Additional Content and trading can be done for $0 - Whatever real money players set their own price for in-game items beyond the base price.
If you have to skip a ton of stuff because you'll lose too much money on it and have to be disciplined about what you'll do in order to play a lot without ending up as an accidental whale, I see that as quite a problem.
This is the MMO where you have to pour ridiculous amounts of real cash into the game to be able accomplish anything meaningful. Oh boy sign me up link my bank account............. no thanks.
I mean if you want to make money, you could pay a gold farmer in a low eco country or let him hunt for items. Business like this is a waste of precious lifetime.
I was in the beta for the game. You had to atleast fork out 15 bucks I seem to recall. When you did, I think you had to mail it, and I know you had to wait for the CD to come in the mail. That was also starting with dial-up also. They eventually gave us apartments and such, but for some reason I didnt use it much. I ended up moving maybe changing bank accounts or something and have never been able to recover any of that from then.
So if you think about it, when you are with the developers, ask them how I might recover that account. So long ago I know, but after all I was one of their initial investors. ? They may have been the first kickstarter. Def the first beta I ever paid to be a part of.
It was The P2W MMO when it was released, but as MMOs as a genre have become more P2W it no longer stands out as much as it did, just worst of the crop. A herald of the P2W genre we have today, it was slated when it launched, but now after P2W by stealth: early access, loot boxes, cash land grabs, buy a fleet of ships, skin economies and the like it no doubt will not get such severe reviews from the consumers, sorry players of today.
I do not think that word means what you think it means...
It can't be pay to win if you have to pay... to play? o_O The whole P2W label is grossly overused. It's typically thrown out either because a developer has dared to charge real money for something cosmetic that someone wanted for free, or because some kid has just learned that everything in life isn't free. How dare anyone be creative with their revenue model? Flexibility and innovation ought to be outlawed and everyone should be forced to do a generic subscription model! Who's with me!?
Yes it has its own version of P2P, which is why it is
so P2W, the two go rather hand in hand. It is not like a P2P subscription model
which creates a fair playing field, which is what gaming used to be about. As "Woe to the vanquished" said P2P2W. The
reason I do not support "flexibility and innovation" in funding models is
that such flexibility invariably leads to an unfair playing field and financial
malpractice.
That has been the history of gaming to date; I don’t see an
outbreak of ethical fiscal development coming our way.
I remember reading about some whale that bought a moon or something for a VERY large amount of real money.
10.000 dollars. And he made it all back.
No. Hundreds of thousands of dollars.
I used to play this many years ago while an influx of new players was bigger and reward algorithms were more "generous". Hunting umbras with opalo and a105 amp. But then they introduced new algorithms that take over 70% most of the time. The returns just dropped even on most eco gear. This is why I said "casino where you do not know the odds". I have friends that hold some of the ATHs in mining. I also have friends that have lost their shirt on this one.
I'm up about 1500$ but I could have made more having a real job counting all the time invested into this game.
Stay away from this one, it offers nothing but pain. My 2 cents.
No fate but what we make, so make me a ham sandwich please.
Just another payed comment about a company, that constantly screws its own community with lies and scam attempts. There is no communication and the content they release is always half ready or completely broken.
The main professions these days is crafting 2 $ items per click aka. "Explosive Ammo", which is nothing else but a "one armed bandit". Pure gambling. Players keep lending money to big gamble addicts, both sites hoping to get rich soon...always giving more money to the scammers, as they are afraid of loosing their previous "investments".
It was a nice niche product in 2004, with a nice storyline attached and real content updates every 4 weeks.
Avoid at all cost. Except you enjoy when hope dies last. ,-)
As the "official forum" (lead by a criminal, called Jason Peterson) constantly deletes unwanted content about this company, a good place to gather informations about the tactics of Mindark would be :
Just another payed comment about a company, that constantly screws its own community with lies and scam attempts. There is no communication and the content they release is always half ready or completely broken.
The main professions these days is crafting 2 $ items per click aka. "Explosive Ammo", which is nothing else but a "one armed bandit". Pure gambling. Players keep lending money to big gamble addicts, both sites hoping to get rich soon...always giving more money to the scammers, as they are afraid of loosing their previous "investments".
It was a nice niche product in 2004, with a nice storyline attached and real content updates every 4 weeks.
Avoid at all cost. Except you enjoy when hope dies last. ,-)
As the "official forum" (lead by a criminal, called Jason Peterson) constantly deletes unwanted content about this company, a good place to gather informations about the tactics of Mindark would be :
I remember that kunrad solo reez guy, i was too much of a noob to be in his orbit, but, the rule of thumb is that all the people with the huge wins, are the ones playing the $2 slot machine instead of the 2 cent one.
At the end of the day, they are risking more, if i do a crafting run for the equivalent of $150, the other guys are at $1000 or more.
Plus, crafting EP is a net loss since cost is 100% and return is about 90% of your tt cost in which the markup of the final product is only 102 to 103%. So if you gamble to infinity, you will lose your money 100% of the time.
My crafting runs usually are meant to break even over time based on my calculations. Usually the final product has enough markup to break even when the run is done.
Catch me streaming at twitch.tv/cryomatrix You can see my sci-fi/WW2 book recommendations.
The problem is people judge (and review) that game like any other when there's clearly nothing similar. If you ignore the RCE aspect of it the game sucks: outdated graphics, piss poor performance, laughable animations and interactions and more bugs than you can count. Very grindy and repetitive too.
Once you research a bit though, it can be appealing to some players. But it requires patience, self control and an inquiring mind.
Is it a money grab? well, like any other game, so what?
Is it expensive as hell? it can be for sure.
Can it be played on a budget? absolutely.
Is it a scam? Hell no, do you even know what 'scam' means?
That thing is old as hell so they must be doing something right. Might give it a go again after I'm done with metro. Hoping my account wasn't deleted :S
Soon as I saw this line: "there are aspects to Entropia Universe that I think are superior to even more modern games" I immediately knew this was a completely lame review.
This is by far the worst game on the market for anyone!. The worlds biggest game scam!
How anyone can even think about recommending it has to make you wonder about the reviewer.
In a game where you have to pay money to grind, that's right, you have to invest money just to grind and your chances of getting anything good are minimal.
The only thing I associate with this game is the word "Ripoff".
Of course, because God forbid anyone have a different opinion from you. Maybe just give me a list of games you deem worthy of playing? I'll let everyone who enjoys anything else know that they're wrong and that they need to learn to toe the line.
Is there a process for getting new games added to your approved list of acceptable projects, or do we just have to wait for you to learn about them on your own and let the rest of us know when a new acceptable method of entertainment has been approved?
Enough with the sarcasm, I feel sorry for you if you think this so called game has any gaming value. It is very dated and probably one of the worst pay-to-win games available. People need to know what it is and avoid it.
I have 8 land deeds that net me $10 a month total.
The game is like a casino, cant be P2W, the more money you bring in, the more you can potentially win or lose.
The game is actually fantastic to be honest, but the population is centered on 2 planets mainly. The other planets are fantastic but if people arent there to buy your loot, it is not worth it.
Also, the guy that bought the moon or whatever made bank off of it.
Have to disagree. It is the most pay-to-win game available today.
The worst part of Entropia Universe is the fact that when you deposit, they get your money right away, but when you want to withdraw, it takes about 3 months to get the money back minus their fees. They charge you fees to deposit your money, then they charge you fees to withdraw it. It's absolute bullshit.
It shouldn't take more than a week to get your money back out of the game, not no friggin three + months!
And don't even get me started on the "PVP". Whoever has the most money into their gear, ammo, healing tools, and skills wins, bottom line or whoever has the most skills in ships and weapons wins, unless you have a lot of friends with big pockets and go out ganking like "Nebula Virus" guild does.
PVP in the game is an absolute joke.
The game is somewhat fun to play if you like gambling, the lottery, and casinos. You can make money if you have no life other than logging in the game and waiting around to rob newbies by buying their loot dirt cheap and reselling it at max price but I make way more money working a real job and having a real life in the real world. I'm not going to sit in a game for 8+ hours a day to make a few bucks.
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How this could work.
Free 7 day trial on a future game like such.
Monthly subscription @ $14.95
Additional Content and trading can be done for $0 - Whatever real money players set their own price for in-game items beyond the base price.
A great game like such people would buy into it.
As long as the profit keeps being positive, ill be buying into the game, i mean tell me an mmo that nets you $10 a month
You can see my sci-fi/WW2 book recommendations.
I am the Cannon Fodder God
This isn't a signature, you just think it is.
Yes it has its own version of P2P, which is why it is so P2W, the two go rather hand in hand. It is not like a P2P subscription model which creates a fair playing field, which is what gaming used to be about. As "Woe to the vanquished" said P2P2W. The reason I do not support "flexibility and innovation" in funding models is that such flexibility invariably leads to an unfair playing field and financial malpractice.
That has been the history of gaming to date; I don’t see an outbreak of ethical fiscal development coming our way.
No. Hundreds of thousands of dollars.
I used to play this many years ago while an influx of new players was bigger and reward algorithms were more "generous". Hunting umbras with opalo and a105 amp. But then they introduced new algorithms that take over 70% most of the time. The returns just dropped even on most eco gear. This is why I said "casino where you do not know the odds". I have friends that hold some of the ATHs in mining. I also have friends that have lost their shirt on this one.
I'm up about 1500$ but I could have made more having a real job counting all the time invested into this game.
Stay away from this one, it offers nothing but pain. My 2 cents.
No fate but what we make, so make me a ham sandwich please.
They have been up and running for this long because they make a profit.
Cant be the worst monetization if they have been around for so long
You can see my sci-fi/WW2 book recommendations.
Just another payed comment about a company, that constantly screws its own community with lies and scam attempts. There is no communication and the content they release is always half ready or completely broken.
http://content-of-oblivion.blogspot.com/
The main professions these days is crafting 2 $ items per click aka. "Explosive Ammo", which is nothing else but a "one armed bandit". Pure gambling. Players keep lending money to big gamble addicts, both sites hoping to get rich soon...always giving more money to the scammers, as they are afraid of loosing their previous "investments".
http://www.entropiaplanets.com/threads/scamming-millions-since-2013-we-salute-kunrad-solo-reez-d.21790/#post-133651
It was a nice niche product in 2004, with a nice storyline attached and real content updates every 4 weeks.
Avoid at all cost. Except you enjoy when hope dies last. ,-)
As the "official forum" (lead by a criminal, called Jason Peterson) constantly deletes unwanted content about this company, a good place to gather informations about the tactics of Mindark would be :
http://www.entropiaplanets.com
Regards,
LeMc
If you cant see the difference then your part of whats wrong and whats fueling today's game design.
I sweated out a series of monsters for like months guys. Then met a epic guild leader who helped me along with a few choice weapon lends.
That lead to me eventually cashing out of entropia about seven years ago.
I made a decent chunk out of the game and I still miss it but it's dated feeling now and that's about that.
I remember that kunrad solo reez guy, i was too much of a noob to be in his orbit, but, the rule of thumb is that all the people with the huge wins, are the ones playing the $2 slot machine instead of the 2 cent one.
At the end of the day, they are risking more, if i do a crafting run for the equivalent of $150, the other guys are at $1000 or more.
Plus, crafting EP is a net loss since cost is 100% and return is about 90% of your tt cost in which the markup of the final product is only 102 to 103%. So if you gamble to infinity, you will lose your money 100% of the time.
My crafting runs usually are meant to break even over time based on my calculations. Usually the final product has enough markup to break even when the run is done.
You can see my sci-fi/WW2 book recommendations.
Once you research a bit though, it can be appealing to some players. But it requires patience, self control and an inquiring mind.
Is it a money grab? well, like any other game, so what?
Is it expensive as hell? it can be for sure.
Can it be played on a budget? absolutely.
Is it a scam? Hell no, do you even know what 'scam' means?
That thing is old as hell so they must be doing something right. Might give it a go again after I'm done with metro. Hoping my account wasn't deleted :S
/Cheers,
Lahnmir
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
We will agree to disagree. The enemy is the slot machine, doesnt change if you go in with $15 or $15,000. Hence, cannot be P2W.
Trust me i'd only recommend the game with deep reservations.
You can see my sci-fi/WW2 book recommendations.
It shouldn't take more than a week to get your money back out of the game, not no friggin three + months!
And don't even get me started on the "PVP". Whoever has the most money into their gear, ammo, healing tools, and skills wins, bottom line or whoever has the most skills in ships and weapons wins, unless you have a lot of friends with big pockets and go out ganking like "Nebula Virus" guild does.
PVP in the game is an absolute joke.
The game is somewhat fun to play if you like gambling, the lottery, and casinos. You can make money if you have no life other than logging in the game and waiting around to rob newbies by buying their loot dirt cheap and reselling it at max price but I make way more money working a real job and having a real life in the real world. I'm not going to sit in a game for 8+ hours a day to make a few bucks.