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  • gervaise1gervaise1 Member EpicPosts: 6,919
    Nhisso13 said:
    Cool. Another class to spam 5 skills over and over like a trained monkey because the devs are trash and wont let you share one weapon on both hotbars
    If you are going to troll ESO (again) at least take the time to actually find out how many skills are available during a single encounter. (Hint: its more than 5). 
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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    gervaise1 said:
    Iselin said:
    gervaise1 said:
    SlyLoK said:

    Stopped playing this game when I found out my level 40 well geared toon did less damage then a level 1 with no gear.

    I was attacking a mob near the starting city with my level 40. Then rolled a new level 1, and did more damage to it as the level 1 with no gear.

    Hours of playing to become weaker.

    If you were weaker then you should stop playing games completely. Only if you stayed in way under leveled gear would I believe that and that would still be a stretch.
    This certainly isn't the case "overall", Were fighting the exact same mob - whilst they are all cp160 some are far stronger than others. If so maybe it was RNG. Either way the reality is that a level 40 is not that much more powerful than a level 1. And whilst the boost that a level 40 gets is less than what a level 1 gets - on the basis that stat boosts have been applied, gear improved and new skills learnt - it remains very, very significant.

    At the end of the day levelling in ESO is not fast. Its a long way from level 40 to cp160. In time however the gains kick in and there is absolutely no doubt that a level 1 might rule the roost. (Although a level 1 with many hundreds of cp points ......... )
    It's just the same tired, dumb, troll, shit some people have been posting since level scaling happened a couple of years ago. Either that or a truly clueless horrible player.

    Mundus stones, food, set pieces that drop like candy and rounded out skill bars makes it so that a level 40 can't help but be tons better than a level 1.


    I know that could be what it is but I'm trying to give @Jordnivek1 the benefit of the doubt..... 

    It is hard to comprehend though how a person, even someone who has no real idea, can do less damage with a level 40 in gear than a level 1 without with no gear. You do get more powerful as you level. Period. The increments are tiny but they are very real even going from 1 to cp160 when the character boost is in operation.
    I used to be a patient and understanding person about outlandish ESO claims like you but then I took an arrow to the Igiveashit.
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  • ChildoftheShadowsChildoftheShadows Member EpicPosts: 2,193
    Need all these armchair devs to make a game. I bet it would be epic. 
    Viper482rkip
  • LokeroLokero Member RarePosts: 1,514
    Need all these armchair devs to make a game. I bet it would be Epic-Exclusive. 
    Fixed.
  • ChildoftheShadowsChildoftheShadows Member EpicPosts: 2,193
    Lokero said:
    Need all these armchair devs to make a game. I bet it would be Epic-Exclusive. 
    Fixed.
    Nah, they have standards.
  • perrin82perrin82 Member UncommonPosts: 285
    Looks cool. Good post Bill.
  • OzmodanOzmodan Member EpicPosts: 9,726
    Stopped playing this game when I found out my level 40 well geared toon did less damage then a level 1 with no gear.

    I was attacking a mob near the starting city with my level 40. Then rolled a new level 1, and did more damage to it as the level 1 with no gear.

    Hours of playing to become weaker.
    Typical Troll, just wants to stir the pot with complete nonsense.  Look how many of you fell for it.

  • XiaokiXiaoki Member EpicPosts: 4,037
    Iselin said:
    gervaise1 said:
    Iselin said:
    gervaise1 said:
    SlyLoK said:

    Stopped playing this game when I found out my level 40 well geared toon did less damage then a level 1 with no gear.

    I was attacking a mob near the starting city with my level 40. Then rolled a new level 1, and did more damage to it as the level 1 with no gear.

    Hours of playing to become weaker.

    If you were weaker then you should stop playing games completely. Only if you stayed in way under leveled gear would I believe that and that would still be a stretch.
    This certainly isn't the case "overall", Were fighting the exact same mob - whilst they are all cp160 some are far stronger than others. If so maybe it was RNG. Either way the reality is that a level 40 is not that much more powerful than a level 1. And whilst the boost that a level 40 gets is less than what a level 1 gets - on the basis that stat boosts have been applied, gear improved and new skills learnt - it remains very, very significant.

    At the end of the day levelling in ESO is not fast. Its a long way from level 40 to cp160. In time however the gains kick in and there is absolutely no doubt that a level 1 might rule the roost. (Although a level 1 with many hundreds of cp points ......... )
    It's just the same tired, dumb, troll, shit some people have been posting since level scaling happened a couple of years ago. Either that or a truly clueless horrible player.

    Mundus stones, food, set pieces that drop like candy and rounded out skill bars makes it so that a level 40 can't help but be tons better than a level 1.


    I know that could be what it is but I'm trying to give @Jordnivek1 the benefit of the doubt..... 

    It is hard to comprehend though how a person, even someone who has no real idea, can do less damage with a level 40 in gear than a level 1 without with no gear. You do get more powerful as you level. Period. The increments are tiny but they are very real even going from 1 to cp160 when the character boost is in operation.
    I used to be a patient and understanding person about outlandish ESO claims like you but then I took an arrow to the Igiveashit.
    I used to be a patient and understanding person about outlandish ESO gameplay then I took an arrow to the Igivethisgameanothertry
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Iselin said:
    gervaise1 said:
    Iselin said:
    gervaise1 said:
    SlyLoK said:

    Stopped playing this game when I found out my level 40 well geared toon did less damage then a level 1 with no gear.

    I was attacking a mob near the starting city with my level 40. Then rolled a new level 1, and did more damage to it as the level 1 with no gear.

    Hours of playing to become weaker.

    If you were weaker then you should stop playing games completely. Only if you stayed in way under leveled gear would I believe that and that would still be a stretch.
    This certainly isn't the case "overall", Were fighting the exact same mob - whilst they are all cp160 some are far stronger than others. If so maybe it was RNG. Either way the reality is that a level 40 is not that much more powerful than a level 1. And whilst the boost that a level 40 gets is less than what a level 1 gets - on the basis that stat boosts have been applied, gear improved and new skills learnt - it remains very, very significant.

    At the end of the day levelling in ESO is not fast. Its a long way from level 40 to cp160. In time however the gains kick in and there is absolutely no doubt that a level 1 might rule the roost. (Although a level 1 with many hundreds of cp points ......... )
    It's just the same tired, dumb, troll, shit some people have been posting since level scaling happened a couple of years ago. Either that or a truly clueless horrible player.

    Mundus stones, food, set pieces that drop like candy and rounded out skill bars makes it so that a level 40 can't help but be tons better than a level 1.


    I know that could be what it is but I'm trying to give @Jordnivek1 the benefit of the doubt..... 

    It is hard to comprehend though how a person, even someone who has no real idea, can do less damage with a level 40 in gear than a level 1 without with no gear. You do get more powerful as you level. Period. The increments are tiny but they are very real even going from 1 to cp160 when the character boost is in operation.
    I used to be a patient and understanding person about outlandish ESO claims like you but then I took an arrow to the Igiveashit.
    I think its the perspective of new players without the benefit of personal crafting toons, capped champion points, and multi-stat food. I went back to the game to try it out before this next expansion and sadly burned out on the game again in the first month. Not because it was harder at level cap but because it was so easy. I was even tanking group dungeons solo with my warden and DK.

    However, during that time I decided to log into and play second account I bought for a friend when Morrowind was five dollars, and she tried it and said "fuck ESO" and went back to Wow. The reason was is because I wanted to make a vampire and werewolf toon so I could just bite one of my own chars without having to bug someone else to do it. Low levels it was still a breeze, but when I got to around the mid 20s the difference became quite noticeable. Without those champion points, even with gear, and food, my sustain was absolute shit, compared to a character of the same class on my main account.
    Well you get a more thoughtful reply because I know you're not troll :)

    Were you stacking stamina/magicka? By level 20 those pools with foods and the appropriate sets for your build should be something in the range of 35-40K. Resources are not just about regen (although ESO in their "wisdom" nerfed the shit out of regen a while back to force heavy attacks,) the larger the pool the more sustain you also have. This is another case where size matters.

    ESO does have a hidden diminishing lowbee buff to damage and damage mitigation. You get 100% of the buff at level 1 and it drops by 3% per level until it's totally gone at level 34. In the PTS for the One Tamriel patch it wasn't hidden for the first few weeks. It' why I know it's there. But it's not a huge thing and normal leveling with the better skill unlocks and gear more than make up for its diminishing loss by a ton. BTW, resource regen is not part of that buff just plain +damage and -damage to you.

    I have a low CP alt account as well (CP 170ish now but when level scaling first came in it had no CP) and I have made many, many new characters in that account since other than muling, I use it to just mess around with wacky builds. I've done it enough times that I know for a fact that the skills and gear you get along the way leveling means that you are ALWAYS stronger as you level up. But I do know what I'm doing and stick to medium sets for stamina DPS and light sets for magicka DPS and healing builds.

    I don't normally do heavy armor tanks - just stamina DPS and magicka DPS or DPS/Healer hybrids, but I have done enough of them to know that they are much trickier to build at low levels because of the need to focus on all 3 pools. Resource regen for them is always an issue.
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  • MurmaiderMurmaider Member UncommonPosts: 123




    Wyverns
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    I personally can't wait until they add those winged horses to ESO, what are those things called again, oh yeah Unicorns. 



    Actually a winged horse is a pterippi.
    Useless facts FTW!

    On a side note, I thought it was awesome when I got a Unicorn skin for my mount in AC: Odyssey
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  • GreatswordGreatsword Member RarePosts: 414
    The expansion that brings non-retarded animations and a total overhaul of the worst combat system ever, will be the expansion that brings me back to ESO.
  • ChildoftheShadowsChildoftheShadows Member EpicPosts: 2,193
    The expansion that brings non-retarded animations and a total overhaul of the worst combat system ever, will be the expansion that brings me back to ESO.
    Considering few agree with you, you may as well move on.
  • Pher0ciousPher0cious Member RarePosts: 526
    edited April 2019

    SlyLoK said:








    SlyLoK said:











    Wyverns



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    Did you parade this with Skyrim as well? Get over it.









    LOL I couldn't care less. I just enjoy seeing who gets triggered by it. Got 1 so far. LOL






    If you couldn't care less you wouldn't have posted it.



    And no. I just find it funny that you believe that your diagram means anything in the world and lore of the elder scrolls.



    LOL!! Triggered you twice!

    I have 1000+ hours in Skyrim. Watched all of GoT. Didn't even notice the difference between DAI dragons and Skyrim dragons. Couldn't care less, and not my diagram.

    Your presumption fails, and you lose. LOL!!
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  • HashbrickHashbrick Member RarePosts: 1,851
    The expansion that brings non-retarded animations and a total overhaul of the worst combat system ever, will be the expansion that brings me back to ESO.
    Considering few agree with you, you may as well move on.
    I haven't met anyone that actually liked the combat system, in game or otherwise.  It is a terribly technologically flawed designed system.  No one actually likes it, they accept it which is completely different.  They know it won't change so they make the best of it.
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  • MurmaiderMurmaider Member UncommonPosts: 123

    Hashbrick said:





    The expansion that brings non-retarded animations and a total overhaul of the worst combat system ever, will be the expansion that brings me back to ESO.


    Considering few agree with you, you may as well move on.


    I haven't met anyone that actually liked the combat system, in game or otherwise.  It is a terribly technologically flawed designed system.  No one actually likes it, they accept it which is completely different.  They know it won't change so they make the best of it.



    Actually, I enjoyed the combat system. For me, it was just a nice change of pace from the typical. What turned me off of playing it was the grind for CP and it seemed dungeons were insignificant.
    I wanted awesome raids to do. I'm not sure of that has changed or not.

    But yeah, all of that and my wife and kids saying it was boring to watch me play all the time got me to move on.
  • Viper482Viper482 Member LegendaryPosts: 4,099
    The fanboyz have come out strong for ESO on this one. The game is just good enough to where many of us are disappointed. It could be so much better but there is so much about the classes and combat that is just....meh. 

    So yea, people are bitter. I wanted to love this game, I have revisited it several times trying new things. It is an awesomely huge world to explore but you are stuck doing it from a 71' pinto with windows that won't roll down.
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  • calibekcalibek Member UncommonPosts: 300
    I may come back for this with the necromancer. I quit in the first two months because of a mix of personal reasons and the end game system didn't appeal to me (which ended up getting replaced).

    I came back after the world scaling was initiated and I found it actually quite wonderful. It made the world somewhat challenging again. That is the thing I don't understand about some people. I play games for the challenge of it not to feel some epic super overpoweredness that it seems other want. It feels like all some people want (from what i read about comments in here and WoW) is for them to have a 1 button win system.

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  • TheocritusTheocritus Member LegendaryPosts: 9,976
    Thing is when the combat and gameplay is bad, then the class really doesn't matter.
  • TheocritusTheocritus Member LegendaryPosts: 9,976
    Viper482 said:
    The fanboyz have come out strong for ESO on this one. The game is just good enough to where many of us are disappointed. It could be so much better but there is so much about the classes and combat that is just....meh. 

    So yea, people are bitter. I wanted to love this game, I have revisited it several times trying new things. It is an awesomely huge world to explore but you are stuck doing it from a 71' pinto with windows that won't roll down.
    The problem was/is that many of us were hoping for Skyrim Online and ESO just didn't deliver...It doesn't even feel like an Elder Scrolls game to me.
  • Mr.GutsyMr.Gutsy Member UncommonPosts: 93
    edited April 2019

    Viper482 said:

    The fanboyz have come out strong for ESO on this one. The game is just good enough to where many of us are disappointed. It could be so much better but there is so much about the classes and combat that is just....meh. 

    So yea, people are bitter. I wanted to love this game, I have revisited it several times trying new things. It is an awesomely huge world to explore but you are stuck doing it from a 71' pinto with windows that won't roll down.



    I bought the gold edition. I tried to like it, over and over. The animations just makes my eyes fall out.
    Ozmodan
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