Howdy, Stranger!
It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!
Quick Links
SOE has made a fanboy out of me
pirrg
Member Posts: 1,443
Thank god for SOE. They are the only mmo company that are not afraid to push limits and explore moral boundaries. Im astonshed people are surprised by their latest move. Theyve dangled carrots infront of your collective faces for over 2 years and youve blindly followed them on their trail of broken promises. Every few months they introduce some radical changes and every single time the vocal minority on the official forums threaten to quit, sue and in some cases bludgeon. Yet two years later, there is a plethora of veterans still playing the game.
SOE knows this. They have you figured out. Thats why there is no discussion or feedback on the base concept this time around. The NGE is happening no matter if you like it or not because terrible though it may be, the majority will swallow it and keep paying.
I for one am excited by the new changes and impressed by SOE's blatant display of arrogance and apathy towards their paying customers. From experience, devs that listen to their players and implement their ideas and suggestions accordingly are the bane and strife of any half decent mmorpg.
/salute SOE
_____________________
I am the flipside of the coin on which the troll and the fanboy are but one side.
Comments
Could you please return to the SOE forums. They really want you back. They need players like you over there telling everyone what to think do and say. Matter of fact you should apply for a job with soe. They could use another employee just like you who shares there believes. Community be damned!
You sir are a righteous man. May we all worship this mans insightful knowledge. It must have been bestowed down upon us by some sort of god who this poster has gained favor with.
I totally agree. Why give the customer what he or she wants. They dont know what they want. Involving the customer in redesigning the product they are using would be completely counterproductive to the soe goals of getting new customers.
Great insight...
You welcome your new constant expansion making, player base ignoring, quest giving overlords I take it.
Either that or you've gotten too far in the irony of the current situation... The simple fact that one week after releasing TOOB1 they decide that things aren't going right. Add to that the Servers in Japan being shut off and you have a very "suprising" announcement. Suprising to most of us, but those working in MMOs in either designing or administrating probally not. AC2 did this as well and look what happened...
Hmm...let me try to sum up what the SWG playerbase has been like with a few sentences, starting from when the game launched, up until now:
PRE NGE: "You call this monotonous, grind-centric and hollow game Star Wars? It's about as far from Star Wars as you can get!"
POST NGE: "What's all this crap about making it more like Star Wars? Give us back our monotonous, grind-centric and hollow game!"
Yeah, if I was SOE, I'd just do whatever the hell I wanted to with the game from here on out, because no matter what is implemented, the whiners will come out in full force.
Do you enjoy popping in and just making up things? A few Points just because this guy is full of crap.
1.) SOE never stated the grinding was ending.
2.) The community is losing 3/4 of its professions
3.) It was released in the slimiest of all fashions
4.) Only a handful of correspondents where involved
5.) It didn't follow development protocols soe stated they would follow
6.) One character per server and no ability to switch classes after your 10 respecs so if you want to try commando after say bh gets nerf tough you have to reroll or get another account
7.) End of decay could totally end crafting
8.) Looted Items will be more prominent and further relagate crafters
9.) A fundamental shift of mechanics to a first person shooter which is typical not how mmo's operate
10.) It comes 6 months after the CU hit
11.) A lot of promises made where broken by this announcement
12.) CH content in ToOW is now totally pointless meaning any ch who bought the patch just got scammed hardcore.
13.) Bio-engineering as a profession is gone so those players are a bit pissed
14.) Not alot of information available and it was announced before it hit test which leaves tons of unanswered questions.
15.) It goes live the 15th of this month which doesn't give a lot of time to see the new system and get your current character ready for the change.
Just for the record im not being ironic, not in the slightest. Suggesting SOE will ever abandone SWG is plain ludicrous. SWG's subscription count is leaps above what AC2 had upon termination, and to top it off SOE still has SONY and Lucasarts backing them.
I completely agree with darkqueenblade, SWG players are quite possibly the biggest bunch of whiners in the history of any mmo.
_____________________
I am the flipside of the coin on which the troll and the fanboy are but one side.
I'm only 'full of crap' because you don't agree with me. There will be a plethora of people who think this change will be good; personally I'm glad you're not one of them.
I applaud their effort to make a more Star Wars-like experience out of the game. More power to them.
I can agree with you to some extend.
I was a fan of the Amiga500, which was at least 5 years in advance compare to a PC...even friends with 486 5 years later come to play at my house.
However, I agree with you only when they know what they are doing. Which is something that can be argued with SoE.
Devs need to do what is best for their players, the casuals and the hardcores, the soloers and the raiders. SoE cater only to a few minority and are unable to please the majority, this explain where they are today, supported by a minority while the majority doesnt even consider buying their products.
Amiga500 team was extremely arrogant, they didnt let user personalised their computer, they know what was good for us...and they where right! That is why I support them, I was a dumb but happy user. SoE have no idea what is good for me, thereby I will not support them. I don't care if they listen or not to my yap, but I do care about the final product.
I rather play WoW than play a SoE product. Blizzard has the same arrogance, the same attitude, but they understand that rather than please the minority of hardcores, they need to please the casual, which is a start. Good devs would please everyone, by having gear that doesnt work in casuals area and so on, a long progression of level and gear caps. But that is something I fear most peoples here can't understand, I am not even sure SoE devs can understand it...and if they can, they are prolly afraid by the amount of work involved, which disqualify them right away.
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
Wow.. when I first read the post I thought the guy was being sarcastic.
$OE uber alles. Screw the subscribers, we'll TELL them what they want.
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
SOE doesn't give a rats-a$$ about the "Star Wars experience. They want subscribers, any way they can get them.
Seems they have figured that if a relatively "simple" game like WoW can get subscribers by the million, then they have to make SWG nice and simple too. If even a 10-year old can pick it up and play from day one (as a Jedi too), that should do the trick, not so ?
Away with all those confusing choices, put the player on rails, give them a clear progression path (and lock them into it), and SWG becomes a much "better" game (it's so much simpler now, after all).
WTG SOE !
Pirrg is part of the minority catered to by SoE devs.
Don't listen to him to seriously. I would even goes as far as saying that you, Shayde, are not a fanboi at all when it come down to compare with someone like Pirrg.
And to the other user...making a simple game that appeal to the masses is prolly a better idea than making a minority game, however, they are to late, WoW is there.
SoE should focus on a real winning strategy rather than on making many games. They already have the raiding folks in EQ, the social driven folks in EQ2. They need to get a game that get every type of player in it...and that means a LOT of work. EQ2 budget would prolly have been sufficient if the devs know what they are doing, but if they dont, the budget would need to be incredible.
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
I hope you seriously wouldn't even think "Shayde" "SWG" and "Fanboi" in the same sentence without using NOT in it.
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
Finally someone that agrees with me.
I once too hated SOE as much as you lot but i have seen the light. The dedication they show towards their game is not to be taken lightly.
Exciting times ahed! Go SOE!
_____________________
I am the flipside of the coin on which the troll and the fanboy are but one side.
I'm only 'full of crap' because you don't agree with me. There will be a plethora of people who think this change will be good; personally I'm glad you're not one of them.
I applaud their effort to make a more Star Wars-like experience out of the game. More power to them.
Your full of crap because you made blanket statements about a mass of people that was not anything I heard from any person but those looking to discredit those who might not be "thrilled" with the prospect of another revamp of the game. I listed 15 such things people have legitimate concerns with. I don't have any OPINION AT ALL OF THE NGE BECAUSE I NOR MY FELLOW COUNTERPART TESTERS HAVE YET TO PLAY IT YET TO DETERMINE THE IMPACT OF THESE 15 POINTS.
I agree
9.) A fundamental shift of mechanics to a first person shooter which is typical not how mmo's operate
Funny... I thought people like new and different things in mmos. Last I herd, everyone was sick of the same old same old.
OK, thank god. SWG is my 1st and only MMO. I thought all MMO's were like that
I liked SWG pre CU and post CU. They both had their good and bad. What SWG did with ToOW and the subsequent announcement was BS. Unfortunately, I am a Star Wars nerd and will give the new game a shot. When the original CU came out I didnt like it much, more because it was change then the actual combat. I got used to it and actually enjoyed it quite a bit.
One thing SWG has over most other MMO's is the brand name of Star Wars. I would be willing to bet there are quite a bit of ppl like me that grew up with the original trilogy and are completely hooked on anything Star Wars. I think LOTRO will have this same appeal when its released.
This is my 1st post on these forums, well, because I am preparing to look for a new MMO. LOTRO looks interesting. While I didnt PvP too much in SWG, it was nice to have that option for a change of pace. While it is going to be extremely tough to incorporate given the LOTR storyline from the movie and books, I think it can be done, if ppl use their imaginations and are open to different things.
I will definitely be here in the near to see what games I may play.
Im still curious as to know why Pirrg posted what he posted. I know where he stands with SOE
Don't spam the boards here like you did within EQ2 forums, Pirrg; I know what you are trying to do.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.