lol, well u have to read again mr. Ktat last topic. the payplus isn't working at all now, becouse the game itself is in beta. as far as i understood exacly the pots will be one of the parts, where the credits will go, when the game goes officialy online. think again why this system faild with rf online. and why they r trying to make such great amount of preorders. i can give u my answer now, becouse this system will ruin the game, and hopefuly CM at all, since they r trying to come on the market with nothing new, than a nasty jewish market trick.
well then its obviously you don't understand. at all. sorry, but have you even PLAYED the game? because then you would know you can buy healing, increase attack speed and movement speed buff potions just ingame normally.
also, this system was not implanted in RF Onlline.
"2. The very idea to split a community by RL income is anti-social and never should enter the realm of Online gaming. MMOs are a place where everyone no matter what age, income, background or whatever has a chance to become a someone by his abilities. This systme destroys this age old legacy of computer gaming.
BOYCOTT ARCHLORD - BOYCOTT LEGALIZATION OF GOLD FARMING !!!"
this quote is actuly the main reason why me(and thousand of other gamers) are reacting that bad. in fact CM r separating the comunity of worse,bad and good only by the taxes they pay. I still can't understand why when i am able and willing to play more than u for example i will have aslo to pay more for it!!!!!!! This is not only silly. The next step is to recive a tube with Lubricant when u buy the scuare account and to follow the very first steps of the game instrution- meaning to put down ur pants, to use the lubricant and to wait for the pain in the *ss.
p.s.s. and excuse me for the offence, but either u r silly or u get paid to write nonsences here. do u try to explain me there is no difference regarding the game-play between the square and the lord account? or maybe the only diference is the amount of bucks u will give to CM? and for what, for in-game addons that won't reflect the game play at all?! man, if u still belive in Santa, i steped over it about 25 years ago....
I am not silly, I am not getting paid. I do something diffrent. I do some RESEARCH first before I open my mouth. did I ever say that people who pay more won't receive an advantage? No i didn't. I said that the advantage is not as huge as you would like to believe. in fact, a person who plays 15 hours on a squire account will always be stronger then a person who plays 10 hours on a Lord package.
you don't HAVE to pay more if you don't want to. Codemasters is giving you a Choice.
"If two players are of exactly equal skill and play for exactly the same number of hours each day, then the player who has more credits will have a slight advantage.
If both players have the same number of hours each day then I really expect a skilled and efficient player on a basic package to be able to outplay an average player who has unlimited credits.
But what I think you are really worried about is highly skilled players with huge bankrolls. The only way to out-level these guys if you are on a basic package is going to be putting in more hours than them."
Now, I don't know about you, but from my experience, it has always been like this. people who play more are stronger then those who play less. its the same like in every MMO.
Originally posted by greatwulf Ok,enough whined about it? Move to another game and troll there if you dont like it. Im gonna for the retail. Do i have low standarts? No, but you will prolly not understand that...
Actually, liking this game DOES mean you have low standards.
Originally posted by Gamepaused Originally posted by greatwulf Ok,enough whined about it? Move to another game and troll there if you dont like it. Im gonna for the retail. Do i have low standarts? No, but you will prolly not understand that...
Actually, liking this game DOES mean you have low standards. erm....No.
just because YOU don't like it does not mean it is a bad game. far from it.
Originally posted by Elikal I make this brief and simple. Boycott Archlord and the PayPLUS system. Reasons (simple and IMO): 1. How much money a character has and what items should EVER and ALWAYS ONLY reflect his game abilities and his player dedication, NEVER is RL money. The idea to see tons of spoilt rich brats in a game waving with uber gear they NEVER could attain by playing honest sux. 2. The very idea to split a community by RL income is anti-social and never should enter the realm of Online gaming. MMOs are a place where everyone no matter what age, income, background or whatever has a chance to become a someone by his abilities. This systme destroys this age old legacy of computer gaming. BOYCOTT ARCHLORD - BOYCOTT LEGALIZATION OF GOLD FARMING !!!
I agree completely, and consider them boycotted. Nor will I every play any game that follows this model. Some of us still take gamesmanship seriously.
Originally posted by Gameloading Originally posted by Gamepaused Originally posted by greatwulf Ok,enough whined about it? Move to another game and troll there if you dont like it. Im gonna for the retail. Do i have low standarts? No, but you will prolly not understand that...
Actually, liking this game DOES mean you have low standards. erm....No.
just because YOU don't like it does not mean it is a bad game. far from it.
Originally posted by Gamepaused Originally posted by Gameloading Originally posted by Gamepaused Originally posted by greatwulf Ok,enough whined about it? Move to another game and troll there if you dont like it. Im gonna for the retail. Do i have low standarts? No, but you will prolly not understand that...
Actually, liking this game DOES mean you have low standards.
erm....No.
just because YOU don't like it does not mean it is a bad game. far from it.
Yes it does Oh look, another "My opinion=fact" type of person.
Originally posted by Gameloading Originally posted by Gamepaused Originally posted by Gameloading Originally posted by Gamepaused Originally posted by greatwulf Ok,enough whined about it? Move to another game and troll there if you dont like it. Im gonna for the retail. Do i have low standarts? No, but you will prolly not understand that...
Actually, liking this game DOES mean you have low standards. erm....No.
just because YOU don't like it does not mean it is a bad game. far from it.
Yes it does Oh look, another "My opinion=fact" type of person.
Oh look, another "waa waa whiner calling people flamers while they flame and troll just as much" type person
Originally posted by Gamepaused Originally posted by Gameloading Originally posted by Gamepaused Originally posted by Gameloading Originally posted by Gamepaused Originally posted by greatwulf Ok,enough whined about it? Move to another game and troll there if you dont like it. Im gonna for the retail. Do i have low standarts? No, but you will prolly not understand that...
Actually, liking this game DOES mean you have low standards.
erm....No.
just because YOU don't like it does not mean it is a bad game. far from it.
Yes it does
Oh look, another "My opinion=fact" type of person.
Oh look, another "waa waa whiner calling people flamers while they flame and troll just as much" type person Well I'm sure you would be happy to point out when exactly did I "flame" or "troll"?
Just so you know I ve been playing F2P games since they started. 99.9% of Americans and Euros dont buy the item games , most Asian , and some US/Canadian members. Do they have a huge advantage? Hell no , here you can get a xp buff , the game current in Beta (and NDA removed) doesnt have any grind. I ve gotten most characters expect for the Orc Mage to 20.
Most of what people buy with credit from my experience with other games with simliar systems are fun items , like pets , masks , fireworks , and things are dont make you a God. Here we got short term buffs , and XP buffs , the XP and drops are really good in beta , XP is easy to get , I havent felt any grind at all on any of my characters.
I foresee people buy Keys (they make you open , silver and golden treasure chest for loot) and treasure boxes are semi-rare and the key in Beta is suppose to cost 400 credit. I also see people, especially guild leaders buying the group teleport orb.
I ve played the Korean one before this , our Xp and drop gain is higher , and the items seem to be following the same path.
For me I loving the game... My personal favorite is Knight , but I m lending towards the Moonelf Elementalist for retail. Which package will I buy? I ll take the 19.99 for a few months , the 9.99 one is for people who always complain about prices and time. I think this is the first time I ve seen a fair pricing plan.
And for the record ... those that say the riich kids will be ontop... they said the same thing when Lineage 1 started the ball rolling on 15.00 a month for normal rates. Oh no only people with alot of money will be allowed to play.... Lineage 1 had record numbers in 1998 -2000 after the price increase... we saw better costumer service , and more bugs fixed after the price was increased.
I wouldnt be surprised if companies start using a like system in the future , its gives everyone a chance to play. You dont have to be fully buffed to enjoy the game.
I've stopped posting about the Payplus system, because quite frankly, it gives me a headache, and it hasn't been publicly beta tested yet, so nobody who been in the Phase 2 and 3 beta knows how it really works yet.
How anyone can turn a blind eye to the possibility of an imbalance created by this system surprises me. Actually no, some players are simply not competitive, and won't be playing Archlord with that competitive style. They won't wonder why they seem to be at a disadvantage, even though they are playing the game on a regular basis.
Advantage is the fundamental thing that drives this system. If there is no advantage to purchasing the Knight or Lord packages, then why would a player opt for them, and how would Codemasters profit? There has to be an advantage, and I can't wait to see what it is.
According to Codemasters, the advantages will not impact gameplay directly. If that turns out to be true, it will be a big step in me changing my opinion of Payplus. However, what advantages are there in a competitive mmo that aren't tied directly to gameplay?
We need to see this system in operation before we really criticize it. I make comments about it based on the principles it follows, which is basically, "you get what you pay for", meaning the Lords will be getting more for the extra money they are paying. More may not lead to better, giving a Lord subscriber an advantage. I hope this is the case.
I don't see what the big deal is anyway, why do you care how i play. Some people use cheat codes and some don't. Its not like we are talking about super rich kids coming and buying everything up. If somone wants to spend 150 dollars to have a uber charecter overnight then let them, i got real life things to buy. Money will never replace skill, so let them buy the best armor and let a great build hard earn player own them. It will make the victory that much sweeter.
And I think it adds another dimesion to the game, the have and the have nots. People with not alot of money will have to take on the wealthy, just like real life in any time period.
Originally posted by Elikal I make this brief and simple. Boycott Archlord and the PayPLUS system. Reasons (simple and IMO): 1. How much money a character has and what items should EVER and ALWAYS ONLY reflect his game abilities and his player dedication, NEVER is RL money. The idea to see tons of spoilt rich brats in a game waving with uber gear they NEVER could attain by playing honest sux. 2. The very idea to split a community by RL income is anti-social and never should enter the realm of Online gaming. MMOs are a place where everyone no matter what age, income, background or whatever has a chance to become a someone by his abilities. This systme destroys this age old legacy of computer gaming. BOYCOTT ARCHLORD - BOYCOTT LEGALIZATION OF GOLD FARMING !!!
I actually made a similiar post on the Archlord official forums and they deleted it twice.
Originally posted by spunger Originally posted by Elikal I make this brief and simple. Boycott Archlord and the PayPLUS system. Reasons (simple and IMO): 1. How much money a character has and what items should EVER and ALWAYS ONLY reflect his game abilities and his player dedication, NEVER is RL money. The idea to see tons of spoilt rich brats in a game waving with uber gear they NEVER could attain by playing honest sux. 2. The very idea to split a community by RL income is anti-social and never should enter the realm of Online gaming. MMOs are a place where everyone no matter what age, income, background or whatever has a chance to become a someone by his abilities. This systme destroys this age old legacy of computer gaming. BOYCOTT ARCHLORD - BOYCOTT LEGALIZATION OF GOLD FARMING !!!
I actually made a similiar post on the Archlord official forums and they deleted it twice.
Originally posted by Elikal I make this brief and simple. Boycott Archlord and the PayPLUS system. Reasons (simple and IMO): 1. How much money a character has and what items should EVER and ALWAYS ONLY reflect his game abilities and his player dedication, NEVER is RL money. The idea to see tons of spoilt rich brats in a game waving with uber gear they NEVER could attain by playing honest sux. 2. The very idea to split a community by RL income is anti-social and never should enter the realm of Online gaming. MMOs are a place where everyone no matter what age, income, background or whatever has a chance to become a someone by his abilities. This systme destroys this age old legacy of computer gaming. BOYCOTT ARCHLORD - BOYCOTT LEGALIZATION OF GOLD FARMING !!!
Originally posted by timotybg Originally posted by timotybg I am agreed PayPlus is kind of try to rape the gamers comunity. I am totaly against it. It's the only reason that made me think and even decide to not play the game at all.I will also ask all the gamers out there to make everything possible to boycot this kind of pay system, since it is stealing from the gamers comunity and is dedicated , afterall, to change the main target of the mmos. It is actualy created( the pay system) to make legal that, what some calls "chinese farming". It is oblivious try to make the gamer pay for every second spend in the game. Isn't the monthly fee enough?!
the main problem is that u didn't understood at all the payplus system. but i will explain. they took for the 3 possible pay p[urtunities the average play time( actualy 22 hours / week). so for this time u will become with the scuare account 1500 credits, which will cover ur potions( yeah, there are no healers / buffers in game, u can only buy healing pots etc. with those credits) for not more than 20 hours. if u will try to play more, u have allso to try to play without "buffs" and healing pots, or to buy a lord account( for more than 40 hours/week). does that make sence in ur opinion?! the system is to buy stuff like Amuletts with 20 % more xp per kill for 3 days or Gold/Silver Keys to open some rare chest which you cant open without this keys or potions with extra defense or attack rate/speed or city teleport scrolls so no real big stuff ............
1. Game is shit. For me that is. I just don't like all this Korean crap and lame anim looking chars. 2. 40 euros per month they can suck me $%$@. 3. It is just lame that you need to use power lvling service and gold farmers to enjoy the game. 4. Really how bad your life can be (not talking about how rich or poor you are) that you will need this kind of e-penis enlargment. 5. The game is crap.
Imho.
Every time I read your post, I die a little inside...
Originally posted by DrSmaSh 1. Game is shit. For me that is. I just don't like all this Korean crap and lame anim looking chars. 2. 40 euros per month they can suck me $%$@. 3. It is just lame that you need to use power lvling service and gold farmers to enjoy the game. 4. Really how bad your life can be (not talking about how rich or poor you are) that you will need this kind of e-penis enlargment. 5. The game is crap.
Imho.
1.Will this be your last post about AL?
2.How much does it cost to see a ~2 hour Movie... ~ 40 euros?
3.WTF are you talking about?
4.How bad can you life be to post about a game you have no intention of buying..or playing the Beta?
Originally posted by RyuukoGo Originally posted by DrSmaSh 1. Game is shit. For me that is. I just don't like all this Korean crap and lame anim looking chars. 2. 40 euros per month they can suck me $%$@. 3. It is just lame that you need to use power lvling service and gold farmers to enjoy the game. 4. Really how bad your life can be (not talking about how rich or poor you are) that you will need this kind of e-penis enlargment. 5. The game is crap.
Imho.
1.Will this be your last post about AL?
2.How much does it cost to see a ~2 hour Movie... ~ 40 euros?
3.WTF are you talking about?
4.How bad can you life be to post about a game you have no intention of buying..or playing the Beta?
Yea cuz its okay to vigourously defend a piece of junk game like this, that means you have a great life. But you have no life when you state your opinion on a game you dont like...ok
lol, i am realy starting to belive u guys got paid for the silly things u wrote here:)
anyway archlord sucks. CM sucks even more. Those asskisses like gamepause(who is also big spammer) are the greatest c@cksuckers
Archlord bring CM on the bottom of the market. U will see when Aion and SUN come out. Sleep well and think for ur big brown hole. It seems CM r owning u:)
They are trying to do players with less $ a favor. To cover the cost of running the servers while keeping players who want to pay less than $15 montly, some players need to pay more than $15. The only way to convince some people to pay more is to offer incentives. I think it's a great way to keep more people involved and interested for different player types.
*i dont believe anyone is actually going to pay $40 a month though. $20 isnt bad*
You can't compare Aion, Archlord and SUN. they are completely diffrent games in many ways.
Aion will take take the "WoW" route in a way. no, it won't be a WoW clone, but it won't have clan politics like Archlord or Lineage 2. it will also have a diffrent way of character advancement, but no info is given yet. definitly a title to look out to, also, it seems SUN will be fully instanced, and is therfor no mmorpg.
now, Could you please point out which of these posts are silly? I base the posts on the information given and shown to us, you just assume things, so I'm sure its your posts that should be considered silly.
Originally posted by greatwulf More flaming please! Need something to laugh at.
My guess from now and untill the Retail Version comes out those who quit the Beta after playing it for a few minutes will still be on their Crusade to bash AL as much as possible.
Comments
http://community.codemasters.com/forum/showthread.php?t=121518
Now, I don't know about you, but from my experience, it has always been like this. people who play more are stronger then those who play less. its the same like in every MMO.
erm....No.
just because YOU don't like it does not mean it is a bad game. far from it.
erm....No.
just because YOU don't like it does not mean it is a bad game. far from it.
Yes it does
erm....No.
just because YOU don't like it does not mean it is a bad game. far from it.
Yes it does
Oh look, another "My opinion=fact" type of person.
erm....No.
just because YOU don't like it does not mean it is a bad game. far from it.
Yes it does
Oh look, another "My opinion=fact" type of person.
Oh look, another "waa waa whiner calling people flamers while they flame and troll just as much" type person
erm....No.
just because YOU don't like it does not mean it is a bad game. far from it.
Yes it does
Oh look, another "My opinion=fact" type of person.
Oh look, another "waa waa whiner calling people flamers while they flame and troll just as much" type person
Well I'm sure you would be happy to point out when exactly did I "flame" or "troll"?
Just so you know I ve been playing F2P games since they started. 99.9% of Americans and Euros dont buy the item games , most Asian , and some US/Canadian members. Do they have a huge advantage? Hell no , here you can get a xp buff , the game current in Beta (and NDA removed) doesnt have any grind. I ve gotten most characters expect for the Orc Mage to 20.
Most of what people buy with credit from my experience with other games with simliar systems are fun items , like pets , masks , fireworks , and things are dont make you a God. Here we got short term buffs , and XP buffs , the XP and drops are really good in beta , XP is easy to get , I havent felt any grind at all on any of my characters.
I foresee people buy Keys (they make you open , silver and golden treasure chest for loot) and treasure boxes are semi-rare and the key in Beta is suppose to cost 400 credit. I also see people, especially guild leaders buying the group teleport orb.
I ve played the Korean one before this , our Xp and drop gain is higher , and the items seem to be following the same path.
For me I loving the game... My personal favorite is Knight , but I m lending towards the Moonelf Elementalist for retail. Which package will I buy? I ll take the 19.99 for a few months , the 9.99 one is for people who always complain about prices and time. I think this is the first time I ve seen a fair pricing plan.
And for the record ... those that say the riich kids will be ontop... they said the same thing when Lineage 1 started the ball rolling on 15.00 a month for normal rates. Oh no only people with alot of money will be allowed to play.... Lineage 1 had record numbers in 1998 -2000 after the price increase... we saw better costumer service , and more bugs fixed after the price was increased.
I wouldnt be surprised if companies start using a like system in the future , its gives everyone a chance to play. You dont have to be fully buffed to enjoy the game.
I've stopped posting about the Payplus system, because quite frankly, it gives me a headache, and it hasn't been publicly beta tested yet, so nobody who been in the Phase 2 and 3 beta knows how it really works yet.
How anyone can turn a blind eye to the possibility of an imbalance created by this system surprises me. Actually no, some players are simply not competitive, and won't be playing Archlord with that competitive style. They won't wonder why they seem to be at a disadvantage, even though they are playing the game on a regular basis.
Advantage is the fundamental thing that drives this system. If there is no advantage to purchasing the Knight or Lord packages, then why would a player opt for them, and how would Codemasters profit? There has to be an advantage, and I can't wait to see what it is.
According to Codemasters, the advantages will not impact gameplay directly. If that turns out to be true, it will be a big step in me changing my opinion of Payplus. However, what advantages are there in a competitive mmo that aren't tied directly to gameplay?
We need to see this system in operation before we really criticize it. I make comments about it based on the principles it follows, which is basically, "you get what you pay for", meaning the Lords will be getting more for the extra money they are paying. More may not lead to better, giving a Lord subscriber an advantage. I hope this is the case.
Now I have a headache.
And I think it adds another dimesion to the game, the have and the have nots. People with not alot of money will have to take on the wealthy, just like real life in any time period.
I wonder why...
the system is to buy stuff like Amuletts with 20 % more xp per kill for 3 days or Gold/Silver Keys to open some rare chest which you cant open without this keys or potions with extra defense or attack rate/speed or city teleport scrolls so no real big stuff ............
2. 40 euros per month they can suck me $%$@.
3. It is just lame that you need to use power lvling service and gold farmers to enjoy the game.
4. Really how bad your life can be (not talking about how rich or poor you are) that you will need this kind of e-penis enlargment.
5. The game is crap.
Imho.
1.Will this be your last post about AL?
2.How much does it cost to see a ~2 hour Movie... ~ 40 euros?
3.WTF are you talking about?
4.How bad can you life be to post about a game you have no intention of buying..or playing the Beta?
5.See #4.
1.Will this be your last post about AL?
2.How much does it cost to see a ~2 hour Movie... ~ 40 euros?
3.WTF are you talking about?
4.How bad can you life be to post about a game you have no intention of buying..or playing the Beta?
5.See #4.
Yea cuz its okay to vigourously defend a piece of junk game like this, that means you have a great life. But you have no life when you state your opinion on a game you dont like...ok
lol, i am realy starting to belive u guys got paid for the silly things u wrote here:)
anyway archlord sucks. CM sucks even more. Those asskisses like gamepause(who is also big spammer) are the greatest c@cksuckers
Archlord bring CM on the bottom of the market. U will see when Aion and SUN come out. Sleep well and think for ur big brown hole. It seems CM r owning u:)
helping the lame to become lammer
They are trying to do players with less $ a favor. To cover the cost of running the servers while keeping players who want to pay less than $15 montly, some players need to pay more than $15. The only way to convince some people to pay more is to offer incentives. I think it's a great way to keep more people involved and interested for different player types.
*i dont believe anyone is actually going to pay $40 a month though. $20 isnt bad*
You can't compare Aion, Archlord and SUN. they are completely diffrent games in many ways.
Aion will take take the "WoW" route in a way. no, it won't be a WoW clone, but it won't have clan politics like Archlord or Lineage 2. it will also have a diffrent way of character advancement, but no info is given yet. definitly a title to look out to, also, it seems SUN will be fully instanced, and is therfor no mmorpg.
now, Could you please point out which of these posts are silly? I base the posts on the information given and shown to us, you just assume things, so I'm sure its your posts that should be considered silly.
Now with 57.3% more flames!
Question for some of you guys: what's the next beta you're going to leech onto and bash on various forums?
More flaming please! Need something to laugh at.