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  • GarrikGarrik Member UncommonPosts: 965


    Originally posted by Airspell
    LOL, so what you are saying is botting levels the playing field, but hardcore players will still have an advantage.  See my problem with understanding the logic ? Are we not clear on the definition of level playing field ? :)

    Botting levels the playing field in that if people dont have to worry about being out leveled or out geared, because they can farm all day and grind all day no matter what their r/l situations are.

    The only advantage a hardcore gamer would get is being able to do quests for honour and what not.

    Either way the bot still helps to level the playing field as far as pvping goes and that is one of the big things in this game.

    Maybe i should rephrase what i said to HELPS to level the playing field.

    I understand what your saying though. I did contradict myself back there. I hope that explains what i ment abit better.

    Garrik

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  • AirspellAirspell Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 1,391

      Well I did try the game. It is utter crap and I would like to know WTF takes up over 2 gigs of hard drive space ?

    I have seen plenty f2p games with a ton more content and a client half the size or less.  The graphics are pre 2000, content is barely more than the bottom of the barrel of f2p gaming.....  Seriously someone tell me what is taking up all this space, is it the super smart bot ai ? LULZ, that was a joke.

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  • BlomiBlomi Member Posts: 200

    Yeah you tried the game for 5 minutes.  Thats why you didn't notice the things that make this game great.  The graphi style is like Diablo, 3rd person isometri 2.5D.  But the graphics themself are better than Diablo.  And this is a true MMO, unlike diablo.  There are so many great things about this game.  You just have to get past level 15 to start to see them.  And that takes about 4 hours, so your 5 minute tour gives you opinion zero value.

     

    I suggest anyone looking for a new open beta or a FTP MMO get in this one fast.  They will not wipe when beta ends, and this is thge begging of something great.  Don't let the graphics fool you, this is a great game.  And people who played it for 5 minutes know nothing about what this game offers.  See you in game friends :D

     

  • gathgath Member Posts: 424

    Been playing for a few days, and... still not sure if it's worth it or not.

     

    Pro:

    better graphics then the first glance can catch (althought isnt something i look for)

    Click on map to move to that spot

    diablo style of play (althought lots of diferences)

    crafting gear (as far as i can see, the best gear is crafted, and not drops)

    Bot !! (you configure it, and go for lunch!)

    Maybe the faction wars, but not enough people/lvls and info, to know.

    a few more things like Housing, Mounts, Country chat, auction house, branch of class skills, and a few more.

     

    Cons:

    ... the grind, not even the bot helps. At late 40s it takes 2+ days, 24/7 botting same lvl mobs to get 1 miserable lvl. Game has atleast lvl 70 (no one actually knows what the max lvl is... that mutch of a grind!)

    Bot !! yep, also in cons... seeing 5 people in team, by multi-client, killing all mobs in sight, isnt funny. This happens in "any" game, by with the bot configured properly, heals, dps, potions, loot, anything is done. Also, almost everyone lets the bot on mob spots over the night (and day!). With 3-5+ people on 1 spot, it's very hard to get any kill.

    crafting... oh yeah, also in cons... altought i love crafting of any kind, this one is also a grind! Do 480 of this to get the next crafting lvl. Now, do 640 of that... ffs.

    everyone looks the same. There's just slight changes, that after you played some, you can see that that char is a certain class, but besides your knowledge over time, everyone looks the same.

    althought this might not be for everyone, but there's alot of "location/actions" lag. This is: while using 2 chars, to team or trade, most of the times there's a delay of 2 seconds or so, for the char A to see the char B in place. Have 2 clients open, get one char to follow the other, change to the 2nd client, that char isnt seeing the 1st char yet, i wait a couple seconds, and there he appears...

    dont have mutch experience with it, only been in neutral maps a few times... but... will be almost impossible to lvl in neutral maps at higher lvl. Enemy faction + ability to config the bot to attack enemy faction + somewhat small maps + the possibility of having ALOT of people on 1 server = disaster.

    only 1 city per faction. There's a small village in the map you start, then the main city on the next map, then a small outpost in the last faction map before the neutral lands. That's it. The creators say each server can have 3000 players online at any time.... ouch!

    grind for Skill Books. Yep, you want to use the next lvl skill? grind for 2 days on those mobs over there, untill with luck, one drops...

    and some more, like limited space of inventory/warehouse, in conflict with the grinding crafting where you have to use around 800 peices of material to get from lvl 3  to 4 of a certain branch. A few events aparently are hour based "you can only enter if you talk to NPC between hour 19 to 20" kind of thing.

    I'm sure i could get several more Cons... but i'll leave it at this, since i am still playing it for now...

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • AirspellAirspell Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 1,391

    So far I see a ton more cons than pros.  Graphics are like diablo, along with 100 other f2p games, that look better than this one.  Hint comparing graphics to diablo, a game from the 1990s isn't helping your arguement.

    Many other f2p games have crafting and mounts and 3d graphics already. I haven't played much but I am lvl 19 so don't accuse me of playing for 5 minutes. 

     I can't see how anyone could like this game more than the better f2p games, but I guess someone had to play this asian junk in order for it to be ported to the west lol.

     Country chat , wow, hardly a feature worth mentioning considering almost every mmo has it these days.

    Basically I see one community member and some new accounts with less than 10 posts hyping a horrible horrible game, that's the bottom line.

     

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  • HashbrickHashbrick Member RarePosts: 1,851

    Garrik man i'm agreeing with everyone against your logic because they are right. You are like a kid in a candy store, "OMG I can leave and the game plays for me OMFG!! CoOlEsT ThInG EvA!!!!!1111111"

    First of all adding a legal bot to a game is idiotic that's like saying, "we know our game will suck so bad no one will really want to play it so we'll just let the game play for you :D. Here's a lolipop doesn't it feel better now :)" Adding a bot doesn't level any playing field, it makes the playing field irrelevant. In fact there is no playing field, cause who the hell is playing? Everyone is out getting coffee and skipping in meadow pastures as the game plays for them. You really don't see how idiotic this system is? Seriously?

    Secondly you can't compare EvE to this because there is no way in hell it is the same thing, you can't bot EvE to play the game for you. You learn your skills while you are away but at the same time you aren't blasting shit away and gaining in-game money/items from it.

    Thirdly there is no economy and will never be an economy. It'll be like pick a number out of the air. "Hmmm today I think I'll sell my glukgluks for 2903723490323432." And the players will just pay it as they are not earning the money, there would be no set prices, ever. Demand would play a game with the devil in this MMO, if there is no one that has it then it's going to cost you 3905723905732904 just because they can. Money will have no value as everyone is saying, everyone can get it and large amounts of it with no effect. It's madness.

    Quadly there is tons of people leaving and in large amounts because they realized it's not a game it's a simulation, it's like playing with a frickin neopet or one of the those ungodly amount of rip off pet device thingers. That's all it is, your character is a pet and if it's naughty you sentenced it to 3943209 more hours of grinding :O.

    Anyway while the devs try to spout this off as some glorious invention, people will see it for what it is. Worthless.

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  • gathgath Member Posts: 424
    Originally posted by Airspell


    So far I see a ton more cons than pros.  Graphics are like diablo, along with 100 other f2p games, that look better than this one.  Hint comparing graphics to diablo, a game from the 1990s isn't helping your arguement.
    Many other f2p games have crafting and mounts and 3d graphics already. I haven't played much but I am lvl 19 so don't accuse me of playing for 5 minutes. 
     I can't see how anyone could like this game more than the better f2p games, but I guess someone had to play this asian junk in order for it to be ported to the west lol.
     Country chat , wow, hardly a feature worth mentioning considering almost every mmo has it these days.
    Basically I see one community member and some new accounts with less than 10 posts hyping a horrible horrible game, that's the bottom line.

     

     I can get to 19 in about 1 hour or less. What do you know of the game...? Nothing.

    And, should i just post to bash a game to look cool, like... you, or try to actually review it properly? If you read my post again, i clearly state what I think is pro/con, not sure if i will keep playing, and that it needs some more gameplay to understand the 'end game'.

    Also, you should read the post you are commenting on, better. I never talked about graphics on diablo. I clearly stated gameplay.

    Maybe you should learn to actually test something... before trying to look like you know something about it.

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  • gathgath Member Posts: 424

    HashBrick:

    yep, pretty mutch what you said. Altought personally not sure if the bot is all that bad or not... still trying to figure out all the things it influences. But on everything else... you are right.

     

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  • AirspellAirspell Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 1,391
    Originally posted by gath

    Originally posted by Airspell


    So far I see a ton more cons than pros.  Graphics are like diablo, along with 100 other f2p games, that look better than this one.  Hint comparing graphics to diablo, a game from the 1990s isn't helping your arguement.
    Many other f2p games have crafting and mounts and 3d graphics already. I haven't played much but I am lvl 19 so don't accuse me of playing for 5 minutes. 
     I can't see how anyone could like this game more than the better f2p games, but I guess someone had to play this asian junk in order for it to be ported to the west lol.
     Country chat , wow, hardly a feature worth mentioning considering almost every mmo has it these days.
    Basically I see one community member and some new accounts with less than 10 posts hyping a horrible horrible game, that's the bottom line.

     

     I can get to 19 in about 1 hour or less. What do you know of the game...? Nothing.

    And, should i just post to bash a game to look cool, like... you, or try to actually review it properly? If you read my post again, i clearly state what I think is pro/con, not sure if i will keep playing, and that it needs some more gameplay to understand the 'end game'.

    Also, you should read the post you are commenting on, better. I never talked about graphics on diablo. I clearly stated gameplay.

    Maybe you should learn to actually test something... before trying to look like you know something about it.

    I was replying to both your points and Garricks in the same post, sorry if you didn't pick up on that.   You're both wrong and attaching your reputations to a god awful game, good luck with that.

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  • GarrikGarrik Member UncommonPosts: 965

    Attaching our reputation to a game. Hmmm some strange people about these days, do you really take games so seriously that you attach your reputation to them ? Really let me try and get this, apparnelty someone can loose reputation now (according to you) just because they like a particular game ? wow your quite obviously a dillusional forum nazi, goodluck with that.

    I simply enjoy the game, everyone likes different things and for me im finding it quite fun to mess about with, i didn't say anything about it being the best game in the world because it simply isn't.

    HashBrick, im cant even be arsed arguing with you, we will never agree and ill just get yet another warning.

    Anyway whatever guys, i don't give a crap if you agree or disagree with me about any game. At the end of the day everyone likes different things, if your dumb enough to knock someone for somthing they enjoy then you are the one with the problem.

    Garrik

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  • gathgath Member Posts: 424

    Originally posted by Garrik

    [...]
    Anyway whatever guys, i don't give a crap if you agree or disagree with me about any game.
    [...]
    That's basically it. If you like it, play it. If you dont, dont play it.

    Dont know why some people think they should post saying others should not enjoy some game.

     

    Now back to the game: in all honesty, i'm getting very tired of MWO 

    Some examples why:

    Had the bot on Immemorial tunnel all day, just to get 1 lvl -.-

    Then, left it unwatched for a while, to come back to notice 2 full bags of potions gone since i got "stuck" and would not move or fight, while mobs were hitting me.

    Then, another unwatch period, to see i got killed 5 times by an Elite.

    Bleh...

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  • HashbrickHashbrick Member RarePosts: 1,851


    Originally posted by gath
    Some examples why:
    Had the bot on Immemorial tunnel all day, just to get 1 lvl -.-
    Then, left it unwatched for a while, to come back to notice 2 full bags of potions gone since i got "stuck" and would not move or fight, while mobs were hitting me.
    Then, another unwatch period, to see i got killed 5 times by an Elite.
    Bleh..

    Guess this proves that playing the actual game helps, who knew...

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  • BlomiBlomi Member Posts: 200

    Best open beta this year.  I'm hooked :D

     

     

     

  • AirspellAirspell Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 1,391

      Well Garrik alot of people like crappy things.  All you guys have done is fawn over a game and don't even know why.  You have given absolutely no reason for anyone to waste their time and download 2 gigs of utter fail. 

      If you didn't care you wouldn't post about how great this train wreck of a game is. In doing so you did attach you ONLINE reputation to it, sorry.  If you recommend crappy games people won't listen to your recommendations next time.  You liking this game leads me to believe you have very little experience with online gaming in general sorry.

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  • GarrikGarrik Member UncommonPosts: 965


    Originally posted by Airspell
      Well Garrik alot of people like crappy things.  All you guys have done is fawn over a game and don't even know why.  You have given absolutely no reason for anyone to waste their time and download 2 gigs of utter fail. 
      If you didn't care you wouldn't post about how great this train wreck of a game is. In doing so you did attach you ONLINE reputation to it, sorry.  If you recommend crappy games people won't listen to your recommendations next time.  You liking this game leads me to believe you have very little experience with online gaming in general sorry.

    Lol your a joke Airspell, iv done tons of reviews on this site whilst iv been here and i dont tend to review many games badly, im a gamer i enjoy games i try to look for the good in all of them (some its harder to find than others) but in general i try to look for the good points and most people on this site respect that. Your flaming me and others for liking a game just because you don't like it. people like different things, don't be so ignorant.

    Your completey over the top, all this online reputation garbage. You speak about it like it actually matters, clearly you live in a fantasy world. I suggest you get a life and stop obsessing over your online rep.

    You are proving how ignorant you are by saying that you think i have little experience in online gaming. Do you realise how rediculous that makes you sound, i can gaurantee iv played more mmos than you have and for longer. I was into online gaming back when it was MUDS my friend.

    Atleast i give games ALL games a fair try to see how they are, your one of those numbskulls who logs on for 5 mins, doesn't like the graphics and then flames anyone who likes it.

    I really don't see what's wrong with enjoying an old fashioned style game like this, im not saying it's the best game ever made, far from it.

    I'm actually waiting for AoC to come out and whilst waiting im playing this and World of Warcraft, so i guess if i like crap things then the other 9mil people playing WoW must aswell.

    Anyway, i your destroying your own online rep for pointlessly flaming me, just because i find this game a nice fun space filler.

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  • asciiriderasciirider Member UncommonPosts: 16

    Airspell, you say the game is crappy yet you don't really have any valid points as to why.. points, yes.. valid...no.

    You're saying it's only the "noobs" with 10 posts who like this game. Well I'm anything BUT a noob on this site or to gaming. I've been playing MMORPG's since UO came out and hmm have been a member of the site about a year longer than you.

    Seems like your only goal here is to bash, and flame just because YOU happen to not like the game. I happen to hate MapleStory, but if people like it.. that's their perogative.

    Me and others liking it and you and others not liking it is all opinion. Comments like don't play it's crap, is your opinion just like me thinking it's great and people should try it. At level 19 you'ver barely scrached the surface of the game, and at level 43 there's still quite a lot for me to do as well.

    There must've been enough of a world wide call for it if they actually made an English version of the Chinese original.

  • gathgath Member Posts: 424

     

    Originally posted by Airspell


      Well Garrik alot of people like crappy things.  All you guys have done is fawn over a game and don't even know why.  You have given absolutely no reason for anyone to waste their time and download 2 gigs of utter fail. 
      If you didn't care you wouldn't post about how great this train wreck of a game is. In doing so you did attach you ONLINE reputation to it, sorry.  If you recommend crappy games people won't listen to your recommendations next time.  You liking this game leads me to believe you have very little experience with online gaming in general sorry.

    Oh... lol... what a bunch of "tauren dejects". You actually think i could care about what anyone thinks of MY taste in games?

     

    Hmm, let me guess, you only play a game EVERYONE approves? lol...

    What are you... a sheep? lol

    If anyone lost the reputation on this... that person was you.

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  • NovaireNovaire Member Posts: 46

    I would just like to say that a game who solves security problems with bots, by making their own bot, is just plain sad. (I have not had time to read the entire thread.)

  • BlomiBlomi Member Posts: 200

     

    Originally posted by Novaire


    I would just like to say that a game who solves security problems with bots, by making their own bot, is just plain sad. (I have not had time to read the entire thread.)

     

    Whats sad about it?  Its not a cheat or a hack, its a part of the game.  Do you also feel its sad the EvE online allows you to train skills without logging in for a month?

     I think the people that are against this just wanted to make their own bot and have the advantage.  Now you are pissed that everyone can do it and your advantage is gone.

  • NovaireNovaire Member Posts: 46
    Originally posted by Blomi


     
    Originally posted by Novaire


    I would just like to say that a game who solves security problems with bots, by making their own bot, is just plain sad. (I have not had time to read the entire thread.)

     

    Whats sad about it?  Its not a cheat or a hack, its a part of the game.  Do you also feel its sad the EvE online allows you to train skills without logging in for a month?

     I think the people that are against this just wanted to make their own bot and have the advantage.  Now you are pissed that everyone can do it and your advantage is gone.

    Yes, I'm pissed, because now almost everyone will bot, and level/items will not count ONE bit on skill, but rather, on the time you can have your computer running. And I like to see my advancements coming from hard work, not by sleeping with the bot on, and it's my opinion that in a game that implents their own bot, everyone is going to use it, and that is not a game for me. But if you enjoy it, go ahead.

  • GoluhGoluh Member Posts: 374

    Just by reading "ingame bot function", I hereby declare this game as UTTER SHIT.

    Have a nice day.

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  • GarrikGarrik Member UncommonPosts: 965

    Just wanted to add that the bot is good, but not so reliable that you would leave it on all night etc. Most people use it whilst they play the game to auto pot or use skills in a selected order.

    Either way, i'm quite enjoying that everyone is easily getting to roughly the same levels, it will make the pvp alot of fun.

    Garrik

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  • sbantingsbanting Member Posts: 238

    Hi,

    I've been laughing at the post while the game downloads, for some reason i can only get 380kbs so its taking forever to come down. From reading the website and the posts on this crazy thread, I will give the game a go, but am worried that the bots will just ks all your mobs so you can't actually play. Also it sounds like the bot is a kind of macro, like seen in RF online where you can set it up to automatically take pots for you when your health goes down to a certain lvl etc, which is a great feature cause I hate panicing thinking I need a pot, wheres the pots???

    I'll have a go on the game and maybe I'll like it :D

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  • asciiriderasciirider Member UncommonPosts: 16

    I stil llove how people have to flame, to put down a game they haven't even tried.

     

    at the very least. .create an account....download. .install the game and PLAY it for a few hours before making any judgement calls on it.

    Making an ill informed judgement just makes you look more the fool. If you play the game, and then post valid reasons then people may listen but like the one who declared it utter ____ because they read it has a bot? Yeah really in depth look at the game there buddy.

     

    Now People like BellaH, who have argued how bad the game is... Ok she has a valid excuse not to like it.. she DID play it and wel lwas actually the one to get me into it. I may disagree with her o nthe game, but hey she's entitled to her opinion because she at least DID try MWO.

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