I think there are alot of mini-game choices they could have done that would have kept in character. How about a game of virtual combat chess like the on we saw played on the Milenium Falcon in the origional movie. Or possible even just make it so the combatants competing were holographic projections of themselves. At least that would have removed the "bloodsport" aspect of it...that would at least make it a bit more palitable from a RP perspective for Jedi characters....without really changing much for anyone else.
Why does it even have to be a game game? Why not something more in-character, like the Sith terrorizing a village for some Sith-like purpose, while the Jedi are sent in to stop them? Could coincedentally play a lot like a game, but with explanations for the rules and everything that fit in with the gameworld.
Then take Huttball, and make it some friendly game players can play with their own faction, back on a safe homeworld. That'd be a lot less lore-breaking, IMHO.
I know not everyone cares about lore, or roleplaying, or immersion - but at least the devs of a game usually do. What bugs me about this is that it just seems like even Bioware isn't taking thier own game seriously.
When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.
i was considering maybe trying the trial of TOR one day, but with circus acts like this one wrecking every possibility of immersion, i wouldnt touch this game with a stick even if it was f2p.
how do you guys feel about Huttball? will you take your Jedi Master Sage or lvl 80 Inquisitor to play space football when theyre taking a break from seeing into the future, meditating, and toppling empires?
Ok, this ones just bizarre. While I could totaly see a Hutt running something like this.... it really boggles the imagination to see the Jedi Order or the Republic Millitary (or even the Sith or Imperial Millitary) approving of thier members of partaking of something like this. I could see maybe Bounty Hunters or Smugglers.... maybe even the odd Imperial Agent under cover.....going for it...but Jedi, really?
I mean, I'm really not up on my Star Wars Lore...but this doesn't make sense to me.
Jedi Master: " Beware Anger, Hatred, Agression...young Padawan...for these are the path to the Dark Side. When you are Calm and at Peace..then you are at one with the Force. "
Padawan: "Yes, Master."
Jedi Master: "Great, now lets go play some Huttball and carve up the opposing team for the entertainment of the Hutts. We can cash in on some nice prizes if we win."
I think i answered this before, but i'll do it again, not every jedi or sith follow the code so strictly as to follow the code to the letter. In fact considering there can be dark jedi in this game there is most certainly a chance a few jedi will just say forget (self censor on that one) the consoul i'm going to do my own thing, bring on the violence, anything to harm the other side (empire).
Plus we don't know story wise if the jedi even condone this action they may discourage you from doing it, but the game allows you to do it anyway.
On a mechanic end theres several ways you could do this lore wise but you run into a problem anytime you try to do this.
You can either restrict it to classes restricting the jedi but then the people who roll jedi will feel cheated and wil say oh so i can basically turn against the jedi, turn to the dark side of the force, and get grey skin and other things related to the dark side but because of my class i can't play this game..that makes no sense mechanic wise, not ot mention the sith the other force weilders can play.
If you restrict it to just non force weilders then you get the problem of uneven class balance, people will tend to play non force weilders because they'd prefer to get the full game rather then a limited version.
If you restrict it to a certain dark side rating then you get the very problem they are trying to avoid with the allignment which is the fact of people just selecting light or dark side choices instead of what they wanted to just get a certain alignment rating. So this option is no good.
So either you restrict players or force them to play a certain way in order to get access to this game.
Now you could say they shouldn't have included the game at all. In which case i'd ask a suggestion of what they could put in instead of this. Something that isn't capture the flag, hold this point or kill a certain number of enemies because we've seen that in nearly every MMO, plus that would just be a duplicate of what is already in game
I think there are alot of mini-game choices they could have done that would have kept in character. How about a game of virtual combat chess like the on we saw played on the Milenium Falcon in the origional movie. Or possible even just make it so the combatants competing were holographic projections of themselves. At least that would have removed the "bloodsport" aspect of it...that would at least make it a bit more palitable from a RP perspective for Jedi characters....without really changing much for anyone else.
Or how about we realize that this is a story, a narrative. It's not history, in which the story told is rigid because of actual, factual occurences. If the people who wrote this really wanted to, they could destroy the whole Degobah system and say it rebuilt itself through the cosmos before the movies. As long as it doesn't interfere with previously cemented timelines and story, they could do anything they want.......thus why this game isn't set during any of the movies, because that would limit what they could do as far as a running narative.
There is no disagreement that they can pretty much do what they want as long as they have approval from LA. It's not about what they CAN do....it's about what makes sense for them to do...and what seems to fit in well with the overall experience they are going for here.
I mean if they really wanted to they could make the current Emperor wear only pink and have a white bunny named "Fluffy" as a pet. That would have alot of entertainment value as well....but I don't think it would really fit well with the rest of the game.
I mean when I saw the first prequel in the Theaters....it didn't really seem to fit well with the origional trilogy. However, I totaly got what they were going for. I said to myself... "Ok the whole point of this movie is as a marketing vehicle to sell action figures and other toys to children." At that point, Jar Jar and pretty much everything else in the movie made sense...and fit in with that theme.
Bioware with TOR seemed to be going for something quite a bit more serious...especialy with all thier talk about...Story and dramatic narritive, etc....and then "Huttball" ? It almost seems like the Developer who came up with had gotten drunk and just got done watching a Mel Brooks movie when he hit upon the idea.
There is no disagreement that they can pretty much do what they want as long as they have approval from LA. It's not about what they CAN do....it's about what makes sense for them to do...and what seems to fit in well with the overall experience they are going for here.
I mean if they really wanted to they could make the current Emperor wear only pink and have a white bunny named "Fluffy" as a pet. That would have alot of entertainment value as well....but I don't think it would really fit well with the rest of the game.
I mean when I saw the first prequel in the Theaters....it didn't really seem to fit well with the origional trilogy. However, I totaly got what they were going for. I said to myself... "Ok the whole point of this movie is as a marketing vehicle to sell action figures and other toys to children." At that point, Jar Jar and pretty much everything else in the movie made sense...and fit in with that theme.
Bioware with TOR seemed to be going for something quite a bit more serious...especialy with all thier talk about...Story and dramatic narritive, etc....and then "Huttball" ? It almost seems like the Developer who came up with had gotten drunk and just got done watching a Mel Brooks movie when he hit upon the idea.
Have you ever played other bioware games? Most of them have some pretty silly stuff in them even if the main theme is serious. They don't take themselves nor thier games THAT seriously. None of it has ever ruined immersion for me and this won't either.
First what's absurd is taking the lore of an IP too seriously to the extent you start puting it before fun, as you're doing. Second, this wasn't an addition based on story, immersion or any of those things, it's sole purpose is having some fun and avoiding regular PVP, at times when the two sides are unbalanced. Most emphasis is on fun, of course.
If Immersion is the problem, you would never have to worry about that if you decide to skip the feature.
Part the disconnect I think is that it's very at odds with the character of how they are portraying the rest of the game....which seems to emphasize story and dramatic narritive and even moral choices.....and then there's "Oh by the way, we've got Huttball too.". It just doesn't seem to line up with the rest of the presentation of the game (IMO)....or at least what it seems to be trying to be.
If this were WOW for example....I could totaly see it. Because WOW doesn't present itself all that seriously in the first place. Half of WOW's content is tongue n' cheek anyway. It's constantly lampooning itself, so another lampoon doesn't feel out of place. That's not generaly the vibe I get from Bioware games....they tend to try to present themselves more seriously.
It's kinda like a slap-stick scene stuck in the middle of a tear-jerker. I mean, even if the scene in isolation is quite funny itself....alot of folks would be like "Ok what the heck was that doing in there?"
It's why I called it "bizarre"..... as it seems a very strange choice that doesn't seem to fit very well with the other things they seem to be aiming for with the game experience.
I mean, if they are going to allow "Huttball" why not allow pink armor....or a companion droid that has a T-shirt saying "I'm with stupid -> " ?
I think it really depends on how you look at the overall picture. There is a lot that the word story covers in TOR, which (by their words) entails many hours of gameplay. They have world PVP, they have typical FvF BG PVP. They have the raiding thing, they have end-game solo story content. Then they have a couple deviations, space shooter and huttball.
People act as though Huttball is some serious deviation from Star Wars lore, I for one really don't see it that way. If you bring up Jedi yeah sure it's really not an activity they'd be likely to partake in. However their tendancies shouldn't guide what content is added to the game. A smuggler could find himself in such a game, as well as a cocky BH. Maybe even a Trooper or IA. It's definitely something I could see a Hutt running.
As for the two factions being at the same place at the same time, and partaking in the same activities. This isn't all that lore breaking either, as it fits the way in which the Stars Wars galaxy has always been in the EU. It is a galaxy wide civil war afterall.
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between the "They included this I cannont wiat to not miss playing not this because that was not included. And they forgot what they did not included in the release of the future but should have been in closed pre-alpha."
Huttball. Gay marriage in game. No real spce combat yet/never/maybe... Maybe I just tired and grumpy this morning. That probably it. More coffee...
- The notion that it doesn't fit in the SW setting is silly. Do you think the entire universe is devoid of 'fun' activities. I don't think so. Look at that silly speeder bike race thing. Are you telling me that they wouldn't have some other games that people play?
- The notion that it takes away from the seriousness of the SW setting. I say unto you that this is also false. Taking away the sillyness of the new movies with JAR JAR, and various other foolishness, lets go back to the hallowed original movies that some are citing as the seriousness of the topic. Does anyone remember Ewoks. If that isn't levity and silliness in an otherwise serious movie, I don't know what is.
- Huttball isn't mandatory.
- If it ruins your immersion, don't participate, don't watch, don't listen to anything doing with huttball. Too Easy... or I would think. This way your immersion isn't ruined.
- Another question, which goes to the seriousness of the setting. Would you take your level 843843 inquisitor to play huttball.. For me, sure, if I want. After a hard day of serious Jedi slaying, I may want to take a break and do something mindless. Play a game of huttball, then get back to slaying the rebels. Hell, I do that in with my games. I play an MMO for a couple of hours, then I go play something that I don't have to think to much. Maybe Tanks or some FPS game.
I'm offended that you're offended over a game putting something new to do in it. If you want vintage... go play Ultima Online otherwise sit back and enjoy the slow... and sometimes sloooowwweerr evolution of MMO's
Content = A+
Since we're discussing it, I feel I should add in IRL, when rich people are bored or athletes at the top of their game want something new... they tend to try MMA... so why would a space pirate not try a sport?
Yes I agree 100%. Two sides locked into a fresh galactic war should take up MMA instead.
i was considering maybe trying the trial of TOR one day, but with circus acts like this one wrecking every possibility of immersion, i wouldnt touch this game with a stick even if it was f2p.
how do you guys feel about Huttball? will you take your Jedi Master Sage or lvl 80 Inquisitor to play space football when theyre taking a break from seeing into the future, meditating, and toppling empires?
how can you not like this game if you dont know how to lighten up and have fun its like foot ball with no rules. :P i think its awsome
LA also gave us Jar Jar and Pod Racing so yeah......
Comming from the 30 year old that enjoys spoung bob, Ill give you Jar jar, but pod racing isnt that bad, we had swoop racing in both kotor games. Hutt ball may pull away from the story line sure yoda wouldnt be out thier playing hutt ball in the SW cannon, but at the same time this is a game, and they wanted to add fun elemants to the game. If they did capture the flag as a battle ground where does yoda fit into that? They already gave us battle for alderan a capture the point PVP arena. Huttball looks enjoyable reminds me of Frag ball or what ever it was called back in Unreal Tourny. All battle grounds out thier in current games are either capture the flag or capture points, its nice to see a twist on that with passing the ball. throw in force leap and choak will make for an intresting game.
I think there are alot of mini-game choices they could have done that would have kept in character. How about a game of virtual combat chess like the on we saw played on the Milenium Falcon in the origional movie. Or possible even just make it so the combatants competing were holographic projections of themselves. At least that would have removed the "bloodsport" aspect of it...that would at least make it a bit more palitable from a RP perspective for Jedi characters....without really changing much for anyone else.
Why does it even have to be a game game? Why not something more in-character, like the Sith terrorizing a village for some Sith-like purpose, while the Jedi are sent in to stop them? Could coincedentally play a lot like a game, but with explanations for the rules and everything that fit in with the gameworld.
Then take Huttball, and make it some friendly game players can play with their own faction, back on a safe homeworld. That'd be a lot less lore-breaking, IMHO.
I know not everyone cares about lore, or roleplaying, or immersion - but at least the devs of a game usually do. What bugs me about this is that it just seems like even Bioware isn't taking thier own game seriously.
mmmm sith terrorizing a village, yeah well thats the bulk of the game, thats called the main plot.
now were talking about a pvp battle ground, they gave us battle for alderan, you defend poitns so you can use turbo lasors to shoot down the other sides ship.
To the poster that said what about some battle chess games? Yeah because im sure a sith lord is gonna come up to a jedi/smuggler/trooper and say hey buddie Clearly we need to settle this war over a chess game please come join me for some tea while we sit 3 feet from each other and not use any of our natural abilitys to determin the out come of the univers. And then at the end of it you get PVP gear for such a great game of chess...
I would be glad to see battle chess put into the game along with pazzak, and swoop racing. but these are not pvp battlegrounds, these are just games.
Look they gave us a pvp system so the people that are on PvE servers something to do during there down time, this PvP system will also be used to give PvP servers access to PvP gear. now they could just go with some stander CTF, and capture points. but instead of dong CTF, they choose to go with Hutt ball, where you have to score on the other team pass the ball and move slower with the ball in your hands, sure its not somehing you would expect to see, but if you dont want to pvp then done que up for it. no one says you have to. the game isnt gonna be just PVP huttball 24/7. this just gives us a new option in the BG department.
i was considering maybe trying the trial of TOR one day, but with circus acts like this one wrecking every possibility of immersion, i wouldnt touch this game with a stick even if it was f2p.
how do you guys feel about Huttball? will you take your Jedi Master Sage or lvl 80 Inquisitor to play space football when theyre taking a break from seeing into the future, meditating, and toppling empires?
Life is tough for the Jedi boys. That's why I will roll a bounty hounter; while the Jedi boys meditate I will be enjoying women, drugs, alcohol and punk rock.
Anyway... huttball is supposed to be optional, isn't it?
i was considering maybe trying the trial of TOR one day, but with circus acts like this one wrecking every possibility of immersion, i wouldnt touch this game with a stick even if it was f2p.
how do you guys feel about Huttball? will you take your Jedi Master Sage or lvl 80 Inquisitor to play space football when theyre taking a break from seeing into the future, meditating, and toppling empires?
Life is tough for the Jedi boys. That's why I will roll a bounty hounter; while the Jedi boys meditate I will be enjoying women, drugs, alcohol and punk rock.
Anyway... huttball is supposed to be optional, isn't it?
Correct its just a battle ground, you dont have to que for it.
It is funny, how they try to develop this huge story with every character, and then have them play silly elementary school playground games with eachother for PvP.
I think they could come up with something a little more realistic. Like capture and hold maps, or sieging a location, or stealing data from somewhere, or at least something more believable. Fun, sure, but why throw all realism out the window when you don't have to? ESPECIALLY in a game like this ... where immersion is basically all it has.
It is funny, how they try to develop this huge story with every character, and then have them play silly elementary school playground games with eachother for PvP.
I think they could come up with something a little more realistic. Like capture and hold maps, or sieging a location, or stealing data from somewhere, or at least something more believable. Fun, sure, but why throw all realism out the window when you don't have to? ESPECIALLY in a game like this ... where immersion is basically all it has.
Where can I buy a lightsaber and use force powers? Just curious regarding this realism in Star Wars you speak of.
It is funny, how they try to develop this huge story with every character, and then have them play silly elementary school playground games with eachother for PvP.
I think they could come up with something a little more realistic. Like capture and hold maps, or sieging a location, or stealing data from somewhere, or at least something more believable. Fun, sure, but why throw all realism out the window when you don't have to? ESPECIALLY in a game like this ... where immersion is basically all it has.
They've come up with those things too, Huttball is just a minigame. You can take it or leave it.
It is funny, how they try to develop this huge story with every character, and then have them play silly elementary school playground games with eachother for PvP.
I think they could come up with something a little more realistic. Like capture and hold maps, or sieging a location, or stealing data from somewhere, or at least something more believable. Fun, sure, but why throw all realism out the window when you don't have to? ESPECIALLY in a game like this ... where immersion is basically all it has.
They have those types of BG's too, it's not like this is the only form of PVP in the game. Don't like it skip it....
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I find this thread offensive. Why? Because once again, we have some re...person flipping out about a feature of a game that they've not played yet.
If you find even the sight of this offensive, do us all a favor and simply stop posting here and don't buy the game.
I'm at the point where I just can't take these forums seriously anymore. All these complaints about a mini-game Designed to have some fun with, such an offensive thing. Such an immersion breaker etc.. Where in the hell are all of these complaints about everyone being Red or Blue in GW2 PVP, is that not unimmersive? It seems as though around here it's become a matter of side with whatever GW2 does, rail against whatever TOR does....
To SB fans, please stop making our demographic look bad.Stop invading threads that have nothing to do with sandboxes.
I find this thread offensive. Why? Because once again, we have some re...person flipping out about a feature of a game that they've not played yet.
If you find even the sight of this offensive, do us all a favor and simply stop posting here and don't buy the game.
I'm at the point where I just can't take these forums seriously anymore. All these complaints about a mini-game Designed to have some fun with, such an offensive thing. Such an immersion breaker etc.. Where in the hell are all of these complaints about everyone being Red or Blue in GW2 PVP, is that not unimmersive? It seems as though around here it's become a matter of side with whatever GW2 does, rail against whatever TOR does....
There are a lot of haters of TOR ranging from SWG and sandbox fans, to pvp fans (TOR is first and foremost a pve game imo, not to say that pvp is an afterthought, but rather it simply isn't a primary focus), to GW2 fans. The SWG fans still manage to hold onto their bitterness, sandbox fans I can sort of understand and yet don't understand their obsession with posting all the time in the forum of a game they don't like, and I really never have understood hardcore pvp fans, but the ones I understand the least is the GW2 fans. The two games aren't even really in competition with one another and yet they are determined to beat down on TOR as much as possible.
Yes I know I generalized a great deal in that post and yes I know all SWG, sandbox, pvp, and GW2 fans are not like that. It's just a small minority of each, but they seem determined to make as much fuss over it as possible. What's sad is that most of them have preordered, if I hated a game as much as they act like they hate TOR I wouldn't have anything to do with it...including posting in the games forum.
The thing with TOR is it's made from the ground up to be accessible and to appeal to a wide range of players and any type of hardcore player isn't going to like that much.
This thread has been an abomination. 455+ posts, where only a handful actually gave a damn about the OP while the rest complained about everything new under the sun. Excellent indeed.
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Why does it even have to be a game game? Why not something more in-character, like the Sith terrorizing a village for some Sith-like purpose, while the Jedi are sent in to stop them? Could coincedentally play a lot like a game, but with explanations for the rules and everything that fit in with the gameworld.
Then take Huttball, and make it some friendly game players can play with their own faction, back on a safe homeworld. That'd be a lot less lore-breaking, IMHO.
I know not everyone cares about lore, or roleplaying, or immersion - but at least the devs of a game usually do. What bugs me about this is that it just seems like even Bioware isn't taking thier own game seriously.
When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.
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There is no disagreement that they can pretty much do what they want as long as they have approval from LA. It's not about what they CAN do....it's about what makes sense for them to do...and what seems to fit in well with the overall experience they are going for here.
I mean if they really wanted to they could make the current Emperor wear only pink and have a white bunny named "Fluffy" as a pet. That would have alot of entertainment value as well....but I don't think it would really fit well with the rest of the game.
I mean when I saw the first prequel in the Theaters....it didn't really seem to fit well with the origional trilogy. However, I totaly got what they were going for. I said to myself... "Ok the whole point of this movie is as a marketing vehicle to sell action figures and other toys to children." At that point, Jar Jar and pretty much everything else in the movie made sense...and fit in with that theme.
Bioware with TOR seemed to be going for something quite a bit more serious...especialy with all thier talk about...Story and dramatic narritive, etc....and then "Huttball" ? It almost seems like the Developer who came up with had gotten drunk and just got done watching a Mel Brooks movie when he hit upon the idea.
Have you ever played other bioware games? Most of them have some pretty silly stuff in them even if the main theme is serious. They don't take themselves nor thier games THAT seriously. None of it has ever ruined immersion for me and this won't either.
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I think it really depends on how you look at the overall picture. There is a lot that the word story covers in TOR, which (by their words) entails many hours of gameplay. They have world PVP, they have typical FvF BG PVP. They have the raiding thing, they have end-game solo story content. Then they have a couple deviations, space shooter and huttball.
People act as though Huttball is some serious deviation from Star Wars lore, I for one really don't see it that way. If you bring up Jedi yeah sure it's really not an activity they'd be likely to partake in. However their tendancies shouldn't guide what content is added to the game. A smuggler could find himself in such a game, as well as a cocky BH. Maybe even a Trooper or IA. It's definitely something I could see a Hutt running.
As for the two factions being at the same place at the same time, and partaking in the same activities. This isn't all that lore breaking either, as it fits the way in which the Stars Wars galaxy has always been in the EU. It is a galaxy wide civil war afterall.
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Well it could be worse OP, they could turn it into the NFL probowl and make everyone wear red or blue.
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umm... wow, I got nothing.
between the "They included this I cannont wiat to not miss playing not this because that was not included. And they forgot what they did not included in the release of the future but should have been in closed pre-alpha."
Huttball. Gay marriage in game. No real spce combat yet/never/maybe... Maybe I just tired and grumpy this morning. That probably it. More coffee...
not sure where I was going.
I can't believe this topic is 40+ pages long.
- Huttball isn't mandatory.
- The notion that it doesn't fit in the SW setting is silly. Do you think the entire universe is devoid of 'fun' activities. I don't think so. Look at that silly speeder bike race thing. Are you telling me that they wouldn't have some other games that people play?
- The notion that it takes away from the seriousness of the SW setting. I say unto you that this is also false. Taking away the sillyness of the new movies with JAR JAR, and various other foolishness, lets go back to the hallowed original movies that some are citing as the seriousness of the topic. Does anyone remember Ewoks. If that isn't levity and silliness in an otherwise serious movie, I don't know what is.
- Huttball isn't mandatory.
- If it ruins your immersion, don't participate, don't watch, don't listen to anything doing with huttball. Too Easy... or I would think. This way your immersion isn't ruined.
- Another question, which goes to the seriousness of the setting. Would you take your level 843843 inquisitor to play huttball.. For me, sure, if I want. After a hard day of serious Jedi slaying, I may want to take a break and do something mindless. Play a game of huttball, then get back to slaying the rebels. Hell, I do that in with my games. I play an MMO for a couple of hours, then I go play something that I don't have to think to much. Maybe Tanks or some FPS game.
- Huttball isn't mandatory
I self identify as a monkey.
Yes I agree 100%. Two sides locked into a fresh galactic war should take up MMA instead.
how can you not like this game if you dont know how to lighten up and have fun its like foot ball with no rules. :P i think its awsome
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Comming from the 30 year old that enjoys spoung bob, Ill give you Jar jar, but pod racing isnt that bad, we had swoop racing in both kotor games. Hutt ball may pull away from the story line sure yoda wouldnt be out thier playing hutt ball in the SW cannon, but at the same time this is a game, and they wanted to add fun elemants to the game. If they did capture the flag as a battle ground where does yoda fit into that? They already gave us battle for alderan a capture the point PVP arena. Huttball looks enjoyable reminds me of Frag ball or what ever it was called back in Unreal Tourny. All battle grounds out thier in current games are either capture the flag or capture points, its nice to see a twist on that with passing the ball. throw in force leap and choak will make for an intresting game.
mmmm sith terrorizing a village, yeah well thats the bulk of the game, thats called the main plot.
now were talking about a pvp battle ground, they gave us battle for alderan, you defend poitns so you can use turbo lasors to shoot down the other sides ship.
To the poster that said what about some battle chess games? Yeah because im sure a sith lord is gonna come up to a jedi/smuggler/trooper and say hey buddie Clearly we need to settle this war over a chess game please come join me for some tea while we sit 3 feet from each other and not use any of our natural abilitys to determin the out come of the univers. And then at the end of it you get PVP gear for such a great game of chess...
I would be glad to see battle chess put into the game along with pazzak, and swoop racing. but these are not pvp battlegrounds, these are just games.
Look they gave us a pvp system so the people that are on PvE servers something to do during there down time, this PvP system will also be used to give PvP servers access to PvP gear. now they could just go with some stander CTF, and capture points. but instead of dong CTF, they choose to go with Hutt ball, where you have to score on the other team pass the ball and move slower with the ball in your hands, sure its not somehing you would expect to see, but if you dont want to pvp then done que up for it. no one says you have to. the game isnt gonna be just PVP huttball 24/7. this just gives us a new option in the BG department.
Life is tough for the Jedi boys. That's why I will roll a bounty hounter; while the Jedi boys meditate I will be enjoying women, drugs, alcohol and punk rock.
Anyway... huttball is supposed to be optional, isn't it?
huttball ?i think not
fun? is posible,but repetitive
Correct its just a battle ground, you dont have to que for it.
It is funny, how they try to develop this huge story with every character, and then have them play silly elementary school playground games with eachother for PvP.
I think they could come up with something a little more realistic. Like capture and hold maps, or sieging a location, or stealing data from somewhere, or at least something more believable. Fun, sure, but why throw all realism out the window when you don't have to? ESPECIALLY in a game like this ... where immersion is basically all it has.
Where can I buy a lightsaber and use force powers? Just curious regarding this realism in Star Wars you speak of.
They've come up with those things too, Huttball is just a minigame. You can take it or leave it.
They have those types of BG's too, it's not like this is the only form of PVP in the game. Don't like it skip it....
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I find this thread offensive. Why? Because once again, we have some re...person flipping out about a feature of a game that they've not played yet.
If you find even the sight of this offensive, do us all a favor and simply stop posting here and don't buy the game.
I'm at the point where I just can't take these forums seriously anymore. All these complaints about a mini-game Designed to have some fun with, such an offensive thing. Such an immersion breaker etc.. Where in the hell are all of these complaints about everyone being Red or Blue in GW2 PVP, is that not unimmersive? It seems as though around here it's become a matter of side with whatever GW2 does, rail against whatever TOR does....
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There are a lot of haters of TOR ranging from SWG and sandbox fans, to pvp fans (TOR is first and foremost a pve game imo, not to say that pvp is an afterthought, but rather it simply isn't a primary focus), to GW2 fans. The SWG fans still manage to hold onto their bitterness, sandbox fans I can sort of understand and yet don't understand their obsession with posting all the time in the forum of a game they don't like, and I really never have understood hardcore pvp fans, but the ones I understand the least is the GW2 fans. The two games aren't even really in competition with one another and yet they are determined to beat down on TOR as much as possible.
Yes I know I generalized a great deal in that post and yes I know all SWG, sandbox, pvp, and GW2 fans are not like that. It's just a small minority of each, but they seem determined to make as much fuss over it as possible. What's sad is that most of them have preordered, if I hated a game as much as they act like they hate TOR I wouldn't have anything to do with it...including posting in the games forum.
The thing with TOR is it's made from the ground up to be accessible and to appeal to a wide range of players and any type of hardcore player isn't going to like that much.
this thread has been excellent.
This thread has been an abomination. 455+ posts, where only a handful actually gave a damn about the OP while the rest complained about everything new under the sun. Excellent indeed.
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