Originally posted by Kilrain move on to something else, they'll get bored and quit or go to sleep at some point. I hope they don't care bear the game down before I buy it because of people complaining about things like this.
You haven't even bought the game and you're chiming in on the subject... My god.
Do me a favor, buy the game...level up to 35ish and head to one of the 3 zones these mobs spawn in. Spend 2 weeks camping the spawns with hundreds of other players like I did. Watch the rare mobs spawn and then Immediately get insta killed by said other players on several occasions. Then after the mobs are killed, enjoy the mass spamming of "WTS vampire bite, starting bid 30k" or something similar by the people that just killed the mobs. After you've done this, come back and tell me if you are having fun and enjoying your "hardcore" mmo experience.
Lol man thats awful. Yet you made me feel way better. Well today at the bank I started to log off the screen blinked and logged in to another toon and bank was empty. Logged back in to other toon and bank stuff all back. Just before this I got 4 new emails. Well all my gold (still low level) 6000 are gone and 10 extra slots gone all items but gold and slots all there.
Now lol the strange part I got all the CE stuff. 3 little pets, all the maps. So I told them and they were so very sorry and this is very known bug to them and they hope to have it patched by the next patch. That was it.
Its just ingame no big deal. So new pets new maps. I tried a map very nice. Got 5 items, 2 were blue rest green and this is lvl 5.
Sorry op. You see people for what they really are. What they are out side the game they are inside. Yes you should have got a GUILD to do this. My friend waited 3 dats (at launch) got bit lvl 7 now hes level 37. In the guild someone wanted a bite and just traded a very nice blue item (some book)
I remember the old days when souuch a act would been devastating for the reputation of the scammer.
Anyway i suggest you start to shout out the name and possible guild to be scammers, cheaters goat fuckers ,and whatever things help spread out the word hopefully it ends up that the guild and person will be affected with bad reputation. always work better to attack a guilds reputation then a singel individual
it happend to me sometimes and usally ends up with a appology from a guild officer and a kick out of the stupid ppl from the guild
i just love to hurt people emotionally that are ass holes and hopefully they learns that every action has a consequense !!
The energy people put into finding a way to ruin someone else's fun or scamming each other, even in a game where wealth and status are completely irrelevant because they are just pixels, never ceases to amaze me. I blame our modern society that rewards people that are greedy and selfish.
Can't we all just enjoy our free time and get along?
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Originally posted by Stewe79
Anyway i suggest you start to shout out the name and possible guild to be scammers, cheaters goat fuckers [...]
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PS: What exactly do you gain from becoming a vampire or werewolf?
If it was easy to get, then it wouldn't be fun to get.
If you don't want to work towards long term things, then this game probably isn't for you, since it's a longer term game than most modern MMOs.
You find fun waiting for 2 weeks for a f'in vampire bite?
Your life must be really dull if that's your idea of fun.
It's neither easy nor difficult to get the bite, it's just broken because other people are camping the point (if we are to believe OP). Mind you, you're right, "long term" indeed... Here is your ticket for the vampire bite, you are #326 in the queue - come back in 4 days and we will see if we can do something for you.
[quote]So, I paid some guy 15k to get bitten. I traded him the 15k and then in chat he said, "Now repeat after me...I am a moron" and then logged off.[/quote]
ZOS does not encourage this behaviour it is players like you OP.
If no one kept asking to buy bites with gold then these people would soon loose interest and leave the area. But when people give them 10k + to bite someone then the players themselves are propagating this type of abuse. As harsh as it sounds it is the truth.
There are alternatives to this and one would be to join a RP guild of vampires or werewolves as a mortal and RP the transformation to a monster. Or wait till they get bored and leave the game or area.
OP you are a moron for doing this. When I get to this point in the game I may even start this trick to earn some gold from idiots.
For your penance I command you to play Eve Online and learn how scammers trick people in MMO's. You will get no sympathy from me.
this may sound like old geezer talk but back in the days we had websites where we posted names of player conmen and once the word got ingame of these guys they had no other choice then rolling another char or quit the game because noone would trade with them anymore.
so yeah, those old days were realy cool......these days you can reroll a max lvl char in a matter of days......you wanted easy games....you got them
So there is currently a big issue, at least in my mind, with the vampire/werewolf system.
There are currently many guilds/role-players camping out the werewolf/vamp spawns and immediately killing the mobs so that nobody can acquire the skill lines. They do this to either simply grief players or to drive up the price on buying a "bite" from someone who is already a vampire or werewolf.
Because of this issue, I finally gave in and decided to buy a bite.
There's no way to avoid being scammed since the use of the skill isn't tied to the trading system. The "standard" is for the biter to get all of the gold up front because they hold all the power. If you don't want to give them the gold up front, there's an infinite amount of other customers who will.
So, I paid some guy 15k to get bitten. I traded him the 15k and then in chat he said, "Now repeat after me...I am a moron" and then logged off.
I'm not at all salty over 15k gold since it isn't very much. I understood that getting scammed was possible and I felt 15k wasn't enough to not go through with it. I just find it disheartening that ZOS would encourage such actions because of how they designed the vamp/were system. I of course reported this player immediately with a screenshot of the last bit of the conversation (that quote and then him leaving the party and logging off). This was 5 days ago and I have yet to hear a response from ZOS. I highly doubt anything will happen to this player and I highly doubt I'll get my 15k gold back.
How do you guys feel about the way vampire/werewolf works right now? I personally don't find the current system fun in any way. It isn't fun camping a spawn with 200 other people that you know are just going to screw you over. It's not fun risking your currency to buy a skill line from another player. And lastly, it isn't fun playing a game that has a community of scammers and griefers. Scamming and griefing is 100% acceptable in full-loot sandbox MMOs...but ESO certainly isn't one of those.
Thoughts?
First, I would say I doubt that roleplayers are really involved. On the teso-rp.com site they have a similar post to yours bemoaning this same issue with some stating they feel it should be against the rules, etc. So might not want to lump them in your accusations.
Second, you should probably make a post on a community site or somewhere to see if someone would do it for cheap or for free as someone offered in that thread I spoke of on the rp site to do as such. I'm sure others would as well. You'll always find griefers and sometimes scammers no matter what community you involve yourself. They are still a minority but it is annoying when they try to control a situation to their profit like this one. I would think ZOS would do something if more make them aware of this act.
This whole thread is halarious; Learned way back in the day in Asheron's Call (which didn't have safe trading initially) to never give anyone any money, unless they were a friend/guildmate
In light of this situation it would serve you better to design the perfect template for eradicating Cryodiil of vampires/werewolves. You could roleplay it to the hilt and form an over zealous gank squad of insomniacs who refuse to allow any undead on the lands of Cryodiil.
May as well get some payback and amusement out of your gameplay then squandering it over a desperate act which played you for a fool.
Originally posted by indef So there is currently a big issue, at least in my mind, with the vampire/werewolf system. There are currently many guilds/role-players camping out the werewolf/vamp spawns and immediately killing the mobs so that nobody can acquire the skill lines. They do this to either simply grief players or to drive up the price on buying a "bite" from someone who is already a vampire or werewolf. Because of this issue, I finally gave in and decided to buy a bite. There's no way to avoid being scammed since the use of the skill isn't tied to the trading system. The "standard" is for the biter to get all of the gold up front because they hold all the power. If you don't want to give them the gold up front, there's an infinite amount of other customers who will. So, I paid some guy 15k to get bitten. I traded him the 15k and then in chat he said, "Now repeat after me...I am a moron" and then logged off. I'm not at all salty over 15k gold since it isn't very much. I understood that getting scammed was possible and I felt 15k wasn't enough to not go through with it. I just find it disheartening that ZOS would encourage such actions because of how they designed the vamp/were system. I of course reported this player immediately with a screenshot of the last bit of the conversation (that quote and then him leaving the party and logging off). This was 5 days ago and I have yet to hear a response from ZOS. I highly doubt anything will happen to this player and I highly doubt I'll get my 15k gold back. How do you guys feel about the way vampire/werewolf works right now? I personally don't find the current system fun in any way. It isn't fun camping a spawn with 200 other people that you know are just going to screw you over. It's not fun risking your currency to buy a skill line from another player. And lastly, it isn't fun playing a game that has a community of scammers and griefers. Scamming and griefing is 100% acceptable in full-loot sandbox MMOs...but ESO certainly isn't one of those. Thoughts?
Need to go all True blood style, Kidnap a vamp and sell their blood.
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This kind of stuff makes me laugh, people allways try to say how much grief there is on pvp servers yet somthing like this would NEVER happen because you could just kill the guy. lol
With all the uprawr over the issues between the werewolfs and the vamps. I imagine they are just going to change the system so that its a static or roaming npc that can not be killed. Will do away with alot of the potential issues that the current system is causing. Just like with the whole public dungeon boss issue. People camping bosses for the loot. The new system will make it so you have to wait XX mins before you can get any loot from ANY public dungeon boss between each kill.
Leave it to a few people camping things ruining the fun of others to ruin a mechanic that would otherwise work if people would use the system as intented and not abuse it.
Sorry to hear about the player taking your money and logging off. Let the morons camp the werewolves and vampires but don't pay for being infected unless you can truly trust the person offerring their services. Personally while playing Skyrim I made it a point to not let my characters be turned & I will follow the same in ESO. I hope the reported vamp gets a few days banned for being the loser he is even though you should know better than to trust any undead filth.
Report this player who did this and ask Zenimax to make that person refund your gold. Paul Sage was asked if people could scam other people and get away with it, in a rather bold way. Paul Sage said they would persue these kind of issues, either he is a liar or your going to get your gold back by reporting it. Let us know what ZOS says after reporting it.
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You haven't even bought the game and you're chiming in on the subject... My god.
Do me a favor, buy the game...level up to 35ish and head to one of the 3 zones these mobs spawn in. Spend 2 weeks camping the spawns with hundreds of other players like I did. Watch the rare mobs spawn and then Immediately get insta killed by said other players on several occasions. Then after the mobs are killed, enjoy the mass spamming of "WTS vampire bite, starting bid 30k" or something similar by the people that just killed the mobs. After you've done this, come back and tell me if you are having fun and enjoying your "hardcore" mmo experience.
who would have thought that you cannot trust the undead
ps: best part, as soon they enter cyrodill and face some warrior's guild players. they will clean themselves quickker than you can say badonkadong.
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Lol man thats awful. Yet you made me feel way better. Well today at the bank I started to log off the screen blinked and logged in to another toon and bank was empty. Logged back in to other toon and bank stuff all back. Just before this I got 4 new emails. Well all my gold (still low level) 6000 are gone and 10 extra slots gone all items but gold and slots all there.
Now lol the strange part I got all the CE stuff. 3 little pets, all the maps. So I told them and they were so very sorry and this is very known bug to them and they hope to have it patched by the next patch. That was it.
Its just ingame no big deal. So new pets new maps. I tried a map very nice. Got 5 items, 2 were blue rest green and this is lvl 5.
Sorry op. You see people for what they really are. What they are out side the game they are inside. Yes you should have got a GUILD to do this. My friend waited 3 dats (at launch) got bit lvl 7 now hes level 37. In the guild someone wanted a bite and just traded a very nice blue item (some book)
I remember the old days when souuch a act would been devastating for the reputation of the scammer.
Anyway i suggest you start to shout out the name and possible guild to be scammers, cheaters goat fuckers ,and whatever things help spread out the word hopefully it ends up that the guild and person will be affected with bad reputation. always work better to attack a guilds reputation then a singel individual
it happend to me sometimes and usally ends up with a appology from a guild officer and a kick out of the stupid ppl from the guild
i just love to hurt people emotionally that are ass holes and hopefully they learns that every action has a consequense !!
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The energy people put into finding a way to ruin someone else's fun or scamming each other, even in a game where wealth and status are completely irrelevant because they are just pixels, never ceases to amaze me. I blame our modern society that rewards people that are greedy and selfish.
Can't we all just enjoy our free time and get along?
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PS: What exactly do you gain from becoming a vampire or werewolf?
You find fun waiting for 2 weeks for a f'in vampire bite?
Your life must be really dull if that's your idea of fun.
It's neither easy nor difficult to get the bite, it's just broken because other people are camping the point (if we are to believe OP). Mind you, you're right, "long term" indeed... Here is your ticket for the vampire bite, you are #326 in the queue - come back in 4 days and we will see if we can do something for you.
[quote]So, I paid some guy 15k to get bitten. I traded him the 15k and then in chat he said, "Now repeat after me...I am a moron" and then logged off.[/quote]
ZOS does not encourage this behaviour it is players like you OP.
If no one kept asking to buy bites with gold then these people would soon loose interest and leave the area. But when people give them 10k + to bite someone then the players themselves are propagating this type of abuse. As harsh as it sounds it is the truth.
There are alternatives to this and one would be to join a RP guild of vampires or werewolves as a mortal and RP the transformation to a monster. Or wait till they get bored and leave the game or area.
OP you are a moron for doing this. When I get to this point in the game I may even start this trick to earn some gold from idiots.
For your penance I command you to play Eve Online and learn how scammers trick people in MMO's. You will get no sympathy from me.
I lol'd
true true
haha
this may sound like old geezer talk but back in the days we had websites where we posted names of player conmen and once the word got ingame of these guys they had no other choice then rolling another char or quit the game because noone would trade with them anymore.
so yeah, those old days were realy cool......these days you can reroll a max lvl char in a matter of days......you wanted easy games....you got them
kinda funny realy tbh hehe
First, I would say I doubt that roleplayers are really involved. On the teso-rp.com site they have a similar post to yours bemoaning this same issue with some stating they feel it should be against the rules, etc. So might not want to lump them in your accusations.
Second, you should probably make a post on a community site or somewhere to see if someone would do it for cheap or for free as someone offered in that thread I spoke of on the rp site to do as such. I'm sure others would as well. You'll always find griefers and sometimes scammers no matter what community you involve yourself. They are still a minority but it is annoying when they try to control a situation to their profit like this one. I would think ZOS would do something if more make them aware of this act.
This whole thread is halarious; Learned way back in the day in Asheron's Call (which didn't have safe trading initially) to never give anyone any money, unless they were a friend/guildmate
In light of this situation it would serve you better to design the perfect template for eradicating Cryodiil of vampires/werewolves. You could roleplay it to the hilt and form an over zealous gank squad of insomniacs who refuse to allow any undead on the lands of Cryodiil.
May as well get some payback and amusement out of your gameplay then squandering it over a desperate act which played you for a fool.
Need to go all True blood style, Kidnap a vamp and sell their blood.
TSW - AoC - Aion - WOW - EVE - Fallen Earth - Co - Rift - || XNA C# Java Development
For 50k
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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Indef this sucks take a break if the game is frustrating you.
Coming to forums for help is starting to be a lost art too many trolls.
I'm absolutely baffled that the OP would admit to having this happen to him.
LOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOOOKOOLOLOKOIKIOLKOILOL
What seems wrong here is not the stolen 15kg, but the fact that a game mechanic can be blocked in a non-pvp area.
Never spend too much energy telling people they are acting like kids because you never know, maybe they are kids.
With all the uprawr over the issues between the werewolfs and the vamps. I imagine they are just going to change the system so that its a static or roaming npc that can not be killed. Will do away with alot of the potential issues that the current system is causing. Just like with the whole public dungeon boss issue. People camping bosses for the loot. The new system will make it so you have to wait XX mins before you can get any loot from ANY public dungeon boss between each kill.
Leave it to a few people camping things ruining the fun of others to ruin a mechanic that would otherwise work if people would use the system as intented and not abuse it.
Report this player who did this and ask Zenimax to make that person refund your gold. Paul Sage was asked if people could scam other people and get away with it, in a rather bold way. Paul Sage said they would persue these kind of issues, either he is a liar or your going to get your gold back by reporting it. Let us know what ZOS says after reporting it.
Wow, sorry I'm so late in this string. Been busy. Work, playing, etc....
Just wanted to say though.....oh my....LOL!