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Star Citizen Employees Speak Out on Project Woes!

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  • BluddwolfBluddwolf Member UncommonPosts: 355
    I'm so thankful I only put like $35 - 50 to this vaporware.  

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  • MrSnufflesMrSnuffles Member UncommonPosts: 1,117
     It's all about Derek Smart. Everyone has to chime in how much they hate him and make childish jokes.

    This is mass hysteria because one man said something bad about a computer game. Let that sink in for a minute. Someone badmouths a computer game and his developer and all the sheep start to bleak the same nonsense over and over. 

    Deeeeeeeeeereeeeeeeeeeeeeeek Smaaaahaahhahahhahaart!

    Tell me Mr. Snuffles where you get all your information from if NOT from Derek Smart? The article by the Escapist is almost Verbatim Smart.
    Second tell me how you know these anonymous witnesses are real? have they come forward and testified in anything resembling a court of law about financial mismanagement? So far all I have seen them talk about is how they hate Sandi Gardiner and Chris Roberts but they don't seem to be accounting people at all Snuffles.

    I want Solid Identifiable fact. 
    So show me Solid identifiable fact that you have Mr. Snuffles. Not rumor Innuendo or anonymous sources. Factual documentation of any of this. So far everything has been about Derek Smart allegations. I want more information that YOU have.

    Show me.

    Cheers,
    Ravensworth

    OK, notice the hilarity answering my post about irrational behavior always blaming Derek Smart and you answer by accusing me i get some sort of information from Derek Smart.

    Okay let's answer the first part of this. Chris Roberts is NOT my developer. I think if you asked around you would find that I have been very critical of Star Citizen not reaching it's Goals and Chris Roberts making promises he didn't keep with regard to the FPS module. I am Not a backer of the game.

    So the irrational behavior seems to be following the alleged evidence of the Escapist magazine. So far they have not answered CIG's letter or shown to the journalist press any of their evidence.

    You accuse people of Cult like behavior. I think that can be said of both camps and since I reside in neither I don't think I qualify.

    Quote for you again
    Mr. Snuffles
    "  The issue i see is merging all of them together because i am pretty sure there is no PC that would be able to run such a game effectively. Single player probably with high end systems, multiplayer however, pretty sure it's a problem."

    Are you a Programmer or game designer. What sort of expertise do your bring to this topic other than being an end game user?

    I am asking these thing because I am trying to point out the futility of the "Average Joe" trying to report facts instead of opinion. though to be fair you used the words "pretty sure" so maybe that was just more troll  bait.



    You did not answer my questions and quoted only a sentence of my reply. I take that as you have no real reply or arguments but instead chose to try and steer the conversation towards me:

    1. I never said Chris Roberts is your developer.
    2. The Escapist has answered the CIG letter by saying: "We do not apologize and we will write more articles like this. We also have more sources. Come and sue us CIG!"
    3. You tried to associate me with Derek Smart by saying i must have information coming from him.
    4. Do we really go there now? What qualification do you have to judge my qualification? This is a discussion that is going nowhere because even if i told you i worked as a C++ specialist and on game engines for over 20 years and i have a masters in BA and CS you would say i made it up. It's a strawman argument we both know it.

    Nice try but i will not engage in such a discussion. This conversation is over.
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    "It's pretty simple, really. If your only intention in posting about a particular game or topic is to be negative, then yes, you should probably move on. Voicing a negative opinion is fine, continually doing so on the same game is basically just trolling."
    - Michael Bitton
    Community Manager, MMORPG.com

    "As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" - MrSnuffles's law

    "I am jumping in here a bit without knowing exactly what you all or talking about." 
    - SEANMCAD

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  • SmartySmartSmartySmart Member UncommonPosts: 312
    edited October 2015
    MrSnuffles said:

    Nice try but i will not engage in such a discussion. This conversation is over.
    This is the answer of someone who has no more arguments and feels pushed into a corner. If you would have any merit you would not act that way.

    Welcome to psychology (also called pseudo science by those who fear it). 
  • BrenicsBrenics Member RarePosts: 1,939
    Brenics said:
    Brenics said:
    Brenics said:
    @salaciouscrumbs ; Ohj I get it innocent before guilty, but you guys don't even want the questions asked, or anyone to look into it. It is like you are scared your leader may actually be guilty.
    You're not asking questions. You're making assertions and not backing them up. You had some crazy psycho-babble post earlier that communicated 4 "proofs" that Star Citizen is a scam/failure which I debunked in 2 seconds and you conveniently didn't responsd. Rofl.

    You're just the same type of person as those who are "sure" the game will be the best, end-all of games. But on the opposite side of the spectrum. The anti-intellectual runs strong with you, Brenics. Ironic to the max.
    I respect your opinion and that is exactly what you have. Same with me, I see proof, you don't.  
    You can't "see proof". There either is proof or there isn't. You need to look up the definition of "proof" and "evidence".

    I respect your opinion too, Brenics. But you're not just sharing your opinion. You're making dogmatic statements and justifying them with crazy, faith-based rational.

    Sorry bro, don't think anyone's buying it. Don't try to make nice with people here by making false equivalencies. Our positions are not the same.

    I don't fully know what Star Citizen is or will turn out to be.

    You claim to know the answers to everything.

    That's how we're different.


    LOL OK you say so. I do know one thing, after all I read and seen Roberts is not someone I would trust with my money. In time we will see who is right.
    That's a pretty reasonable statement. I don't completely agree, but I like that it's clearly your opinion and not some nonsense passed off as fact.

    Cheers bud.
    The one FACT I do know the Escapist wrote a good article and CR hasn't done one thing to counter it other than a letter sounding like a mad man who was pissed. The fact he hasn't done anything to show the story is false makes it all true. Or do you see it different? 

    I was shocked he didn't bring it up at Citizencon, maybe that was why his wife and him seemed a little off today. :-D
    I'm not perfect but I'm always myself!

    Star Citizen – The Extinction Level Event


    4/13/15 > ELE has been updated look for 16-04-13.

    http://www.dereksmart.org/2016/04/star-citizen-the-ele/

    Enjoy and know the truth always comes to light!

  • MrSnufflesMrSnuffles Member UncommonPosts: 1,117

    Gone six hours at a fundraiser, drinking too much IPA and gorging myself on pork products.  So, what did I miss?  Did the CIG detractors get any proof to backup their accusations or is it still their intuition plus anonymous sources from the Escapist?
    Nope. Sandi did a great job with her speech and i am really impressed with how she expertly weaved in the accusations, great acting and re-enforcement of the church of StarCitizen movement by proclaiming that it is much more than just a game, it's a religion (she did not say that but it was very close). You need to watch it. It was beautiful. I am dead serious, that was some of the most impressive counter marketing i have seen in a long time!

    Chris Roberts also weaved in some jabs at the accusations when talking about employee numbers among other things. I just can't listen to the guy for long, his nasal high pitched voice just gives me the creeps so i turned him down for most of the time.

    The preview of the Alpha 2.0 (no timeline not even "this year" or "next year") was very good. It looks like that if anything the whole controversy has pushed them towards releasing a game now and building on it. It was quite impressive for the early stages this must be in. Of cause the frame rates where horrible and the network syncing problems quite obvious at times but this is to be expected. Animations still need a lot of work and they need to get rid of the annoying head bobbing.

    The Squadron 42 Demo was boring. I was never a fan of the long winded cut-scene, play a movie, type games. It looked nice and all but not my type of game.

    Overall i thought it was a very successful presentation. You have to watch it.
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    "It's pretty simple, really. If your only intention in posting about a particular game or topic is to be negative, then yes, you should probably move on. Voicing a negative opinion is fine, continually doing so on the same game is basically just trolling."
    - Michael Bitton
    Community Manager, MMORPG.com

    "As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" - MrSnuffles's law

    "I am jumping in here a bit without knowing exactly what you all or talking about." 
    - SEANMCAD

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  • MrSnufflesMrSnuffles Member UncommonPosts: 1,117
    MrSnuffles said:
    You did not answer my questions and quoted only a sentence of my reply. I take that as you have no real reply or arguments but instead chose to try and steer the conversation towards me:

    1. I never said Chris Roberts is your developer.
    2. The Escapist has answered the CIG letter by saying: "We do not apologize and we will write more articles like this. We also have more sources. Come and sue us CIG!"
    3. You tried to associate me with Derek Smart by saying i must have information coming from him.
    4. Do we really go there now? What qualification do you have to judge my qualification? This is a discussion that is going nowhere because even if i told you i worked as a C++ specialist and on game engines for over 20 years and i have a masters in BA and CS you would say i made it up. It's a strawman argument we both know it.
    Nice try but i will not engage in such a discussion. This conversation is over.
    This is the answer of someone who has no more arguments and feels pushed into a corner. If you would have any merit you would not act that way.

    Welcome to psychology (also called pseudo science by those who fear it). 
    Again, i gave you arguments and addressed all your points. You, for a second time did only quote one sentence and not reply to any of my arguments. So by definition this is not a discussion any way.

    Have fun!
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    "It's pretty simple, really. If your only intention in posting about a particular game or topic is to be negative, then yes, you should probably move on. Voicing a negative opinion is fine, continually doing so on the same game is basically just trolling."
    - Michael Bitton
    Community Manager, MMORPG.com

    "As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" - MrSnuffles's law

    "I am jumping in here a bit without knowing exactly what you all or talking about." 
    - SEANMCAD

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  • Saxx0nSaxx0n PR/Brand Manager BitBox Ltd.Member UncommonPosts: 999
    This crusade against SC is starting to venture into the realm of creepy.
  • MrSnufflesMrSnuffles Member UncommonPosts: 1,117

    These Escapist sources are the same ones who are accusing CIG of discriminatory hiring practices.  I'm assuming you've watched the Star Citizen youtube videos which show both Black employees and those over the age of 40?  What reputation is the Escapist risking at this point?  I think a lot of people already know their journalism is dog shit.  Which other major gaming site is publicizing the view point of these awesome "sources" right now?  I'd like to see a reputable site putting their balls on the chopping block over this before I consider taking it seriously.
    I think we have talked about this already. Just because you did something is not an argument that you do it again. It simply is not. That is like saying you don't have to proof you filed your taxes just because you did the last 10 years. Is it reasonable to assume that you would do it again? Yes, but it's not a fact.

    I won't go into the mud slinging against The Escapist because they are as shitty as any gaming press. They are all not real journalists and they are all feeding on the tit of the industry that pays them.

    What is a reputable site for you. Give me an example.
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    "It's pretty simple, really. If your only intention in posting about a particular game or topic is to be negative, then yes, you should probably move on. Voicing a negative opinion is fine, continually doing so on the same game is basically just trolling."
    - Michael Bitton
    Community Manager, MMORPG.com

    "As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" - MrSnuffles's law

    "I am jumping in here a bit without knowing exactly what you all or talking about." 
    - SEANMCAD

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  • Axllow18Axllow18 Member UncommonPosts: 400
    Saxx0n said:
    This crusade against SC is starting to venture into the realm of creepy.
    It has certainly become a bit more than "honest skepticism" for some, I will grant you that.
  • BrenicsBrenics Member RarePosts: 1,939
    Saxx0n said:
    This crusade against SC is starting to venture into the realm of creepy.
    It's unreal.  I've never seen so many people committed to tearing down a game from an independent studio.

    I don't care what your beef is with Chris Roberts.  Think about what you're doing.  We're all better off if the game is a success.  We're all losers if the game fails.
    WOW now you sound like you are begging for everyone to take CR's side. Stop that. :-D
    I'm not perfect but I'm always myself!

    Star Citizen – The Extinction Level Event


    4/13/15 > ELE has been updated look for 16-04-13.

    http://www.dereksmart.org/2016/04/star-citizen-the-ele/

    Enjoy and know the truth always comes to light!

  • rodarinrodarin Member EpicPosts: 2,611
    So funny watching people who were conned for years out of who knows how much money start getting bombarded with stuff that can be at least semi verified and in some cases totally verified trying to come to grips with getting conned. The thing these people dont under stand is that that is why they are perfect marks even after a guy is convicted of conning them (al long way from happening here) they still dont think they themselves were conned just other people who did the exact same thing they did.

    Thats why cons work because it is easy to con someone but IMPOSSIBLE to convince someone they got conned.

    Thats why I dont even bother talking about SC anymore I knew it was a scam from jump street. But everything I said the last time I went on a tirade about it has been prove to be completely true and before its over about 99% of what I said about the whole situation will be shown to be accurate.

    I have never been the guys who says hate to say I told you so because I revel in it. Because the world is full of way too many stupid people and for that reason alone shit like this will continue to take place.
  • MrSnufflesMrSnuffles Member UncommonPosts: 1,117
    Saxx0n said:
    This crusade against SC is starting to venture into the realm of creepy.
    It's unreal.  I've never seen so many people committed to tearing down a game from an independent studio.

    I don't care what your beef is with Chris Roberts.  Think about what you're doing.  We're all better off if the game is a success.  We're all losers if the game fails.
    I wonder where those people are you are talking about. I don't see anyone in this thread trying to tear down a game from an independent studio. This whole discussion is about blind believe and reality.

    • One side believes that it's all lies and a conspiracy against their game initiated by the Devil (Derek Smart)
    • The other side believes there is reason to doubt and that the scientific method is more accurate than faith.

    I am a backer myself and i rather have any misconduct discovered right now and action being taken to salvage the game before it is too late. I want this game to be finished as much as the next person but i do not blindly follow.
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    "It's pretty simple, really. If your only intention in posting about a particular game or topic is to be negative, then yes, you should probably move on. Voicing a negative opinion is fine, continually doing so on the same game is basically just trolling."
    - Michael Bitton
    Community Manager, MMORPG.com

    "As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" - MrSnuffles's law

    "I am jumping in here a bit without knowing exactly what you all or talking about." 
    - SEANMCAD

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  • user547user547 Member UncommonPosts: 150
    One side initiated a campaign of naysaying against something a lot of people were excited about.  It's unclear how many people are involved in this, but it's obviously not as large a group as the 1 million people who are vested in the outcome.  This side is not vested in the outcome, they simply like throwing wet blankets on other people's enjoyment.

    The people who felt targeted by the hateful trolls responded as they became aware of the negativity.  They are a "side" only in that they need to get together to put an end to what they perceive as an attack on them.  They aren't nearly as cohesive a group as the attackers.

    Then there are other people who are not on these "sides", as the attackers wish to frame everything.  There are many more people who are sick of seeing  trolls and negative nonsense carried out simply for the shadenfreude of seeing other people's hopes and dreams dashed to pieces.  This is why the air of creepiness is rising about the attackers- people are sensing the internalized hatred that the haters have.

    Then there's Derek Smart who wants to take charge of the attackers, the negative nellies, and who thinks he can Derek Smart his way into control of someone else's achievements again.  This isn't going to happen.  But  what he did contribute was the absolute disgusting display of defamation which was then picked up by the Star Citizen haters. 

    He carried on with the Escapist, a website where a bunch of people post their opinions about things.  This site styles its content as journalism, while displaying not a scintilla of journalistic integrity.  Instead, they create their own little ClickGate and publish scurrilous accusations of criminal behavior sans evidence or even credible witnesses, and then "stand by" their so called article.

    That's what has happened so far.
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  • SmartySmartSmartySmart Member UncommonPosts: 312
    To get this Derek thing out of the way I suggest you watch this video... in its full length and then tell me what you saw in an objective way. I keep my opinion for myself at this point. 



    Back to to the important things. Once again... criticism is good and needed to keep things in line IF done in an appropriate, logical and profound way. 

    You anti people are somehow emotionally attached to something you do not like. What would be better for you? Ignore what you do not like and concentrate on the things in your life that you like and make you happy.

    It is important to say like and happy in one sentence. Because if you like to see evil around every corner than this will not make you happy. And I for myself are not in this world to not be happy. That's the purpose of life next to passing my genes onto the next generation.

    And saying "I want my answers now" is immature. I want the game now... can I have it? No it's not ready yet. Are we there yet? I want an ice! Why aren't we there yet Dad? 

    If if you are mature then you might life in constant fear of loosing something even if it is not an important part of your life. 

    Psychology is a bitch ;) 
  • fyerwallfyerwall Member UncommonPosts: 3,240
    To get this Derek thing out of the way I suggest you watch this video... in its full length and then tell me what you saw in an objective way. I keep my opinion for myself at this point. 



    Back to to the important things. Once again... criticism is good and needed to keep things in line IF done in an appropriate, logical and profound way. 

    You anti people are somehow emotionally attached to something you do not like. What would be better for you? Ignore what you do not like and concentrate on the things in your life that you like and make you happy.

    It is important to say like and happy in one sentence. Because if you like to see evil around every corner than this will not make you happy. And I for myself are not in this world to not be happy. That's the purpose of life next to passing my genes onto the next generation.

    And saying "I want my answers now" is immature. I want the game now... can I have it? No it's not ready yet. Are we there yet? I want an ice! Why aren't we there yet Dad? 

    If if you are mature then you might life in constant fear of loosing something even if it is not an important part of your life. 

    Psychology is a bitch ;) 
    I watched the last 5 minutes earlier today and saw the same old Mr. Smart I've known for a long time.  Half-truths, denial, lying; no accountability for his own actions.  He counts on everyone's ignorance as a corner stone to every argument he presents.  If he invested half as much energy into his own games as he does trying to fuck with other people he might actually produce something that people want to play.  But no.  He bans everyone who offers him valid criticism on his own games then directs his energy to ruining other people's work. 

    He's like a piece of dog shit that you can't clean off the bottom of your shoe.  Just when you think you've removed the mess, you take a sniff and realize there's still something shitty clinging to your sole.
    I loved the part about "How is keeping LOD in AE indefinitely any different than SC increasing the scope...?"
    "LOD is a complete vision, a complete game - nothing is missing..." yet he admits no aircraft yet, effects (explosions, etc) in LOD 20 minutes earlier in the same video.

    It's amazing how he doesn't see himself digging himself into a deeper whole the more he tries to explain the difference between releasing an unfinished game through AE and SC doing crowdfunding.

    There are 3 types of people in the world.
    1.) Those who make things happen
    2.) Those who watch things happen
    3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"


  • BMBenderBMBender Member UncommonPosts: 827
    edited October 2015
    Gone six hours at a fundraiser, drinking too much IPA and gorging myself on pork products.  So, what did I miss?  Did the CIG detractors get any proof to backup their accusations or is it still their intuition plus anonymous sources from the Escapist?
    20ish minutes of anything related to gameplay in a 2ish hr  video.  Everyone got red meat, and are in their corners.

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  • MrSnufflesMrSnuffles Member UncommonPosts: 1,117
    Saxx0n said:
    This crusade against SC is starting to venture into the realm of creepy.
    It's unreal.  I've never seen so many people committed to tearing down a game from an independent studio.

    I don't care what your beef is with Chris Roberts.  Think about what you're doing.  We're all better off if the game is a success.  We're all losers if the game fails.
    I wonder where those people are you are talking about. I don't see anyone in this thread trying to tear down a game from an independent studio. This whole discussion is about blind believe and reality.

    • One side believes that it's all lies and a conspiracy against their game initiated by the Devil (Derek Smart)
    • The other side believes there is reason to doubt and that the scientific method is more accurate than faith.

    I am a backer myself and i rather have any misconduct discovered right now and action being taken to salvage the game before it is too late. I want this game to be finished as much as the next person but i do not blindly follow.
    Or maybe the backers have no real idea what's going on beyond what CIG shows them on a regular basis?  And maybe that's prudent?  Maybe the game just isn't finished yet, right?

    But let's take action!!!!

    This isn't Iran developing a nuclear weapon.  They're making a video game.
    The game is clearly not finished and no one is calling for action until there is proof. Right now there are accusations and we are waiting for CIG to either fight these in court or proof they are wrong.

    I rather have any misconduct discovered right now and action being taken to salvage the game before it is too late. Don't you agree?

    What does this all have to do with Iran?

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    "It's pretty simple, really. If your only intention in posting about a particular game or topic is to be negative, then yes, you should probably move on. Voicing a negative opinion is fine, continually doing so on the same game is basically just trolling."
    - Michael Bitton
    Community Manager, MMORPG.com

    "As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" - MrSnuffles's law

    "I am jumping in here a bit without knowing exactly what you all or talking about." 
    - SEANMCAD

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  • ChtugaChtuga Member UncommonPosts: 116
    From the livestream it is clear to me that Star Citizen is going exactly where I want it. This is what I funded, and I am getting something well worth the donations I have given!

    The game looks to become amazing, and as I see it the delays are justified when I see how they have upgraded, polished and enhanced upon what we have seen previously.

    If you are a backer, see you in the verse!
  • GhavriggGhavrigg Member RarePosts: 1,308
    Since I am only really informed about Derek Smart and his special quest, I can at least say Chris Roberts has described him and his actions accurately. Chris Roberts seems perfectly reasonable in his attempt to refute the allegations. That being said, everyone could be lying for all we know, so screw it. I call shenanigans on everyone!
  • ThaneThane Member EpicPosts: 3,534
    so, this article is about an ex employee, but he doesn't want us to know his name?
    yea, whatever.

    "I'll never grow up, never grow up, never grow up! Not me!"

  • BrenicsBrenics Member RarePosts: 1,939
    Thane said:
    so, this article is about an ex employee, but he doesn't want us to know his name?
    yea, whatever.
    Well more than one, but yeah. These people are content to hide in the shadows and throw dirt at their either current or previous employer because they are too chickenshit to face the chance of facing repercussions for whistle blowing. Which sounds understandable at first until you realize these same self serving pricks don't care if their little bitch fest harms a few hundred employees of the same company they're mad at.
    Interesting someone calling people chickenshit for not exposing who they are so it ruins their livelihood for rest of their life hiding behind a nick on the forums so he can call people chickenshit.

    I really do find that amazing. :-D 
    I'm not perfect but I'm always myself!

    Star Citizen – The Extinction Level Event


    4/13/15 > ELE has been updated look for 16-04-13.

    http://www.dereksmart.org/2016/04/star-citizen-the-ele/

    Enjoy and know the truth always comes to light!

  • BrenicsBrenics Member RarePosts: 1,939
    Brenics said:
    Thane said:
    so, this article is about an ex employee, but he doesn't want us to know his name?
    yea, whatever.
    Well more than one, but yeah. These people are content to hide in the shadows and throw dirt at their either current or previous employer because they are too chickenshit to face the chance of facing repercussions for whistle blowing. Which sounds understandable at first until you realize these same self serving pricks don't care if their little bitch fest harms a few hundred employees of the same company they're mad at.
    Interesting someone calling people chickenshit for not exposing who they are so it ruins their livelihood for rest of their life hiding behind a nick on the forums so he can call people chickenshit.

    I really do find that amazing. :-D 
    LoL lovely strawman argument you've got there since you've been here calling Chris Roberts a conman and a crook in the exact same manner. Stop trying to deflect the issue when you can't give a logical rebuttal. The only way I could be hypocritical in this issue is if I anonymously leaked the names of these people to the public.
    Big difference, CR has made it this way. Let's agree on one thing, if Roberts would file a lawsuit again DS and the Escapist (or even just one of them) then we can safely agree he has nothing to hide. If he doesn't then something must be fishy about the whole thing. 

    Deal?
    I'm not perfect but I'm always myself!

    Star Citizen – The Extinction Level Event


    4/13/15 > ELE has been updated look for 16-04-13.

    http://www.dereksmart.org/2016/04/star-citizen-the-ele/

    Enjoy and know the truth always comes to light!

  • BrenicsBrenics Member RarePosts: 1,939
    edited October 2015
    Brenics said:
    Brenics said:
    Thane said:
    so, this article is about an ex employee, but he doesn't want us to know his name?
    yea, whatever.
    Well more than one, but yeah. These people are content to hide in the shadows and throw dirt at their either current or previous employer because they are too chickenshit to face the chance of facing repercussions for whistle blowing. Which sounds understandable at first until you realize these same self serving pricks don't care if their little bitch fest harms a few hundred employees of the same company they're mad at.
    Interesting someone calling people chickenshit for not exposing who they are so it ruins their livelihood for rest of their life hiding behind a nick on the forums so he can call people chickenshit.

    I really do find that amazing. :-D 
    LoL lovely strawman argument you've got there since you've been here calling Chris Roberts a conman and a crook in the exact same manner. Stop trying to deflect the issue when you can't give a logical rebuttal. The only way I could be hypocritical in this issue is if I anonymously leaked the names of these people to the public.
    Big difference, CR has made it this way. Let's agree on one thing, if Roberts would file a lawsuit again DS and the Escapist (or even just one of them) then we can safely agree he has nothing to hide. If he doesn't then something must be fishy about the whole thing. 

    Deal?
    On the flip side if he does file a lawsuit against them you're going to be right here crying bullying tactics, and declaring this is the golden proof he has something to hide. And you know it. Again deflecting the issue because you have no actual evidence to back up your insinuations.


    LOL typical, actually that is exactly what you fanboy's have been doing. I know for a fact if he did file it would shock me and make me rethink the whole thing. Just by your post it makes me understand the thinking of people that spend cash like they are on some 50 dollar game. :=D

    That isn't even made yet!
    I'm not perfect but I'm always myself!

    Star Citizen – The Extinction Level Event


    4/13/15 > ELE has been updated look for 16-04-13.

    http://www.dereksmart.org/2016/04/star-citizen-the-ele/

    Enjoy and know the truth always comes to light!

  • RealizerRealizer Member RarePosts: 724
    To get this Derek thing out of the way I suggest you watch this video... in its full length and then tell me what you saw in an objective way. I keep my opinion for myself at this point. 



    Back to to the important things. Once again... criticism is good and needed to keep things in line IF done in an appropriate, logical and profound way. 

    You anti people are somehow emotionally attached to something you do not like. What would be better for you? Ignore what you do not like and concentrate on the things in your life that you like and make you happy.

    It is important to say like and happy in one sentence. Because if you like to see evil around every corner than this will not make you happy. And I for myself are not in this world to not be happy. That's the purpose of life next to passing my genes onto the next generation.

    And saying "I want my answers now" is immature. I want the game now... can I have it? No it's not ready yet. Are we there yet? I want an ice! Why aren't we there yet Dad? 

    If if you are mature then you might life in constant fear of loosing something even if it is not an important part of your life. 

    Psychology is a bitch ;) 
    Haha this video was removed by user during the middle of me watching it. He must have known I was there. 
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