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Camelot Unchained Posts Progress Update, Tech Improvements and Plenty of Art | MMORPG.com

SystemSystem Member UncommonPosts: 12,599
edited April 2022 in News & Features Discussion

imageCamelot Unchained Posts Progress Update, Tech Improvements and Plenty of Art | MMORPG.com

After skipping a full update in March, Senior Producer Terry Coleman pieced together what the team has been working on over the past month for Camelot Unchained. The long news post details a lot of the progress the team has made on their backend technology in March, but as always, a Camelot Unchained post wouldn't be complete without a heft dose of concept art!

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  • goldboyy45goldboyy45 Member UncommonPosts: 308
    This scam is still active? shame on anyone monetarily supporting and contributing to this bait and switch project, let it die.
    Viper482user298enesisxlr8[Deleted User]AlomarSarla
  • bgzgamerbgzgamer Member UncommonPosts: 127
    "tech updates" for 4 years.
    Viper482Mouloxtos85
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    edited April 2022
    Most people count development since the KS in April or in October later the same year, 2013 so actually coming up on "only" 9 years really, but who's counting?

    What is amazing is they could take so long to deliver so very little, yet still keep the doors open.

    Guess it helps that their investor group was led by family.

    Lest we forget, the refund backlog is well over two years now, despite Mark's claim he is still paying them.


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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,593
    Most of these companies that show "art updates" are trying to sell you on buying that art...

    It's weird that they spend so much energy highlighting art but don't try and sell the jpegs to you.
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  • RandomCasualtyRandomCasualty Member UncommonPosts: 330
    I'm a backer and just waiting to see "We sold the engine". Then I'll wait another 10 years while someone makes a playable game with this engine
    maskedweaseluser298Viper482ScotAlomarharken33
  • nursonurso Member UncommonPosts: 327
    Slapshot1188 said:
    It's weird that they spend so much energy highlighting art but don't try and sell the jpegs to you.
    Isn't this a good thing?
    ScotAlomarharken33Ungood
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,593
    nurso said:
    Slapshot1188 said:
    It's weird that they spend so much energy highlighting art but don't try and sell the jpegs to you.
    Isn't this a good thing?
    10 years ago I would have screamed YES!
    5 years ago I would have said YES!
    Nowadays?  I just wonder if there would have been a game to play if Mark had actually sold stuff and raised money…. Then again, it could just as easily be like Ashes or SC with never ending sales but still no released game…

    So… I guess… I don’t know if it’s a good or bad thing .
    nursomaskedweaselMallyxAlomar

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    Slapshot1188 said:
    nurso said:
    Slapshot1188 said:
    It's weird that they spend so much energy highlighting art but don't try and sell the jpegs to you.
    Isn't this a good thing?
    10 years ago I would have screamed YES!
    5 years ago I would have said YES!
    Nowadays?  I just wonder if there would have been a game to play if Mark had actually sold stuff and raised money…. Then again, it could just as easily be like Ashes or SC with never ending sales but still no released game…

    So… I guess… I don’t know if it’s a good or bad thing .
    I'm convinced Mark and team lack the talent to create the game they originally set out to build, so no amount of additional money would help since the rot comes from the top down. 

    Some projects are just destined to fail, this is one of them.
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  • nursonurso Member UncommonPosts: 327
    Kyleran said:
    I'm convinced Mark and team lack the talent to create the game they originally set out to build, so no amount of additional money would help since the rot comes from the top down.
    When it comes to the technical side, they certainly don't lack talent.
    user298
  • TruvidiennTruvidienn Member UncommonPosts: 346
    I'm glad I have not dropped any money on this title.
    Sarla
  • Viper482Viper482 Member LegendaryPosts: 4,099
    Game is still pre-alpha, the fact they call it a beta is absurd.
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  • user298user298 Member UncommonPosts: 152
    After more than 9 years (counting from first videos on official YouTube where they were showing people in office actively working on parts of game), all they can show is more concept art of lamp posts in their newsletter and an hour-long Twitch "talking head" streams. They are still afraid to show an actual gameplay of the current build through videos and are still struggling to add basic things like properly-functioning lighting into their current engine demo. I logged into the current beta (build #145) yesterday, everything still looks atrocious including lighting which changes in noticeable distinct "steps" as your characters moves in and out of shaded areas, and at night the lighting oversaturates everything to the point of making distant trees look like a single sheet of dirty gray material and rocks and building walls facing the natural light source look like they were lit with a projector beam.

    And their other game, "Final Stand Ragnarok", hasn't received a single status update ever since they put it in "Early Access" on Steam 5 months ago: https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1605600?updates=true
    with virtually no active players (1-2 occasional players during last few months according to Steamdb) yet they still expect people to pay $20 for it...
    Valdheim
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,483
    edited April 2022
    Concept art is fine for a game early in the planning stages.  It's fine as something to post on the site of a released game to offer wallpapers or some such.  But as a status update ten years into development, it's really not very interesting.
    KyleranSplattrharken33Mendel
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    nurso said:
    Kyleran said:
    I'm convinced Mark and team lack the talent to create the game they originally set out to build, so no amount of additional money would help since the rot comes from the top down.
    When it comes to the technical side, they certainly don't lack talent.
    As evidenced by what exactly?
    Golelorn

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    Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm

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  • olepiolepi Member EpicPosts: 3,017
    Viper482 said:
    Game is still pre-alpha, the fact they call it a beta is absurd.

    In real software development, beta means they have written all the code, and tested it at least once as a complete product in alpha test. Now they are in beta, which means the game is done, and is expected to mostly work.

    Alpha means all the code is written, and the various parts have been tested. Alpha is when all the code is put together into the finished product and is tested as a whole for the first time.

    Of course, in game development, these terms really mean nothing.
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  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,483
    olepi said:
    Viper482 said:
    Game is still pre-alpha, the fact they call it a beta is absurd.

    In real software development, beta means they have written all the code, and tested it at least once as a complete product in alpha test. Now they are in beta, which means the game is done, and is expected to mostly work.

    Alpha means all the code is written, and the various parts have been tested. Alpha is when all the code is put together into the finished product and is tested as a whole for the first time.

    Of course, in game development, these terms really mean nothing.
    Game development often also has gamma testing after alpha and beta, which is the phase where the game has officially launched and is a buggy mess, but the company is promising to fix it.
    KylerannursoTheDalaiBombaChildoftheShadows
  • OldKingLogOldKingLog Member RarePosts: 600
    At this rate Duke Nukem will have a new game out before CU.
    [Deleted User]harken33
  • MensurMensur Member EpicPosts: 1,531
    Man- Dont they feel any shame for these shit updates?
    KyleranValdheimharken33

    mmorpg junkie since 1999



  • nursonurso Member UncommonPosts: 327
    user298 said:
    They are still afraid to show an actual gameplay of the current build through videos and are still struggling to add basic things like properly-functioning lighting into their current engine demo.
    They can' t show any gameplay because there simply isn't any yet.


    user298 said:
    And their other game, "Final Stand Ragnarok", hasn't received a single status update ever since they put it in "Early Access" on Steam 5 months ago: https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1605600?updates=true
    with virtually no active players (1-2 occasional players during last few months according to Steamdb) yet they still expect people to pay $20 for it...
    To be honest, I can't explain why they sent the FSR to EA either. The only explanation I can think of is that they want to gain experience. But in my opinion, they simply don't communicate enough for that.

    Kyleranharken33
  • nursonurso Member UncommonPosts: 327
    Kyleran said:
    As evidenced by what exactly?
    The technical demonstrations and tests they put on for backers. Like the massive ARC test with over 2k clients. Or the cherry keep siege.

    Alomar
  • nursonurso Member UncommonPosts: 327
    Mensur said:
    Man- Dont they feel any shame for these shit updates?
    What's the alternative? Shut up and play dead?
    Mensur
  • Aegrin56Aegrin56 Member UncommonPosts: 14
    edited April 2022

    Slapshot1188 said:


    nurso said:


    Slapshot1188 said:

    It's weird that they spend so much energy highlighting art but don't try and sell the jpegs to you.


    Isn't this a good thing?


    10 years ago I would have screamed YES!
    5 years ago I would have said YES!
    Nowadays?  I just wonder if there would have been a game to play if Mark had actually sold stuff and raised money…. Then again, it could just as easily be like Ashes or SC with never ending sales but still no released game…

    So… I guess… I don’t know if it’s a good or bad thing .



    Why do you put Ashes and SC in the same breath? Two different projects based on Scale and Funding alone with Ashes progressing towards its goals at a much faster pace. This coming from a SC backer of Early 2016. Seems like you just needed a random crowdfunded MMO to use for your comment...Disingenuous if that's the case. You are a legendary commenter though. Lol
    Ungood
  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,273
    Aegrin56 said:

    Slapshot1188 said:


    nurso said:


    Slapshot1188 said:

    It's weird that they spend so much energy highlighting art but don't try and sell the jpegs to you.


    Isn't this a good thing?


    10 years ago I would have screamed YES!
    5 years ago I would have said YES!
    Nowadays?  I just wonder if there would have been a game to play if Mark had actually sold stuff and raised money…. Then again, it could just as easily be like Ashes or SC with never ending sales but still no released game…

    So… I guess… I don’t know if it’s a good or bad thing .



    Why do you put Ashes and SC in the same breath? Two different projects based on Scale and Funding alone with Ashes progressing towards its goals at a much faster pace. This coming from a SC backer of Early 2016. Seems like you just needed a random crowdfunded MMO to use for your comment...Disingenuous if that's the case. You are a legendary commenter though. Lol
    Both still not launched, that's why.
    Kyleranharken33
  • InfernInfern Member UncommonPosts: 5
    edited April 2022
    So they coded thier own Enigne / background Network Tech?
    I know that Developing own Engine is extermly hard and takes many Years, but i cant believe they are still not finished it.
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