Runescape was a game I enjoyed for a long while playing five years and the main worries was how Jagex people changed so much the ones there now are so dishonest. many a time I joined threads on its forums about many of the problems yet when I started a new thread it was quickly removed for no explanation as clearly Jagex directly controlled this and edited it so that the game seemed to be the way they controlled it without the truth of its failures becoming general knowledge to make a lot more people quit.
I even went directly to Jagex to get an honest answer but found two of their mods lied very badly to me trying to cover up even worse. Imagine paying from New Zealand when our dollar was 59cents to the $US and yet with our $NZ improving to up to 80cents to $US the membership cost me even more yet they told me if the $US improved then the game would cost less and that I was really wrong - DER anyone else here stupid!!! Just after this they announced costs for new members would be going up but not existing members so why finally did they say this in public, me having not renewed while still being a member means I would have to start a new membership thus pay even more!!!
As far as RIOTs the actions were forced by hackers and macros as stolen accounts by world skilled computer cheats from China, Nigeria etc stole bank account details aswell as the game account details so used real peoples money to play their games to then sell the produce of the game and even the accounts for real world money and this did genuinely cost Jagex so although it wasn't the best way thats what they did. Naturally PKing was the favourite pastime mainly for the kids playing and the trade limits were annoying but the Grand Exchange for example took well over 30million gp off my bank account as I had been saving my gear so as to help as I became stronger - one example was the 468 Duel Rings I used to sell for 5K each regularly then suddenly the value in the trade said it was worth 756gp!!!!!, if you wonder about my experience my account was a combat Lvl111 with 1844 total skill. As far as Riots generally it was amazing being told by a friend and checking out the MOD Riot I think in world 120 and i'm sure after that a load of Mods would have quit.
As well as Jagex lies the fact experience was continuosly getting lessened by the game engine meant being addicted you had to be a member so much longer to earn the same experience as you had got in a shorter time earlier in the game - woodcutting where I had 92 was soul destroying with the lack of mage logs or even maples for my level now, mining was the same as the graphic change to moved really slowed it down but the ore drops continued to be slowed down so my mining83 was worse than ever, even their silly updates after Pking gone & trade limits never returned the same experience when you gained the special part from their new addition gloves etc yet why should I loose experience to be forced to do that!!!!!!!!! Everything turned me from enjoying my game time to hating vertually every aspect so as hard as it was I had to quit!
Generally I enjoyed the game for the friends I made and being an adult I found a huge number of fellow adults playing where I had joined originally to keep in touch with my nephews. many of the kids were also good mature understanding players that I tried to help understand how best to gain experience or do some of the quests I had done as I had 243 QPs with 15 quests left to do. Clan chat seemed good but I discovered this made all chat more disasterous as now friends came on the game into clan chat when many different discussions had been happening and too often the friend just joining in chat got messages confused and thus suddenly a long friendship was ended with many becoming enemies for all the wrong reasons. With the major updates the players seemed to be more adults as via pking going so did a larger part of the kids playing. The macros did disappear a lot but this never stopped them altogether but rather made the less players on mean world thieves needed to find a more worthwhile game to ROB.
Another side of friends was that although I met a lot of nice adults from the other side of the world I found a couple of men that used it for womanising and also a few woman that used it more to tease so many men & boys so putting them on ignore still caused trouble as they put pressure on my friends whom they hid their true style from as they used my good friends to find more contacts to hassle..
Finally games in general I find far too many people ignoring their own health and playing 24/7 which is inversely propotional to what happens to your health and thus how long you will live if you can't control the game addiction!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PvP was blatently removed, and replaced with a mini game.
So how can you get mad them for doing what they want with their game? what the heck???
Now, I really don't care two bits about either this game...or its players. REALLY don't care about either. But, does this question even DESERVE a response? I mean, I really want you to repeat that question out loud to yourself...then I want you to envision every POSSIBLE thing they could do to THEIR game, and see if you can't think of at least one that might make you mad too.
Hell, I'll beat you to it. They could walk in, delete all of your characters, leave you with a new level 1 toon, and give all of your earned goods and cash to the last person you saw in the game. Perhaps even the last person you killed. How would that feel to ya? You expect me to believe that you could have your time and your interests completely destroyed, and then handed to a person you didn't even like, and remain so "supportive" of them/
No, no you couldn't. So don't say ignorant things like, "How can you get mad at them for doing what they want to their game?" because we all play these games with the expectation that we can log in each day to play the same game we left the day before. Sure, some changes happen. That doesn't, however, render the feelings of people who are negatively impacted by such a thing irrelevant, or even irrational. It just means that they went to bed playing a game they liked, and woke up to something that really wasn't the same anymore...and it bothered the hell out of them.
Hmm, i'm so used to seeing highly ranked forum people with profession style spam so it seems MMORPG has this aswell!
Something I missed on my previous post was about cost in general, Runescape was cheap when I started and the cost comparison of $NZ to $US means with the economy where we earn a lot less per year in direct dollar comparison to even Australia it isn't worth playing an expensive game like WOW. When I recently compared these games and a few others I quickly realised to get a maxed account with full skills that RUNESCAPE would be possibly the most expensive game of the lot for me and i'd probably be in my grave by then as I have to work and survive first before I play which limits my time yet I am certain a large number of the kids playing today wont be alive when i'm in my final years as their excessive hours playing means they will die of worse disease first - since there's hundreds & thousands of sites for this truth just do a little study using links you find from www.drmercola.com and search all health concerns but start with SUNLIGHT!
Usually I wouldn't but........ LOL. They're playing a free MMO and pretty junky one at that and complain like the company owes them any loyalty. LOL. I hate using that phrase but in this case, it's justified.
W.R.O.N.G.
To feel the full experience of the game you need to get a premium account, thus you are paying them cash.
I did know they would kill the game eventually, after they hit "3D" i thought that already.. But yeah, Rs was a good game with awesome setup.. Though it lacked the interface and graphics to keep me at it.
Why would you pay for Runescape when there are so many better alternatives?
What Gameloading said...I tried Runescape with some of my friends who happened to be high level players who paid to play the game...it's a terrible terrible excuse of a game.
Though it was funny to watch my friends sit in major towns spamming "hey did you guys know that you can't type your password backward? It censors you!" and then ganking all of the stuff from people who were so friggen stupid that they actually tried it.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
i dont remember any riots in WoW, only political demonstrations (in a game...how sad is that?). as for Runescape...well..i've never thought highly of the game and to be honest the style of pvp (and those that play) lead me to believe that this was not as bad as it was made out to be.
MMO wish list:
-Changeable worlds -Solid non level based game -Sharks with lasers attached to their heads
Runescape amounts to poop on a stick. If the entire population hates the game and they gather in one zone, woo-hoo. But I really dont think anyone will care.
If I recall they have something like 6 million register users and 1 million playing subs. That would make it the second largest North American MMO....which would imply a great many would care. Just saying...
Originally posted by natausch I am uncertain if there were any in UO, however, given any collection of players invariably resulted in PK'ing in that game I'm not certain how it would work.
As has been mentioned, a bunch of guys trying to crash the server is hardly L.A. But yes, UO had its share of protests and related mass bannings. You can read about it here.
Runescape actually has 10 million accounts with 1 million being subscribers. I remember reading that blurb at gamasutra. I'm curious to see what changed about pvp and trading to convince even a handful of servers to riot. It's not a good idea to turn upside a playstyle people are used to. If that's what happened Jagex should just change things back. Hopefully this is a legitimate complaint unlike the way people whine about the game going 3D...
then how come it's not even competing in the market.
according to Nielsen games it's #3 for most played PC games for April-Nov 2007. I would say its got a significant market share or at least had it
Usually I wouldn't but........ LOL. They're playing a free MMO and pretty junky one at that and complain like the company owes them any loyalty. LOL. I hate using that phrase but in this case, it's justified.
W.R.O.N.G.
To feel the full experience of the game you need to get a premium account, thus you are paying them cash.
I did know they would kill the game eventually, after they hit "3D" i thought that already.. But yeah, Rs was a good game with awesome setup.. Though it lacked the interface and graphics to keep me at it.
Why would you pay for Runescape when there are so many better alternatives?
I've read it's a skill-based MMO. What other 'alternatives' is there? Ryzom, still offline. Ultima Online maybe? That's it.
It's impossible for runescapes market share to die, no matter what other developers do*. It's too easy to start runescape, and it has all the achievement entrapment type stuff that other MMO's have.
*unless another developer decides to make another browser/applet based game. granted a good deal of game developers are still trying to convince themselves that JAVA is just a trend that will die out.
I find it amazing that by 2020 first world countries will be competing to get immigrants.
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Runescape was a game I enjoyed for a long while playing five years and the main worries was how Jagex people changed so much the ones there now are so dishonest. many a time I joined threads on its forums about many of the problems yet when I started a new thread it was quickly removed for no explanation as clearly Jagex directly controlled this and edited it so that the game seemed to be the way they controlled it without the truth of its failures becoming general knowledge to make a lot more people quit.
I even went directly to Jagex to get an honest answer but found two of their mods lied very badly to me trying to cover up even worse. Imagine paying from New Zealand when our dollar was 59cents to the $US and yet with our $NZ improving to up to 80cents to $US the membership cost me even more yet they told me if the $US improved then the game would cost less and that I was really wrong - DER anyone else here stupid!!! Just after this they announced costs for new members would be going up but not existing members so why finally did they say this in public, me having not renewed while still being a member means I would have to start a new membership thus pay even more!!!
As far as RIOTs the actions were forced by hackers and macros as stolen accounts by world skilled computer cheats from China, Nigeria etc stole bank account details aswell as the game account details so used real peoples money to play their games to then sell the produce of the game and even the accounts for real world money and this did genuinely cost Jagex so although it wasn't the best way thats what they did. Naturally PKing was the favourite pastime mainly for the kids playing and the trade limits were annoying but the Grand Exchange for example took well over 30million gp off my bank account as I had been saving my gear so as to help as I became stronger - one example was the 468 Duel Rings I used to sell for 5K each regularly then suddenly the value in the trade said it was worth 756gp!!!!!, if you wonder about my experience my account was a combat Lvl111 with 1844 total skill. As far as Riots generally it was amazing being told by a friend and checking out the MOD Riot I think in world 120 and i'm sure after that a load of Mods would have quit.
As well as Jagex lies the fact experience was continuosly getting lessened by the game engine meant being addicted you had to be a member so much longer to earn the same experience as you had got in a shorter time earlier in the game - woodcutting where I had 92 was soul destroying with the lack of mage logs or even maples for my level now, mining was the same as the graphic change to moved really slowed it down but the ore drops continued to be slowed down so my mining83 was worse than ever, even their silly updates after Pking gone & trade limits never returned the same experience when you gained the special part from their new addition gloves etc yet why should I loose experience to be forced to do that!!!!!!!!! Everything turned me from enjoying my game time to hating vertually every aspect so as hard as it was I had to quit!
Generally I enjoyed the game for the friends I made and being an adult I found a huge number of fellow adults playing where I had joined originally to keep in touch with my nephews. many of the kids were also good mature understanding players that I tried to help understand how best to gain experience or do some of the quests I had done as I had 243 QPs with 15 quests left to do. Clan chat seemed good but I discovered this made all chat more disasterous as now friends came on the game into clan chat when many different discussions had been happening and too often the friend just joining in chat got messages confused and thus suddenly a long friendship was ended with many becoming enemies for all the wrong reasons. With the major updates the players seemed to be more adults as via pking going so did a larger part of the kids playing. The macros did disappear a lot but this never stopped them altogether but rather made the less players on mean world thieves needed to find a more worthwhile game to ROB.
Another side of friends was that although I met a lot of nice adults from the other side of the world I found a couple of men that used it for womanising and also a few woman that used it more to tease so many men & boys so putting them on ignore still caused trouble as they put pressure on my friends whom they hid their true style from as they used my good friends to find more contacts to hassle..
Finally games in general I find far too many people ignoring their own health and playing 24/7 which is inversely propotional to what happens to your health and thus how long you will live if you can't control the game addiction!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So how can you get mad them for doing what they want with their game? what the heck???
Now, I really don't care two bits about either this game...or its players. REALLY don't care about either. But, does this question even DESERVE a response? I mean, I really want you to repeat that question out loud to yourself...then I want you to envision every POSSIBLE thing they could do to THEIR game, and see if you can't think of at least one that might make you mad too.
Hell, I'll beat you to it. They could walk in, delete all of your characters, leave you with a new level 1 toon, and give all of your earned goods and cash to the last person you saw in the game. Perhaps even the last person you killed. How would that feel to ya? You expect me to believe that you could have your time and your interests completely destroyed, and then handed to a person you didn't even like, and remain so "supportive" of them/
No, no you couldn't. So don't say ignorant things like, "How can you get mad at them for doing what they want to their game?" because we all play these games with the expectation that we can log in each day to play the same game we left the day before. Sure, some changes happen. That doesn't, however, render the feelings of people who are negatively impacted by such a thing irrelevant, or even irrational. It just means that they went to bed playing a game they liked, and woke up to something that really wasn't the same anymore...and it bothered the hell out of them.
Hmm, i'm so used to seeing highly ranked forum people with profession style spam so it seems MMORPG has this aswell!
Something I missed on my previous post was about cost in general, Runescape was cheap when I started and the cost comparison of $NZ to $US means with the economy where we earn a lot less per year in direct dollar comparison to even Australia it isn't worth playing an expensive game like WOW. When I recently compared these games and a few others I quickly realised to get a maxed account with full skills that RUNESCAPE would be possibly the most expensive game of the lot for me and i'd probably be in my grave by then as I have to work and survive first before I play which limits my time yet I am certain a large number of the kids playing today wont be alive when i'm in my final years as their excessive hours playing means they will die of worse disease first - since there's hundreds & thousands of sites for this truth just do a little study using links you find from www.drmercola.com and search all health concerns but start with
SUNLIGHT!
dunno why people like this game so much it's pure crap.....
W.R.O.N.G.
To feel the full experience of the game you need to get a premium account, thus you are paying them cash.
I did know they would kill the game eventually, after they hit "3D" i thought that already.. But yeah, Rs was a good game with awesome setup.. Though it lacked the interface and graphics to keep me at it.
Why would you pay for Runescape when there are so many better alternatives?
What Gameloading said...I tried Runescape with some of my friends who happened to be high level players who paid to play the game...it's a terrible terrible excuse of a game.
Though it was funny to watch my friends sit in major towns spamming "hey did you guys know that you can't type your password backward? It censors you!" and then ganking all of the stuff from people who were so friggen stupid that they actually tried it.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
i dont remember any riots in WoW, only political demonstrations (in a game...how sad is that?). as for Runescape...well..i've never thought highly of the game and to be honest the style of pvp (and those that play) lead me to believe that this was not as bad as it was made out to be.
MMO wish list:
-Changeable worlds
-Solid non level based game
-Sharks with lasers attached to their heads
Are you listening to yourself?
VIRTUAL RIOTS?
OH MY GOD, THE HORROR!
If I recall they have something like 6 million register users and 1 million playing subs. That would make it the second largest North American MMO....which would imply a great many would care. Just saying...
mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/37/feature/2065
Why necromance a dead thread?
-Azure Prower
http://www.youtube.com/AzurePrower
As has been mentioned, a bunch of guys trying to crash the server is hardly L.A. But yes, UO had its share of protests and related mass bannings. You can read about it here.
Europa / Siege
then how come it's not even competing in the market.
according to Nielsen games it's #3 for most played PC games for April-Nov 2007. I would say its got a significant market share or at least had it
W.R.O.N.G.
To feel the full experience of the game you need to get a premium account, thus you are paying them cash.
I did know they would kill the game eventually, after they hit "3D" i thought that already.. But yeah, Rs was a good game with awesome setup.. Though it lacked the interface and graphics to keep me at it.
Why would you pay for Runescape when there are so many better alternatives?
I've read it's a skill-based MMO. What other 'alternatives' is there? Ryzom, still offline. Ultima Online maybe? That's it.
It's impossible for runescapes market share to die, no matter what other developers do*. It's too easy to start runescape, and it has all the achievement entrapment type stuff that other MMO's have.
*unless another developer decides to make another browser/applet based game. granted a good deal of game developers are still trying to convince themselves that JAVA is just a trend that will die out.
I find it amazing that by 2020 first world countries will be competing to get immigrants.