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Eve=Boring
chop3593
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I played Eve for about two weeks and I feel so bored with it. I don't like the concept of driving a ship around space and mining all the time. The pvp is very bland compared to many games.
Just My two cents
EDIT; The graphics are amazing though
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Eve is like that with most WoW players it seems. I tried it, couldnt get into it, seemed too bland also. But Eve is one of those Niche games, you either like it or you dont.
Currently restarting World of Warcraft
I can understand this viewpoint as there isn't much in the way of screensplashing rewards or bustling activity wherever you go. One of the things that REALLY helped me getting into the game was to find a compatible corporation. I'm very much into heavy roleplay and found a corporation there that really carries that spirit. Mining and missions are okay, but they're secondary to the conversations and adventures we create. If you want exciting PvP, more than likely you'll need an aggressive and wild PvP corporation to engage in the heavy duty stuff the game has to offer. It takes a bit of getting into, but there is a rush when you're racing to outdamage your opponent before his buddies show up.
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Granted, not everyone likes being a ship but that will change a bit once the Ambulation expansion hits.
As far as the pvp being bland compared to other games I think you are just way off base here. If anything Eve has the most exciting and non bland pvp out there. It's much more than "Oh I have all my cooldowns available and I will pwn anyone" or "Oh shit I dont have any cooldowns and now I am screwed by anyone who happens to run along"
I hardly beleive that 2 weeks is long enough to get a proper grasp on pvp in Eve. In the end though like the poster above said, Eve is a niche game and people either love it or hate it although alot of people start off not liking it and then come back a couple of times and then get hooked hard.
Dont come back, my two cents.
OMG...Of all the arguments you may have, you say the PVP is bland. I'd really love to see your idea of exciting then. EVE has (By a landslide) the best PVP I've ever seen.
Did you even play this game before starting this thread?
Wow...I guess to each his own (But seriously, someone tell me a game with better PVP)
Better PVP. Try any fps out there
(sorry, just had to. PVP is a bleeding joke in most mmo's)
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On the contrary, I find that two weeks is enough to find out if you like the basic premise of EVE or not. If driving a spaceship around isn't your thing, then it's not your thing. EVE is about driving spaceships, and it certainly isn't for everyone.
I do have to point out that if you spent the whole two weeks mining, you've hardly experienced the most thrilling aspects of EVE.
Once ambulation hits the servers, we'll have actual avatars, so you might want to check back then for gameplay and concepts that might be more pleasing. When you do, I suggest trying out missions, manufacturing and perhaps a smidgen of PVP as well.
Combat is boring in EvE. I feel it takes more skill, tactics and knowledge/strategy. But the fact of "death" being a punishment is what makes it great to me. I will admit there are times where I just let my character train, while I try out some other MMOs or play some other multiplayer games, but EvE is one of the few games to me that feels like a real world.
I also feel that although there are pirates in the game, its system stops "griefers" that most Open PvP full loot MMOs face. It could also be a combination of the mature community and it all being on one server, so reputation does carry weight.
Well stated and argumented opinion. You can have your 2 cents back
Eve isn't for everyone.
I have a couple buddies that tried Eve and just couldnt wrap their heads around the complexities of Eve.
Its fine i dont give them a hardtime.
Tricking out space ships, tweaking skills, Slow but complex combat and severe death penalty arent for everyone.
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op, please ignore the quoted post.
ambulation will not, i repeat WILL NOT have dancing.
nothing to see here.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
just out of curiousity... did they go to an eve forum and post 4 lines about how they tried it and it wasn't for them?
you CAN do lots of things. does that mean 1 you should? or 2 anyone cares?
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
just out of curiousity... did they go to an eve forum and post 4 lines about how they tried it and it wasn't for them?
you CAN do lots of things. does that mean 1 you should? or 2 anyone cares?
erm.... that wasn't the OP... that was a response by someone who it seems didn't quit EVE, but kept playing it despite their fiends not liking it. your response doesn't make much sense to me.
Everything creates huge amounts of negativity on the internet, that's what the internet is for: Negativity, porn and lolcats.
If it's not fun don't play it. So bye OP!
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I think he was saying that to make fun of the OP
WTF PVP experience can a 2 week old player have to overall judge EVE's PVP as bland?
EVE is NOT about instant gratification. No way can you experience what PVP has to offer with a 2 week old character.
Do EVE a favor and stick with WoW.
Just my 2 cents.
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Granted, not everyone likes being a ship but that will change a bit once the Ambulation expansion hits.
As far as the pvp being bland compared to other games I think you are just way off base here. If anything Eve has the most exciting and non bland pvp out there. It's much more than "Oh I have all my cooldowns available and I will pwn anyone" or "Oh shit I dont have any cooldowns and now I am screwed by anyone who happens to run along"
I hardly beleive that 2 weeks is long enough to get a proper grasp on pvp in Eve. In the end though like the poster above said, Eve is a niche game and people either love it or hate it although alot of people start off not liking it and then come back a couple of times and then get hooked hard.
I find 2 weeks plenty of time becasue thats about what the free trial period is. If your game is really balnd in that 2 week period for most of the user base then it tends to not do as well as something that is easier to get into. The last time i played Eve i could even figure out how to get started as they kinda just tossed me out there and didnt really show me what to do at all.... Thats not the best way to make a game... I just find that Eve could be a whole lot better in many aspects...
I'm a huge Fan of Sci-fi and space stuff but Eve is just kind of bland compared to many other things out there. I wont say the PVP is boring as i never experienced it but as a game that charges a monthly fee it really shouldnt of been near as hard to start getting into.
The game simply isnt great for everyone plain and simple. I check back with a free trial now and then to see if anything has changed to see if it is easier to get into cuz i really wanna give it a try but when i cant figure out what to do in the first 5 minutes there is something wrong (Considering I've been playing MMORPG's since Meridian 59 was released originally (about a year before UO)
Issue is they need to be more clear in some areas and make some aspects of the game not so boring... Make planetary missions (where your an avatar etc) Its got some unique aspects but those are often overlooked because it comes off as very slow paced and boring to a whole lot of people (much like Entropia Universe in that aspect...) I dont think they should necessarily Dumb it down but explaining thing a bit better helps alot when you have new players....
First off this comes off as pretty absurd. Just because someone doesnt like a game they should stick to WoW... Dont assume all MMO players play WoW.... Also..... Eve's Free Trial is 2 weeks.... If they cant manage to do something to get you interested in 2 weeks alot of people simply wont pay for it.... While its not about instant gratification it's not easy at all to slide into for a majority of people, I've been playing MMO's for just over a decade or so and played MUD's before that..... I've done slow paced games but they usually give you a reason to stay around be it free play or whatever.... Charging a monthly fee for Eve is where the problem lies.... People get 14 days to try it out and like i said if they dont find something to spark their interest in that time they simply usually wont pay that monthly fee... However monthly fees and slow paced gameplay keep alot of idiots out...
Dont act like a fanboy and make statements that sound like your trying to win an argument like your angry with the person. Actually look at it from a perspective other then your own and wrap your head around that.... Learning that not everyone has the same line of thinking that you do is an important aspect of an argument otherwise you just make yourself look foolish or simply that your an angry troll of some sorts...
My point here is that dont judge someone based on a 2 week experience if thats all they have in free play time to get a feel for the game and see if there is a reason for them to stay around...
You say that as if it were a bad thing. Eve is not aimed at the mass market (which is a huge understatement)
In two weeks you get a general feel of how some parts of the game feel like. Cold harsh world - check.
Economy - maybe check.
Giant nebulae in empty space - check.
If that doesn't get you interested, then eve won't be for you, plain and simple. Eve is a feature monster, even the legthy (and countless times reworked) tutorial (they even cut it in length and throw you into the action faster now) can't cover even a small part of it.
It's the only reason why eve is going so strong with so many die hard vets. They find something new everyday.
Mining is boring but you have not to do it. I mine only afk
. PvP is just the best on MMO market. At all great player driven MMO!!! Too sad its not fantasy 
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It's funny, I feel thesame way you do about charging for games, but I feel it about games that offer no challenge at all, just a long, relentless, boring, grind. This includes the vast majority of MMOs out there.
When you haven't been able to figure something out in 5 minutes, what did you do? Did you look on the EVE-O forums? Did you post there? There is a whole forum dedicated to "New Citizen Q&A". Did you join a corporation so you could find advice from more experienced players? Did you join a help channel or the "EVE University channel?
If someone had played 1 or 2 differnet MMO games and then decided to try a third, it probably would take about 5 minutes to get the basics down. Reason is, the vast majority of MMO games are almost identical in many respects, but EVE is not one of those games. EVE, as you have discovered, is very different.
CCP understands this and has made the New Citizen forum available. Many veteran players understand this as well which is where there is a corporation and public channel named "EVE University". It is also why many corporations welcome new players and are more than willing to take the time to shower newer players in advice.
If you tell people that EVE is a tough game, that you are just dropped in without any clear direction or safeguards to keep you out of trouble, I would agree. But for those that take the time to seek out the information that is available and learn the ropes they soon become very glad that those safeguards do not exist, because that means that, if you're willing to put in the time and effort (NOTHING in EVE is free) you can do pretty much anything!
It's been said enough but I'll repeat it anyway, EVE is not for everyone. But it is still, in my never to be humble opinion, the best MMO available today.
Simply put, Eve Game play is what YOU make it .. no one will hold your hand and tell you go here and kill 500 mobs like some other MMOs out there. My Suggestions , Join a Corp asap !!!! Eve-University is the best place to start for a corp. You can ask all the little questions you hard desires and they hold classes on pvp and gameplay all the time for new players. there url " http://www.eve-ivy.com/index.php " that should point you in the right direction.
I suspect you played for the trial period mostly solo. Recommend you give the trial another go, but join EVE University this time around. You might find the experience quite different.
Also, I've been playing almost 15 months, and other than during the tutorial I've never done a bit of mining. (have helped haul on occasion)
So if mining isn't your thing (I abhor it) run missions instead to build up your starting skills/cash base. That's what I did and it funded the rest of my career in EVE)
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It's funny, I feel thesame way you do about charging for games, but I feel it about games that offer no challenge at all, just a long, relentless, boring, grind. This includes the vast majority of MMOs out there.
When you haven't been able to figure something out in 5 minutes, what did you do? Did you look on the EVE-O forums? Did you post there? There is a whole forum dedicated to "New Citizen Q&A". Did you join a corporation so you could find advice from more experienced players? Did you join a help channel or the "EVE University channel?
If someone had played 1 or 2 differnet MMO games and then decided to try a third, it probably would take about 5 minutes to get the basics down. Reason is, the vast majority of MMO games are almost identical in many respects, but EVE is not one of those games. EVE, as you have discovered, is very different.
CCP understands this and has made the New Citizen forum available. Many veteran players understand this as well which is where there is a corporation and public channel named "EVE University". It is also why many corporations welcome new players and are more than willing to take the time to shower newer players in advice.
If you tell people that EVE is a tough game, that you are just dropped in without any clear direction or safeguards to keep you out of trouble, I would agree. But for those that take the time to seek out the information that is available and learn the ropes they soon become very glad that those safeguards do not exist, because that means that, if you're willing to put in the time and effort (NOTHING in EVE is free) you can do pretty much anything!
It's been said enough but I'll repeat it anyway, EVE is not for everyone. But it is still, in my never to be humble opinion, the best MMO available today.
Problem is when i played it alot of this stuff wasnt made aware... They dont make you aware of alot of things when you started last i played....
And to the other guy that responded to me.... Two Weeks is nothing to get people hooked in a Slow paced game like Eve.. A month would be more acceptable for getting into it a bit more. Making people more aware of things when they get started is a corner stone for anything out there. If you just toss people into action faster its a bit more absurd for people to figure things out.... It needs to be reworked to show how things work...
Another thing to note to the guy i quoted here.... CCP clearly doesnt understand *this* as y ou put it..... If you need to go to a forum to get started there is something wrong from the get go. I understand they are trying to "save" on time but it doesnt help people that are new to the game. I find CCP does the opposite of what most companies do.... They give into the veteran players and completely try to shun the newer players... You can argue forums and corporations all you want but these things are not made easily apparent (at least last time i played) to a newer player.
Your there for awhile you can go ohh you can do this and this when your new but what about when you were brand spanking new? CCP tends to overlook that fact. Yeah they offer forums and there are corporations... But not making people very aware of it is the problem... I know its not a game for everyone i have said that many times... Its a slow paced game... Also I dont think any game that charges for a box should really force people to pay a monthly fee of 14.99... Charge the box then charge a buck a character or whatever....
The problem is saying "its good" not to have those safeguards is a bit of a problem for most people those safeguards are needed for new people period. No matter if there are help forums or not there needs to be something in world for newer players (give vets the option to skip it or people the option to skip it but it needs to be there..) Just saying ohh forums are enough or ohh a help channel is enough or ohh corporations are enough is a bit absurd if they dont know how to access them.
Anything that people need to consistantly go out of the game into forums to learn the ropes i find a bit off... While veteran players are all ohh hey this is easy unless your brought in by a friend that shows you how to play its not as easy as many of the people that have been playing awhile think it is. Its easy to you cuz you've been there for awhile...
I think thats something most people take for granted in games and its something im frankly growing tired of... You guys were new once to but so many of you forget it and act like you never were and act like everything is ohh so easy to get into.
Start playing again after you've had your memory wiped of all thigs related to Eve and see how easily you fall back into it (i know that sounds odd but..) Remember you were new and remember the struggle that was there.... They make it hard for new players and favor veteran players... As i said they do the exact opposite of most MMO's but going either way in that regard is in poor taste... You need to have a balance of favoring either.... Make it easier for new players to understand what is going on but still put in content for vets..
You only say the things you do because you've been playing awhile and many people that have been playing any game for awhile kind of disregard that they were new and forget just how harsh it really can be. I think that you forget that and that things could be alot better then simply having forums... There needs to be a way without always constantly having to ask someone or checking online....
If you include the time I played the trial and all subscribed time, I've played slightly over 6 months.
You seem to forget one thing, there was a time when my experience ingame was, "enough to finish the tutorial". In other words, I was new once, just as each of the 40,000 or so players logged in yesterday afternoon were all new once. Maybe I'm not new today, but I was once.
So, my question to you is, you complain about how you were not aware os certin things. Well, now you are, so, what are you going to do about it? Be a successful EVE player? Or not?