If you include the time I played the trial and all subscribed time, I've played slightly over 6 months. You seem to forget one thing, there was a time when my experience ingame was, "enough to finish the tutorial". In other words, I was new once, just as each of the 40,000 or so players logged in yesterday afternoon were all new once. Maybe I'm not new today, but I was once. So, my question to you is, you complain about how you were not aware os certin things. Well, now you are, so, what are you going to do about it? Be a successful EVE player? Or not?
To that i may try the trial again finding this stuff out and give it another go.... I just think in regards that they should include things in world to get started not off game... Eve is a good game for the people that like it but it is one that is hard to get into unless you have mass patience for a game... I have patience i just find it somewhat of an odd game that could do a few things better and hopefully CCP realizes some of the things that could be done to help out understanding of the game at the start on some level themselves without having to resort to websites and forums to start...
If you played eve for two weeks and say pvp is "bland", I frankly find it hard to believe you pvp'ed even once. Nobody who pvps and loses their ship and modules (or alternatively wins and gets some of the other ship's modules) can sit there with a straight face and say pvp is "bland".
So flying around in a ship isn't your thing. I don't hold that against you. But don't come here and post obvious drivel just because the basic gameplay elements didn't interest you.
The point is EvE is complicated and even vets dont know everything about the game. Tutorial was cut shorter because many people, knowing that the game was complicated, still decided they don't need the tutorial.
The tutorial is just a introduction into various parts of the game.
This is a sandbox game, no quests, no shiny addon for your avatar to make him look cool. No huge oversize raid bosses, that in reality should crush you and your entire raid since hes so hugegantic.
This game is all about the social aspects between you and your corp (or anti social for you and your enemies) and PvP. Also complexity is one of this games best aspects where all these other MMOs are carbon copies of each other.
Yea the combat is boring sometimes, but also has a huge layer of strategy and tactics. Many of the "fun/popular" MMOs are like Checkers, EvE has a certain sophistication and prestige like Chess. But I understand EvE isnt for everyone and it isn't the best game, but boring is something its not.
Originally posted by chop3593 I played Eve for about two weeks and I feel so bored with it. I don't like the concept of driving a ship around space and mining all the time. The pvp is very bland compared to many games. Just My two cents
EDIT; The graphics are amazing though
Sorry it didn't appeal to you, but that's one of the great things about EVE. It doesn't try to appeal to everyone. EVE is what it is and players either enjoy it or don't. It doesn't try to be a 'mass appeal' game and that's what makes it so good for those of us who love it.
That said there is much more to EVE than mining... I can't help but wonder how you have even begun to form an opinion of PVP in EVE when youdidn't even make it past the 14 day trial. Seriously... you can't even begin to scratch the surface of EVE's PVP in that time.
At any rate, sorry you didn't enjoy EVE. But I honestly don't think you gave it much of a chance if you seriously think all there is to do is mining.
"A ship-of-war is the best ambassador." - Oliver Cromwell
I'm sorry to hear you've had a bad/boring experience with EVE.
I'll admit, that if you don't find the right player corp, then it's going to be tough liking it (especially if your aspirations are to mine the whole time, but even mining ops can be fun).
But if you DO find the right player corp, EVE is one of the best games out there! If you're willing to try again, roll a caldari/achura character, soldier spec. PVP in EVE in low sec/.0 space is absolutely amazing with the right corp!!
its boring , if u aske me .... i played over a year, pvp/pve in 0.0 and lowsec... ond its always the same, nothing new, beside some new shipa and FW . BORING !!!!
I can't believe we have so many fearful posters. One thing Eve is not, is boring, unless you deliberately set out to make it so. Please explain to me how risking everything you have on your ship and your implants is boring, oh yeah if you only stay in the safe areas and do safe things. Well in that case every game you play is boring. You should be playing FPS's to get your none risk high.
I agree with the OP. The skill system is outstanding. And so are the large-scale PvP, the economy, and politics at end-game. Other than these things, the play style of this game is what makes it lame. (playing a ship instead of an avatar) You can't invite friends into your ship or hang out together.
The expansion didn't solve anything.
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I can't believe we have so many fearful posters. One thing Eve is not, is boring, unless you deliberately set out to make it so. Please explain to me how risking everything you have on your ship and your implants is boring, oh yeah if you only stay in the safe areas and do safe things. Well in that case every game you play is boring. You should be playing FPS's to get your none risk high.
Gate camping ganking really isn't that exciting. Which in my experience was about 75% of the PvP combats I ran into. Otherwise the mobs AI in missions was not very exciting (up to tier 4 combat missions anyway). Its a ok game, but after playing it for a few months it never really grabbed me, and i lived in low sec.
I think there are alot of ways they could improve upon the game, maybe have a different race for example rather then just 4 human cultures etc. Sooner or later i figure they will come out with a "EVE 2" which would be interesting. Meanwhile I don't see slightly improved graphics or the ability to walk outside ones ship as being major expansions.
Other than these things, the play style of this game is what makes it lame. (playing a ship instead of an avatar) You can't invite friends into your ship or hang out together.
You want to invite friends over, turn off the computer and share a beer with some in RL. Games are for killing, and EVE provides and excellent platform for that. Socializing is a minor concern......
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Ozmodam belive it or not, is is boring after some time.
You were saying something about risking ur ship/gear/implants.... you must be the one that fly's nightmare or machariel, full officer/faction fitted in some godforgoten low sec running missions, or ratting in enemy controled zone, or just gatecamping in 20bil ship. Just to get feeling of risking something.
You do this ? I dont think so, u fly safe some 200 mil fitted BS/HaC, gating for hours for 5 kills, roaming for some 10 kills more, or misionin some lvl4 missions. When u do this every day, over'n over - it is boring.
But still, its nice game with nice graphic, music sux bigtime, comunity is helpfull, a bit complicated if u are beginer, but overall - nice game.
I played this game for a few months way back and finally quit. Reason one, you'll never be able to compete with those people who've been in the game for more than a year, not even if you end up being in the game for a year. Reason two, the game is repetitive, as in you end up doing the same things over and over. Reason three, after awhile you have to leave safe space to make the money you need to, hence you become the prey of the vultures and miscreants that seem to plague this game and because of reason one, you're defenseless against them.
Now with that being said, it's a good game, not great. The skill over time system sucks. It's the worst way to level I've ever seen and the reason I originally quit. I noticed one day I wasn't going to be able to pilot the ship I just bought til I trained one skill for over 30 days... adios EVE, hello EQ2.
I originally played the game to get my Earth and Beyond fix, which I never did. As of yet there is not a single sci-fi space game that is better than Earth and Beyond was. I have boycotted EA, as many other people I know have, because they took down the game when they were still making money, so they could canabilize its staff for other games.
That's enough of my rant. Try this game, some people like it, but understand most people don't seem to stick around and there's a reason for that. Also I believe the reason that they're so successful getting new subscribers is that they spend more money advertising than nearly any other mmo out there.
Zenren
If you're reading this, you probably need to get some sun.
I played Eve for about two weeks and I feel so bored with it. I don't like the concept of driving a ship around space and mining all the time. The pvp is very bland compared to many games. Just My two cents
EDIT; The graphics are amazing though
This is where you went wrong. EVE's harsh death penalty system helps make the gameplay so intense, I thought my heart was gonna beat out my chest the first time I went to 0.0
Have fun going back to EQ clones where you fight all night long pointlessly. Can't make anyone pay a ransom. Can kill a guy and they just rez and come right back. <---- Pointless PVP MMOs is that way (mmo lsting)
I played this game for a few months way back and finally quit. Reason one, you'll never be able to compete with those people who've been in the game for more than a year (lies, been posted here on the forums many times why this is simply not true) , not even if you end up being in the game for a year. Reason two, the game is repetitive, as in you end up doing the same things over and over (yup keep doing the same thing and that thing becomes repetitive boredom. Luckily there's a ton of other things to do in Eve and you aren't locked into the class you picked last year). Reason three, after awhile you have to leave safe space to make the money you need to (really ? I made more money solo in high sec doing level 4 missions and never entering low sec space at all if I didn't want to), hence you become the prey of the vultures and miscreants that seem to plague this game and because of reason one, you're defenseless against them. (defenseless ?? learn how to defend yourself, there are ways. I guess it's just easier to insult the players than to think isn't it ?) Now with that being said, it's a good game, not great. The skill over time system sucks. It's the worst way to level I've ever seen and the reason I originally quit (I guess you would rather grind missions or some retard mob all day to level ?). I noticed one day I wasn't going to be able to pilot the ship I just bought til I trained one skill for over 30 days... adios EVE, hello EQ2 (lol) I originally played the game to get my Earth and Beyond fix, which I never did. As of yet there is not a single sci-fi space game that is better than Earth and Beyond was. I have boycotted EA, as many other people I know have, because they took down the game when they were still making money, so they could canabilize its staff for other games. That's enough of my rant. Try this game, some people like it, but understand most people don't seem to stick around and there's a reason for that. Also I believe the reason that they're so successful getting new subscribers is that they spend more money advertising than nearly any other mmo out there. (No one sticks around ?? I guess that's why Eves population is constantly growing unlike every other MMO out there other than WoW) Zenren
So far your post is full of bs and lies. Do you have anything else to add ?
The argument about never being able to compete has been debunked so many times I've lost count. You should read the reasons why your argument is totally bogus, you might gain a new respect for EVE.
Also, I have no idea how much CCP spends on advertizing, but I do know this: The best advertizing in the world may draw someone to EVE originally, but only interesting and engaging gameplay will keep people subscribing month after month, and the fact is, that after so many years EVE is still gaining in # of subscriptions.
You may not like the game and I can understand that, but to be still growing so many years after release, well, maybe CCP is doing something right, ya think?
After more than a year of playing, I still find EVE tosses me new gameplay experiences.
Most of my first year in EVE was spend in 0.0, and I got involved in some amazing fights in the Smash-Roadkill wars.
But I took a few months off for AOC (oof) and when I returned I thought I'd join a nice, well organized, peaceful empire corp.
Within 2 weeks of joining one of our members (with one month of experience) somehow stole from a wreck (allegedly) and then smack talked (one line) one of the more violent and high level Merc Corps who promptly war-dec'd us, demanding an apology and a bunch of ISK to stop the war.
We thought it over, discussed it, and decided it was a great chance to teach our new members a bit about PVP combat and took the fight to them.
Now, I'm not going to kid you, they certainly had the upper hand in the first few fights however we did manage to draw some blood and probably break even in ship losses from a dollar perspective. (and we learned alot from observing their combat techniques against us) The fight (and fun) continues against a corp that has players all with 1-4 years experience, and yet, we can hold our own (well, sort of) despite most of player base being pretty new.
Will we win? No, probably not, but we'll fight the good fight as long as we can, because that's what EVE is really all about, and everyone agreed we've had a ton of fun so far. We've rallied together and dragged a slew of miners/industrialists out of their PVE shells and given them a taste of blood.
EVE is what you make of it, and while I've found it boring at times, in bouncing around I keep finding new things to do and battles to fight. I've busted POS's in Armor tanked Ravens, run in Steath bomber corps that gate camped key enemy pipelines, Battled major alliances and fought along side Titans and Dreadnaughts (and even got doomsdayed once)
Now its empire battles against hardened merc corp.... who knows what else lies ahead this year, but I'm looking forward to finding out.
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He got his first kill a day after his trial account ended and he subscribed on a full account. Now, 2 weeks later (that's less than a month after rolling hic character) he has 4 cruiser kills, 5 destroyer kills, and 11 frigate kills. He has lost a total of 4 frigates.
And this guy has chosen one of the more difficult professions, especially for a character so young, solo pirate.
Of course, I doubt this guy spends all his time complaining about how unfair EVE is 'cause noobs can't compete. Sure, he's not going against seasoned vets, but he's already begun a career that is sure to go places!
Originally posted by mf_raven its boring , if u aske me .... i played over a year, pvp/pve in 0.0 and lowsec... ond its always the same, nothing new, beside some new shipa and FW . BORING !!!!
No offense... that just means you're doing it wrong. I PVP in a very small group normally... <10 ships and usually <4... we do fine... often engaging twice or more than our own numbers and come away with kills. In the past 2 months I haven't lost a single ship and have gotten over 100 kills doing this. Everything from Battleships to Haulers. In 0.0... low-sec and high-sec.
"A ship-of-war is the best ambassador." - Oliver Cromwell
Eve is a true PvP game. It's not built around a PVE universe. SO IMO it's a top tier PvP game. If you were looking for fluff it's not here. If you were looking for some good PvP it is. I agree the whole risk vs reward thing really adds to the game. The death penalty is brutal sometimes and thus make people think before attacking. This game will make you paranoid if you play it long enough.
I was just qouting from my own experience above. I'm happy so many people resort to name calling and pseudo profanity to express themselves, it really makes your argument more factually sound.
Number one... the four things you end up doing in this game are- Mine, Missions, Craft, and PvP... that's it. How is that different from any other MMO out there? The graphics are good, especially with the new expansion, but the skills over time system still sucks. I will not play this game for that reason alone.
Also I've been in guilds and seen people who've PvPed... the one who wins repeatedly is the one who's been playing longer. If you end up beating another guild with more tenured members, it's because you swarmed them with a million freaking newbs.
The death penatly in this game does suck... I mean really suck. Nothing like losing a ship you've spent a month saving up money for and finding out the insurance doesn't give you crap back, of course if you forget to clone, you might as well just hang up your suspenders and go join the Ogres, 'cause "there aint no comin' back" (that's my crow qoute).
The people who are ranting against me have time on their side. They'll say all this crap because they have an investment in the game and don't want to see the new membership drop, otherwise who will they use as cannonfodder? I mean that qoute about using the war as a lesson in PvP for the new members is priceless. It shows the arrogance and superiority that's rampant in this game. You aint shit if your character isn't at least a 2006 vintage...
So yell and scream and bitch about what I said, but this was, and is, my experience with this game. The reason it's so popular is because the company advertises up the yin yang and most people find it hard to leave after they've invested so much time into the game.
For most people it's like an addict kicking a drug, the only way they'll admit there's a problem is when it's finally to painful to keep doing the drug, otherwise they'll defend it until they either die from it or suffer some kind of consequence that prevents them from continuing.
Is this game any different from any other MMO out there? NO... the mechanics are exactly the same. The skills over time system, the massive death penatly, and the inability to "TRULY" compete with anyone who has been in the game for a significantly longer period of time, is the reason I have not come back, and probably will never come back. My personal opinion, go pick a game that's not so time intensive... this one is really going to keep you from the real world. I personally started playing Shot Online because it gives me an MMO experience, yet I can be done with it in 30 minutes.
Also Earth and Beyond was 10 times funner than Eve... and I still boycot EA because they canceled the game when it was still popular.
Zenren
If you're reading this, you probably need to get some sun.
I started the trial and I just feel like ' why bother? ' after a couple of hours. I guess all those years of online shooters have spoiled me. That's where I've been since the downfall of Ultima Online- about 9 years now. These kinds of games seem absolutely boring to me now. Wonder if I'll feel the same about Darkfall if it ever comes out. Probably.
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To that i may try the trial again finding this stuff out and give it another go.... I just think in regards that they should include things in world to get started not off game... Eve is a good game for the people that like it but it is one that is hard to get into unless you have mass patience for a game... I have patience i just find it somewhat of an odd game that could do a few things better and hopefully CCP realizes some of the things that could be done to help out understanding of the game at the start on some level themselves without having to resort to websites and forums to start...
If you played eve for two weeks and say pvp is "bland", I frankly find it hard to believe you pvp'ed even once. Nobody who pvps and loses their ship and modules (or alternatively wins and gets some of the other ship's modules) can sit there with a straight face and say pvp is "bland".
So flying around in a ship isn't your thing. I don't hold that against you. But don't come here and post obvious drivel just because the basic gameplay elements didn't interest you.
The point is EvE is complicated and even vets dont know everything about the game. Tutorial was cut shorter because many people, knowing that the game was complicated, still decided they don't need the tutorial.
The tutorial is just a introduction into various parts of the game.
This is a sandbox game, no quests, no shiny addon for your avatar to make him look cool. No huge oversize raid bosses, that in reality should crush you and your entire raid since hes so hugegantic.
This game is all about the social aspects between you and your corp (or anti social for you and your enemies) and PvP. Also complexity is one of this games best aspects where all these other MMOs are carbon copies of each other.
Yea the combat is boring sometimes, but also has a huge layer of strategy and tactics. Many of the "fun/popular" MMOs are like Checkers, EvE has a certain sophistication and prestige like Chess. But I understand EvE isnt for everyone and it isn't the best game, but boring is something its not.
LMAO PvP is bland? oh boy......
WoW PvP has depth then? X kills Y while Z heals X? how EXCITING!
Sorry it didn't appeal to you, but that's one of the great things about EVE. It doesn't try to appeal to everyone. EVE is what it is and players either enjoy it or don't. It doesn't try to be a 'mass appeal' game and that's what makes it so good for those of us who love it.
That said there is much more to EVE than mining... I can't help but wonder how you have even begun to form an opinion of PVP in EVE when youdidn't even make it past the 14 day trial. Seriously... you can't even begin to scratch the surface of EVE's PVP in that time.
At any rate, sorry you didn't enjoy EVE. But I honestly don't think you gave it much of a chance if you seriously think all there is to do is mining.
"A ship-of-war is the best ambassador." - Oliver Cromwell
I'm sorry to hear you've had a bad/boring experience with EVE.
I'll admit, that if you don't find the right player corp, then it's going to be tough liking it (especially if your aspirations are to mine the whole time, but even mining ops can be fun).
But if you DO find the right player corp, EVE is one of the best games out there! If you're willing to try again, roll a caldari/achura character, soldier spec. PVP in EVE in low sec/.0 space is absolutely amazing with the right corp!!
dont post....
just my two cents
OP, 2 weeks REALLY isnt enough time to see PvP in Eve. Check out some youtube videos for what high end ships go through
its boring , if u aske me .... i played over a year, pvp/pve in 0.0 and lowsec... ond its always the same, nothing new, beside some new shipa and FW . BORING !!!!
I can't believe we have so many fearful posters. One thing Eve is not, is boring, unless you deliberately set out to make it so. Please explain to me how risking everything you have on your ship and your implants is boring, oh yeah if you only stay in the safe areas and do safe things. Well in that case every game you play is boring. You should be playing FPS's to get your none risk high.
I agree with the OP. The skill system is outstanding. And so are the large-scale PvP, the economy, and politics at end-game. Other than these things, the play style of this game is what makes it lame. (playing a ship instead of an avatar) You can't invite friends into your ship or hang out together.
The expansion didn't solve anything.
eve was the only game to ever get me into pvp. hehe
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i didnt like it either , the new graphics are very nice, just not my kind of game.
Gate camping ganking really isn't that exciting. Which in my experience was about 75% of the PvP combats I ran into. Otherwise the mobs AI in missions was not very exciting (up to tier 4 combat missions anyway). Its a ok game, but after playing it for a few months it never really grabbed me, and i lived in low sec.
I think there are alot of ways they could improve upon the game, maybe have a different race for example rather then just 4 human cultures etc. Sooner or later i figure they will come out with a "EVE 2" which would be interesting. Meanwhile I don't see slightly improved graphics or the ability to walk outside ones ship as being major expansions.
You want to invite friends over, turn off the computer and share a beer with some in RL. Games are for killing, and EVE provides and excellent platform for that. Socializing is a minor concern......
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Ozmodam belive it or not, is is boring after some time.
You were saying something about risking ur ship/gear/implants.... you must be the one that fly's nightmare or machariel, full officer/faction fitted in some godforgoten low sec running missions, or ratting in enemy controled zone, or just gatecamping in 20bil ship. Just to get feeling of risking something.
You do this ? I dont think so, u fly safe some 200 mil fitted BS/HaC, gating for hours for 5 kills, roaming for some 10 kills more, or misionin some lvl4 missions. When u do this every day, over'n over - it is boring.
But still, its nice game with nice graphic, music sux bigtime, comunity is helpfull, a bit complicated if u are beginer, but overall - nice game.
I played this game for a few months way back and finally quit. Reason one, you'll never be able to compete with those people who've been in the game for more than a year, not even if you end up being in the game for a year. Reason two, the game is repetitive, as in you end up doing the same things over and over. Reason three, after awhile you have to leave safe space to make the money you need to, hence you become the prey of the vultures and miscreants that seem to plague this game and because of reason one, you're defenseless against them.
Now with that being said, it's a good game, not great. The skill over time system sucks. It's the worst way to level I've ever seen and the reason I originally quit. I noticed one day I wasn't going to be able to pilot the ship I just bought til I trained one skill for over 30 days... adios EVE, hello EQ2.
I originally played the game to get my Earth and Beyond fix, which I never did. As of yet there is not a single sci-fi space game that is better than Earth and Beyond was. I have boycotted EA, as many other people I know have, because they took down the game when they were still making money, so they could canabilize its staff for other games.
That's enough of my rant. Try this game, some people like it, but understand most people don't seem to stick around and there's a reason for that. Also I believe the reason that they're so successful getting new subscribers is that they spend more money advertising than nearly any other mmo out there.
Zenren
If you're reading this, you probably need to get some sun.
This is where you went wrong. EVE's harsh death penalty system helps make the gameplay so intense, I thought my heart was gonna beat out my chest the first time I went to 0.0
Have fun going back to EQ clones where you fight all night long pointlessly. Can't make anyone pay a ransom. Can kill a guy and they just rez and come right back. <---- Pointless PVP MMOs is that way (mmo lsting)
So far your post is full of bs and lies. Do you have anything else to add ?
Hey Zenren,
The argument about never being able to compete has been debunked so many times I've lost count. You should read the reasons why your argument is totally bogus, you might gain a new respect for EVE.
Also, I have no idea how much CCP spends on advertizing, but I do know this: The best advertizing in the world may draw someone to EVE originally, but only interesting and engaging gameplay will keep people subscribing month after month, and the fact is, that after so many years EVE is still gaining in # of subscriptions.
You may not like the game and I can understand that, but to be still growing so many years after release, well, maybe CCP is doing something right, ya think?
After more than a year of playing, I still find EVE tosses me new gameplay experiences.
Most of my first year in EVE was spend in 0.0, and I got involved in some amazing fights in the Smash-Roadkill wars.
But I took a few months off for AOC (oof) and when I returned I thought I'd join a nice, well organized, peaceful empire corp.
Within 2 weeks of joining one of our members (with one month of experience) somehow stole from a wreck (allegedly) and then smack talked (one line) one of the more violent and high level Merc Corps who promptly war-dec'd us, demanding an apology and a bunch of ISK to stop the war.
We thought it over, discussed it, and decided it was a great chance to teach our new members a bit about PVP combat and took the fight to them.
Now, I'm not going to kid you, they certainly had the upper hand in the first few fights however we did manage to draw some blood and probably break even in ship losses from a dollar perspective. (and we learned alot from observing their combat techniques against us) The fight (and fun) continues against a corp that has players all with 1-4 years experience, and yet, we can hold our own (well, sort of) despite most of player base being pretty new.
Will we win? No, probably not, but we'll fight the good fight as long as we can, because that's what EVE is really all about, and everyone agreed we've had a ton of fun so far. We've rallied together and dragged a slew of miners/industrialists out of their PVE shells and given them a taste of blood.
EVE is what you make of it, and while I've found it boring at times, in bouncing around I keep finding new things to do and battles to fight. I've busted POS's in Armor tanked Ravens, run in Steath bomber corps that gate camped key enemy pipelines, Battled major alliances and fought along side Titans and Dreadnaughts (and even got doomsdayed once)
Now its empire battles against hardened merc corp.... who knows what else lies ahead this year, but I'm looking forward to finding out.
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New guys can't compete? This guy (http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=844426) says differently.
He got his first kill a day after his trial account ended and he subscribed on a full account. Now, 2 weeks later (that's less than a month after rolling hic character) he has 4 cruiser kills, 5 destroyer kills, and 11 frigate kills. He has lost a total of 4 frigates.
And this guy has chosen one of the more difficult professions, especially for a character so young, solo pirate.
Of course, I doubt this guy spends all his time complaining about how unfair EVE is 'cause noobs can't compete. Sure, he's not going against seasoned vets, but he's already begun a career that is sure to go places!
No offense... that just means you're doing it wrong.
I PVP in a very small group normally... <10 ships and usually <4... we do fine... often engaging twice or more than our own numbers and come away with kills. In the past 2 months I haven't lost a single ship and have gotten over 100 kills doing this. Everything from Battleships to Haulers. In 0.0... low-sec and high-sec.
"A ship-of-war is the best ambassador." - Oliver Cromwell
Eve is a true PvP game. It's not built around a PVE universe. SO IMO it's a top tier PvP game. If you were looking for fluff it's not here. If you were looking for some good PvP it is. I agree the whole risk vs reward thing really adds to the game. The death penalty is brutal sometimes and thus make people think before attacking. This game will make you paranoid if you play it long enough.
I was just qouting from my own experience above. I'm happy so many people resort to name calling and pseudo profanity to express themselves, it really makes your argument more factually sound.
Number one... the four things you end up doing in this game are- Mine, Missions, Craft, and PvP... that's it. How is that different from any other MMO out there? The graphics are good, especially with the new expansion, but the skills over time system still sucks. I will not play this game for that reason alone.
Also I've been in guilds and seen people who've PvPed... the one who wins repeatedly is the one who's been playing longer. If you end up beating another guild with more tenured members, it's because you swarmed them with a million freaking newbs.
The death penatly in this game does suck... I mean really suck. Nothing like losing a ship you've spent a month saving up money for and finding out the insurance doesn't give you crap back, of course if you forget to clone, you might as well just hang up your suspenders and go join the Ogres, 'cause "there aint no comin' back" (that's my crow qoute).
The people who are ranting against me have time on their side. They'll say all this crap because they have an investment in the game and don't want to see the new membership drop, otherwise who will they use as cannonfodder? I mean that qoute about using the war as a lesson in PvP for the new members is priceless. It shows the arrogance and superiority that's rampant in this game. You aint shit if your character isn't at least a 2006 vintage...
So yell and scream and bitch about what I said, but this was, and is, my experience with this game. The reason it's so popular is because the company advertises up the yin yang and most people find it hard to leave after they've invested so much time into the game.
For most people it's like an addict kicking a drug, the only way they'll admit there's a problem is when it's finally to painful to keep doing the drug, otherwise they'll defend it until they either die from it or suffer some kind of consequence that prevents them from continuing.
Is this game any different from any other MMO out there? NO... the mechanics are exactly the same. The skills over time system, the massive death penatly, and the inability to "TRULY" compete with anyone who has been in the game for a significantly longer period of time, is the reason I have not come back, and probably will never come back. My personal opinion, go pick a game that's not so time intensive... this one is really going to keep you from the real world. I personally started playing Shot Online because it gives me an MMO experience, yet I can be done with it in 30 minutes.
Also Earth and Beyond was 10 times funner than Eve... and I still boycot EA because they canceled the game when it was still popular.
Zenren
If you're reading this, you probably need to get some sun.
I started the trial and I just feel like ' why bother? ' after a couple of hours. I guess all those years of online shooters have spoiled me. That's where I've been since the downfall of Ultima Online- about 9 years now. These kinds of games seem absolutely boring to me now. Wonder if I'll feel the same about Darkfall if it ever comes out. Probably.