actully you have to subscribe to start the first month. i would think... but dont matter its a free month so maybe during that month they get it to where the annoying bugs are fixed... We still dont know how long he open beta is. there is no release date yet
Wrong, the month the game came with starts the day of release. Also, the release is the 1st of Feb, read the press release.
actully you have to subscribe to start the first month. i would think... but dont matter its a free month so maybe during that month they get it to where the annoying bugs are fixed... We still dont know how long he open beta is. there is no release date yet
Wrong, the month the game came with starts the day of release. Also, the release is the 1st of Feb, read the press release.
LMAo the game has to go gold BEFORE they start your free month. Open beta wouldnt be fair to people that alreayd bought it if they lost there free month during it. and other people get there free monthw ith out buying it cause of the open beta
I meant to say the game time starts at GOLD, they used the word "release" and I got confused!
LMAo the game has to go gold BEFORE they start your free month. Open beta wouldnt be fair to people that alreayd bought it if they lost there free month during it. and other people get there free monthw ith out buying it cause of the open beta
Fair? What does fair have to do with anything? Is it fair that people who bought the boxed/DVD version of the game won;t get their discs until a month after release?
The mere fact that you can read their Press Release and STILL not know what they are doing says volumes about the way the company communicates..
Here is what I THINK it says or implies:
Character wipe Feb 1
Open Beta Feb 1
Open Beta will run for X time (current opinion is one week)
After Open Beta the one free month starts
But... their communication is typically obtuse so who knows. henrik posted and said there would be an update on the forums shortly..
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actully you have to subscribe to start the first month. i would think... but dont matter its a free month so maybe during that month they get it to where the annoying bugs are fixed... We still dont know how long he open beta is. there is no release date yet
Wrong, the month the game came with starts the day of release. Also, the release is the 1st of Feb, read the press release.
LMAo the game has to go gold BEFORE they start your free month. Open beta wouldnt be fair to people that alreayd bought it if they lost there free month during it. and other people get there free monthw ith out buying it cause of the open beta
I meant to say the game time starts at GOLD, they used the word "release" and I got confused!
o no biggie . i had the extra 50 so. btw im not saying your wrong i think its a mistake if they go gold 2 mondays from now. but people really should be prepare for the gmae to fail if there going to pre order to get into beta and if its a small company. im not saying its going to fail i think they will be ok with 1000 subs if there smart with there money. but there not trying to scam there customers theyd o care about the game but money is the biggiest problem here
They are releasing the game with 1-2 day notice? What about all those people waiting for their discs to arrive? They haven't even sent out the "working copies".
Oh well... all those people who were talking about how good it was to delay the launch and how there was no way they would release the game in this condition now have something to think about...
They are releasing the game with 1-2 day notice? What about all those people waiting for their discs to arrive? They haven't even sent out the "working copies".
Oh well... all those people who were talking about how good it was to delay the launch and how there was no way they would release the game in this condition now have something to think about...
They are releasing the game with 1-2 day notice? What about all those people waiting for their discs to arrive? They haven't even sent out the "working copies".
Oh well... all those people who were talking about how good it was to delay the launch and how there was no way they would release the game in this condition now have something to think about...
So you think Open Beta = Release?
Doesn't matter what he thinks. Starvault said it will be released on Feb. 1st. They said it, not us.
They are releasing the game with 1-2 day notice? What about all those people waiting for their discs to arrive? They haven't even sent out the "working copies".
Oh well... all those people who were talking about how good it was to delay the launch and how there was no way they would release the game in this condition now have something to think about...
So you think Open Beta = Release?
Doesn't matter what he thinks. Starvault said it will be released on Feb. 1st. They said it, not us.
and gold can be up to march before it hits gold. i guess there using doing a release phase but its not tech release your reading into it to much. open beta is not tech release.
actully they said Release phase will begin with an open beta
Originally posted by downtoearth and gold can be up to march before it hits gold. i guess there using doing a release phase but its not tech release your reading into it to much. open beta is not tech release
Please use common sense. The will not have a 30 day open beta. They have to release an incomplete game right now because they don't have any more money to delay it. The open beta will last at the most a week.
Does not change the issue that Starvault lied in their press release, saying its releasing Feb. 1st with all content. Complete lie.
Originally posted by downtoearth and gold can be up to march before it hits gold. i guess there using doing a release phase but its not tech release your reading into it to much. open beta is not tech release
Please use common sense. The will not have a 30 day open beta. They have to release an incomplete game right now because they don't have any more money to delay it. The open beta will last at the most a week.
and when your wrong? then what. as of right now we are just making wild gueses
and when your wrong? then what. as of right now we are just making wild gueses
Using common sense works most of the time. They don't have money so they are releasing a broken/incomplete game, and then having a 30 day open beta? Won't happen.
Originally posted by downtoearth and gold can be up to march before it hits gold. i guess there using doing a release phase but its not tech release your reading into it to much. open beta is not tech release
Please use common sense. The will not have a 30 day open beta. They have to release an incomplete game right now because they don't have any more money to delay it. The open beta will last at the most a week.
and when your wrong? then what?
What about if you're wrong? Just because open beta might happen on the 1st of February doesn't mean it will release in March. The people that are harping on the thing that says release Jan-March, are yall looking at the fact that it isn't releasing in Janurary? Jan-March is just another way of saying Q1 2010. Thats all it is. An estimate. Yall are just arguing about speculation. Its kind of absurd to read how many stipulations that are being added to these arguements that have no basis in any concrete fact.
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and when your wrong? then what. as of right now we are just making wild gueses
Using common sense works most of the time. They don't have money so they are releasing a broken/incomplete game, and then having a 30 day open beta? Won't happen.
Common sense works great!
./shrug some times common sense is wrong. like comon sense would be not to go gold for another 2 months. but that isnt happening
Now this is unprofessional, I'll give you that. No mention of a plan on the length of open beta either, at least they're having one. I'd urge anyone on the fence to take part, as you will see what the game is for free, I highly doubt they will be offering a free trial after the game goes gold.
Maybe they will be smart and have a good month of open beta, I doubt that though.
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Originally posted by downtoearth and gold can be up to march before it hits gold. i guess there using doing a release phase but its not tech release your reading into it to much. open beta is not tech release
Please use common sense. The will not have a 30 day open beta. They have to release an incomplete game right now because they don't have any more money to delay it. The open beta will last at the most a week.
Does not change the issue that Starvault lied in their press release, saying its releasing Feb. 1st with all content. Complete lie.
as long as it snot on there web page sayign that i dont care what they tell the stock market
Now this is unprofessional, I'll give you that. No mention of a plan on the length of open beta either, at least they're having one. I'd urge anyone on the fence to take part, as you will see what the game is for free, I highly doubt they will be offering a free trial after the game goes gold. Maybe they will be smart and have a good month of open beta, I doubt that though.
maybe im trying to get answers out of henrik in irc atm
They should've said "releasing process", as the general consensus is that "gold" status means released. So, the game will not release on February 1st. That's when the Open Beta is supposedly starting. Many OBs go one to two weeks, so one month is not that far-fetched. Until they specify how long the OB will last (probably when it starts), don't start flinging wild accusations the the game will release February 1st. The game will release when it goes gold.
Of course, I said something about this earlier and it's kind of funny that it's partially coming true. In the other thread about the game being delayed, I pointed out SV said "Jan-Mar", which could mean February 1st. Well, they aren't releasing, but they're starting the OB.
I'm going to wait for official updates on the site from now on. Honestly, you're all like muckraking reporters who jump on every little thing this company does.
They should've said "releasing process", as the general consensus is that "gold" status means released. So, the game will not release on February 1st. That's when the Open Beta is supposedly starting. Many OBs go one to two weeks, so one month is not that far-fetched. Until they specify how long the OB will last (probably when it starts), don't start flinging wild accusations the the game will release February 1st. The game will release when it goes gold. Of course, I said something about this earlier and it's kind of funny that it's partially coming true. In the other thread about the game being delayed, I pointed out SV said "Jan-Mar", which could mean February 1st. Well, they aren't releasing, but they're starting the OB. I'm going to wait for official updates on the site from now on. Honestly, you're all like muckraking reporters who jump on every little thing this company does.
My, reading this topic is certainly like wallowing through sludge.
Reading the posts... I can definitely understand the statement: "Our species eat our wounded ones." Many individuals here latch onto anything they believe is a mistake and seem to thrive on it.
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Open Beta appears to be starting on February 1st. This is the beginning of the release process.
However long Open Beta goes, the release of the game will happen, and that is when the game goes gold. Once Gold, pre-orders/buyers will have their 1 month of game time included with the purchase.
The announcement is for stock-holders, and there aims to be another content patch out before Open Beta, or Before Gold status... no clue just yet which.
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It really isn't that hard to understand... if you want to understand.
Give the game a shot and see if you like it. Make an account and log in once you have the newest client.
It will be a good opportunity for people to see what it is like.
o no biggie . i had the extra 50 so. btw im not saying your wrong i think its a mistake if they go gold 2 mondays from now. but people really should be prepare for the gmae to fail if there going to pre order to get into beta and if its a small company. im not saying its going to fail i think they will be ok with 1000 subs if there smart with there money. but there not trying to scam there customers theyd o care about the game but money is the biggiest problem here
1000 subs = 15000 a month income. That's $180,000 per year...
They have 20 employees to pay. They have loans with interest due
The have rent and utilities
They have to pay their billing company... lawyer(s) etc...
Servers.. bandwidth...
They have said they NEED 13,000 subscriptions and that seems a realistic amount to cover the bare minimal costs of operation.
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
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o no biggie . i had the extra 50 so. btw im not saying your wrong i think its a mistake if they go gold 2 mondays from now. but people really should be prepare for the gmae to fail if there going to pre order to get into beta and if its a small company. im not saying its going to fail i think they will be ok with 1000 subs if there smart with there money. but there not trying to scam there customers theyd o care about the game but money is the biggiest problem here
1000 subs = 15000 a month income. That's $180,000 per year...
They have 20 employees to pay. They have loans with interest due
The have rent and utilities
They have to pay their billing company... lawyer(s) etc...
Servers.. bandwidth...
They have said they NEED 13,000 subscriptions and that seems a realistic amount to cover the bare minimal costs of operation.
Not to mention, the game will need a huge influx of cash at launch because it's going to be basically unplayable for most people, and they will need to hire or spend in order to get it working. They can't afford to give out a lot of free days, they are already out of cash.
I read that as the release phase is starting on february 1st. Release phase including Open beta and then once completed the live version of the game.
If you read the whole thing it doesn't sound like the game is going live on the 1st. As gamers we read the word 'release' and crowd out everything else, but that documen't wsn't worded for gamers. it's for stockholders who want to know what stage the game is in and open beta/release is the stage they are in.
About the core features being in the game, they are there. They don't all work 100% but they are there.
About the core features being in the game, they are there. They don't all work 100% but they are there.
That really says it all. The sad thing is, that people getting the core features in the game seem happy, the unfortunate thing is barely 50% of them work at all.
Originally posted by HerculesSAS That really says it all. The sad thing is, that people getting the core features in the game seem happy, the unfortunate thing is barely 50% of them work at all.
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Wrong, the month the game came with starts the day of release. Also, the release is the 1st of Feb, read the press release.
Wrong, the month the game came with starts the day of release. Also, the release is the 1st of Feb, read the press release.
LMAo the game has to go gold BEFORE they start your free month. Open beta wouldnt be fair to people that alreayd bought it if they lost there free month during it. and other people get there free monthw ith out buying it cause of the open beta
I meant to say the game time starts at GOLD, they used the word "release" and I got confused!
Fair? What does fair have to do with anything? Is it fair that people who bought the boxed/DVD version of the game won;t get their discs until a month after release?
The mere fact that you can read their Press Release and STILL not know what they are doing says volumes about the way the company communicates..
Here is what I THINK it says or implies:
Character wipe Feb 1
Open Beta Feb 1
Open Beta will run for X time (current opinion is one week)
After Open Beta the one free month starts
But... their communication is typically obtuse so who knows. henrik posted and said there would be an update on the forums shortly..
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017.
Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
Wrong, the month the game came with starts the day of release. Also, the release is the 1st of Feb, read the press release.
LMAo the game has to go gold BEFORE they start your free month. Open beta wouldnt be fair to people that alreayd bought it if they lost there free month during it. and other people get there free monthw ith out buying it cause of the open beta
I meant to say the game time starts at GOLD, they used the word "release" and I got confused!
o no biggie . i had the extra 50 so. btw im not saying your wrong i think its a mistake if they go gold 2 mondays from now. but people really should be prepare for the gmae to fail if there going to pre order to get into beta and if its a small company. im not saying its going to fail i think they will be ok with 1000 subs if there smart with there money. but there not trying to scam there customers theyd o care about the game but money is the biggiest problem here
So you think Open Beta = Release?
So you think Open Beta = Release?
thats what i was wondering lmao
So you think Open Beta = Release?
Doesn't matter what he thinks. Starvault said it will be released on Feb. 1st. They said it, not us.
So you think Open Beta = Release?
Doesn't matter what he thinks. Starvault said it will be released on Feb. 1st. They said it, not us.
and gold can be up to march before it hits gold. i guess there using doing a release phase but its not tech release your reading into it to much. open beta is not tech release.
actully they said Release phase will begin with an open beta
Please use common sense. The will not have a 30 day open beta. They have to release an incomplete game right now because they don't have any more money to delay it. The open beta will last at the most a week.
Does not change the issue that Starvault lied in their press release, saying its releasing Feb. 1st with all content. Complete lie.
Please use common sense. The will not have a 30 day open beta. They have to release an incomplete game right now because they don't have any more money to delay it. The open beta will last at the most a week.
and when your wrong? then what. as of right now we are just making wild gueses
Using common sense works most of the time. They don't have money so they are releasing a broken/incomplete game, and then having a 30 day open beta? Won't happen.
Common sense works great!
Please use common sense. The will not have a 30 day open beta. They have to release an incomplete game right now because they don't have any more money to delay it. The open beta will last at the most a week.
and when your wrong? then what?
What about if you're wrong? Just because open beta might happen on the 1st of February doesn't mean it will release in March. The people that are harping on the thing that says release Jan-March, are yall looking at the fact that it isn't releasing in Janurary? Jan-March is just another way of saying Q1 2010. Thats all it is. An estimate. Yall are just arguing about speculation. Its kind of absurd to read how many stipulations that are being added to these arguements that have no basis in any concrete fact.
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"Chemistry: 'We do stuff in lab that would be a felony in your garage.'"
The most awesomest after school special T-shirt:
Front: UNO Chemistry Club
Back: /\OH --> Bad Decisions
Using common sense works most of the time. They don't have money so they are releasing a broken/incomplete game, and then having a 30 day open beta? Won't happen.
Common sense works great!
./shrug some times common sense is wrong. like comon sense would be not to go gold for another 2 months. but that isnt happening
Now this is unprofessional, I'll give you that. No mention of a plan on the length of open beta either, at least they're having one. I'd urge anyone on the fence to take part, as you will see what the game is for free, I highly doubt they will be offering a free trial after the game goes gold.
Maybe they will be smart and have a good month of open beta, I doubt that though.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Please use common sense. The will not have a 30 day open beta. They have to release an incomplete game right now because they don't have any more money to delay it. The open beta will last at the most a week.
Does not change the issue that Starvault lied in their press release, saying its releasing Feb. 1st with all content. Complete lie.
as long as it snot on there web page sayign that i dont care what they tell the stock market
maybe im trying to get answers out of henrik in irc atm
They should've said "releasing process", as the general consensus is that "gold" status means released. So, the game will not release on February 1st. That's when the Open Beta is supposedly starting. Many OBs go one to two weeks, so one month is not that far-fetched. Until they specify how long the OB will last (probably when it starts), don't start flinging wild accusations the the game will release February 1st. The game will release when it goes gold.
Of course, I said something about this earlier and it's kind of funny that it's partially coming true. In the other thread about the game being delayed, I pointed out SV said "Jan-Mar", which could mean February 1st. Well, they aren't releasing, but they're starting the OB.
I'm going to wait for official updates on the site from now on. Honestly, you're all like muckraking reporters who jump on every little thing this company does.
yep.
My, reading this topic is certainly like wallowing through sludge.
Reading the posts... I can definitely understand the statement: "Our species eat our wounded ones." Many individuals here latch onto anything they believe is a mistake and seem to thrive on it.
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Open Beta appears to be starting on February 1st. This is the beginning of the release process.
However long Open Beta goes, the release of the game will happen, and that is when the game goes gold. Once Gold, pre-orders/buyers will have their 1 month of game time included with the purchase.
The announcement is for stock-holders, and there aims to be another content patch out before Open Beta, or Before Gold status... no clue just yet which.
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It really isn't that hard to understand... if you want to understand.
Give the game a shot and see if you like it. Make an account and log in once you have the newest client.
It will be a good opportunity for people to see what it is like.
1000 subs = 15000 a month income. That's $180,000 per year...
They have 20 employees to pay. They have loans with interest due
The have rent and utilities
They have to pay their billing company... lawyer(s) etc...
Servers.. bandwidth...
They have said they NEED 13,000 subscriptions and that seems a realistic amount to cover the bare minimal costs of operation.
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017.
Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
1000 subs = 15000 a month income. That's $180,000 per year...
They have 20 employees to pay. They have loans with interest due
The have rent and utilities
They have to pay their billing company... lawyer(s) etc...
Servers.. bandwidth...
They have said they NEED 13,000 subscriptions and that seems a realistic amount to cover the bare minimal costs of operation.
Not to mention, the game will need a huge influx of cash at launch because it's going to be basically unplayable for most people, and they will need to hire or spend in order to get it working. They can't afford to give out a lot of free days, they are already out of cash.
I read that as the release phase is starting on february 1st. Release phase including Open beta and then once completed the live version of the game.
If you read the whole thing it doesn't sound like the game is going live on the 1st. As gamers we read the word 'release' and crowd out everything else, but that documen't wsn't worded for gamers. it's for stockholders who want to know what stage the game is in and open beta/release is the stage they are in.
About the core features being in the game, they are there. They don't all work 100% but they are there.
My sig is just as logical as your posts are
That really says it all. The sad thing is, that people getting the core features in the game seem happy, the unfortunate thing is barely 50% of them work at all.
Yep it does, hard to argue with that.
It appears StarVault is setting a new standard in the industry on how not to launch a MMORPG.