The main reason SWG:ToR will fail in the long run.

Teala

Originally posted by Lexia

And the same crap will be posted and nothing will be done. I have my opinion on things, but I'll get banned for it so i'll keep them to myself for now. I know what you are Teala like most girls won't say it, but I know.

Oh really...please enlighten me.

Lexia

Why should I? So I can get a warning because someone said don't feed the trolls and obivously their not pointing out anyone and made the clear, but obivously people can't read.

Ryukan

I'll admit I will end up pre-ordering it before release and playing it for the first month, it isn't much different than buying a single player game and playing through it in a week or two. Well short of getting into the beta test and then finding out I don't like it (it would have to really suck hehe), in which case I wouldn't pre-order it or buy it.

Beanpuie

Originally posted by Teala

All we have to do is look at the Star Wars movies to find the answer.    Episodes 1, 2, 3, and 6.   Lucas took full control over every aspect of those movies and look at how bad they turned out.   OMG...they sucked.  Sorry, but they did!   In fact the episodes 1,2,3 are some of the worst examples of movie making ever seen on the big screen.   Poor casting, poor writing, horrible story telling and the acting was atrocious!   I mean come on who cast this picture?  Lucas!  He hand picked all the actors. 

Oh and don't tell me it was made for children.    LOL!  That is the biggest bunch of BS ever.    After episode V: Empire Strikes Back, Lucas took what could have been a great story and turned it into a franchise to rake in as much money as possible.  

Why do I bring this up?

Because Lucas and Lucas Arts have a lot at stake here.   If you think BioWare has free reign in how this game is made...think again.   I can see Lucas's paws all over this game.

WTF....  seriously,

C'mon everytime i see your sig, your posts your avatar i end up expecting something insightful or meaningful..

instead you made a thread just to rant to this extent?

I may agree with your concerns in essence, but this is close to borderline trolling with the large amount of "why TOR will fail" threads blanketing these forums, and whats worse..they are Friggen more informative than what you threw together in here.

The hell Teala..What the hell.....

Teala

Originally posted by Lexia

Why should I? So I can get a warning because someone said don't feed the trolls and obivously their not pointing out anyone and made the clear, but obivously people can't read.

Because you opened this can of worms.   So know serve them - even if they are in the form of a PM.

Domenicus

This thread is having much more attention than it deserve... I am very sorry to say that the OP lacks the minimal logical skills to start any kind of discussion... First she states that the game will fail because the movies are bad... When the people point to him that this is not a very logic conclusion, she states that the problem is that we dont have much information about the game to say if it will suceed or fail (he JUST forgot the very title of his own ´thread´ :-) ).

Now the OP jumps from a point of view to another, without any kind of loyalty to logic... She is just babbling and we are feeding her... Not that I think that this game will be a success or  a failure.. I just dont think it can be discussed in here due to the very shallow and mutant flow of this discussion, mostly because the own OP who is totally lost inside of herself, trying to defend a point of view that or she doesnt really have or  she doesnt know how to express it... 

Ryukan

You will want to go replace every instance of 'he' in your post to 'she'... hehe :P

Domenicus

Originally posted by Ryukan

You will want to go replace every instance of 'he' in your post to 'she'... hehe :P

Thanks man, I just did it, lol...

Sovrath

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Originally posted by Sovrath

er, so I guess see Heerobya's post with quotes and stuff.

I didn't see any mention of the business model in that.

The other bits about PvP, crafting, and end game were extremely vague.

I think I misunderstood what you meant by business model. Which is pretty stupid on my part as there is no other way to take that.

 

sorry.

As far as "the other bits" (which is what I was referring to) you are correct, they are vague. but they are there. It is now Bioware's responsibility to make good on what they have mentioned.

Though to be honest, my gut tells me that things are going to be somewhere in the middle from what players expect to worst case scenario.

For instance, they say open world but I am not expecting vanguard or Lineage 2 open world. But not Aion. Probably more like LOTRO.

in any case you get the idea.

maskedweasel

Originally posted by Ryukan

You will want to go replace every instance of 'he' in your post to 'she'... hehe :P

That has yet to be proven.  The poster didn't specifically say it was a "she" and if it had we don't have proof. Sure screen shots and videos might be given, but we won't have proof until it releases what sex "she" really is.  We haven't even be given a release date.

 

Vulnero87

Originally posted by Domenicus

This thread is having much more attention than it deserve... I am very sorry to say that the OP lacks the minimal logical skills to start any kind of discussion... First she states that the game will fail because the movies are bad... When the people point to him that this is not a very logic conclusion, she states that the problem is that we dont have much information about the game to say if it will suceed or fail (he JUST forgot the very title of his own ´thread´ :-) ).

Now the OP jumps from a point of view to another, without any kind of loyalty to logic... She is just babbling and we are feeding her... Not that I think that this game will be a success or  a failure.. I just dont think it can be discussed in here due to the very shallow and mutant flow of this discussion, mostly because the own OP who is totally lost inside of herself, trying to defend a point of view that or she doesnt really have or  she doesnt know how to express it... 

Sad part is that he's 100% correct.  If your going to make a argument, why not stick with it?  Kind of makes you look stupid, if you keep changing your opinion.  We barely know anything about the game, so how about we don't make any conclusions until it's actually out?  Play the game, then make your assumption.

vonslasha

i love you Teala preach on! plz tell me your over 18  and really a women. AND HAN DID SHOOT FIRST!!

Teala

Originally posted by vonslasha

i love you Teala preach on! plz tell me your over 18  and really a women. AND HAN DID SHOOT FIRST!!

Yes I really am female.   Yes I am over 18.  Yes Han did shoot first and would have shot first - simple because he was that kind of guy.  ^_^

maskedweasel

Originally posted by Teala

Originally posted by vonslasha

i love you Teala preach on! plz tell me your over 18  and really a women. AND HAN DID SHOOT FIRST!!

Yes I really am female.   Yes I am over 18.  Yes Han did shoot first and would have shot first - simple because he was that kind of guy.  ^_^

I dunno about all THAT Teala, will you have a booth at E3 where you'll have a demo?

Teala

Originally posted by maskedweasel

Originally posted by Teala

Originally posted by vonslasha

i love you Teala preach on! plz tell me your over 18  and really a women. AND HAN DID SHOOT FIRST!!

Yes I really am female.   Yes I am over 18.  Yes Han did shoot first and would have shot first - simple because he was that kind of guy.  ^_^

I dunno about all THAT Teala, will you have a booth at E3 where you'll have a demo?

And I would be at E3 for what reason?   I am just a gamer.  I have nothing to do with the industry other than  I love gaming and write a blog.  

Rohn

In answer to the OP, who gets to define "failure"?  You?

GTwander

pepsi1028

Originally posted by Teala  

After episode V: Empire Strikes Back, Lucas took what could have been a great story and turned it into a franchise to rake in as much money as possible. 

Isn't the point to make it into a franchise and rake in the cash? I think Mr. Lucas succeeded.

Teala

We should try to at least stay on topic.   At least a wee bit.   Doncha think?

eisenryu

Originally posted by Teala

We should try to at least stay on topic.   At least a wee bit.   Doncha think?

Finally. A voice of reason.

But if we are going to get off topic lets discuss something actually important. Whatever game you guys play, Im better than you at it. Case closed.

GTwander

  Aww, there could be levels, and you could get abilities on cooldown, like thread killer, 72 hour cooldown, lets you have the last post in a thread, and locks it regasrdless if your a moderator.

Someone run with this, make it happen, if there was a forum that actually gave xp, had a real pvp system ect, we could weed out the bad trolls, and only allow the super cool experienced trolls post in the regular forums...

probably shouldn't really suggest this. Sorry in advance if this keeps this post going even longer.

 

There already was one called flamewarsforums.com, with themes like fanboi vs haters and some weird rating systems, but one of the users got super butt-hurt and hacked the admin account and messed things up over and over. Terrorist stuff really, and that's all your basically asking for with such a thing. It's no longer up, and no doubt the owner of the site can't even get online anymore without being harrassed by said jagoff hacker.

maskedweasel

Originally posted by Teala

Originally posted by maskedweasel

Originally posted by Teala

Originally posted by vonslasha

i love you Teala preach on! plz tell me your over 18  and really a women. AND HAN DID SHOOT FIRST!!

Yes I really am female.   Yes I am over 18.  Yes Han did shoot first and would have shot first - simple because he was that kind of guy.  ^_^

I dunno about all THAT Teala, will you have a booth at E3 where you'll have a demo?

And I would be at E3 for what reason?   I am just a gamer.  I have nothing to do with the industry other than  I love gaming and write a blog.  

I was making an indirect comparison between rash assumptions based on information given from a developer by way of making an assumption on you as a person.  Most people don't believe information on a game until they have a chance to try it, so I put your whole SEXUALITY on trial.  

 

Though it would be kind of creepy if you did have a hands on demo at E3........

Teala

So do any of you really think that Lucas does not have a say in this game?  Here is a game that potentially has access to thousands if not millions of Star Wars fans - and you do not think or believe that Lucas himself is not involved?  Really?

Burnthebed

Ever watch Redlettermedia's reviews of Episodes 1 and 2? Some of the funniest, and most appropriate reviews ever.

Each are like 70 minutes long and pick the movies apart perfectly! Can't wait for his episode 3 review

eisenryu

Originally posted by Morgaren

Originally posted by eisenryu

Originally posted by maskedweasel

Originally posted by eisenryu

Wow you guys are still going with this? This thread no longer has anything to do with the game. This is a thread of one troll trying to outtroll another troll.

Maybe it would be better if there were troll teams or if they had their troll powers unite?  It would be like when transformers get together and make one really big transformer.

I agree. There should be a separate section for troll warfare on the forums.

 

  Aww, there could be levels, and you could get abilities on cooldown, like thread killer, 72 hour cooldown, lets you have the last post in a thread, and locks it regasrdless if your a moderator.

Someone run with this, make it happen, if there was a forum that actually gave xp, had a real pvp system ect, we could weed out the bad trolls, and only allow the super cool experienced trolls post in the regular forums...

probably shouldn't really suggest this. Sorry in advance if this keeps this post going even longer.

Dont worry bro. This post will keep going until people realize that the game hasnt been released yet and nothing is conclusive. Considering, the overall IQ of the people in this thread is about 346, if i wasnt here it would be about 12. I kid, but seriously.