Removing anonymity would maybe (and this is a reach) fix one problem and create a whole slew of others. Plus, anonymity protects my medieval experience, thank you.
Meh just give people a global name like in City of Heroes or Champions Online. That way, youll know who is who o.o I would definitely not play a game where I have to put my ID or something like that -.- Id very much prefer having a global handle which people can mark for their own viewing! That way, I can mark people low and have it pop up beside their characters name when I see them.
If it s a troll? Mark them as a troll so you know next time. Or idk...Lowering their rating makes their char names appear red for you (all their chars) and then that way, youll be able to keep track on who is the d00d who ninjas and who is the one that joins your team and is fun to play with.
Edit : I dont mean it always has to say L3g0las@Caitlyn like how they do it in CO. They could just make global handles invisible/have global friends list like in CoX and lowering/increasing their rating will change the persons char name color by a bit in chats. This feature was very useful in CoX when there was this one noob who keeps getting teams killed with various different chars and I marked him with one star to remember and I never had to deal with him again @_@
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I too like most others here hink this is a bad idea, but I do agree something needs to be done to stop those kinda players. I think that a better way is to hired a team of chat regulators, that have the power to issue temp chat bans to those people. The bans could increase for each offence that person does. Also you could make the chat bans last game play time not RL time. That way if someone got a 2 day ban, they would have to play 48 hours in game before being able to chat again. They could also just give more options to the report a person options if the game can't support full time chat regulators. Either way as long as those kinds of bans were in place players would be far less likely to act childish.
P.S. Oh I forgot to add the chat bans would be for all forms of chat in game, even guild chat or pms
I put "I don't give a damn because I don't have the internet."
Hey, someone had to.
"I have only two out of my company and 20 out of some other company. We need support, but it is almost suicide to try to get it here as we are swept by machine gun fire and a constant barrage is on us. I have no one on my left and only a few on my right. I will hold." (First Lieutenant Clifton B. Cates, US Marine Corps, Soissons, 19 July 1918)
There is not more or less sacrifice to losing the anonymity than from attending or participating any other sort of function, etc. What others due because of it is still goverened by law.
Make folks use one character only then they have to live with their actions. (let them roll any xp learned into a new class if they don't like the one they chose so they don't lose all the time they've invested). Giving away personal info is a bad way to go
People troll to get a response. If someone has a mild response, like "f u leave me alone", that's funny. If someone has a major response, like "I'm going to get you banned from the game or kicked from your guild", that's hilarious. And if someone has a response of "I'm going to contact people you know in real life to tell them that you were mean to me in a video game", that's pants-pissingly hysterical.
The only way in which you could even pretend that lack of anonymity can work as a deterrant to trolling is if you intended to make credible threats of bodily harm. If that's what you intend to do in response to trolls, you better l2jnoob. (learn to jail)
No company is going to open themselves up to lawsuits that will surely follow because someone got their identity stolen/ass beat because of their policy of *not* protecting their customers' privacy. You don't even need to *intentionally* be an asshat to draw the attention of psychos and e-thugs. I think Blizzard learned the hard way that mandatory RealID isn't going to fly.
I wouldn't mind a system like Cryptic has where all your characters on an account have the same @handle, so you can't be a douche on one character without the rest of your characters being blacklisted by the community.
Lol OP, blizzard tried that and you see what happened to them. They got called up to capital hill to explain to congress why. Only after they got the initial phone call did they back of from that idea.
All I can say is learn to grow a think skin, if somebody uses names on you in game big deal.
I for one don't want some nut job knowing my name doing a google search on me and showing up at my house because he is unhappy or wants to grief me. But then I would show him the business end of my AR15.
I voted that anonymity is good. I'm all for role playing and keeping players from being cruel or overly disruptive to other players, but security is top priority in my book. There are plenty of ways to keep players in check that don't involve a breach in personal security, in my opinion. The only players that would be using the lack of anonymity to their benefit are the asshats you speak of. And unfortunately, those are the only ones you will not be able to deter from acting that way, because it's already obvious they don't give a shit or they wouldn't act that way in the first place, in my opinion.
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As much as I fantacize beating the crap out of a ganker or troll, and as much as I love the end of Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back for bringing that fantasy to screen, taking anonymity away would probably have the opposite effect. You would probably have guys getting pissed that they're being beaten fair and square in PvP, getting a couple buddies together to roll the person that did it.
I understand why you say this but its still very BAD idea becouse im one of those who always act very social and never do anything that offend others or can see day of light so real name bad idea.
Im for privacy if i need to play with my real name i would not play that game.
Becouse some douchebags act like idiots thats not my problem i just set them on ignore or i never reply.
I play sinds '99 free for all pvp mmos and most with full loot ive seen my share of idiots douchebags and morons but ive learn from beginning never reply if people can't act normal or have any social skills.
So in 11 years ive played now ive maybe one or two times reported someone but mainly totally ignore them and im fine with this they can't hurt me or get under my skin.
Battle net or integrated facebook or something like that i avoid like the plague noway i gonne play with real name becouse some idiots smacktalk.
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009..... In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
The industry needs a mix. In some types of games, real names work amazingly and really help community.
But anonymity is one of the things that allows a game to fully "release" the player from the real world, which is an important element of entertainment (especially with certain forms of games.)
It seems like competitive vs. cooperative is a very large factor in which games strike me as "good as anonymous" vs. "good as real name". I could very easily imagine real names working perfectly in a game like ATITD, but they wouldn't be a good idea in something like Darkfall.
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Anonymity is a very very good thing. The only people who'd be looking up other people their real adresses and phone numbers are exactly the guys naming themselves "XxXuberpwngodXxX".
What I would like to see are account-linked family names. When you create an account you have to pick a name for that account. Any characters you create in the game share that name as their surname. So you can't be a dick on an alt and then expect your main to get away from it.
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Anonymity is a very very good thing. The only people who'd be looking up other people their real adresses and phone numbers are exactly the guys naming themselves "XxXuberpwngodXxX".
What I would like to see are account-linked family names. When you create an account you have to pick a name for that account. Any characters you create in the game share that name as their surname. So you can't be a dick on an alt and then expect your main to get away from it.
Yeah that could work. By the way im not the type of person who's going to go out and find someone and beat them up because of what they did in a video game that made me mad. I just think people are so rude and disrespectful to others in games now days. It's out of control. Something needs to be done.
What I would like to see are account-linked family names. When you create an account you have to pick a name for that account. Any characters you create in the game share that name as their surname. So you can't be a dick on an alt and then expect your main to get away from it.
That could be a good ideea.. I hate the "2 names on a char" thing that some games use, but if it can be hidden (only shown in Details, or something like that) I'm all for it.
But really, the answer for bad community is not to take away the privacy, but to increase the individual education in schools/homes.
This has nothing to do with games, and everything to do with education.
Anonymity is a very very good thing. The only people who'd be looking up other people their real adresses and phone numbers are exactly the guys naming themselves "XxXuberpwngodXxX".
What I would like to see are account-linked family names. When you create an account you have to pick a name for that account. Any characters you create in the game share that name as their surname. So you can't be a dick on an alt and then expect your main to get away from it.
Besides, it's not like there's a single system that can't be outplayed.
Even with real names I can just tell the system that my name is Mickey Mouse and that my credit card happens to be registered on another name. There's plenty of kids using the a credit card from one of their parents, possibly not even sharing a surname.
Hell, what's to prevent me from giving the name of a random person I happen to not like at all and acting like a dick in-game under his name?
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There is no reason to remove anonymity. Most games have an ignor many who get hurt feelings over words fail to use it. Bottom line is you don't have to let rude behavior in a video game get to you.
Man up and stop being bothered by every troll or ninja that joins your group. I promise you are much better off with your identity kept privite. The things people can get to, information wise, with just a bit of knowledge is scary, and I've seen it happen.
Stop getting offended by everything and just leave your group or take it up with a guild officer if it occurs there.
When I play games that are not WoW I generally dont notice a major amount of asshatery going on so I really dont think this degree of change is necessary.
I'm ok if they remove anonymity. I'm not scared of others and I'm not one to say something that doesn't need to be said.
It all comes down to this;
Anonymity is a shield for the corrupt and a crutch for the everyone else.
I'm guessing you're not an attractive female.
Either that or you enjoy being stalked.
Are women who are sexually assaulted corrupt, or just leaning on a crutch? I'm a little confused which one they qualify as, so I can tell the ones I know who had bad things happent o them which way it was their fault.
I'm ok if they remove anonymity. I'm not scared of others and I'm not one to say something that doesn't need to be said.
It all comes down to this;
Anonymity is a shield for the corrupt and a crutch for the everyone else.
do you have a family (son/wife/daughter.. not parents)? probably not
most parents would agree that it is 100% a must have to have vital information private
i don't need some nut job nerd raging and shooting my house up because he dies in a game, think that shit don't happen, go google incidents
or for that matter the pedobear playing free realms with my kid, figuring out his name and paying him a visit
be less narrow minded on your reasoning, theres more depth then the apparent
Narrow minded would be making false assumptions about me based on your own fear of others. The exact reason why my quote rings true.
Yes, I have a son, parents and a brother and sister. That pedobear playing free realms with your kid can only do so becuase of the Anonymity that you allow him to have. I would consider it narrow mindend to settle for the easy way out, to brush away something new becuase it's all you know or the better solution might be a little scary to you.
Theres no depth there, just fear of something new.
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##Fail Thread Title of 2011 Originally posted by daveospice "this game looks like crap?"
If I'm not mistaken one of the GM's posted their name on the forums and within minutes someone had posted his information, including his address and (I think even) his SS number.
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Removing anonymity would maybe (and this is a reach) fix one problem and create a whole slew of others. Plus, anonymity protects my medieval experience, thank you.
Meh just give people a global name like in City of Heroes or Champions Online. That way, youll know who is who o.o I would definitely not play a game where I have to put my ID or something like that -.- Id very much prefer having a global handle which people can mark for their own viewing! That way, I can mark people low and have it pop up beside their characters name when I see them.
If it s a troll? Mark them as a troll so you know next time. Or idk...Lowering their rating makes their char names appear red for you (all their chars) and then that way, youll be able to keep track on who is the d00d who ninjas and who is the one that joins your team and is fun to play with.
Edit : I dont mean it always has to say L3g0las@Caitlyn like how they do it in CO. They could just make global handles invisible/have global friends list like in CoX and lowering/increasing their rating will change the persons char name color by a bit in chats. This feature was very useful in CoX when there was this one noob who keeps getting teams killed with various different chars and I marked him with one star to remember and I never had to deal with him again @_@
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I too like most others here hink this is a bad idea, but I do agree something needs to be done to stop those kinda players. I think that a better way is to hired a team of chat regulators, that have the power to issue temp chat bans to those people. The bans could increase for each offence that person does. Also you could make the chat bans last game play time not RL time. That way if someone got a 2 day ban, they would have to play 48 hours in game before being able to chat again. They could also just give more options to the report a person options if the game can't support full time chat regulators. Either way as long as those kinds of bans were in place players would be far less likely to act childish.
P.S. Oh I forgot to add the chat bans would be for all forms of chat in game, even guild chat or pms
I put "I don't give a damn because I don't have the internet."
Hey, someone had to.
"I have only two out of my company and 20 out of some other company. We need support, but it is almost suicide to try to get it here as we are swept by machine gun fire and a constant barrage is on us. I have no one on my left and only a few on my right. I will hold." (First Lieutenant Clifton B. Cates, US Marine Corps, Soissons, 19 July 1918)
There is not more or less sacrifice to losing the anonymity than from attending or participating any other sort of function, etc. What others due because of it is still goverened by law.
Make folks use one character only then they have to live with their actions. (let them roll any xp learned into a new class if they don't like the one they chose so they don't lose all the time they've invested). Giving away personal info is a bad way to go
What part of "lolumadbro" don't you understand?
People troll to get a response. If someone has a mild response, like "f u leave me alone", that's funny. If someone has a major response, like "I'm going to get you banned from the game or kicked from your guild", that's hilarious. And if someone has a response of "I'm going to contact people you know in real life to tell them that you were mean to me in a video game", that's pants-pissingly hysterical.
The only way in which you could even pretend that lack of anonymity can work as a deterrant to trolling is if you intended to make credible threats of bodily harm. If that's what you intend to do in response to trolls, you better l2jnoob. (learn to jail)
This ideea is so bad, that I just wanted to vote and closed the thread... and afterwards, I opened it again, just to say: BAD IDEEA!
Horrible, horrible idea.
No company is going to open themselves up to lawsuits that will surely follow because someone got their identity stolen/ass beat because of their policy of *not* protecting their customers' privacy. You don't even need to *intentionally* be an asshat to draw the attention of psychos and e-thugs. I think Blizzard learned the hard way that mandatory RealID isn't going to fly.
I wouldn't mind a system like Cryptic has where all your characters on an account have the same @handle, so you can't be a douche on one character without the rest of your characters being blacklisted by the community.
Lol OP, blizzard tried that and you see what happened to them. They got called up to capital hill to explain to congress why. Only after they got the initial phone call did they back of from that idea.
All I can say is learn to grow a think skin, if somebody uses names on you in game big deal.
I for one don't want some nut job knowing my name doing a google search on me and showing up at my house because he is unhappy or wants to grief me. But then I would show him the business end of my AR15.
I voted that anonymity is good. I'm all for role playing and keeping players from being cruel or overly disruptive to other players, but security is top priority in my book. There are plenty of ways to keep players in check that don't involve a breach in personal security, in my opinion. The only players that would be using the lack of anonymity to their benefit are the asshats you speak of. And unfortunately, those are the only ones you will not be able to deter from acting that way, because it's already obvious they don't give a shit or they wouldn't act that way in the first place, in my opinion.
Vault-Tec analysts have concluded that the odds of worldwide nuclear armaggeddon this decade are 17,143,762... to 1.
As much as I fantacize beating the crap out of a ganker or troll, and as much as I love the end of Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back for bringing that fantasy to screen, taking anonymity away would probably have the opposite effect. You would probably have guys getting pissed that they're being beaten fair and square in PvP, getting a couple buddies together to roll the person that did it.
It cuts both ways.
I understand why you say this but its still very BAD idea becouse im one of those who always act very social and never do anything that offend others or can see day of light so real name bad idea.
Im for privacy if i need to play with my real name i would not play that game.
Becouse some douchebags act like idiots thats not my problem i just set them on ignore or i never reply.
I play sinds '99 free for all pvp mmos and most with full loot ive seen my share of idiots douchebags and morons but ive learn from beginning never reply if people can't act normal or have any social skills.
So in 11 years ive played now ive maybe one or two times reported someone but mainly totally ignore them and im fine with this they can't hurt me or get under my skin.
Battle net or integrated facebook or something like that i avoid like the plague noway i gonne play with real name becouse some idiots smacktalk.
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....
In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
Voted Good.
The industry needs a mix. In some types of games, real names work amazingly and really help community.
But anonymity is one of the things that allows a game to fully "release" the player from the real world, which is an important element of entertainment (especially with certain forms of games.)
It seems like competitive vs. cooperative is a very large factor in which games strike me as "good as anonymous" vs. "good as real name". I could very easily imagine real names working perfectly in a game like ATITD, but they wouldn't be a good idea in something like Darkfall.
"What is truly revealing is his implication that believing something to be true is the same as it being true. [continue]" -John Oliver
Anonymity is a very very good thing. The only people who'd be looking up other people their real adresses and phone numbers are exactly the guys naming themselves "XxXuberpwngodXxX".
What I would like to see are account-linked family names. When you create an account you have to pick a name for that account. Any characters you create in the game share that name as their surname. So you can't be a dick on an alt and then expect your main to get away from it.
We are the bunny.
Resistance is futile.
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Yeah that could work. By the way im not the type of person who's going to go out and find someone and beat them up because of what they did in a video game that made me mad. I just think people are so rude and disrespectful to others in games now days. It's out of control. Something needs to be done.
That could be a good ideea.. I hate the "2 names on a char" thing that some games use, but if it can be hidden (only shown in Details, or something like that) I'm all for it.
But really, the answer for bad community is not to take away the privacy, but to increase the individual education in schools/homes.
This has nothing to do with games, and everything to do with education.
can be outplayed by creating 2 accounts
Pi*1337/100 = 42
If they want to pay twice the subscription fee.
Besides, it's not like there's a single system that can't be outplayed.
Even with real names I can just tell the system that my name is Mickey Mouse and that my credit card happens to be registered on another name. There's plenty of kids using the a credit card from one of their parents, possibly not even sharing a surname.
Hell, what's to prevent me from giving the name of a random person I happen to not like at all and acting like a dick in-game under his name?
We are the bunny.
Resistance is futile.
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(")("),,(")("),(")(")
There is no reason to remove anonymity. Most games have an ignor many who get hurt feelings over words fail to use it. Bottom line is you don't have to let rude behavior in a video game get to you.
I'm ok if they remove anonymity. I'm not scared of others and I'm not one to say something that doesn't need to be said.
It all comes down to this;
Anonymity is a shield for the corrupt and a crutch for everyone else.
##Best SWTOR of 2011
Posted by I_Return - SWTOR - "Forget the UI the characters and all ofhe nitpicking bullshit" "Greatest MMO Ever Created"
##Fail Thread Title of 2011
Originally posted by daveospice
"this game looks like crap?"
Man up and stop being bothered by every troll or ninja that joins your group. I promise you are much better off with your identity kept privite. The things people can get to, information wise, with just a bit of knowledge is scary, and I've seen it happen.
Stop getting offended by everything and just leave your group or take it up with a guild officer if it occurs there.
When I play games that are not WoW I generally dont notice a major amount of asshatery going on so I really dont think this degree of change is necessary.
I'm guessing you're not an attractive female.
Either that or you enjoy being stalked.
Are women who are sexually assaulted corrupt, or just leaning on a crutch? I'm a little confused which one they qualify as, so I can tell the ones I know who had bad things happent o them which way it was their fault.
Narrow minded would be making false assumptions about me based on your own fear of others. The exact reason why my quote rings true.
Yes, I have a son, parents and a brother and sister. That pedobear playing free realms with your kid can only do so becuase of the Anonymity that you allow him to have. I would consider it narrow mindend to settle for the easy way out, to brush away something new becuase it's all you know or the better solution might be a little scary to you.
Theres no depth there, just fear of something new.
##Best SWTOR of 2011
Posted by I_Return - SWTOR - "Forget the UI the characters and all ofhe nitpicking bullshit" "Greatest MMO Ever Created"
##Fail Thread Title of 2011
Originally posted by daveospice
"this game looks like crap?"
Didn't Blizzard already try this?
If I'm not mistaken one of the GM's posted their name on the forums and within minutes someone had posted his information, including his address and (I think even) his SS number.
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