It just doesn't feel that way to me. There are a lot of established systems that have things which they can and will improve, but I see a laid foundation with some good ground work. Sure, the hero engine is kind of garbage, which is where your clones come from. But, I really don't think SWTOR could afford to let the game fall below a certain point. I don't see them as not giving a crap. I see a company that has made a lot of hurdles to get this game where it is right now, and I see them busting it out to work through things and fix issues. I don't think I will ever agree with you and that video poster guy about it. Flaws? Yes. Don't give a crap? Highly unlikely. If we see a year go by before patch 1.3 comes out, that would be not giving a crap. Fixing bugs every single week is not my view of "we don't give a crap."
think you are looking at the don't give a crap statement wrong.. of course they want ot make money so of course bug fixes and patches will come. It's there view and attention to detail on how everything is put together. How lazy everything feels put together how reflections are static and don't actually reflect the surrounding area(this REALLY is annoying to me I don't know why) how weather is static and if it rains here guess what it ALWAYS rains here. How you can walk through areas Dromund Kaas and one quest you tag sith acolytes guess what all the acolytes use the same model.. look around almost every slectable npc in dromund that is labeled citizen looks the same I mean really with this much money and time put into a game like this I expect a little attention to detail here and there... now like you said not everyone feels this way but to me I;m big on the "little things" if you will and to me it shows how much time and thought a company put into their product.
It just doesn't feel that way to me. There are a lot of established systems that have things which they can and will improve, but I see a laid foundation with some good ground work. Sure, the hero engine is kind of garbage, which is where your clones come from. But, I really don't think SWTOR could afford to let the game fall below a certain point. I don't see them as not giving a crap. I see a company that has made a lot of hurdles to get this game where it is right now, and I see them busting it out to work through things and fix issues. I don't think I will ever agree with you and that video poster guy about it. Flaws? Yes. Don't give a crap? Highly unlikely. If we see a year go by before patch 1.3 comes out, that would be not giving a crap. Fixing bugs every single week is not my view of "we don't give a crap."
think you are looking at the don't give a crap statement wrong.. of course they want ot make money so of course bug fixes and patches will come. It's there view and attention to detail on how everything is put together. How lazy everything feels put together how reflections are static and don't actually reflect the surrounding area(this REALLY is annoying to me I don't know why) how weather is static and if it rains here guess what it ALWAYS rains here. How you can walk through areas Dromund Kaas and one quest you tag sith acolytes guess what all the acolytes use the same model.. look around almost every slectable npc in dromund that is labeled citizen looks the same I mean really with this much money and time put into a game like this I expect a little attention to detail here and there... now like you said not everyone feels this way but to me I;m big on the "little things" if you will and to me it shows how much time and thought a company put into their product.
You know the engine actually had weather cycles in it and Bioware went through a little extra effort to take them out. They said that weather seemed to interfere with the quality of cutscenes. Personally I think this was some work they should have spent elsewhere and left weather cycles in. But, I digress. They care, but they are fumbling around in the dark on some things, so afraid of anything that will impede the player's impression of their class story. It's rookie season at Bioware. Repeated models? I think it's a hero engine limitation of performance vs unique models. I could be wrong though, but like I said, it is their rookie year.
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I've been ranting on about this game ever since my extensive beta experience. In general, what one experiences in beta is what they experience on the live servers. However, I broke down and decided to give it another try (because of guildmate pressure).
So I installed the game and started playing. Again, the story was pretty entertaining at first. However, after a few days, I couldn't deal with all the useless "run here, run there, come back, run here, deliver this, come back" bullcrap. Most of my playtime seemed to be just running along these boring paths.
My guildies agreed that the questing becomes boring as heck. So they had pretty much leveled up via PvP. Okay. "I'll try that."
So we queue our group for PvP. It's a beatdown. We pillaged just about every Void Star, Huttball, and Alderaan match. However, after about the 20th time, I couldn't take it anymore. Dailes / PvP / Rinse & Repeat - ugh.
I left the group and headed over to the nearest Auction House. It was flooded with players - all wearing the same Battlemaster-whatever gear. They all looked the same. They all had the same few speeders. They all had the same little pets. They all had the same titles.
My goodness. This game is honestly the worst MMO I've ever played. It's not a clone of WoW, though. Even a linear game like WoW has MUCH MORE depth than SWTOR. This game is terrible and should not be considered a MMORPG.
Even my guildies agreed that they would be long gone had it not been mildly entertaining playing with friends.
Everything you just described IS present in World of Warcraft, but TOR adds story, and TOR lacks "depth"?
Addition of a new FP and a new Raid, dozens of bug and imbalance fixes, and the addition of FSAA... it's almost identical, only four patches later.
Yeah, that makes it whole new game that resembles nothing like the beta. Sooo, what is truly different from the beta besides some bug fixes, a new raid and FP? I'm talking about the meat and bones of the game I.E questing and pvp.
I love threads where people rush to 50 and complain they are bored now. Nevermind, skipping all the quest stories. I guess this game just is not for you because myself and many of my rl friends and guildmates are enjoying it a ton.
I love threads where people rush to 50 and complain they are bored now. Nevermind, skipping all the quest stories. I guess this game just is not for you because myself and many of my rl friends and guildmates are enjoying it a ton.
how about someone who played every class to about 30 and could not find a single reason to go on.. but same thing happened to all my firends and guildmates although most of them left way before they even made their first alt.. I at least gave the game a fair chance.
There you go friend I underlined the part you didn't read for you
Read it. Made my post for emphasis. Why would you assume otherwise?
Because you said "how have you been bashing it without ever playing it" when he said that he had already played it before... extensively
No... he said he played BETA extensively. Huge difference. If someone is to give feedback on a game that is out, I don't care how much they think they know from beta, it's not the same game once it goes into a live build. That aside, if the OP really did play extensively in beta, maybe he is just burnt out. I don't know of any game I could play for years in beta and then also play at launch and not be bored. I have never seen a game like that in my 30 years of gaming.
That said, I don't know why the OP is still commenting on SWTOR. Burnt out from beta? Check! Did not play live game? Check! Proceeded to comment on live game excessively without playing a live build? Check! Started playing a live build recently and was still burnt out? Check! Blames Bioware? ROFL!
For this game i believe you are wrong. Other than the few thing that they REMOVED from beta... such as high rez textures. This game plays exactly the same as it did in beta... for this game beta = extended public demo. So i consider extensive beta play to be a perfectly viable source of information in the case of thise game.
Furthermore Im sure extensive beta meant... a month or two not years as you had suggested.
But maybe you know something I don't if the game is any different than it was in beta then please... elaborate for me.
"Don't mistake a fun game for a good game... Checkers is fun to play but its not exactly the highest point of gaming design... and definatly not worth $60 plus $15 a month"
Im enjoying the game so..... yeah..... a lot of the problems you guys list, i haven't experienced at all. And most of them are shared with other MMOs. You guys expect WAAAAY TOO MUCH from MMOs, get a sense of god damn reality for once. SWTOR is a great game (I played both WoW and Rift, raided hardcore in both). IF you did your research, your expectations wouldn't be as exaggerated as it was. DO YOUR FUCKING RESEARCH! I knew what to expect from the game, and enjoy it greatly.
Not to mention, these type of threads pop up FOR EVERY SINGLE MMO when they get released. Can you see the pattern? Nothing new here, just the same old whining from idiots who expect too much from MMOs.
I keep seeing random dudes posting how bad this game is and really wait to see them post what game they are actually PLAYING so we have a point of reference . But no one does.
It would increase my laugh factor by a 100 when someone posted " Game is bland , boring compared to WoW or Darkfall or Guid Wars that I currently play . "
Or at least tell us that they don't really play ANY MMO , and they just wait for the next big one that will blow us away .
I read these posts and seriously wonder if these people have ever understood how an MMO works .
This random dude bought two Deluxe copies of the game - one for myself and for my wife. My wife said the game sucked by level 15...I got to level 50 and realized that BW spent all of it's money on VO and forgot to add the game. Hamster wheel grinding Raids and broken PVP for gear is the same crap that's been churned out for the last 7 years
300 Mil and BW and EA couldn't even release the game with a UI you could move or other basic features you would expect from ANY new MMO. BW's answer to end game content is to roll an Alt if you're bored. LOL
Fact is SWTOR is a single player game being sold as an MMO - plain and simple. So I packed up and went back to EQ2 - an old but very solid, fun game and will be there until the "next big game" happens.
We should all expect more from these companies and you should see a trememdous drop in subs over the next couple of months when slower players start figuring out there's no game after 50 either
If SWTOR was so good, why do we never see any positive arguements, e.g SWTOR is amazing, look at feature X, its amazing! Instead you get those people posting, omg you must be a retard/not understand how mmos work/hater blah blah blah.
So come, if SWTOR is so good show us what is so good about it (and yes we know about VO, next)
because people who are enjoying the game are actually playing the game and enjoy the hell out of it instead of sitting on the SWTOR forums whining and crying about it just waiting for any little sign to prove they are right and its "failing". or sitting on the forum going out of their way to disprove any positive post that they come across.
I've been ranting on about this game ever since my extensive beta experience. In general, what one experiences in beta is what they experience on the live servers. However, I broke down and decided to give it another try (because of guildmate pressure).
So I installed the game and started playing. Again, the story was pretty entertaining at first. However, after a few days, I couldn't deal with all the useless "run here, run there, come back, run here, deliver this, come back" bullcrap. Most of my playtime seemed to be just running along these boring paths.
My guildies agreed that the questing becomes boring as heck. So they had pretty much leveled up via PvP. Okay. "I'll try that."
So we queue our group for PvP. It's a beatdown. We pillaged just about every Void Star, Huttball, and Alderaan match. However, after about the 20th time, I couldn't take it anymore. Dailes / PvP / Rinse & Repeat - ugh.
I left the group and headed over to the nearest Auction House. It was flooded with players - all wearing the same Battlemaster-whatever gear. They all looked the same. They all had the same few speeders. They all had the same little pets. They all had the same titles.
My goodness. This game is honestly the worst MMO I've ever played. It's not a clone of WoW, though. Even a linear game like WoW has MUCH MORE depth than SWTOR. This game is terrible and should not be considered a MMORPG.
Even my guildies agreed that they would be long gone had it not been mildly entertaining playing with friends.
Having seen your posts for quite some time (You tend to "share" your opinion on every official MMORPG staff SWTOR post), you were the last person I expected to even install the game, nevermind actually PLAY it.
Congrats on giving them your money, as highly opposed to the themepark concept you are. Bioware - 1, Precious328 - 0.
Actually, it was a friend's account who quit (for obvious reasons).
Im enjoying the game so..... yeah..... a lot of the problems you guys list, i haven't experienced at all. And most of them are shared with other MMOs. You guys expect WAAAAY TOO MUCH from MMOs, get a sense of god damn reality for once. SWTOR is a great game (I played both WoW and Rift, raided hardcore in both). IF you did your research, your expectations wouldn't be as exaggerated as it was. DO YOUR FUCKING RESEARCH! I knew what to expect from the game, and enjoy it greatly.
Not to mention, these type of threads pop up FOR EVERY SINGLE MMO when they get released. Can you see the pattern? Nothing new here, just the same old whining from idiots who expect too much from MMOs.
I keep seeing random dudes posting how bad this game is and really wait to see them post what game they are actually PLAYING so we have a point of reference . But no one does.
It would increase my laugh factor by a 100 when someone posted " Game is bland , boring compared to WoW or Darkfall or Guid Wars that I currently play . "
Or at least tell us that they don't really play ANY MMO , and they just wait for the next big one that will blow us away .
I read these posts and seriously wonder if these people have ever understood how an MMO works .
This random dude bought two Deluxe copies of the game - one for myself and for my wife. My wife said the game sucked by level 15...I got to level 50 and realized that BW spent all of it's money on VO and forgot to add the game. Hamster wheel grinding Raids and broken PVP for gear is the same crap that's been churned out for the last 7 years
300 Mil and BW and EA couldn't even release the game with a UI you could move or other basic features you would expect from ANY new MMO. BW's answer to end game content is to roll an Alt if you're bored. LOL
Fact is SWTOR is a single player game being sold as an MMO - plain and simple. So I packed up and went back to EQ2 - an old but very solid, fun game and will be there until the "next big game" happens.
We should all expect more from these companies and you should see a trememdous drop in subs over the next couple of months when slower players start figuring out there's no game after 50 either
If SWTOR was so good, why do we never see any positive arguements, e.g SWTOR is amazing, look at feature X, its amazing! Instead you get those people posting, omg you must be a retard/not understand how mmos work/hater blah blah blah.
So come, if SWTOR is so good show us what is so good about it (and yes we know about VO, next)
because people who are enjoying the game are actually playing the game and enjoy the hell out of it instead of sitting on the SWTOR forums whining and crying about it just waiting for any little sign to prove they are right and its "failing". or sitting on the forum going out of their way to disprove any positive post that they come across.
I was talking to the SWTOR fans who are posting on the forums and are can actually say something constructive rather than being a moronic sheep (Im sure you will agree negative idiots that cannot write 26 words without trying to insult people are morons)
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I left the group and headed over to the nearest Auction House. It was flooded with players - all wearing the same Battlemaster-whatever gear. They all looked the same. They all had the same few speeders. They all had the same little pets. They all had the same titles.
My goodness. This game is honestly the worst MMO I've ever played. It's not a clone of WoW, though. Even a linear game like WoW has MUCH MORE depth than SWTOR. This game is terrible and should not be considered a MMORPG.
Even my guildies agreed that they would be long gone had it not been mildly entertaining playing with friends.
That's funny because I just stood around near the bank on the Imperial Fleet, deciding what piece of armour I wanted to wear, and I was amazed at the differences in clothing. I was looking about to see what looked great and what I might ask about and everyone looked different.
I'll agree there's problems, and there's many a thing I don't like. It is a linear game and the lack of great crafted gear at latter levels is a shame. This is still undoubtedly an MMO though. It's no less linear that Rift and it has far better grouping. WoW isn't linear, and I honestly believe people's lack of tolerance of SWTOR is down to everyone trying to compare the two games. What does it matter if SWTOR is a MMORPG or not a MMORPG? It's a game and should be judged on that regard. Not on whether it lives up the masses need to qualify a game under a genre.
The fact that your friends are still there means they must enjoy it. Regardless of whether it was fun grouping with friends in a game, or not, I would still leave if I didn't enjoy the game. You're trying to make a point there out of one that doesn't exist.
Come on, be honest with yourself and all of us, Precious. You're just posting this because you wanted to hate SWTOR and you wanted to diss on it? True? You went in to the game with predisposition to think of it badly and, surprise surprise, you came out thinking it was bad. You didn't like the game, so why did you think that was going to change? Now you feel you need to tell everyone about it.
I love threads where people rush to 50 and complain they are bored now. Nevermind, skipping all the quest stories. I guess this game just is not for you because myself and many of my rl friends and guildmates are enjoying it a ton.
how about someone who played every class to about 30 and could not find a single reason to go on.. but same thing happened to all my firends and guildmates although most of them left way before they even made their first alt.. I at least gave the game a fair chance.
Guess you just do not like the game. Out of the 20+ I know playing all are still in and having an enjoyable time. To each his own
Man I'm really enjoying myself in swtor. I don't feel any pressure. It's so nice so quests through an epic story. i just got my surname and looking forward to all the cool things that comes with the legacy system when it's implemented.
Best game since EQ.
What a load of crap SWG (from day 1) was when you think about it... haha.
Your kidding right? You played a themepark MMO and experienced a..................theme park MMO? Nah its not possible.
Lets see you did Quests that had you going places, PvP that when played in an organxized way you won, people that were wearing similar PvP gear?
I just dont understand it they said this game was going to be Ultima Online 2.
is it wrong people expected little more of a themepark from such a big title with such big hype? when a game like Rift from a small company like trion can put out a much better "MMO" game than a juggernaunt combo like ea/bioware something is wrong. People keep claiming themepark as a set defined genre that cannot be deviated from. This is such crap and only shows how shallow developers have become and lack of creativity they inspire into their games. Either way I don't see how it's so hard to see why many people were so dissapointed over the hype of this game what amazes me is others that can't see this...
My biggest problem with the game is not that it doesn't innovate, but that it lacks most of the innovations since 2005 when they announced the project. can't customize the UI, no LFG mechanics, very little social value, space flight/combat (not rails), these things aren't unheard of in the MMO world.
Personally, they've innovated a bit. VO some don't like, but it really is something different, and the companions are a nice break as well. (Pets with a story.) I like those things. Now combine those things with what should be standard for a so called "AAA" MMO (personally I find it more apt to say AAA in baseball), and you've got yourself one hell of a game. Maybe a little too much like WOW, but it moves it forward in certain ways.
Your kidding right? You played a themepark MMO and experienced a..................theme park MMO? Nah its not possible.
Lets see you did Quests that had you going places, PvP that when played in an organxized way you won, people that were wearing similar PvP gear?
I just dont understand it they said this game was going to be Ultima Online 2.
is it wrong people expected little more of a themepark from such a big title with such big hype? when a game like Rift from a small company like trion can put out a much better "MMO" game than a juggernaunt combo like ea/bioware something is wrong. People keep claiming themepark as a set defined genre that cannot be deviated from. This is such crap and only shows how shallow developers have become and lack of creativity they inspire into their games. Either way I don't see how it's so hard to see why many people were so dissapointed over the hype of this game what amazes me is others that can't see this...
My biggest problem with the game is not that it doesn't innovate, but that it lacks most of the innovations since 2005 when they announced the project. can't customize the UI, no LFG mechanics, very little social value, space flight/combat (not rails), these things aren't unheard of in the MMO world.
Personally, they've innovated a bit. VO some don't like, but it really is something different, and the companions are a nice break as well. (Pets with a story.) I like those things. Now combine those things with what should be standard for a so called "AAA" MMO (personally I find it more apt to say AAA in baseball), and you've got yourself one hell of a game. Maybe a little too much like WOW, but it moves it forward in certain ways.
It seems to me that the problem isn't with the game, but with the fact that YOU expected too much for a game that was just released. Granted, this title did have a huge budget, but it also has a huge world, with all the content needed to fill it. So how many games, at release, have all this stuff you think SWTOR should have? Even with the amount of money spent to produce such a big game, you will always have to determine which features will be in at release and which ones can be saved until later. Of all the systems you claim this game needs, not one of them are necessary at release. Now if they are not addressed within 6 months to a year, then it might be an issue, but not until then.
"If half of what you tell me is a lie, how can I believe any of it?"
I left the group and headed over to the nearest Auction House. It was flooded with players - all wearing the same Battlemaster-whatever gear. They all looked the same. They all had the same few speeders. They all had the same little pets. They all had the same titles.
My goodness. This game is honestly the worst MMO I've ever played. It's not a clone of WoW, though. Even a linear game like WoW has MUCH MORE depth than SWTOR. This game is terrible and should not be considered a MMORPG.
Even my guildies agreed that they would be long gone had it not been mildly entertaining playing with friends.
That's funny because I just stood around near the bank on the Imperial Fleet, deciding what piece of armour I wanted to wear, and I was amazed at the differences in clothing. I was looking about to see what looked great and what I might ask about and everyone looked different.
I'll agree there's problems, and there's many a thing I don't like. It is a linear game and the lack of great crafted gear at latter levels is a shame. This is still undoubtedly an MMO though. It's no less linear that Rift and it has far better grouping. WoW isn't linear, and I honestly believe people's lack of tolerance of SWTOR is down to everyone trying to compare the two games. What does it matter if SWTOR is a MMORPG or not a MMORPG? It's a game and should be judged on that regard. Not on whether it lives up the masses need to qualify a game under a genre.
The fact that your friends are still there means they must enjoy it. Regardless of whether it was fun grouping with friends in a game, or not, I would still leave if I didn't enjoy the game. You're trying to make a point there out of one that doesn't exist.
Come on, be honest with yourself and all of us, Precious. You're just posting this because you wanted to hate SWTOR and you wanted to diss on it? True? You went in to the game with predisposition to think of it badly and, surprise surprise, you came out thinking it was bad. You didn't like the game, so why did you think that was going to change? Now you feel you need to tell everyone about it.
Why on earth would I want to hate on a game?
I'm just disappointed. EA/BioWare had the financial backing to make the most amazing MMO - the MMO that is pillaged with content, theme worlds, open worlds, social content, and everything else. But instead, they have created the mind-numbingly linear character progression with absolutely no end-game in mind.
The game is still very new. People aren't going to be content with paying $15.00 per month for Void Star, Huttball, and Alderaan.
That's what you get for caving in to peer pressure.
"Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky
I dont care if you dont like the game I do . You can get all EMO and post it up on the internet and look like an idiot in front for tens of millions of people for all I care. Great game I like it and I'll play it until I find something I like better. That could happen next week, next month or next year or maybe even longer. Most people that play mmos are like me . They play what they like while they like it and then they move on . I haven't heard this much whining and teeth gnashing over a game since STO and WAR . Well now that I think abou it there is always a lot of teeth gnashing , whining and severe emo thumb sucking with the release of every major mmo . I guess These Thumb suckers haven't really figured out that what they say or do doesnt really matter to me or a majority of the player base becuase we will still play and move on when we see something better.
I dont care if you dont like the game I do . You can get all EMO and post it up on the internet and look like an idiot in front for tens of millions of people for all I care. Great game I like it and I'll play it until I find something I like better. That could happen next week, next month or next year or maybe even longer. Most people that play mmos are like me . They play what they like while they like it and then they move on . I haven't heard this much whining and teeth gnashing over a game since STO and WAR . Well now that I think abou it there is always a lot of teeth gnashing , whining and severe emo thumb sucking with the release of every major mmo . I guess These Thumb suckers haven't really figured out that what they say or do doesnt really matter to me or a majority of the player base becuase we will still play and move on when we see something better.
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I've got to hoth and been taken over by a paralysing sense of apathy towards the game. I don't know why, but it just hit me when i got that planet that it's been the same thing for around 160 hours across the two characters and now i'm just bored. I unsubbed and started playing other games.
Did it get my monies worth? for 160 hours of course i did. Did i have fun up to that point? a declining amount, yes, but it was still fun enough to play. I'm just not the kind of person willing to be bored playing a game, so i get bored, i stop. Life's too short. To those genuinely having fun in SWTOR: good on you To those attacking anyone who's got bored of the game: if you were having as much fun as you thought, you wouldn't be on this forum all the time. That niggling voice at the back of your mind won't go away by you lashing out at others.
I'm out of the MMO genre until the guild wars 2 beta (which will hopefully be soon). Now that's a game which will hold me for a while if the demo was anything to go by
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think you are looking at the don't give a crap statement wrong.. of course they want ot make money so of course bug fixes and patches will come. It's there view and attention to detail on how everything is put together. How lazy everything feels put together how reflections are static and don't actually reflect the surrounding area(this REALLY is annoying to me I don't know why) how weather is static and if it rains here guess what it ALWAYS rains here. How you can walk through areas Dromund Kaas and one quest you tag sith acolytes guess what all the acolytes use the same model.. look around almost every slectable npc in dromund that is labeled citizen looks the same I mean really with this much money and time put into a game like this I expect a little attention to detail here and there... now like you said not everyone feels this way but to me I;m big on the "little things" if you will and to me it shows how much time and thought a company put into their product.
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/339443/Video-FollowUp-Guide-For-Enhancing-Graphics-and-Performance-in-SWTORSorry-still-Nvidia-Only.html
You know the engine actually had weather cycles in it and Bioware went through a little extra effort to take them out. They said that weather seemed to interfere with the quality of cutscenes. Personally I think this was some work they should have spent elsewhere and left weather cycles in. But, I digress. They care, but they are fumbling around in the dark on some things, so afraid of anything that will impede the player's impression of their class story. It's rookie season at Bioware. Repeated models? I think it's a hero engine limitation of performance vs unique models. I could be wrong though, but like I said, it is their rookie year.
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Everything you just described IS present in World of Warcraft, but TOR adds story, and TOR lacks "depth"?
This thread fails at logic...
BOOYAKA!
I love threads where people rush to 50 and complain they are bored now. Nevermind, skipping all the quest stories. I guess this game just is not for you because myself and many of my rl friends and guildmates are enjoying it a ton.
how about someone who played every class to about 30 and could not find a single reason to go on.. but same thing happened to all my firends and guildmates although most of them left way before they even made their first alt.. I at least gave the game a fair chance.
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/339443/Video-FollowUp-Guide-For-Enhancing-Graphics-and-Performance-in-SWTORSorry-still-Nvidia-Only.html
For this game i believe you are wrong. Other than the few thing that they REMOVED from beta... such as high rez textures. This game plays exactly the same as it did in beta... for this game beta = extended public demo. So i consider extensive beta play to be a perfectly viable source of information in the case of thise game.
Furthermore Im sure extensive beta meant... a month or two not years as you had suggested.
But maybe you know something I don't if the game is any different than it was in beta then please... elaborate for me.
"Don't mistake a fun game for a good game... Checkers is fun to play but its not exactly the highest point of gaming design... and definatly not worth $60 plus $15 a month"
because people who are enjoying the game are actually playing the game and enjoy the hell out of it instead of sitting on the SWTOR forums whining and crying about it just waiting for any little sign to prove they are right and its "failing". or sitting on the forum going out of their way to disprove any positive post that they come across.
Actually, it was a friend's account who quit (for obvious reasons).
So I didn't have to buy anything.
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It's not about the questing. It's about the fact that SWTOR is more co'op than MMO.
I was talking to the SWTOR fans who are posting on the forums and are can actually say something constructive rather than being a moronic sheep (Im sure you will agree negative idiots that cannot write 26 words without trying to insult people are morons)
rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW > oblivion > LOTR > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar
Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR, Elite D
That's funny because I just stood around near the bank on the Imperial Fleet, deciding what piece of armour I wanted to wear, and I was amazed at the differences in clothing. I was looking about to see what looked great and what I might ask about and everyone looked different.
I'll agree there's problems, and there's many a thing I don't like. It is a linear game and the lack of great crafted gear at latter levels is a shame. This is still undoubtedly an MMO though. It's no less linear that Rift and it has far better grouping. WoW isn't linear, and I honestly believe people's lack of tolerance of SWTOR is down to everyone trying to compare the two games. What does it matter if SWTOR is a MMORPG or not a MMORPG? It's a game and should be judged on that regard. Not on whether it lives up the masses need to qualify a game under a genre.
The fact that your friends are still there means they must enjoy it. Regardless of whether it was fun grouping with friends in a game, or not, I would still leave if I didn't enjoy the game. You're trying to make a point there out of one that doesn't exist.
Come on, be honest with yourself and all of us, Precious. You're just posting this because you wanted to hate SWTOR and you wanted to diss on it? True? You went in to the game with predisposition to think of it badly and, surprise surprise, you came out thinking it was bad. You didn't like the game, so why did you think that was going to change? Now you feel you need to tell everyone about it.
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Guess you just do not like the game. Out of the 20+ I know playing all are still in and having an enjoyable time. To each his own
Man I'm really enjoying myself in swtor. I don't feel any pressure. It's so nice so quests through an epic story. i just got my surname and looking forward to all the cool things that comes with the legacy system when it's implemented.
Best game since EQ.
What a load of crap SWG (from day 1) was when you think about it... haha.
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My biggest problem with the game is not that it doesn't innovate, but that it lacks most of the innovations since 2005 when they announced the project. can't customize the UI, no LFG mechanics, very little social value, space flight/combat (not rails), these things aren't unheard of in the MMO world.
Personally, they've innovated a bit. VO some don't like, but it really is something different, and the companions are a nice break as well. (Pets with a story.) I like those things. Now combine those things with what should be standard for a so called "AAA" MMO (personally I find it more apt to say AAA in baseball), and you've got yourself one hell of a game. Maybe a little too much like WOW, but it moves it forward in certain ways.
It seems to me that the problem isn't with the game, but with the fact that YOU expected too much for a game that was just released. Granted, this title did have a huge budget, but it also has a huge world, with all the content needed to fill it. So how many games, at release, have all this stuff you think SWTOR should have? Even with the amount of money spent to produce such a big game, you will always have to determine which features will be in at release and which ones can be saved until later. Of all the systems you claim this game needs, not one of them are necessary at release. Now if they are not addressed within 6 months to a year, then it might be an issue, but not until then.
"If half of what you tell me is a lie, how can I believe any of it?"
Why on earth would I want to hate on a game?
I'm just disappointed. EA/BioWare had the financial backing to make the most amazing MMO - the MMO that is pillaged with content, theme worlds, open worlds, social content, and everything else. But instead, they have created the mind-numbingly linear character progression with absolutely no end-game in mind.
The game is still very new. People aren't going to be content with paying $15.00 per month for Void Star, Huttball, and Alderaan.
That's what you get for caving in to peer pressure.
"Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky
I dont care if you dont like the game I do . You can get all EMO and post it up on the internet and look like an idiot in front for tens of millions of people for all I care. Great game I like it and I'll play it until I find something I like better. That could happen next week, next month or next year or maybe even longer. Most people that play mmos are like me . They play what they like while they like it and then they move on . I haven't heard this much whining and teeth gnashing over a game since STO and WAR . Well now that I think abou it there is always a lot of teeth gnashing , whining and severe emo thumb sucking with the release of every major mmo . I guess These Thumb suckers haven't really figured out that what they say or do doesnt really matter to me or a majority of the player base becuase we will still play and move on when we see something better.
Bioware that you?
PM before you report at least or you could just block.
I've got to hoth and been taken over by a paralysing sense of apathy towards the game. I don't know why, but it just hit me when i got that planet that it's been the same thing for around 160 hours across the two characters and now i'm just bored. I unsubbed and started playing other games.
Did it get my monies worth? for 160 hours of course i did. Did i have fun up to that point? a declining amount, yes, but it was still fun enough to play. I'm just not the kind of person willing to be bored playing a game, so i get bored, i stop. Life's too short. To those genuinely having fun in SWTOR: good on you
To those attacking anyone who's got bored of the game: if you were having as much fun as you thought, you wouldn't be on this forum all the time. That niggling voice at the back of your mind won't go away by you lashing out at others.
I'm out of the MMO genre until the guild wars 2 beta (which will hopefully be soon). Now that's a game which will hold me for a while if the demo was anything to go by