I can see it strongly appealing to people that will find GW2 too innovative and different - and there will be many like that
Lob, plenty of folks are very turned off by TERA's game systems though as well.
I would say the percieved skill required for a targetting based game will hurt this game in the mass MMORPG market, which is a shame because it's not hard at all once you make the adjustment.
No that's not it. What will hurt the game is going click-click-click-click-2-click-click-click-right click-click-click etc.... Action based games like these are much easier than tradtional click-to-target mmos, where you have to actually think about your next ability, instead of just clicking. This is why people call games like Vindictus and Dragon Nest no-brainer hack 'n slashers.
Most mmo players want a game with strategy, more thought to each action, but slower combat. Most twitch players play games like BF3 or other shooters, anything where in-game reflexes are the main skill. Action based mmos like these are aiming at a big audience, with mechanics primarily for a different audience. Tera can end up being plenty successful, but it will never be huge.
I kinda doubt it. TSW do have the potential of getting a higher playerbase than earlier FunCom games and I like the idea of a Cthulhu styled modern world MMO. TERA and TSW is going straight up against eachothers and anything can happen there.
GW2 on the other hand have a lot more experienced team than the other 2, a hype level that is beyond any MMO since ever and the fact that it is fantsy is also a huge thing, MMO players seems to prefer fantasy.
I can imagine both TERA and TSW having impressing 500K active players but I also think GW2 will have 2 million or so (active that is, number of accounts will be more than the original GWs 3,5 million seperate accounts).
I salute all 3 of those games for trying to do something different from the standard model MMO but I still don´t see TSW or Tera competing against GW2, I don´t even see both of them together having more active players than GW2.
GW2 will be up against Wow, TOR, Titan, Copernicus, Class 4 and possible WoDO.
TSW will be up against Rift, TERA, EQ Next, PS2, LOTRO and similar games. Successful games but not the ones that are truly huge.
I have no doubt that GW2 will have the largest player base. It is B2P after all. I think community wise, TSW will be much better though. Every kid under the sun will be playing as they don't need a mommy or daddy's credit card number. I agree with one of the posters above me that GW2 is probably a little too over hyped. I have more of a wait and see attitude with GW2. I see the potential for numerous things that sound great on paper or play great on a limited playthrough but might not stand the test of months of playtime. I'll for sure buy it at launch and give it a play through though. I am also not a huge fan of anything NCSoft.
Okay, I'm seeing this in every post and its bugging the hell out of me, NCSoft isnt working on GW2 its Arenanet, Arenanet is a subsidory of NCSoft, but Arenanet holds all the cards on the GW2 title, please check out the Arenanet website and read up on this company. Sorry but its one of them niggles that has been eating at me.
They are OWNED by NCSoft. They are not a seperate entity. I work for a company that is owned by a major defense corporation. Sure, they allow us to develop stuff on our own, but the ultimate financial decisions lie with them and everything we do is reported to them. I know as much as many of you would like to believe that they are only making games for the world's entertainment, they are doing it to make a profit.
I kinda doubt it. TSW do have the potential of getting a higher playerbase than earlier FunCom games and I like the idea of a Cthulhu styled modern world MMO. TERA and TSW is going straight up against eachothers and anything can happen there.
GW2 on the other hand have a lot more experienced team than the other 2, a hype level that is beyond any MMO since ever and the fact that it is fantsy is also a huge thing, MMO players seems to prefer fantasy.
I can imagine both TERA and TSW having impressing 500K active players but I also think GW2 will have 2 million or so (active that is, number of accounts will be more than the original GWs 3,5 million seperate accounts).
I salute all 3 of those games for trying to do something different from the standard model MMO but I still don´t see TSW or Tera competing against GW2, I don´t even see both of them together having more active players than GW2.
GW2 will be up against Wow, TOR, Titan, Copernicus, Class 4 and possible WoDO.
TSW will be up against Rift, TERA, EQ Next, PS2, LOTRO and similar games. Successful games but not the ones that are truly huge.
I have no doubt that GW2 will have the largest player base. It is B2P after all. I think community wise, TSW will be much better though. Every kid under the sun will be playing as they don't need a mommy or daddy's credit card number. I agree with one of the posters above me that GW2 is probably a little too over hyped. I have more of a wait and see attitude with GW2. I see the potential for numerous things that sound great on paper or play great on a limited playthrough but might not stand the test of months of playtime. I'll for sure buy it at launch and give it a play through though. I am also not a huge fan of anything NCSoft.
Okay, I'm seeing this in every post and its bugging the hell out of me, NCSoft isnt working on GW2 its Arenanet, Arenanet is a subsidory of NCSoft, but Arenanet holds all the cards on the GW2 title, please check out the Arenanet website and read up on this company. Sorry but its one of them niggles that has been eating at me.
They are OWNED by NCSoft. They are not a seperate entity. I work for a company that is owned by a major defense corporation. Sure, they allow us to develop stuff on our own, but the ultimate financial decisions lie with them and everything we do is reported to them. I know as much as many of you would like to believe that they are only making games for the world's entertainment, they are doing it to make a profit.
Because your companies budget is controlled by another company then Anet budget is controlled by NCSoft? like I said go do some reading mr know it all.
Originally posted by Sorrow Originally posted by DannyGlover I think Blade n Soul is NC Soft's answer to Tera. GW2 is in its own category. Some sorta tab target barrel roll combat system. Not really console action, not really gcd wow style combat. It may be the perfect fit for some people, and utter crap for others. But I don't think it really has any direct competition.
Not to be a witch any more than I have been but, if you love the Tera combat system I strongly urge you to go try the free to play Dragon Nest, they do twich combat so amazingly that it kinda makes Tera's attempt look sloppy. I played Dragon Nest a few months back. Honestly, if I want to play a quality action game, I can just pop in Ninja Gaiden or God of War. I don't need or want my mmo to be some pseudo action game. Theres plenty of people that will be blown away by GW2 or Tera's actiony combat. But they are more than likely just new to that genre. Besides, I played an online beat em up 12 years ago (PSO) and it was great. No holy trinity, active dodging, complimentary moves between classes, combos... sound familiar? hehe
I'm happy for the folks that are going nuts over these upcoming action mmos. I say welcome to the genre!
I sit on a man's back, choking him and making him carry me, and yet assure myself and others that I am very sorry for him and wish to ease his lot by all possible means - except by getting off his back.
I have been waiting for GW2 for years. Nothing else touches it.
Nothing released this year or close. ( SWTOR )
But I played TERA and I can see a competitor.
No wonder NC soft are trying to sue Bluehole and stop Tera.
Your thread title... why does another game world "have to" give some other game world a "run for its money" to quote you? There are actually enough gamers out there to cater to most anyone. I've never gotten this mind set that something has to give something a run for its money or be a "X killer".
Wouldn't you rather talk about what you like and why? And what you don't like and why? Or, how can we improve "X game"? Seriously I find things like this mental masturbation and have never gotten a reason why there has to be such mind sets. I don't see any productive conversation in it.
Now had you wanted to talk about what someone is doing better and why? Sure, I'm all game for that. That doesn't seem to be tone of these sort of threads though. So see my previous comment above about mental masturbation.
Where the combat in this game is decent, the rest of the game is a pretty generic grind. This game did not do well in Korea and i do not see it performing fantastically in the states or europe.
And people stop ditching twitch combat. There is a lot more 2 it then click click click. The same timing, combos, and power builds up excist in twitch as they do in traditional MMOs. The only difference is you actually have to aim to accomplish your goal.
I kinda doubt it. TSW do have the potential of getting a higher playerbase than earlier FunCom games and I like the idea of a Cthulhu styled modern world MMO. TERA and TSW is going straight up against eachothers and anything can happen there.
GW2 on the other hand have a lot more experienced team than the other 2, a hype level that is beyond any MMO since ever and the fact that it is fantsy is also a huge thing, MMO players seems to prefer fantasy.
I can imagine both TERA and TSW having impressing 500K active players but I also think GW2 will have 2 million or so (active that is, number of accounts will be more than the original GWs 3,5 million seperate accounts).
I salute all 3 of those games for trying to do something different from the standard model MMO but I still don´t see TSW or Tera competing against GW2, I don´t even see both of them together having more active players than GW2.
GW2 will be up against Wow, TOR, Titan, Copernicus, Class 4 and possible WoDO.
TSW will be up against Rift, TERA, EQ Next, PS2, LOTRO and similar games. Successful games but not the ones that are truly huge.
I have no doubt that GW2 will have the largest player base. It is B2P after all. I think community wise, TSW will be much better though. Every kid under the sun will be playing as they don't need a mommy or daddy's credit card number. I agree with one of the posters above me that GW2 is probably a little too over hyped. I have more of a wait and see attitude with GW2. I see the potential for numerous things that sound great on paper or play great on a limited playthrough but might not stand the test of months of playtime. I'll for sure buy it at launch and give it a play through though. I am also not a huge fan of anything NCSoft.
Okay, I'm seeing this in every post and its bugging the hell out of me, NCSoft isnt working on GW2 its Arenanet, Arenanet is a subsidory of NCSoft, but Arenanet holds all the cards on the GW2 title, please check out the Arenanet website and read up on this company. Sorry but its one of them niggles that has been eating at me.
They are OWNED by NCSoft. They are not a seperate entity. I work for a company that is owned by a major defense corporation. Sure, they allow us to develop stuff on our own, but the ultimate financial decisions lie with them and everything we do is reported to them. I know as much as many of you would like to believe that they are only making games for the world's entertainment, they are doing it to make a profit.
Because your companies budget is controlled by another company then Anet budget is controlled by NCSoft? like I said go do some reading mr know it all.
Their budget is owned by NCSoft. They OWN Arenanet. What part don't you understand. Their profits are NCSoft profits. On ArenaNet's website... "ArenaNet is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Korea-based NCsoft Corporation". A subsidiary is a company that is either partially or completely owned and wholly controlled by another company that owns at least half of the subsidiary's stock. In ArenaNet's case, the company is wholly owned.
GW2 is in a completely different ballpark and comparing Tera to it is like putting your kid brother/sister up against Mike Tyson. Tera isn't THAT good. Combat is good and all but a truly great MMORPG is more than just how good it's combat feels.
Originally posted by gotha Where the combat in this game is decent, the rest of the game is a pretty generic grind. This game did not do well in Korea and i do not see it performing fantastically in the states or europe. And people stop ditching twitch combat. There is a lot more 2 it then click click click. The same timing, combos, and power builds up excist in twitch as they do in traditional MMOs. The only difference is you actually have to aim to accomplish your goal.
this game was in beta mode in korea, if you launch a game like that in the west it fails much more, now even in korea the game starts to rise, and combat by itself makes wonders, and after a while you start to enjoy kill 10 rats quests, this combat its amazing and very addict, i have only some doubts about world pvp but that´s another story....
I have been waiting for GW2 for years. Nothing else touches it.
Nothing released this year or close. ( SWTOR )
But I played TERA and I can see a competitor.
No wonder NC soft are trying to sue Bluehole and stop Tera.
I dont think so, tera cant even compete against aion, rift, and other games that are considered failed mmorpgs, tera imo is a generic asian mmorpg, with a better then average quality in terms of graphics with a different combat system, and different doesnt mean better or that people will like it more then the tab target used by the best and most played mmorpgs.
Imo tera will do worst then aion here in the western (EU and US), even in asia its not in the top 10 mmorpg games.
I don't think Tera can touch GW2 at all. It's more dangerous to Aion and Blade&Soul.
I tend to agree. Both in terms of quest mechanic and pricing GW2 has an advantage. Still, I think that Tera will have a six month leeway in the west before GW2 launches.
A more immediate threat to Tera will be TSW, since it has interesting game mechanics and a different and interesting theme. And of course they launch with roughly a month difference.
I don't think Tera can touch GW2 at all. It's more dangerous to Aion and Blade&Soul.
I tend to agree. Both in terms of quest mechanic and pricing GW2 has an advantage. Still, I think that Tera will have a six month leeway in the west before GW2 launches.
6 months!
Thats a very unoptomistic release date prediction for GW2! So you think GW2 will be Q4? I somehow really doubt that.
Currently waiting for the MMO industry to put out something good.
I predict an either September or October release at the earliest for GW2. Anything earlier is wishful thinking.
I tend to agree, you could be surprised but it's not likely. Nothing has even been announced yet.
As for GW2 and Tera they both have their perks but are not in competition with eachother, especially with GW2 being B2P(although we know people will spend endless amounts in the cash shop, like always while claiming B2P is cheaper).
Regardless, both will do good, GW2 probably not as good as people think and TERA probably a bit better, because seriously so many people seem to think TERA will be dead in a month(can't see it happening) and people think GW2 will be the second coming of christ.
Regardless, both will do good, GW2 probably not as good as people think and TERA probably a bit better, because seriously so many people seem to think TERA will be dead in a month(can't see it happening) and people think GW2 will be the second coming of christ.
This pretty much. While I'm all for GW2 being the 'wow killer', there are still many things which aren't clear about the game. Especially WvWvW and endgame dungeons/ dragon encounters.
Currently waiting for the MMO industry to put out something good.
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No that's not it. What will hurt the game is going click-click-click-click-2-click-click-click-right click-click-click etc.... Action based games like these are much easier than tradtional click-to-target mmos, where you have to actually think about your next ability, instead of just clicking. This is why people call games like Vindictus and Dragon Nest no-brainer hack 'n slashers.
Most mmo players want a game with strategy, more thought to each action, but slower combat. Most twitch players play games like BF3 or other shooters, anything where in-game reflexes are the main skill. Action based mmos like these are aiming at a big audience, with mechanics primarily for a different audience. Tera can end up being plenty successful, but it will never be huge.
They are OWNED by NCSoft. They are not a seperate entity. I work for a company that is owned by a major defense corporation. Sure, they allow us to develop stuff on our own, but the ultimate financial decisions lie with them and everything we do is reported to them. I know as much as many of you would like to believe that they are only making games for the world's entertainment, they are doing it to make a profit.
Yeah, this will totally steal all GW2 subs
"It has potential"
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Because your companies budget is controlled by another company then Anet budget is controlled by NCSoft? like I said go do some reading mr know it all.
I played Dragon Nest a few months back. Honestly, if I want to play a quality action game, I can just pop in Ninja Gaiden or God of War. I don't need or want my mmo to be some pseudo action game. Theres plenty of people that will be blown away by GW2 or Tera's actiony combat. But they are more than likely just new to that genre. Besides, I played an online beat em up 12 years ago (PSO) and it was great. No holy trinity, active dodging, complimentary moves between classes, combos... sound familiar? hehe
I'm happy for the folks that are going nuts over these upcoming action mmos. I say welcome to the genre!
I sit on a man's back, choking him and making him carry me, and yet assure myself and others that I am very sorry for him and wish to ease his lot by all possible means - except by getting off his back.
Welcome to what genre exactly?
Got to love the condensating tone in that post.
Your thread title... why does another game world "have to" give some other game world a "run for its money" to quote you? There are actually enough gamers out there to cater to most anyone. I've never gotten this mind set that something has to give something a run for its money or be a "X killer".
Wouldn't you rather talk about what you like and why? And what you don't like and why? Or, how can we improve "X game"? Seriously I find things like this mental masturbation and have never gotten a reason why there has to be such mind sets. I don't see any productive conversation in it.
Now had you wanted to talk about what someone is doing better and why? Sure, I'm all game for that. That doesn't seem to be tone of these sort of threads though. So see my previous comment above about mental masturbation.
Where the combat in this game is decent, the rest of the game is a pretty generic grind. This game did not do well in Korea and i do not see it performing fantastically in the states or europe.
And people stop ditching twitch combat. There is a lot more 2 it then click click click. The same timing, combos, and power builds up excist in twitch as they do in traditional MMOs. The only difference is you actually have to aim to accomplish your goal.
Their budget is owned by NCSoft. They OWN Arenanet. What part don't you understand. Their profits are NCSoft profits. On ArenaNet's website... "ArenaNet is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Korea-based NCsoft Corporation". A subsidiary is a company that is either partially or completely owned and wholly controlled by another company that owns at least half of the subsidiary's stock. In ArenaNet's case, the company is wholly owned.
I don't think Tera can touch GW2 at all. It's more dangerous to Aion and Blade&Soul.
GW2 is in a completely different ballpark and comparing Tera to it is like putting your kid brother/sister up against Mike Tyson. Tera isn't THAT good. Combat is good and all but a truly great MMORPG is more than just how good it's combat feels.
Your argument is nonsensical.
You are comparing apples to oranges.
this game was in beta mode in korea, if you launch a game like that in the west it fails much more, now even in korea the game starts to rise, and combat by itself makes wonders, and after a while you start to enjoy kill 10 rats quests, this combat its amazing and very addict, i have only some doubts about world pvp but that´s another story....
I dont think so, tera cant even compete against aion, rift, and other games that are considered failed mmorpgs, tera imo is a generic asian mmorpg, with a better then average quality in terms of graphics with a different combat system, and different doesnt mean better or that people will like it more then the tab target used by the best and most played mmorpgs.
Imo tera will do worst then aion here in the western (EU and US), even in asia its not in the top 10 mmorpg games.
I tend to agree. Both in terms of quest mechanic and pricing GW2 has an advantage. Still, I think that Tera will have a six month leeway in the west before GW2 launches.
A more immediate threat to Tera will be TSW, since it has interesting game mechanics and a different and interesting theme. And of course they launch with roughly a month difference.
6 months!
Thats a very unoptomistic release date prediction for GW2! So you think GW2 will be Q4? I somehow really doubt that.
I predict an either September or October release at the earliest for GW2. Anything earlier is wishful thinking.
Why do people keep saying GW2 will kill any game. People will play it with another game, or at least alot will.
I tend to agree, you could be surprised but it's not likely. Nothing has even been announced yet.
As for GW2 and Tera they both have their perks but are not in competition with eachother, especially with GW2 being B2P(although we know people will spend endless amounts in the cash shop, like always while claiming B2P is cheaper).
Regardless, both will do good, GW2 probably not as good as people think and TERA probably a bit better, because seriously so many people seem to think TERA will be dead in a month(can't see it happening) and people think GW2 will be the second coming of christ.
Haven't seen anyone in here say GW2 will kill TERA on this thread. What gave you that impression?
This pretty much. While I'm all for GW2 being the 'wow killer', there are still many things which aren't clear about the game. Especially WvWvW and endgame dungeons/ dragon encounters.
Lobo, you know how to turn the MMORPG community against an upcoming game.
I wish TERA all the best because my gf loved the beta and hopes to play it in the future. Personally, I'm not a fan. I'll stick to GW2.
BOYCOTTING EA / ORIGIN going forward.