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GW 2 : Not really free (B2P)
Scellow
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in Guild Wars 2
Hi all,
GW 2 has a special buisness model Buy(once)2Play
But it's not really that
Like GW 1 an Add-on will come every 6month so 60$ /6 = 10$ a month
Add-on in guild war universe are importance if you haven't you will be forgoten by all new content ..
Just my opinion
And sorry for my bad english i'm french 
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they have already stated that they are not going to release an expansion every 6 months like they did in gw1 at first because people could not keep up with the content.
Also you are right you trade in the sub fee monthly for paying for expansions later on but seriously thats not even a worry to most of us because all the games out there with sub fees charge a monthly fee a box price and then charge for an expansion so you end up paying more money then guild wars 2 still. Not to mention games like wow sell mounts that are better then most for 25 bucks and Rift sells special mounts also for extra money in the form of new collectors editions . So guild wars 2 economically you still pay a lot less then most games.
I'll pay for content that I want.
I won't pay for content that I'd rather pass on.
It doesn't matter if it's sub or xpack to me. I mean who doesn't want to pay for content one way or another?
Now what's crazy are the people paying subs to games that have updates that take longer than 3 months to go live. Really you should try and preach to them that they're getting a raw deal.
But If Guild Wars put out content worth 60 bucks every 5 months or so then I see that as proit for them and a worthy product for gamers.
I don't mind seeing businesses make cash. Call me crazy.
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In 7 Years of guild wars they released two additional stand-alone boxes and one expansion. Not $10/month ... not even close. GW2 won't do that anyways.
If in 1982 we played with the current mentality, we would have burned down all the pac man games since the red ghost was clearly OP. Instead we just got better at the game.
GW2's model is a bit different from GW1's was there is more emphasis on the cash shop this time around. I plan to spend around $80 for the first few months after it's released on the cash shop.
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Damn... on what? Maybe just buying two copies might be better if it's for account wide upgrades.
I may drop 20-30 bucks on bag space and exp boosts. Just enough I am not with the main stream of players. You know 10 people trying to kill 1 mob. I dont find that very fun. I can see people dropping 80 bucks trying to get their GW1 names. 3 char slots wont mean much for GW1 players lol.
Hehe, I already bought 3 copies of the game 1 digital deluxe and a collectors edition for myself and another deluxe for a friend of mine. I plan to unlock all the character slots, bag slots, bank slots and a lot of those magic find boosts
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That's quite lame. You need to pay extra for bank slots, bag slots, character slots.
It's beginning to look like all those lame f2p games out there.
Diablo 3 looks like a pay 2 win games with real money auction house.
Where goes the buy 2 play model with no string attach.
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I plan on buying the extra character slots and thats about it.
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Actually, regardless of how often they release those add-ons, that is buy to play. You buy the content you want to play. you dont' want to participate in an add-on expansion? You don't buy it. you want to participate? You do buy it.
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Need? NEED?
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And dear God some people are so cheap. Oh freaking noes, I have to spend $10 half a year later to get hours of content. That doesn't change the fact that from a pure, value point of view....GW2 is still pretty damn good.
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P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)
Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.
Last time I checked Panda isn't coming free, don't get what's the big deal. In P2P you have to pay the box + monthly + expansions, in GW2 you just pay the box + expansions.
You buy the game to play it. GW2 is the very definition of Buy2Play. There's no subscription, and you pay for the box so it's Buy 2 Play.
As far as the expansions, they add additional content above and beyond what was provided in the original box. For additional content, you pay additional money. That too is Buy2Play. You're buying to play more content.
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Not sure how you came to the conclusion that GW1 released an add-on (expansion) every 6 months and how you know that GW2 will also release an expansion every 6 months; just like GW1 did. However, if GW1 did in fact NOT release an expansion every 6 months, I suppose then we can expect GW2 not to release an expansion every 6 months.
Prophecies was released on April 28 2005
1 year
Factions was released on April 28 2006
6 months
Nighfall was released on October 27 2006
10 months
Eye of the North was released on August 31 2007
Precisely. I will have all extra slots by the end of month 1, and will buy 0 gems.
(even non-hardcore gamers could do this within 2-3 months, which is shorter than it would take one to earn enough gold in WoW at launch to buy all bank slots).
Also, addressing the OP, even IF Anet would do an expansion every 6 months (which, as others said, won't happen, once a year maybe), that would STILL be less than a P2P game, because the P2P game would do the $60 for expansion as well as the normal sub fee.
(Using GW1 compared to WoW as an example--GW1, even if they had released a new expansion every 6 months for 7 years, would cost a total of $700, with main game and 13 expansions! WoW during the same time, with only 4 expantions (im including MoP), would cost $260 for main game and expansions and then $1260 in sub fees, 1520, over twice as much as GW1! for almost 1/3rd of the content (and both games have events, etc etc)). :P
EDIT: Basically, even if GW2 releases, i would STILL choose its B2P model over a P2P model, because i would still be getting more content for my money.
From my playtime, admittedly short BWEs, and what we know about GW2 past that this game would actually be worth a sub. It's not of course and nothing in the CS is required to play.
I will be buying my fair share of CS items however because I think ANets vision of adding and changing DEs as time goes on, outside of full expansions, are key to its longevity. It takes money to make that happen.
BTW... I don't recall the last time an Anet dev ever said that GW2 would be free. B2P is not really free anyway; hell, not even some of the F2P are free these days (freemium). Right from the start Anet announced that just like GW1, GW2 would have a B2P payment model. The cash shop has nothing that seriously provides anyone with any real advantage in gameplay (P2W) and the expansions are added content not part of the original purchase. The game, when you buy it, is complete in it of itself, you are free to buy or not buy any of the expansions, without your current gameplay exprience being atlered or affected; grant it, you can't expect to play the new content you are unwilling to purchase (no surprise there).
Scellow, I believe you are grasping at straws here.
Evil will always triumph because good is dumb....
/facepalm FYI only 1 campaign came 6 months after another and that was involving Factions which was tiny for PVE and mostly brought PVP aspects to the game, it even had a PVP only purchase available for Factions. What on earth does the bit in red mean? Also its still buy to play, you buy it and you play it.. no monthly fee and no pay to win items in the cash shop.