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Pretty sure I never attacked anyone. And I'm pretty sure I said he is 100% entitled to his opinion... but my point still stands that creating a thread based 100% on subjective opinion on a popular and very polarized subject, especially when there have been a dozen other such posts, is not only pointless but borderline intentionally fanning the flames.
Plenty of threads OP could have posted his opinion into, and I'd feel bad if any GW2 fan attacked him for his opinions, but I am not
I am questioning him for creating yet another useless, pointless thread that does nothing but create further negativity and the exact kind of posts you and I are now writing.
Can we please just talk about games? And can we please be positive about it?
Don't like a game? Fine - tell us. ONCE. Try and keep it civil and constructive too. Tell us why you don't like something, not just that you don't.
Go to other game's forums that you do like and talk to other fans of that game. But this CONSTANT series of people posting negative threads is like a revolving door of stupid.
GW2 fans do it all the time, so does everyone else. Hell I've done it and I know we all probably have.
It creates a toxic community. One focused on the negative and defense against negativity.
Imagine if no one started troll bait threads and the people in a specific game's forums just talked about that game with other fans of that game and no one trolled forums of games they don't like....
What a great site that would be...
The whole... "Someone is saying something positive, they must be crushed!" attitude is just as bad if not worse than the "someone is saying something negative, they must be crushed!" attitude.
I know I'm asking for the impossible for people to keep their hands to themselves and simply avoid this pointless jibber jabber.
Only thing I try and combat is blatant falsehoods / misinformation and obvious trolling which is clearly defined on MMORPG.com as excessive negativity and baiting.
I think the OP's thread is quite useful as he points out that this game has little longetivity and says why. Now you may not agree with his opinion but that does not make it pointless. The only reason it is baiting people is because there are people who sees GW 2 as the second coming of WoW and they cannot possibly see it as anything but perfect.
I mean if threads like this are pointless then what exactly is the type of threads which should be created on forums like this. That GW 2 is the awesome of awesomeness?
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The OP is entitled to his opinion and all but I find it hard to take it seriously given the OP was one of the biggest TSW shills on the forum.At oen stage it seemd liek he was creating 30 new threads a day(gross exagerattion for effect) extolling the virtues of TSW and denying any flaws,not to menition his activity in other user created threads.
This does not make his opinion invalid just hard for me personally to take seriously.The fact that this thread seems tailor made for the usual low post suspects and the usual anti GW2 suspects to jump on and tell us their opinions for the billionth time doesn't help either heh.
GW2 is by no means perfect and I do have my own personal doubts about it's long term cosntant appeal.However with no sub fee and already feeling like I got my $60 worth I feel free to come and go as I please.
All opinions are subjective unless you are talking about facts. Isn't that what forums are all about? subjective opinions?
Here is a very simple solution. Instead of targetting OP and tryign to shut him down or discourage him for giving his opinion. Don't read it? isn't that what mature people would do?
What is sad is that OP is talking about the game while you and that other gentle man is more interested in OP's past history and posting habits.
If people who like the game can repeat themseves months after months why can't a person who sees flaws in the game can do the same? i don't understand this logic.
If OP is beign abusive or making personal attacks i understand that people get upset. Even i am not that emotionaly attached to the game even though i consider myself to be a huge fan of Anet that i would go around telling people how to post and what they should or should not post.
There was nothing toxic about his post, sorry i disagree. Its the fans themselves who when go on defensive create more drama than it is really needed. I don't know why it is so hard to just ignore topics you don't like and move on.
A website where all fans only talk good about the game and no one trolls or bait would be called a fansite and i have been to one and it was the most boring and obnoxious place to be.
I like to read opinions from both sides and i can't imagine a healthy discussion where all people always agree with eachother.
I dont see how it is 100% subjective. It is part subjective, where he says PvE is like a movie, but saying that there is lack of character progression after a certain level is a fact. After level 40-50 your character progresses little. You dont get any activable skills and just passive traits.
Also that WvW is a zerg fest is a fact. Almost every single time I tried it, there is a Zerg going from one control point to the other until it gets wiped out by another Zerg and then it goes around in circles with little sense and purpose behind it, no end or beginning just mindless zerging.
So the OPs thread is not 100% subjective at all. It is just a common trick used by fanboys to try to discredit criticism.
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But that will never happen.
Unless we put all the "I don't like" threads into one part. Frankly I'm bored with them, really I am. I like every part of the game and I would visit a forum to learn more new things about the game. Like learning mechanics and all and discussing the crafting professions and how to build some recipes or share jumping puzzle locations with each other. But instead most of the topics are about "this game is bad" or "i don't like this", "i don't like that" so there's nothing else here left but trolling.
I'm more and more turning to YouTube channels like "Dontain", "Jesse Cox", "WoodenPotatoes" and lots of other informative channels. Because those are opinions from positive minded players, who give lots of information about the game and are enjoyable to watch. Don't forget to not watch or get involved with the comments though, they are just as filled with trolls. So yea it's not interactive anymore since I won't post on YouTube video's, but I get what I want which is more information and entertainment while waiting untill I can play the game myself.
I'm pretty sure he could have placed his thoughts in one of many, many threads like the one he created. There isn't really a need for this many. Also, on the other end, GW2 fans don't need to keep starting "your doing it wrong" threads.
The forums should be as BadSpock suggested, a place to help one another by duscussing things. Ranting leads to ranting and does nothing but blocking and reporting. Go to the forum of your choice and discuss what could be better about the game you like, not the one you hate.
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Well if I went to the TSW general forums and wrote my opinion on that game, I know for a fact bcbully and others would jump all over me just like others have jumped on him on the GW2 forums.
So what did I do?
I wrote my opinion piece on TSW after playing the trial in the review/impressions TSW sub-forum where it belongs, and I haven't made a post on TSW forums since.
We here are just tired of seeing the exact same "here is my opinion on why I don't like GW2" threads day in, day out, just like the fans of other games would be just as tired if their forums were always filled with this shit and NO ONE was actually talking about the game.
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That is the beauty of GW2 - get bored - go do another game OR SOMETHING IN RL and come back another day. YOU DON'T HAVE TO GRIND IT OUT TO LVL 80 in one sitting, I mean you are not paying a sub for the game.
I don't get why people say this, 'I'm bored' - then go do something else and come back when you are not bored. I guess people like to whine - MMO'ers seem to be some of the worst.
Your definition of "facts" is just a weighted and subjective of an opinion as your constant belittling of the opinions of others via your combative use of "fanboys" is both unneeded and further helping to fan the flames, not be a catalyst for reasonable, rational conversation.
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