GW2 just plain went over the heads of those used to not having to think.
Why is it that GW2 fans like this guy have to resort to the same old insults when defending their game? It always boils down to "you just don't get it" or "you're to simple minded to understand".
Is a man not entitled to the herp of his derp?
Remember, I live in a world where juggalos and yugioh players are real things.
GW2 just plain went over the heads of those used to not having to think.
Why is it that GW2 fans like this guy have to resort to the same old insults when defending their game? It always boils down to "you just don't get it" or "you're to simple minded to understand".
And why do the haters have to come to this forum to ridicule the fans that enjoy the game? This is his view and you have your own I guess, but if you enjoy a game go to that forum and promote it. I'm sure if you do enjoy a game you can cut and paste his comment and post it there, because it works for all loyal fans defending there game.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
GW2 just plain went over the heads of those used to not having to think.
Why is it that GW2 fans like this guy have to resort to the same old insults when defending their game? It always boils down to "you just don't get it" or "you're to simple minded to understand".
And why do the haters have to come to this forum to ridicule the fans that enjoy the game? This is his view and you have your own I guess, but if you enjoy a game go to that forum and promote it. I'm sure if you do enjoy a game you can cut and paste his comment and post it there, because it works for all loyal fans defending there game.
How can you have been in this forum for 3 years without understanding that a large proportion of people do not go to any forum and just click on links from the conveniently designed recent posts page.
Some people lead servers, win WvW matches and WvW. People know them.
Others complain it is a mindless zerg fest or its coverage wars (probably the same that have raid schedules and whatnot) and lose their WvW matches.
it is about coverage wars, hence the recruitment of oceanic guilds by all the top tier 1 servers over the past year. Please do not mislead people to think otherwise.
That being said, tier 2 servers are a lot of fun. lots of great players and lots of action. Always fun to watch a smaller group destroy a zerg force simply by using tactics such as portal bombs, funnel traps, and efficient support elementalists cutting down the opposing ranks.
Gw2 is a great game. Sure it has its problems, similar to every other game. it is impossible to please all the people all the time so they made compromises which maybe unpopular with some. The leveling system was a joke, and undermined the beautiful detailed world and exploration. The lack of defined roles undermined the blatant strategy utilized by most games of the genre, but there is still some strategy to be had in pve, and lots in pvp.
I don't exactly agree with everything jtcgs says, as it tends to be unsubstantiated, but it's equally nonsensical to respond to something with a comment that has nothing to do with the quoted content.
Then let the unsubstantiated parts be kicked in the arse...
No not really.... Still unsubstantiated as it isn't the norm....
Unsubstatiated: Not established as valid or genuine.
I do believe that if people are DOING it, recording it and you can see it...it is both valid and genuine. The word has nothing to do with "being the norm"...being the norm requires the majority of the players to be both good at the game and knowing how to play it. This would mean that only popular music is substantial and every other genre is unsubstantial....sorry, don't think so.
I hope we shall crush...in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country." ~Thomes Jefferson
GW2 just plain went over the heads of those used to not having to think.
Why is it that GW2 fans like this guy have to resort to the same old insults when defending their game? It always boils down to "you just don't get it" or "you're to simple minded to understand".
Why is it that GW2 haters like this guy see that statements are being made, proved wrong...yet hate it and make meaningless posts like the above?
The points being made are wrong, with proof...just admit the fact that you never bothered to learn the game because it was different than the handholding, facerolling, thoughtless games you are used to. If you took the time to learn it, you would know its far deeper than the typical DaoC, War, WoW crap themepark the genre has been stuck with for the past 13 years...you know, the thing most people here seem to be complaining about yet still complaining about games that don't fit into it.
Just the Elementalist class alone has more depth and brings more strategy than most games that fall into the clone category...
I hope we shall crush...in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country." ~Thomes Jefferson
GW2 just plain went over the heads of those used to not having to think.
Why is it that GW2 fans like this guy have to resort to the same old insults when defending their game? It always boils down to "you just don't get it" or "you're to simple minded to understand".
And why do the haters have to come to this forum to ridicule the fans that enjoy the game? This is his view and you have your own I guess, but if you enjoy a game go to that forum and promote it. I'm sure if you do enjoy a game you can cut and paste his comment and post it there, because it works for all loyal fans defending there game.
How can you have been in this forum for 3 years without understanding that a large proportion of people do not go to any forum and just click on links from the conveniently designed recent posts page.
I totally understand it, but without subtly directing some folks away it becomes a squabble and not a discussion. Clearly this individual even goes so far as advertising his dislike for the game and isn't here for discussion but to taunt others that do enjoy the game.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
Originally posted by darkhigh So what do you all play then? What holds your attention? What can you get lost in, pvp in, explore in, and all with meaning? I'm not trolling I understand how easily GW2 can burn out. I am simply asking as I too would like to know of a game that has more immersion and pvp is a battle for something of worth not just score board. Everyone here is right though I've spent the last 8 hours or so in WvW and nothings changing, no gear is being upgraded, no great 1v1 2v1 or any of that. ZvZ was fun at first but... meh now. Would like to know what to try next.
I loved daoc up to before cata. I just wish someone would make that game over instead of attempting daoc +++ (which ends up being daoc - everything that was good+ some shit thats bad).
"Society in every state is a blessing, but government even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one ..." - Thomas Paine
I loved daoc up to before cata. I just wish someone would make that game over instead of attempting daoc +++ (which ends up being daoc - everything that was good+ some shit thats bad).
You mean TESO don't you...
I hope we shall crush...in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country." ~Thomes Jefferson
Some people lead servers, win WvW matches and WvW. People know them.
Others complain it is a mindless zerg fest or its coverage wars (probably the same that have raid schedules and whatnot) and lose their WvW matches.
it is about coverage wars, hence the recruitment of oceanic guilds by all the top tier 1 servers over the past year. Please do not mislead people to think otherwise.
That being said, tier 2 servers are a lot of fun. lots of great players and lots of action. Always fun to watch a smaller group destroy a zerg force simply by using tactics such as portal bombs, funnel traps, and efficient support elementalists cutting down the opposing ranks.
Gw2 is a great game. Sure it has its problems, similar to every other game. it is impossible to please all the people all the time so they made compromises which maybe unpopular with some. The leveling system was a joke, and undermined the beautiful detailed world and exploration. The lack of defined roles undermined the blatant strategy utilized by most games of the genre, but there is still some strategy to be had in pve, and lots in pvp.
With the WvW season how does one explain the fact there are servers with 5/5 and 4/5 in silver and bronze as well?
Do they also have excellent night coverage?
Currently playing: GW2 Going cardboard starter kit: Ticket to ride, Pandemic, Carcassonne, Dominion, 7 Wonders
With the WvW season how does one explain the fact there are servers with 5/5 and 4/5 in silver and bronze as well?
Do they also have excellent night coverage?
Yep, we have 2 full groups and several small groups running at all times. Helps if your alliance has people from all around the world. Toss in the rest of the players from around the server and holding several maps is easy. Peak times 3 maps become little problem unless we face another decent server that has some coordination.
I hope we shall crush...in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country." ~Thomes Jefferson
GW2 just plain went over the heads of those used to not having to think.
Why is it that GW2 fans like this guy have to resort to the same old insults when defending their game? It always boils down to "you just don't get it" or "you're to simple minded to understand".
Why is it that GW2 haters like this guy see that statements are being made, proved wrong...yet hate it and make meaningless posts like the above?
The points being made are wrong, with proof...just admit the fact that you never bothered to learn the game because it was different than the handholding, facerolling, thoughtless games you are used to. If you took the time to learn it, you would know its far deeper than the typical DaoC, War, WoW crap themepark the genre has been stuck with for the past 13 years...you know, the thing most people here seem to be complaining about yet still complaining about games that don't fit into it.
Just the Elementalist class alone has more depth and brings more strategy than most games that fall into the clone category...
Again with the same old insults. I stopped playing months ago and didn't even make it to lvl 40. Not because GW2 was too hard or deep (hehe) I just found it boring. It certainly wasn't any more of a brain strainer than other MMO's I've played. Please don't make it sound like you have to be a member of MENSA to understand how it works. Besides, not everyone has to like what you like.
Is a man not entitled to the herp of his derp?
Remember, I live in a world where juggalos and yugioh players are real things.
GW2 just plain went over the heads of those used to not having to think.
Why is it that GW2 fans like this guy have to resort to the same old insults when defending their game? It always boils down to "you just don't get it" or "you're to simple minded to understand".
And why do the haters have to come to this forum to ridicule the fans that enjoy the game? This is his view and you have your own I guess, but if you enjoy a game go to that forum and promote it. I'm sure if you do enjoy a game you can cut and paste his comment and post it there, because it works for all loyal fans defending there game.
How can you have been in this forum for 3 years without understanding that a large proportion of people do not go to any forum and just click on links from the conveniently designed recent posts page.
I totally understand it, but without subtly directing some folks away it becomes a squabble and not a discussion. Clearly this individual even goes so far as advertising his dislike for the game and isn't here for discussion but to taunt others that do enjoy the game.
Just because I don't play GW2 anymore, doesn't mean I can't talk about it. I very rarely post anything GW2 related anymore. If you want to prevent big meanies from saying bad things about GW2, make your own fan forum where you make the rules. The poster you quoted was correct. Usually I just take a look at the most recent posts listed on the front page. I rarely go directly to a game's forum unless I'm looking for info.
And BTW, I don't hate GW2. It's a good game and well worth the price, esp. if someone is looking for an MMO and has a limited budget. There's no p2w whatsoever and it has a lot of things you can do. I keep the image in my signature because I know it drives the fanboys nuts every time they see it. Its for them, not GW2.
Is a man not entitled to the herp of his derp?
Remember, I live in a world where juggalos and yugioh players are real things.
Originally posted by darkhigh So what do you all play then? What holds your attention? What can you get lost in, pvp in, explore in, and all with meaning? I'm not trolling I understand how easily GW2 can burn out. I am simply asking as I too would like to know of a game that has more immersion and pvp is a battle for something of worth not just score board. Everyone here is right though I've spent the last 8 hours or so in WvW and nothings changing, no gear is being upgraded, no great 1v1 2v1 or any of that. ZvZ was fun at first but... meh now. Would like to know what to try next.
Skyrim and Morrowind with occasional forays into Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic I & II for me. MMOs have lost the RPG aspect for me. Old single games take up my time now
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse. - FARGIN_WAR
Originally posted by darkhigh So what do you all play then? What holds your attention? What can you get lost in, pvp in, explore in, and all with meaning? I'm not trolling I understand how easily GW2 can burn out. I am simply asking as I too would like to know of a game that has more immersion and pvp is a battle for something of worth not just score board. Everyone here is right though I've spent the last 8 hours or so in WvW and nothings changing, no gear is being upgraded, no great 1v1 2v1 or any of that. ZvZ was fun at first but... meh now. Would like to know what to try next.
Skyrim and Morrowind with occasional forays into Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic I & II for me. MMOs have lost the RPG aspect for me. Old single games take up my time now
But they have no end game content!
Currently playing: GW2 Going cardboard starter kit: Ticket to ride, Pandemic, Carcassonne, Dominion, 7 Wonders
Originally posted by Deivos I don't exactly agree with everything jtcgs says, as it tends to be unsubstantiated, but it's equally nonsensical to respond to something with a comment that has nothing to do with the quoted content.
While I admit to not watching the videos, I have to ask: Have *You* experienced either of these scenarios?
What is the majority of *your* WvW experience like? What can the "common rabble" expect to experience in GW2's WvW?
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse. - FARGIN_WAR
Originally posted by darkhigh So what do you all play then? What holds your attention? What can you get lost in, pvp in, explore in, and all with meaning? I'm not trolling I understand how easily GW2 can burn out. I am simply asking as I too would like to know of a game that has more immersion and pvp is a battle for something of worth not just score board. Everyone here is right though I've spent the last 8 hours or so in WvW and nothings changing, no gear is being upgraded, no great 1v1 2v1 or any of that. ZvZ was fun at first but... meh now. Would like to know what to try next.
Skyrim and Morrowind with occasional forays into Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic I & II for me. MMOs have lost the RPG aspect for me. Old single games take up my time now
But they have no end game content!
Exactly
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse. - FARGIN_WAR
For someone who's thinking about getting GW2, I hope the following info is useful to you.
I have spent a considerable amount of time in GW2 (6mths I think). 5 max lvl toons. 3 legendaries (CS & Arah farm). One of leading guild CMD (Oceanic time). Member of War Council. 2,000+ hours playetime. Yes, I do know a bit about the game (though I have stopped for several months now).
In short, GW2 is a very very good game. Not without problems of course. But arguably the best mmo in last 2-3 years (but not the best ever). Definitely the best value (no sub fee).
GW2 scenarios are beautifully painted. Maps and zones are large and detailed (waypoint warps do make the World feel very small however). Leveling is a bit different to other standard mmo. Not quest hubs but rather a zonal progression with a mix of dynamic events here and there. Dungeons are ok (glitchy but anet often fix).
Combat is twitch-y. Some like it, others don't. Classes appear unique at first but as you get more into it. They are not that much different. Lack of holy trinity could be regarded as innovative (or not?). IMO I think it make classes lack identity. Skills and abilities are spam fest. I'm not sure what are better. Gw2 skills or Gw1.
WvW is fun for a good while until you learn it's Zerg wars. Float teams have uses but Zerg ball is still the key. As long as rez mechanic remain as is I think this will continue to be the case (despite recent patch tried to provide more benefits to float teams). People tend to get their win by lobbying new forces into joining them rather than improvin teamwork/getting more organized (whatever work best right!). lag/latency issue is also major issue in wvw.
Story is very weak. Despite having read Ghost of Ascalon and Edge of Destiny in order to be more immersed, I just feel something ws missing. The world was never in true danger. Lack of real villain (don't say dragons they ain't scary ppl farm them 24/7).
And the biggest problems for me (for me!) are patch updates. I call them 'no substance'. No sub fee is 2 edged sword rly. It offers great value but at the same time makes addition contents be smthing not rly core to the game (mini games etc).
Dont misunderstand me though I have shown you the cons (my opinion) of GW2. Everything else are quite good and rly deserve a look at. If you haven't tried it before. It is rly a great value game and is highly recommended.
For someone who's thinking about getting GW2, I hope the following info is useful to you.
I have spent a considerable amount of time in GW2 (6mths I think). 5 max lvl toons. 3 legendaries (CS & Arah farm). One of leading guild CMD (Oceanic time). Member of War Council. 2,000+ hours playetime. Yes, I do know a bit about the game (though I have stopped for several months now).
In short, GW2 is a very very good game. Not without problems of course. But arguably the best mmo in last 2-3 years (but not the best ever). Definitely the best value (no sub fee).
GW2 scenarios are beautifully painted. Maps and zones are large and detailed (waypoint warps do make the World feel very small however). Leveling is a bit different to other standard mmo. Not quest hubs but rather a zonal progression with a mix of dynamic events here and there. Dungeons are ok (glitchy but anet often fix).
Combat is twitch-y. Some like it, others don't. Classes appear unique at first but as you get more into it. They are not that much different. Lack of holy trinity could be regarded as innovative (or not?). IMO I think it make classes lack identity. Skills and abilities are spam fest. I'm not sure what are better. Gw2 skills or Gw1.
WvW is fun for a good while until you learn it's Zerg wars. Float teams have uses but Zerg ball is still the key. As long as rez mechanic remain as is I think this will continue to be the case (despite recent patch tried to provide more benefits to float teams). People tend to get their win by lobbying new forces into joining them rather than improvin teamwork/getting more organized (whatever work best right!). lag/latency issue is also major issue in wvw.
Story is very weak. Despite having read Ghost of Ascalon and Edge of Destiny in order to be more immersed, I just feel something ws missing. The world was never in true danger. Lack of real villain (don't say dragons they ain't scary ppl farm them 24/7).
And the biggest problems for me (for me!) are patch updates. I call them 'no substance'. No sub fee is 2 edged sword rly. It offers great value but at the same time makes addition contents be smthing not rly core to the game (mini games etc).
Dont misunderstand me though I have shown you the cons (my opinion) of GW2. Everything else are quite good and rly deserve a look at. If you haven't tried it before. It is rly a great value game and is highly recommended.
Nice post. I agree that its far from perfect but its still probably one of the best bang for your buck MMO's out there.
Is a man not entitled to the herp of his derp?
Remember, I live in a world where juggalos and yugioh players are real things.
I love it how the same people who criticize GW2 for being "heavily instanced" (which is a blatant lie) praise FFXIV for being currently the best MMO on the market
Although GW2 has zones, it acutally is the best MMO when you want to have fun while exploring a huge fantasy world. There is no other game that rewards exploring in so many ways.
But yes, in the end everybody should try GW2 for its WvW - this is the best PvP-experience one can have, they really hit the nail on the head. Hey, and look at it this way: Buy GW2 with no monthly fee for WvW and continue with a game like WoW for good raiding.
Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don't need.
I don't exactly agree with everything jtcgs says, as it tends to be unsubstantiated, but it's equally nonsensical to respond to something with a comment that has nothing to do with the quoted content.
Then let the unsubstantiated parts be kicked in the arse...
No not really.... Still unsubstantiated as it isn't the norm....
Unsubstatiated: Not established as valid or genuine.
I do believe that if people are DOING it, recording it and you can see it...it is both valid and genuine. The word has nothing to do with "being the norm"...being the norm requires the majority of the players to be both good at the game and knowing how to play it. This would mean that only popular music is substantial and every other genre is unsubstantial....sorry, don't think so.
No... Again it isn't the norm. You show two situations out of an innumerable amount and use it to substantiate your claim. Try that in the real world and get laughed at. You haven't validated anything. Sorry......
James T. Kirk: All she's got isn't good enough! What else ya got?
I keep saying to people how a raving about Teso they need to come play this game because it is very similar the only major difference for me is gw2 looks far better graphically
I think GW2 is a very good game, but not my cup of tea (unlike GW1). I prefer structured teambased PVP (ala GvG in GW1) over WvW. And structured PVP is kind of a stepchild in GW2. And this is while I actually prefer action based PVP over old school tab based. So, I do like the action combat in GW2. Just not the PvP system.
Anyway, for me to enjoy a MMO, I also have to like PVE. GW2 PVE is a little too gimmicky for me. Too many is designed around achievement bars and RNG rolls (crafting). The world looks very nice though and the dynamic events can be nice (if it doesn't turn into a zerg), but overall it still feels very artificial. Not like a virtual world anyway. One reason is how detached the cities feel to me. I know GW1 does score even worse in that department, but that game I played mainly for PvP. Another reason is character progression. This feels very shallow in GW2 and is spread over way too many lvls. It is as if they designed it for 20 lvls or so and then later on decided to add another 60 lvls.
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Why is it that GW2 fans like this guy have to resort to the same old insults when defending their game? It always boils down to "you just don't get it" or "you're to simple minded to understand".
Is a man not entitled to the herp of his derp?
Remember, I live in a world where juggalos and yugioh players are real things.
And why do the haters have to come to this forum to ridicule the fans that enjoy the game? This is his view and you have your own I guess, but if you enjoy a game go to that forum and promote it. I'm sure if you do enjoy a game you can cut and paste his comment and post it there, because it works for all loyal fans defending there game.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
How can you have been in this forum for 3 years without understanding that a large proportion of people do not go to any forum and just click on links from the conveniently designed recent posts page.
it is about coverage wars, hence the recruitment of oceanic guilds by all the top tier 1 servers over the past year. Please do not mislead people to think otherwise.
That being said, tier 2 servers are a lot of fun. lots of great players and lots of action. Always fun to watch a smaller group destroy a zerg force simply by using tactics such as portal bombs, funnel traps, and efficient support elementalists cutting down the opposing ranks.
Gw2 is a great game. Sure it has its problems, similar to every other game. it is impossible to please all the people all the time so they made compromises which maybe unpopular with some. The leveling system was a joke, and undermined the beautiful detailed world and exploration. The lack of defined roles undermined the blatant strategy utilized by most games of the genre, but there is still some strategy to be had in pve, and lots in pvp.
Unsubstatiated: Not established as valid or genuine.
I do believe that if people are DOING it, recording it and you can see it...it is both valid and genuine. The word has nothing to do with "being the norm"...being the norm requires the majority of the players to be both good at the game and knowing how to play it. This would mean that only popular music is substantial and every other genre is unsubstantial....sorry, don't think so.
I hope we shall crush...in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country." ~Thomes Jefferson
Why is it that GW2 haters like this guy see that statements are being made, proved wrong...yet hate it and make meaningless posts like the above?
The points being made are wrong, with proof...just admit the fact that you never bothered to learn the game because it was different than the handholding, facerolling, thoughtless games you are used to. If you took the time to learn it, you would know its far deeper than the typical DaoC, War, WoW crap themepark the genre has been stuck with for the past 13 years...you know, the thing most people here seem to be complaining about yet still complaining about games that don't fit into it.
Just the Elementalist class alone has more depth and brings more strategy than most games that fall into the clone category...
I hope we shall crush...in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country." ~Thomes Jefferson
I totally understand it, but without subtly directing some folks away it becomes a squabble and not a discussion. Clearly this individual even goes so far as advertising his dislike for the game and isn't here for discussion but to taunt others that do enjoy the game.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
I loved daoc up to before cata. I just wish someone would make that game over instead of attempting daoc +++ (which ends up being daoc - everything that was good+ some shit thats bad).
"Society in every state is a blessing, but government even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one ..." - Thomas Paine
You mean TESO don't you...
I hope we shall crush...in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country." ~Thomes Jefferson
With the WvW season how does one explain the fact there are servers with 5/5 and 4/5 in silver and bronze as well?
Do they also have excellent night coverage?
Currently playing: GW2
Going cardboard starter kit: Ticket to ride, Pandemic, Carcassonne, Dominion, 7 Wonders
Yep, we have 2 full groups and several small groups running at all times. Helps if your alliance has people from all around the world. Toss in the rest of the players from around the server and holding several maps is easy. Peak times 3 maps become little problem unless we face another decent server that has some coordination.
I hope we shall crush...in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country." ~Thomes Jefferson
Again with the same old insults.
I stopped playing months ago and didn't even make it to lvl 40. Not because GW2 was too hard or deep (hehe) I just found it boring. It certainly wasn't any more of a brain strainer than other MMO's I've played. Please don't make it sound like you have to be a member of MENSA to understand how it works. Besides, not everyone has to like what you like.
Is a man not entitled to the herp of his derp?
Remember, I live in a world where juggalos and yugioh players are real things.
Just because I don't play GW2 anymore, doesn't mean I can't talk about it. I very rarely post anything GW2 related anymore. If you want to prevent big meanies from saying bad things about GW2, make your own fan forum where you make the rules. The poster you quoted was correct. Usually I just take a look at the most recent posts listed on the front page. I rarely go directly to a game's forum unless I'm looking for info.
And BTW, I don't hate GW2. It's a good game and well worth the price, esp. if someone is looking for an MMO and has a limited budget. There's no p2w whatsoever and it has a lot of things you can do. I keep the image in my signature because I know it drives the fanboys nuts every time they see it.
Its for them, not GW2.
Is a man not entitled to the herp of his derp?
Remember, I live in a world where juggalos and yugioh players are real things.
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.- FARGIN_WAR
But they have no end game content!
Currently playing: GW2
Going cardboard starter kit: Ticket to ride, Pandemic, Carcassonne, Dominion, 7 Wonders
What is the majority of *your* WvW experience like?
What can the "common rabble" expect to experience in GW2's WvW?
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.- FARGIN_WAR
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.- FARGIN_WAR
Got permanently banned for offensive language.(even though the game has an optional language filter and block function)
Been trying to get unbanned for months....no deal.
Not buying a new account.
Waiting for Wildstar and Everquest Next.
For someone who's thinking about getting GW2, I hope the following info is useful to you.
I have spent a considerable amount of time in GW2 (6mths I think). 5 max lvl toons. 3 legendaries (CS & Arah farm). One of leading guild CMD (Oceanic time). Member of War Council. 2,000+ hours playetime. Yes, I do know a bit about the game (though I have stopped for several months now).
In short, GW2 is a very very good game. Not without problems of course. But arguably the best mmo in last 2-3 years (but not the best ever). Definitely the best value (no sub fee).
GW2 scenarios are beautifully painted. Maps and zones are large and detailed (waypoint warps do make the World feel very small however). Leveling is a bit different to other standard mmo. Not quest hubs but rather a zonal progression with a mix of dynamic events here and there. Dungeons are ok (glitchy but anet often fix).
Combat is twitch-y. Some like it, others don't. Classes appear unique at first but as you get more into it. They are not that much different. Lack of holy trinity could be regarded as innovative (or not?). IMO I think it make classes lack identity. Skills and abilities are spam fest. I'm not sure what are better. Gw2 skills or Gw1.
WvW is fun for a good while until you learn it's Zerg wars. Float teams have uses but Zerg ball is still the key. As long as rez mechanic remain as is I think this will continue to be the case (despite recent patch tried to provide more benefits to float teams). People tend to get their win by lobbying new forces into joining them rather than improvin teamwork/getting more organized (whatever work best right!). lag/latency issue is also major issue in wvw.
Story is very weak. Despite having read Ghost of Ascalon and Edge of Destiny in order to be more immersed, I just feel something ws missing. The world was never in true danger. Lack of real villain (don't say dragons they ain't scary ppl farm them 24/7).
And the biggest problems for me (for me!) are patch updates. I call them 'no substance'. No sub fee is 2 edged sword rly. It offers great value but at the same time makes addition contents be smthing not rly core to the game (mini games etc).
Dont misunderstand me though I have shown you the cons (my opinion) of GW2. Everything else are quite good and rly deserve a look at. If you haven't tried it before. It is rly a great value game and is highly recommended.
Nice post.
I agree that its far from perfect but its still probably one of the best bang for your buck MMO's out there.
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I love it how the same people who criticize GW2 for being "heavily instanced" (which is a blatant lie) praise FFXIV for being currently the best MMO on the market
Although GW2 has zones, it acutally is the best MMO when you want to have fun while exploring a huge fantasy world. There is no other game that rewards exploring in so many ways.
But yes, in the end everybody should try GW2 for its WvW - this is the best PvP-experience one can have, they really hit the nail on the head. Hey, and look at it this way: Buy GW2 with no monthly fee for WvW and continue with a game like WoW for good raiding.
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No... Again it isn't the norm. You show two situations out of an innumerable amount and use it to substantiate your claim. Try that in the real world and get laughed at. You haven't validated anything. Sorry......
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I think GW2 is a very good game, but not my cup of tea (unlike GW1). I prefer structured teambased PVP (ala GvG in GW1) over WvW. And structured PVP is kind of a stepchild in GW2. And this is while I actually prefer action based PVP over old school tab based. So, I do like the action combat in GW2. Just not the PvP system.
Anyway, for me to enjoy a MMO, I also have to like PVE. GW2 PVE is a little too gimmicky for me. Too many is designed around achievement bars and RNG rolls (crafting). The world looks very nice though and the dynamic events can be nice (if it doesn't turn into a zerg), but overall it still feels very artificial. Not like a virtual world anyway. One reason is how detached the cities feel to me. I know GW1 does score even worse in that department, but that game I played mainly for PvP. Another reason is character progression. This feels very shallow in GW2 and is spread over way too many lvls. It is as if they designed it for 20 lvls or so and then later on decided to add another 60 lvls.