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Angry Joe reviews ESO Beta

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  • vzerovvzerov Member Posts: 125
    Originally posted by angerbeaver
    Originally posted by Mpfive
    Originally posted by Blazer6992

    I agree with him, it should be free.

     

    No where in the video did he say it should be free, what video where you watching...

    I'm fairly certain he does around 22-23: minute range

    "If this game was free it would be one of the most amazing games to ever release....It would be the difference in being a leader of the pack in free to play versus one of a pack of $15/month games and assuredly there are probably better $15 a month MMO's than what Elder Scrolls Online is about to offer us."

     

    ya obviously $15 monthly fee for "one of the most amazing games to ever release" is just too much for him....

    but $99 for the in game horse is ok though.

  • funyahnsfunyahns Member Posts: 315
    Originally posted by vzerov
    Originally posted by angerbeaver
    Originally posted by Mpfive
    Originally posted by Blazer6992

    I agree with him, it should be free.

     

    No where in the video did he say it should be free, what video where you watching...

    I'm fairly certain he does around 22-23: minute range

    "If this game was free it would be one of the most amazing games to ever release....It would be the difference in being a leader of the pack in free to play versus one of a pack of $15/month games and assuredly there are probably better $15 a month MMO's than what Elder Scrolls Online is about to offer us."

     

    ya obviously $15 monthly fee for "one of the most amazing games to ever release" is just too much for him....

    but $99 for the in game horse is ok though.

     I don't think he personally cares about the sub. He is questioning how well the game will do with a sub, which is a fair question. 

    He railed against the pay wall of a class, and being able to switch faction with a preorder bonus.  If it was F2P then the mount would be more justifiable.

  • AdokasAdokas Member CommonPosts: 217
    Originally posted by ikcin

    I don't think I have ever seen a game where characters look more out of place and plastic, than Black Desert. They just look so so wrong. But that's just me, I suppose. I have zero hopes for Black Desert. I'm in the Repopulation camp. ^^

    In fact I most like characters in BDO, and think they are the best looking in MMOs by now. Anyway, people have different tastes. 

    It's not so much the characters I don't like. They look pretty. But I don't think they fit in with the environment. On their own, very pretty. :-) But yeah, different tastes!

  • TelondarielTelondariel Member Posts: 1,001

    He's a guy.  With an opinion.

     

    I didn't find what he said to add any value to anything that hasn't been ranted on ad naseum in these forums.  I also found his argument of "subscription vs F2P" to be contradictory as well.  He said that there is no way he would pay a monthly sub because it's just not worth it, then goes on dramatically at 22:15 about how amazing it would be because of it's depth and content.  Gotcha, bud.  You are in the camp that doesn't like to pay subs anymore.  Plenty of those around, and lots of people that will support that position. 

     

    I find him to be unreasonably biased.  He doesn't dislike the game, he dislikes the CE inclusion of the Imperial, the subscription, and that it isn't a carbon copy of Skyrim.  I add his opinion to the pile of others that clog up various ranting threads.

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  • Brabbit1987Brabbit1987 Member UncommonPosts: 782
    Originally posted by vzerov
    Originally posted by angerbeaver
    Originally posted by Mpfive
    Originally posted by Blazer6992

    I agree with him, it should be free.

     

    No where in the video did he say it should be free, what video where you watching...

    I'm fairly certain he does around 22-23: minute range

    "If this game was free it would be one of the most amazing games to ever release....It would be the difference in being a leader of the pack in free to play versus one of a pack of $15/month games and assuredly there are probably better $15 a month MMO's than what Elder Scrolls Online is about to offer us."

     

    ya obviously $15 monthly fee for "one of the most amazing games to ever release" is just too much for him....

    but $99 for the in game horse is ok though.

    It's pretty clear to me .. you fail at comprehension. That isn't what he meant at all. You are taking his statements way to literal and missing the point entirely.

  • Aldous.HuxleyAldous.Huxley Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 418

    Review of lvls 1-9...

     

    Although some points are valid, any mmos reviewed thru the tutorial portion of the game only are not comprehensive enough to sway my opinion. Especially when I know what comes later, beyond those opening lvls.

  • UhwopUhwop Member UncommonPosts: 1,791
    Originally posted by vzerov
    Originally posted by angerbeaver
    Originally posted by Mpfive
    Originally posted by Blazer6992

    I agree with him, it should be free.

     

    No where in the video did he say it should be free, what video where you watching...

    I'm fairly certain he does around 22-23: minute range

    "If this game was free it would be one of the most amazing games to ever release....It would be the difference in being a leader of the pack in free to play versus one of a pack of $15/month games and assuredly there are probably better $15 a month MMO's than what Elder Scrolls Online is about to offer us."

     

    ya obviously $15 monthly fee for "one of the most amazing games to ever release" is just too much for him....

    but $99 for the in game horse is ok though.

    It's fun to take things out of context.

    Instead of pointing out that he thinks it would be one of the most amazing games if it was free, you can say that he calls it the most amazing game to ever release while ignoring the part where it only applies if the game was free to play. 

     

    Some of you seem to neglect the fact that one of the points and perceived benefits of a free to play model is that you only pay for those things you want, and not pay each month for things you don't want.  In Angry Joes case it would seem that he'd be perfectly happy to pay for a mount with cash and forgo the monthly fee; something a lot of people would actually find more value in as is evidenced by the amount of money that cash shop games have made in the last year. 

    Or maybe his issue is that you pay $15 a month, and if you want the horse you have to pay another $99 dollars.  If you want to keep your horse you need to continue paying that $15 each month, but he doesn't feel that the rest of the content warrants continual payment. 

     

     

    But then some people don't understand that value is subjective, or just because it's an "elder scrolls" game feel that it's beyond criticism.  God forbid people not find it up to par for a monthly fee, it's an Elder Scrolls game; we should all shut up and give them our money for the name on the box, right? 

  • xpiherxpiher Member UncommonPosts: 3,310
    Originally posted by DMKano
    Originally posted by Aldous.Huxley

    Review of lvls 1-9...

     

    Although some points are valid, any mmo reviewed thru the tutorial portion of the game are not comprehensive enough to sway my opinion. Especially when I know what comes later, beyond those opening lvls.

    Why is there no option to skip the forced and linear tutorial?

    To me this is the biggest hurdle - let players jump into RvR after character creation.

     

    They do it in an attempt to connect you to your faction. 

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  • spizzspizz Member UncommonPosts: 1,971
    Originally posted by Malevil
    Originally posted by spizz
    Originally posted by Dihoru
    Originally posted by spizz

     

     

    Why should someone listen to a "GI Joe" reviewer on youtube, he just has his personal opinion about games he talks about.

    The best review is actually when you test the game by yourself and draw conclusions.

    And by that point you have been suckered into buying the game paying for sub. By that logic you should totally fall for every scam imaginable because everyone else is wrong until you see for yourself.

     

    Thats the risk buying every game.

    I would be suckered if I just would listen to a single person or magazin. Read forums and player reactions after release, read about many reactions and you still have the risk you wont like a game. Thats how it is.

    You contradict yourself, you say I should read forums and watch vides if I'm not sure. But thats what I'm doing when I watch this video ... negative review is review too and honestly last thing i want to watch when im undecided, is video of some fanboy.

    Noone will decide just becouse  1 reviewer doesnt like the game. Everybody is biased. But there are real things outside of gameplay that will cause many ppl to not touch TESO. For me its that bullshit with collector edition and exclusive race in it - for sub game thats simply ripoff.

     

    The most important is to play and test games by yourself, seems like many follow him like a "Guru" and this is exactly what I dont see is right.

    His opinion has weight since he succeeded to get many viewers, but at the end he is just one with his own opinion. If you get influenced by such "Gurus" you are lost.

  • Brabbit1987Brabbit1987 Member UncommonPosts: 782
    Originally posted by spizz
    Originally posted by Malevil
    Originally posted by spizz
    Originally posted by Dihoru
    Originally posted by spizz

     

     

    Why should someone listen to a "GI Joe" reviewer on youtube, he just has his personal opinion about games he talks about.

    The best review is actually when you test the game by yourself and draw conclusions.

    And by that point you have been suckered into buying the game paying for sub. By that logic you should totally fall for every scam imaginable because everyone else is wrong until you see for yourself.

     

    Thats the risk buying every game.

    I would be suckered if I just would listen to a single person or magazin. Read forums and player reactions after release, read about many reactions and you still have the risk you wont like a game. Thats how it is.

    You contradict yourself, you say I should read forums and watch vides if I'm not sure. But thats what I'm doing when I watch this video ... negative review is review too and honestly last thing i want to watch when im undecided, is video of some fanboy.

    Noone will decide just becouse  1 reviewer doesnt like the game. Everybody is biased. But there are real things outside of gameplay that will cause many ppl to not touch TESO. For me its that bullshit with collector edition and exclusive race in it - for sub game thats simply ripoff.

     

    The most important is to play and test games by yourself, seems like this guy is for many like a "Guru" and I dont follow gurus.

    To be honest, this statement that many like to use, actually doesn't make any sense. You are essentially saying people are not smart enough to know what they would or wouldn't like based on what they have heard and seen.

    What about games that are similar? We have experience in playing other games, it's not like this would be our first. So why does it require for you to literally have to play it yourself for a you to be able to make a proper judgement? 

    You are right though, the best way is to play it yourself. However, you are forgetting the cost. Why pay $60 - $80 on something you already believe you will not like?

  • UhwopUhwop Member UncommonPosts: 1,791
    Originally posted by xpiher
    Originally posted by DMKano
    Originally posted by Aldous.Huxley

    Review of lvls 1-9...

     

    Although some points are valid, any mmo reviewed thru the tutorial portion of the game are not comprehensive enough to sway my opinion. Especially when I know what comes later, beyond those opening lvls.

    Why is there no option to skip the forced and linear tutorial?

    To me this is the biggest hurdle - let players jump into RvR after character creation.

     

    They do it in an attempt to connect you to your faction. 

    From what I've read and watched, the tutorial has nothing to do with your faction.  It sets up the main antagonist, and explains why you can't really die. 

    One of the articles here actually talks a good bit about the tutorial. 

  • funyahnsfunyahns Member Posts: 315
    Originally posted by Brabbit1987
    Originally posted by spizz
    Originally posted by Malevil
    Originally posted by spizz
    Originally posted by Dihoru
    Originally posted by spizz

     

     

    Why should someone listen to a "GI Joe" reviewer on youtube, he just has his personal opinion about games he talks about.

    The best review is actually when you test the game by yourself and draw conclusions.

    And by that point you have been suckered into buying the game paying for sub. By that logic you should totally fall for every scam imaginable because everyone else is wrong until you see for yourself.

     

    Thats the risk buying every game.

    I would be suckered if I just would listen to a single person or magazin. Read forums and player reactions after release, read about many reactions and you still have the risk you wont like a game. Thats how it is.

    You contradict yourself, you say I should read forums and watch vides if I'm not sure. But thats what I'm doing when I watch this video ... negative review is review too and honestly last thing i want to watch when im undecided, is video of some fanboy.

    Noone will decide just becouse  1 reviewer doesnt like the game. Everybody is biased. But there are real things outside of gameplay that will cause many ppl to not touch TESO. For me its that bullshit with collector edition and exclusive race in it - for sub game thats simply ripoff.

     

    The most important is to play and test games by yourself, seems like this guy is for many like a "Guru" and I dont follow gurus.

    To be honest, this statement that many like to use, actually doesn't make any sense. You are essentially saying people are not smart enough to know what they would or wouldn't like based on what they have heard and seen.

    What about games that are similar? We have experience in playing other games, it's not like this would be our first. So why does it require for you to literally have to play it yourself for a you to be able to make a proper judgement? 

    You are right though, the best way is to play it yourself. However, you are forgetting the cost. Why pay $60 - $80 on something you already believe you will not like?

     Yeah the whole point of a reviewer is to let them jump into the water before you and let them tell you how it is.  The hard part is finding a reviewer who agrees with you on most things though. How exactly is  Angry Joe a Guru? I thought he was a game reviewer/entertainer in the same vein as Yahtzee.  He seems to be pretty legit from what I have seen, I don't always share his love of games, but I find his opinion useful when looking into getting a game.

  • spizzspizz Member UncommonPosts: 1,971
    Originally posted by Brabbit1987
    Originally posted by spizz
    Originally posted by Malevil
    Originally posted by spizz
    Originally posted by Dihoru
    Originally posted by spizz

     

     

    Why should someone listen to a "GI Joe" reviewer on youtube, he just has his personal opinion about games he talks about.

    The best review is actually when you test the game by yourself and draw conclusions.

    And by that point you have been suckered into buying the game paying for sub. By that logic you should totally fall for every scam imaginable because everyone else is wrong until you see for yourself.

     

    Thats the risk buying every game.

    I would be suckered if I just would listen to a single person or magazin. Read forums and player reactions after release, read about many reactions and you still have the risk you wont like a game. Thats how it is.

    You contradict yourself, you say I should read forums and watch vides if I'm not sure. But thats what I'm doing when I watch this video ... negative review is review too and honestly last thing i want to watch when im undecided, is video of some fanboy.

    Noone will decide just becouse  1 reviewer doesnt like the game. Everybody is biased. But there are real things outside of gameplay that will cause many ppl to not touch TESO. For me its that bullshit with collector edition and exclusive race in it - for sub game thats simply ripoff.

     

    The most important is to play and test games by yourself, seems like this guy is for many like a "Guru" and I dont follow gurus.

    To be honest, this statement that many like to use, actually doesn't make any sense. You are essentially saying people are not smart enough to know what they would or wouldn't like based on what they have heard and seen.

    What about games that are similar? We have experience in playing other games, it's not like this would be our first. So why does it require for you to literally have to play it yourself for a you to be able to make a proper judgement? 

    You are right though, the best way is to play it yourself. However, you are forgetting the cost. Why pay $60 - $80 on something you already believe you will not like?

     

    Of course you will make a decision after you did read official forums and many comments about games, about people opinions and so on. But at the end you have to test it by yourself.

    Just look at GW2 for example, the forums, the reviews the hypemeter was overall positive and I did buy the game since I thought, overall the game seems to be interesint. At the end the game was ok but I didnt stick with it...so the only review which count at the end is the one by yourself. You can only get a certain trend about a game from reviews and player opinions. And GW2 is just one example only, there were many other game releases which had good reviews but did just not deliver when it comes to your own taste of games.

    I just want to say I would not give more weight to a single person who reviews, it is just a part of the info you gather about a game. But some give more weight to such "Gurus".

  • Brabbit1987Brabbit1987 Member UncommonPosts: 782
    Originally posted by spizz
    Originally posted by Brabbit1987
    Originally posted by spizz
    Originally posted by Malevil
    Originally posted by spizz
    Originally posted by Dihoru
    Originally posted by spizz

     

     

    Why should someone listen to a "GI Joe" reviewer on youtube, he just has his personal opinion about games he talks about.

    The best review is actually when you test the game by yourself and draw conclusions.

    And by that point you have been suckered into buying the game paying for sub. By that logic you should totally fall for every scam imaginable because everyone else is wrong until you see for yourself.

     

    Thats the risk buying every game.

    I would be suckered if I just would listen to a single person or magazin. Read forums and player reactions after release, read about many reactions and you still have the risk you wont like a game. Thats how it is.

    You contradict yourself, you say I should read forums and watch vides if I'm not sure. But thats what I'm doing when I watch this video ... negative review is review too and honestly last thing i want to watch when im undecided, is video of some fanboy.

    Noone will decide just becouse  1 reviewer doesnt like the game. Everybody is biased. But there are real things outside of gameplay that will cause many ppl to not touch TESO. For me its that bullshit with collector edition and exclusive race in it - for sub game thats simply ripoff.

     

    The most important is to play and test games by yourself, seems like this guy is for many like a "Guru" and I dont follow gurus.

    To be honest, this statement that many like to use, actually doesn't make any sense. You are essentially saying people are not smart enough to know what they would or wouldn't like based on what they have heard and seen.

    What about games that are similar? We have experience in playing other games, it's not like this would be our first. So why does it require for you to literally have to play it yourself for a you to be able to make a proper judgement? 

    You are right though, the best way is to play it yourself. However, you are forgetting the cost. Why pay $60 - $80 on something you already believe you will not like?

     

    Of course you will make a decision after you did read official forums and many comments about games, about people opinions and so on. But at the end you have to test it by yourself.

    Just look at GW2 for example, the forums, the reviews the hypemeter was overall positive and I did buy the game since I thought, overall the game seems to be interesint. At the end the game was ok but I didnt stick with it...so the only review which count at the end is the one by yourself. You can only get a certain trend about a game from reviews and player opinions. And GW2 is just one example only, there were many other game releases which had good reviews but did just not deliver when it comes to your own taste of games.

    I just want to say I would not give more weight to a single person who reviews, it is just a part of the info you gather about a game. But some give more weight to such "Gurus".

    Well I personally do not rely on words alone from some reviewer. I watch gameplay footage of people actually playing it. LP videos is a very good way to get an idea of how you would like a game.

    I not once ever felt I needed to personally play the game to get a general idea, nor have I ever purchased a game that I looked into that turned out bad. At least not one that I can think of at the moment .... Oh actually I take that back. Tera Online, utter waste of money. I purchased 2 copies, CE edition, and standard edition for friend. Think it was 4 or 6 months that I payed for .. don't remember.

    The fact it went F2P .. destroyed my views on the P2P model. Never again will I play a P2P game again. Not willing to take that risk.

  • Ender4Ender4 Member UncommonPosts: 2,247

    If you are undecided just wait a year and play it when it goes B2P and there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that it will within the first year.

  • MyriaMyria Member UncommonPosts: 699
    Originally posted by jpnz

    Angryjoe and Totalbiscuit are the only 2 that I would trust whatever they say.

    Totalbiscuit did an early look at vid for Defiance and thought it was a fantastic game.

     

    While I'll grant that Defiance is pretty fun for a (very short) while, even its most ardent defenders admit to it having a very short shelf life, bugs galore, a plethora of head scratchingly bad design decisions, and some of the most laughable DLC this side of horse armor.

     

    While TB and, to a much lesser extent, Joe can be entertaining, I cannot for the life of me imagine why anyone would take their opinions seriously.

     

    Especially where MMOs are concerned.

  • ArthasmArthasm Member UncommonPosts: 785
    If you don't have personal opinion and taste and need to listen, watch and read what Biscuits, Cookies, Joes and Bills think about game, I think I have bad news for you...
  • DihoruDihoru Member Posts: 2,731
    Originally posted by Myria
    Originally posted by jpnz

    Angryjoe and Totalbiscuit are the only 2 that I would trust whatever they say.

    Totalbiscuit did an early look at vid for Defiance and thought it was a fantastic game.

     

    While I'll grant that Defiance is pretty fun for a (very short) while, even its most ardent defenders admit to it having a very short shelf life, bugs galore, a plethora of head scratchingly bad design decisions, and some of the most laughable DLC this side of horse armor.

     

    While TB and, to a much lesser extent, Joe can be entertaining, I cannot for the life of me imagine why anyone would take their opinions seriously.

     

    Especially where MMOs are concerned.

    And TB does not do reviews or even previews, he does first impressions, get the story straight at least.

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  • TelondarielTelondariel Member Posts: 1,001
    Originally posted by DMKano
    Originally posted by Telondariel

    He's a guy.  With an opinion.

    Except that his opinion carries  a ton more weight that just some random dude.

    He gets a ton of views, so his social influence factor is quite high.

    I mean when it comes to it - every reviewer is just a guy/girl with an opinion right? Their opinions shape the public opinion, that's what media does - it can sway public opinion in a huge way.

    Good word of mouth can help games sell a lot, bad word of mouth kills game sales dead.

    Only if you let other people make your mind up for you.

     

    However, there is a population out there of non-critical thinkers.  Those are the people that he aims for, and those people seem to listen to him.  So, in that regard you are correct.  He has a following that will make decisions, and come here to echo his position, simply because he said so.

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  • RusqueRusque Member RarePosts: 2,785
    Originally posted by DMKano
    Originally posted by Telondariel

    He's a guy.  With an opinion.

    Except that his opinion carries  a ton more weight that just some random dude.

    He gets a ton of views, so his social influence factor is quite high.

    I mean when it comes to it - every reviewer is just a guy/girl with an opinion right? Their opinions shape the public opinion, that's what media does - it can sway public opinion in a huge way.

    Good word of mouth can help games sell a lot, bad word of mouth kills game sales dead.

    Isn't that the problem with much of our media? Their have great reach and influence but they have abandoned all responsibility for providing balanced views because negativity sells so much better. Headlines are sensational because they get clicks, Angry Joe is negative because it grows his audience which is his living. If  Angry Joe was "Moderate and Thoughtful Joe" he wouldn't have a following, cause honestly his biggest talent is his big mouth.

  • TelondarielTelondariel Member Posts: 1,001
    Originally posted by Rusque
    Originally posted by DMKano
    Originally posted by Telondariel

    He's a guy.  With an opinion.

    Except that his opinion carries  a ton more weight that just some random dude.

    He gets a ton of views, so his social influence factor is quite high.

    I mean when it comes to it - every reviewer is just a guy/girl with an opinion right? Their opinions shape the public opinion, that's what media does - it can sway public opinion in a huge way.

    Good word of mouth can help games sell a lot, bad word of mouth kills game sales dead.

    Isn't that the problem with much of our media? Their have great reach and influence but they have abandoned all responsibility for providing balanced views because negativity sells so much better. Headlines are sensational because they get clicks, Angry Joe is negative because it grows his audience which is his living. If  Angry Joe was "Moderate and Thoughtful Joe" he wouldn't have a following, cause honestly his biggest talent is his big mouth.

    Yup.  LIke I mentioned earlier, his material is aimed at a specific audience and he has a very strong bias.  Not at all a credible source, but certainly entertaining for those that follow him.  It's like FOX news, really.

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  • Brabbit1987Brabbit1987 Member UncommonPosts: 782
    Originally posted by Telondariel
    Originally posted by Rusque
    Originally posted by DMKano
    Originally posted by Telondariel

    He's a guy.  With an opinion.

    Except that his opinion carries  a ton more weight that just some random dude.

    He gets a ton of views, so his social influence factor is quite high.

    I mean when it comes to it - every reviewer is just a guy/girl with an opinion right? Their opinions shape the public opinion, that's what media does - it can sway public opinion in a huge way.

    Good word of mouth can help games sell a lot, bad word of mouth kills game sales dead.

    Isn't that the problem with much of our media? Their have great reach and influence but they have abandoned all responsibility for providing balanced views because negativity sells so much better. Headlines are sensational because they get clicks, Angry Joe is negative because it grows his audience which is his living. If  Angry Joe was "Moderate and Thoughtful Joe" he wouldn't have a following, cause honestly his biggest talent is his big mouth.

    Yup.  LIke I mentioned earlier, his material is aimed at a specific audience and he has a very strong bias.  Not at all a credible source, but certainly entertaining for those that follow him.  It's like FOX news, really.

    Well for him being biased a lot of other people seems to have same exact impression as he does. Guess everyone who agrees with him must be biased right? You know .. because people are not allowed to not like something with out being biased.

  • lunatiquezlunatiquez Member UncommonPosts: 381

    Apparently, Massively labeled ESO as "absolutely nothing special". I really didn't expect that the press are so determined to bash the game this hard. I thought that it'll be the otherwise.

    http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/02/07/the-elder-scrolls-online-beta-is-absolutely-nothing-special/

  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004
    Originally posted by Brabbit1987
    Originally posted by Telondariel
    Originally posted by Rusque
    Originally posted by DMKano
    Originally posted by Telondariel

    He's a guy.  With an opinion.

    Except that his opinion carries  a ton more weight that just some random dude.

    He gets a ton of views, so his social influence factor is quite high.

    I mean when it comes to it - every reviewer is just a guy/girl with an opinion right? Their opinions shape the public opinion, that's what media does - it can sway public opinion in a huge way.

    Good word of mouth can help games sell a lot, bad word of mouth kills game sales dead.

    Isn't that the problem with much of our media? Their have great reach and influence but they have abandoned all responsibility for providing balanced views because negativity sells so much better. Headlines are sensational because they get clicks, Angry Joe is negative because it grows his audience which is his living. If  Angry Joe was "Moderate and Thoughtful Joe" he wouldn't have a following, cause honestly his biggest talent is his big mouth.

    Yup.  LIke I mentioned earlier, his material is aimed at a specific audience and he has a very strong bias.  Not at all a credible source, but certainly entertaining for those that follow him.  It's like FOX news, really.

    Well for him being biased a lot of other people seems to have same exact impression as he does. Guess everyone who agrees with him must be biased right? You know .. because people are not allowed to not like something with out being biased.

    Everyone has their own opinions, all their doing is giving their own, I think, what has been happening is that quite often, the opinions given by people like Angry Joe, and Total Biscuit, are ones that are broadly in line with that of a significant percentage of players, and although i don't always agree with everything they say, more often than not i either do, or can appreciate why they feel the way they do. That they both have fairly large a fairly large following is probably for that very reason.image

  • xpiherxpiher Member UncommonPosts: 3,310
    Originally posted by inemosz

    Apparently, Massively labeled ESO as "absolutely nothing special". I really didn't expect that the press are so determined to bash the game this hard. I thought that it'll be the otherwise.

    http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/02/07/the-elder-scrolls-online-beta-is-absolutely-nothing-special/

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    GW 1 - Xpiher Duminous
    Darkfall - Xpiher Duminous (NA) retired
    AoC - Xpiher (Tyranny) retired
    Warhammer - Xpiher

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