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Poll: What is your favourite mmo combat system?
PioneerStew
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Poll below. This is specifically about combat so I have not included any options to the affect of preferring activities other than combat.
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I'm mostly in agreement with that, ESO (at least in beta) wasn't so bad, but it did feel like it might as well have just been tab. It would probably look and sound better that way. GW2 and stuff like that with all that dodging,etc, just feels too unresponsive to me to enjoy.
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Which is pretty much your hybrid.
I voted tab targeting (to on one's surprise, I'm sure). Turn based would be my preference, but have not seen it implemented well, except Wizard101, which uses spell decks.
I miss initiative, strategic movement, and planning ahead from pen and paper RPG days, instead act/react.
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Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.- FARGIN_WAR
What's the difference between Action and FPS/TPS?
Twitch combat is always my preference, but usually the games that do, everything else in the game sucks (looking at you TERA).
So I don't mind playing tab-targeting, it isn't my first choice though.
Action combat involves movement and cross-hair targetting, in games such as WS, ESO, TERA etc. However, it usually involves a number of melee classes and often involves telegraphing. It is generally more static than FPS with dodges only required when a big flashing warning tells you. It also usually involves a rotation based on key-assigned skills.
We've all played FPS/ TPS games and I think there is quite a clear difference in the fluidity of the combat. Where there are key-assigned skills they tend to be support and reactionary rather than a clear rotation. Mobs generally have better AI and the targeting is more involved than swinging in their general vicinity. There is usually some interaction with the environment which can be used as cover.
For obvious reasons FPS is much harder to incorporate into an mmo which is why we have seen few examples and only recently.
It depends on the game type. And most of the time I addept to it's combat system. I just don't have a favorite combat system within MMORPG's
Likewise, but in most mmo's I play I find that the combat does not quite fit.
When I play SWTOR I really find myself wishing for more action combat/ TPS as it would have suited the game better. ESO felt like it should have been tab-targeting as someone said earlier. GW2 I just get fed up of watching my character fling itself around like nutjob. Someone also mentioned W101 above, both this and P101 really work as turn-based games.
But my preference will always be for TPS.
Tab targeting. I'm not big into the Action Combat/ Console mechanics fad going around. I do enjoy ESO and I think they have the best action combat out there (besides maybe TERA) but I prefer good old tab target combat at the end of the day. It's just more fun to me and more strategic than everyone wildly swinging their sword and such as is most action combat games.
Currently Playing: ESO and FFXIV
Have played: You name it
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I'm basically the same. I enjoy all different types of combat to include what was listed as choices. If the overall game is fun then I will play it regardless of the combat type. I know that kind of doesn't really answer the OP, but if a tab targeting game's combat is fun then I will play it. Same with action combat. A lot of games have either of those two choices, as an example, but not all MMOs do them in a fun or intuitive way as far as I'm concerned.
In other words, there is no one way to do tab targeting, action combat, etc... to make a hard choice amongst them. Some are done well and others aren't. Thus sometimes I like them and sometimes I don't.
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Combat system is irrelevant, as long as i have a good reason to be in combat other that "i want to wtfpwn noobs" or "just have some fun".
Combat in MMO is just one of the tools, not the main focus of a game.
All kinds of systems listed in OP are ok if designed properly.
If it ain't broke don't fix it, tab target ftw
It just feels natural to have tab targeting to me.
Ultimately the combat system itself isn't that important, it's how it's executed. Just because you have tab-targetting doesn't mean you have to be frozen to the ground for 10 seconds each time you use a skill etc.
Overall, i like the combat system of Vindictus the most. You really had to learn the boss. Most other games, if you are one tier behind the latest set, you got no chance fighting anything. In Vindictus, gear allows you to have less skill, but it won't win the fight for you. And if you got skill..i could solo some of the easier bosses, but nothing past Titan and Thor (hero difficulty of course). And i had full level 80 equipment etc. I could have got a bit more gear, like, a +15 weapon and so, but that would just mean i would win 3 out of 100 fights instead of 2. And some guys fight even the Vampire bosses or Iset solo..naked. Some are actually faster then a full group.
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I felt that ESO was tab-on-mouseover, I could not miss those darn wolves if I tried.
My preference was for original DFO, shoot straight up, take two steps forward, wait for it, and the arrow hits your head. That, and the near ubiquitous use of blinds, blinds blinds, as the standard for CC.
I enjoy both Action Combat and Tab Targeting. FWIW, Tab Targeting does have a way of neutralizing twitch, making combat more about tactics and strategy, than twitch control.
Actually... that was you flinging your character around like a nut job. I have never said this before... but you should learn to play instead of blaming the game. Your character didn't just fling himself around randomly.
Controllers work really well with a PC.