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100% This^
While the price for ship is ridicously high i try to chip in now and then for the ideea of having the game seeing light.
My advice: get one ship that you like for playstile and that you can afford and for the rest see how you enjoy the arena and make your own mind.
They have more than enough money to develop the game for the next few years.
..Cake..
So far the development seems to be CR's vision and a whole lot more given the amount of funds received from backers.
obviously you have no clue what a triple A budget is, it starts at 100$ million and goes up to 265$ million (GTA5)
Star Citizen should reach 100$ million by release, hopefully more and with constant cashflow to finance continued expansions
So what does that make Destiny? Would it be a quadruple A game? Or would it be Quituple? Since it's like a $500 million game.
Crazkanuk
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I think the main thing most people don't realize is that the majority of the backers of SC are happy and what has been brought to the table so far. The unsatisfied and discontent make up such a small number of contributors and many of the people with a negative attitude towards SC don't own a ship or have not supported the development in any way.
The current supporters can and will be more than enough to support the development of the game. The game already hosts a community of the most professional, mature, and intelligent people I have yet to see in an MMO community. The amount of fan and community based productivity is already greater than that of any game I have ever played, I'm pretty sure I have played just about all of them released in the West.
Most of the complaints and negative comments are laughable to people that keep themselves educated.
Well said..:)
There's nothing terribly wrong with the flight model currently. You need to learn how to fly a spaceship in space and not a plane. Start using the systems on your ship to understand the sim part of the module. There will be more systems online in your ship then you'll possibly know how to deal with in a dogfight...learn it.
6DoF was not added because anyone cried for it..it wasn't implemented until it worked properly(if it's even in the verse yet).
Many players with HOTAS have learned to fly with those setups and can easily outgun a mouse/keyboard user.
The racing will be an awesome diversion and a possible inclusion to the PU and will be a part of SC lore. Live with it.
Yes, the AC may feel arcadey atm, but that is for the purpose of testing and easy access for everyone for more testing. It's all about testing!
They presented on Gamescom
First Person Shooter footage (trailer),
Multiplayer Racing footage (live gameplay),
Mulitcrew Ship operation footage (live gameplay)
New hangar walkthoughs (live gameplay)
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I made this post way before GamesCon.
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We all know what is shown and what happens at GamesCon or E3 is not what get's delivered on release.
It is awesome that you are so concerned about how people spend their money. Wish I knew you when I was back in college...
That Guild Wars 2 login screen knocked up my wife. Must be the second coming!
I support this post! Oh and https://robertsspaceindustries.com/funding-goals soon at the 52mil mark and The BB-12.
The BB-12 is a brand new Manned Maneuvering Unit from Azure Sky Aero. Whether you are engaging in precision mining operations or delicate salvage retrieval, the BB-12 is capable of EVA operation for six uninterrupted hours. This new model features twenty-four precision nozzle thrusters and two redesigned heavy-duty tanks of gaseous nitrogen propellant, capable of being hot-swapped while on the drift or refueled back on the ship. With the BB-12, Azure Sky has once again cemented their place as the premier EVA tech provider.
Heheh either is the greatest flop in gaming history, or it will be remembered as something groundbreakingly epic.
I put my money where my mouth is and keep paying for this even if it turns out to be the titanic, I will be happy to have been apart in building such a epic ship. It's history in the making eitherway!
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Hang on, hang on.
First of all, you have absolutely no statistics to back up any " the majority" or " the minority" claims, so let's not start pulling numbers out of our....hats.
Second, your personal experiences when it comes to online gaming communities is noted and respected. However, since this varies from person to person, it is by no means an argument when it comes to a game that hasn't been released yet. Recent trends would include games like Elder Scrolls Online and Wildstar, where, pre-release, people were all friendly and cuddly, whereas after the games were released, the ugly heads started to take over the forums and whatnot.
Lastly, you state that any complaints are made by stupid people (educated people laugh at complaints and negative comments). This is quite an outrageous statement and actually goes against your previous comments.
You see, even though the ships released so far will fund the game nicely, which is a good thing, it has been their forefront when it comes to development. Releasing ships that people can buy that will be in the game anyway. I personally, as a backer, find this extremely frustrating. Not because I can't buy the ships (I can), but because I would like to see some more stuff I can actually sink my teeth in, other than the Arena Commander module and Hangar. I want to to touch game mechanics, game worlds. Not be teased with heaps of ships that they could add at any point later on.
I think it's a valid complaint. You are free to disagree with that, but for the love of god, get off your high horse.
It would only be a valid complaint if modelling these ships removed development time from the core game code itself, which - unless they have a very weird set up - simply will not be the case.
The whole 'more ships is bad and that is the reason the game is not out yet' attitude that so many people seem to of adopted is quite hilarious.
The problem with the flight model is it's simplicity. All you need to do is fly around and turret in space. You can turn and point in any direction in a very short amount of time... hence the need for chasing someone around and struggling to keep him in your sights is lost. There's plenty of videos from experienced flight-sim pilots showcasing this problem.
Oh please..."easily outgun"... m&k is arguably the most effective way of killing people in SC. For every video of a good HOTAS pilot I can show you a good m&k pilot. Try doing that in any other flight/space sim. And Hotas still doesn't behave in AC as it does in other games... they still need to fix that.
Well it's great that CIG is already creating "diversions" instead of the actual gameplay of the PU... considering how far into development they are :rollseyes:
So again, are you saying that the PU will fly differently ? It's the same ships/same sounds/same movement/same guns etc etc
..Cake..
The main selling point of Star Citizen right now is ships. It always was.
The hangar came first so you could see the ships you bought.
The ship advertisments are considered more important than videos showing gameplay.
Ships Ships Ships
They're selling ships for real currency now, they'll be selling ships for real currency after release.
Enjoy.
..Cake..
" We all know what is shown and what happens at GamesCon or E3 is not what get's delivered on release "
care to provide links and proof that everything shown at E3, Gamecon, or Pax is heavily scripted and does not represent actual gameplay mechanics?
without links, video, or any other form of proof, anything you post is nothing more than your opinion.
I think folks are not actually understanding what is going on right now at this very moment.
The game is not even in alpha development stage at this point. They have broken down sections of the game into modules to test just like every other game company out there.
What CIG is doing different is letting everyone who pre-purchased the game (a single ship package) help with the testing process. First the Hangar, then the Arena Commander single player, then multiplayer.
What everyone is seeing is the work in progress before the AAA game companies say "We are in Alpha, spend $250 to be a part of the testing team" like many games out there and in the past (ArchAge who has been launched for well over a year and still no inverted Y Axis).
For example, I was playing Destiny beta week. It seemed ok, somewhat polished, but you could only do so many missions and get to level 8. If people played sections of the game in it's development a year ago, I imagine folks would be screaming that it will fail. I am still on the fence, but hey, Bungie has deep pockets.
This game is 100% funded by the public. No one can tell CIG what to do, or how to do it. This gives them complete freedom, and the game still looks stellar. People may not like the controls, guess what,,, the game is not in alpha stage yet! If you want to make a change, then head over to the official forums and make your case in a level headed manner. The company has made changes, some good, some meh, because players made suggestions and they listened.
This is not Elite Dangerous or EVE. It's Star Citizen.
Like all games, if you do not like it, why bother with it?
Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you.
no links to prove it is a scam = baseless opinion.
nothing to take seriously here
Really? Almost every game changes from the sparkly, feature rich version running on beefy developer machines they show on E3 showroom floors. Most notorious recent example is WatchDogs which changed so dramatically that it caused a huge uproar in the gaming community.
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Come on man, E3 is a trade show, you clearly never been there or you would know that it is in fact a SHOW in the most literal sense down to the laughable "best of show" awards.
my bad, I meant proof of everything Star Citizen has shown at E3, Gamescon, or Pax.
publishers like Electronic Arts, Ubisoft, or Zenimax show heavily scripted footage so they look good. everything Cloud Imperium has been showing since the Arena Commander reveal at E3 has been in engine footage, bugs and all.
Not sure you're after here..is there something that defines more/less arcade action? I fail to see how the ship visuals,game sounds, movements or weapons make the game more or less of a sim. There will be a variety of sounds and visuals in the released game and each ship will fly differently. The amount of weapons and items available in the PU will most likely be staggering(like it is in Eve). What the hell do you want in the game?
Flying in the PU will be a lot different then the AC because we'll be flying in the verse and not a closed arena. Of course the flight strategies will be different.
Racing will be a part of the PU as well and is a big part of lore and gameplay.
The HOTAS setups are obviously being worked on in alpha, but will be seriously refined by the time the game goes live.
It's not the flight model that will change, but the inclusion of multiplayer ships, onboard ship systems and flying tactics that will be defining factors on whether you survive or not.
The FPS part of the game will add an entirely different experience as well especially for guilds.
The fact that there are many teams working on the different systems for the final game makes me believe it will all get done as intended...
A lot of these games take from 3 to 6 years before they come out and during that time and right after, there will be lots of changes. I think I'll wait till the games out to see see what it's worth. The parts I've seen do look good.
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