You guys are really dense and honestly, just stuck in the past lol
Gamers have been playing Star Citizen and many other alpha or early access games as their main source of entertainment for years and paying for that privilege.
The notion of "finished" or "released" is irrelevant when gamers are already able to pay the same to enjoy the game now.
If you can't or don't want to is irrelevant for anyone but you.
..and more gaslighting.
People who complain about unfinished products, who are concerned about multiple missed release dates, who are concerned about cash wrapped up in a game for a decade with no release date in sight are "dense".
And yet another ridiculous equation of "released" vs. "alpha" not being important: Hey, if you can have 1,000 hrs. of work wiped in the name of alpha that's pretty dang important and a significant difference between alpha and release. Go ahead and be a fan of the game. This site is all about being a fan of video games.
Calling other people stupid for perfectly valid concerns? Not so much.
People complain about everything. Doesn't mean they matter or we should give them confort lol.
Many games release and make millions and have players pour thousands of dollars and hours in them and then die after one year or two and that " investment" is lost forever.
Multiple games reset progress with seasons.
Its all about the fun.
As long enough People have fun playing/paying for a game that enables the company to update it will thrive and evolve while rendering haters and crybabies into their insignificant useless noise and insignificance.
"RSI is conducting a crowdfunding campaign to support the development of the Game and the related RSI Services. You do not purchase anything, you make a pledge towards the development of the Game and the other RSI
Services. Your pledge entitles you to receive the selected in-game
items when they are developed and introduced into the Alpha releases of
Star Citizen and/or to receive the game Squadron 42, as selected. Please
read this clause carefully to understand the differences between
crowdfunding and a purchase."
According to RSI, the game is in development and is not released for sale.
Angry Gamers and their entitlement will never disapear. It's part of the gamer culture. Some people take greater joy of being miserable at what could have been than moving on and finding fun actually playing games.
Angry Gamers and their entitlement will never disapear. It's part of the gamer culture. Some people take greater joy of being miserable at what could have been than moving on and finding fun actually playing games.
Ahh well, they insult a game, you insult people. Yet you feel like 'the bigger man,' funny how tone deaf you really are. They might contribute little, you contribute less. I guess like those angry gamers you too will never disappear.
/Cheers, Lahnmir
'the only way he could nail it any better is if he used a cross.'
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
Hopefully the latest batch of funding will help push them over the edge. They were really miracle workers trying to develop such a big game with so little money.
Angry Gamers and their entitlement will never disapear. It's part of the gamer culture. Some people take greater joy of being miserable at what could have been than moving on and finding fun actually playing games.
Ahh well, they insult a game, you insult people. Yet you feel like 'the bigger man,' funny how tone deaf you really are. They might contribute little, you contribute less. I guess like those angry gamers you too will never disappear.
/Cheers, Lahnmir
They don't insult the game , they insult everything that goes into making games. Either they get it or not.
There will be a time where most gamers will understand how much it takes to make their entertainment possible and enable them to apreciate dev's work.
If you look at it from a business perspective instead of a hobbie you'll be closer to understand why games you dont like will keep on being developed.
You guys are really dense and honestly, just stuck in the past lol
Gamers have been playing Star Citizen and many other alpha or early access games as their main source of entertainment for years and paying for that privilege.
The notion of "finished" or "released" is irrelevant when gamers are already able to pay the same to enjoy the game now.
If you can't or don't want to is irrelevant for anyone but you.
How is asking how more money they need to FINISH THE GAME being stuck in the past? By definition it is a forward looking question. The issue is that I am just looking further down the track than you are. You are looking 5 ft in front of the train and saying "It's still moving!". I am looking much further down to see how much father it has to move.
Alpha means that the game is still in a testing period. It 'even reached BETA yet.
And again it is NOT irrelevant because it is no even close to being complete and much that was promised has yet to be delivered, including a whole second game that was part of the SC42 Kickstarter.
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You guys are really dense and honestly, just stuck in the past lol
Gamers have been playing Star Citizen and many other alpha or early access games as their main source of entertainment for years and paying for that privilege.
The notion of "finished" or "released" is irrelevant when gamers are already able to pay the same to enjoy the game now.
If you can't or don't want to is irrelevant for anyone but you.
How is asking how more money they need to FINISH THE GAME being stuck in the past? By definition it is a forward looking question. The issue is that I am just looking further down the track than you are. You are looking 5 ft in front of the train and saying "It's still moving!". I am looking much further down to see how much father it has to move.
Alpha means that the game is still in a testing period. It 'even reached BETA yet.
And again it is NOT irrelevant because it is no even close to being complete and much that was promised has yet to be delivered, including a whole second game that was part of the SC42 Kickstarter.
Never in gaming history has a gaming company accomplished so little with so much free money.
Angry Gamers and their entitlement will never disapear. It's part of the gamer culture. Some people take greater joy of being miserable at what could have been than moving on and finding fun actually playing games.
Ahh well, they insult a game, you insult people. Yet you feel like 'the bigger man,' funny how tone deaf you really are. They might contribute little, you contribute less. I guess like those angry gamers you too will never disappear.
/Cheers, Lahnmir
They don't insult the game , they insult everything that goes into making games. Either they get it or not.
There will be a time where most gamers will understand how much it takes to make their entertainment possible and enable them to apreciate dev's work.
If you look at it from a business perspective instead of a hobbie you'll be closer to understand why games you dont like will keep on being developed.
But here is the problem with your logic, you are in absolutely no position to make that call or judge them. you have no extra insight, information or intelligence that could make you more knowledgeable then anyone else around here, none. The only thing you have is a different opinion which you are constantly trying to sell for much more then it is actually worth, which is just as little as everybody elses'. You deploy gaslighting, name calling and other low level trolling tactics but place yourself on some high horse and 'in the know.' I called you tone deaf, I think that is the nicest there is to say about how you present yourself and present your opinions. You try to win this on attitude, I have yet to meet another forum poster who is impressed.
/Cheers, Lahnmir
'the only way he could nail it any better is if he used a cross.'
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
But here is the problem with your logic, you are in absolutely no position to make that call or judge them.
Sure I am, and there is no problem whatsoever. A game is being developed and it will be ready when it's ready. No amount of forum nagging will change any of that. That's just the way it is.
MMORPG.com need to hire a psychologist to psycho-analyze then write about the compounding trauma/neglect/life choices it takes to then allow a person to overlook the blatantly obvious but still put copious amounts of money into it.
All this game truly is, is forum fodder so folks can duel it out with words.
The game will never be completed as promised and no amount of white knighting will change that.
Good thing they promised to make the best space game possible and they've been delivering in spades
They haven't "delivered" in terms of a finished product, in fact I don't think they've delivered to test any part of the two games which they consider as finished, or "done" as it were
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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But here is the problem with your logic, you are in absolutely no position to make that call or judge them.
Sure I am, and there is no problem whatsoever. A game is being developed and it will be ready when it's ready. No amount of forum nagging will change any of that. That's just the way it is.
I am glad we agree, a game is being developed and, once finished, can be properly judged for what it is. Not what it will be in the future, not what what was promised, but for what it is. We can then judge its performance, content, how buggy it is etc.
And if it turns out amazing no amount of hating will change that, and if it turns out horrible no amount of white knighting will change that. Judging it for what it is right now through the lens of a ‘released product’ is pure madness though, haters focus only on the bad while white knights focus only on the good and both will probably change tremendously before full release. We all know how dumb the haters are, lucky for you that you are above that petty bickering and not white knighting at all. That must be because you understand game development so well
Ohh, there is of course also the possibility that these games won’t be making it to full release at all. I guess we can then hear about ‘the best game that never was’ or the classic ‘better to have tried and failed then not have tried at all.’
/Cheers, Lahnmir
'the only way he could nail it any better is if he used a cross.'
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
Ohh, there is of course also the possibility that these games won’t be making it to full release at all. I guess we can then hear about ‘the best game that never was’ or the classic ‘better to have tried and failed then not have tried at all.’
/Cheers, Lahnmir
In the unlikely event the game fails the white knights will never admit it, regardless of the size of the smoking crater it leaves. In the event they do admit failure it will be because of the "haters" who never gave absolute perfection a chance.
I've read the script enough to know the ending. Don't worry about me missing it - shall I get some popcorn for you while I'm up?
What I'm more afraid of is that the game sucks/is subpar, and people get all indignant and try to sue. It could be an idea easily surmised from the CoE situation, just tragically stupider.
A bunch of paypigs could set a bad precedent for suing because there's no way they could win.
It might be unlikely, but then again CIG has made almost half a billion off these smart fellows.
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
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Many games release and make millions and have players pour thousands of dollars and hours in them and then die after one year or two and that " investment" is lost forever.
Multiple games reset progress with seasons.
Its all about the fun.
As long enough People have fun playing/paying for a game that enables the company to update it will thrive and evolve while rendering haters and crybabies into their insignificant useless noise and insignificance.
That's just the way it is.
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2024: 47 years on the Net.
/Cheers,
Lahnmir
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
There will be a time where most gamers will understand how much it takes to make their entertainment possible and enable them to apreciate dev's work.
If you look at it from a business perspective instead of a hobbie you'll be closer to understand why games you dont like will keep on being developed.
Alpha means that the game is still in a testing period. It 'even reached BETA yet.
And again it is NOT irrelevant because it is no even close to being complete and much that was promised has yet to be delivered, including a whole second game that was part of the SC42 Kickstarter.
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017.
Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
Never in gaming history has a gaming company accomplished so little with so much free money.
/Cheers,
Lahnmir
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
Sure I am, and there is no problem whatsoever. A game is being developed and it will be ready when it's ready. No amount of forum nagging will change any of that. That's just the way it is.
MMORPG.com need to hire a psychologist to psycho-analyze then write about the compounding trauma/neglect/life choices it takes to then allow a person to overlook the blatantly obvious but still put copious amounts of money into it.
All this game truly is, is forum fodder so folks can duel it out with words.
Not sure that's even a goal of theirs anymore.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
Ohh, there is of course also the possibility that these games won’t be making it to full release at all. I guess we can then hear about ‘the best game that never was’ or the classic ‘better to have tried and failed then not have tried at all.’
/Cheers,
Lahnmir
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
A bunch of paypigs could set a bad precedent for suing because there's no way they could win.
It might be unlikely, but then again CIG has made almost half a billion off these smart fellows.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
EDIT- I found it: