Haven't read any of the prior responses. Too many to read but I'm sure its been said before. $15.00 = .50 per day for hours of entertainment. You probably throw away more money than that every day. One two topping pizza cost more and lord knows most of you could do without another pizza ... but you don't and you pay for it willingly. Need i say more?
And yet in only 2 big games people find those 15$ worth it. And it is measly sum of money.
NO, it s NOT on me, YOU want to use FFXIV as example of game that merits a sub YOU have to prove that they added cash shop just because of greed.
The games that we KNOW merit a sub are WoW and EvE (and some smaller games).
For FFXIV we have some random forum posters claiming so without anything to back it up.
I am simply saying cash shop does not equal financial trouble. I don't have to prove this: everybody knows this. It's like having to prove water is wet. You on the other hand say cash shop does equal financial trouble in this case. It's your argument to prove bud. Until you prove it there is simply no cause-effect relationship.
Why are you so completely incapable of understanding this?
Yeah, random forum poster makes baseless claims and then ask others to prove otherwise. Pure gold.
Dude. ANYONE can make any number of baseless claims, but only handful of specific people will, again, baslessly support those claims.
Until you present official numbers that backs up YOUR claims, further debate is just for amusement of the audience.
Unfortunately you are completely incapable of understanding how stuff works.
So you seriously want me to prove water is wet?
You want me to prove capitalism works the way it does?
Nah, bud. Everyone of us here except you has figured out these basic concepts that you call "baseless claims". Maybe someday you will too.
"You want to claim water is wet? And even more preposterous, that earth orbits the sun? Those are baseless claims! Where's the official numbers? Where's the data?" - Malabooga
Still noting to back it up *whistle*
You certainly havent figured out what baselsess claim is since you continue to make few of those in every post you make.
As i said, amusement for the audience.
I'm sure the audience is plenty amused. It's like arguing with a North Korean at this point.
Please amuse us some more: how did you figure only 2 games "merit a sub" as "fact"? Is it a specific number of subs? The Great Leader Kim told you that? Maybe it's written in the stars
"And yet in only 2 big games people find those 15$ worth it. And it is measly sum of money.
need i say more?"
The answer is getting closer and closer. There seems to be some specific quota the game has to meet, but what could it be? Because all P2P games have people that find those 15$ worth it. Even then at some point Malabooga can say that in X game people don't find the sub worth it while in Y game they do, even if these games have the same amount of players. Maybe it all comes back to greed and need, though what he just said has nothing to do with it.
Using LOL is like saying "my argument sucks but I still want to disagree".
Originally posted by LacedOpium Haven't read any of the prior responses. Too many to read but I'm sure its been said before. $15.00 = .50 per day for hours of entertainment. You probably throw away more money than that every day. One two topping pizza cost more and lord knows most of you could do without another pizza ... but you don't and you pay for it willingly. Need i say more?
And yet in only 2 big games people find those 15$ worth it. And it is measly sum of money.
need i say more?
You are so close to the correct answer, here, one more clue, if only a few titles are able to garner a sub fee from their players, what can we conclude about the quality and value provided by all of the rest of the market?
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Haven't read any of the prior responses. Too many to read but I'm sure its been said before. $15.00 = .50 per day for hours of entertainment. You probably throw away more money than that every day. One two topping pizza cost more and lord knows most of you could do without another pizza ... but you don't and you pay for it willingly. Need i say more?
And yet in only 2 big games people find those 15$ worth it. And it is measly sum of money.
need i say more?
You are so close to the correct answer, here, one more clue, if only a few titles are able to garner a sub fee from their players, what can we conclude about the quality and value provided by all of the rest of the market?
the answer is self evident of course, but that is to general: "MMOs lack quality" unless you define what quality is.
What is evident that people dont want to pay for endless time sinks and repetition. MMOs dont exist in a vacuum, entertainment, and especially online entertainment have progressed greatly in last 15 years.
While 15 years ago having "world" where many people can play together and it generally works was enough. and when WoW came out it changed to actually have some content besides scenery and mobs (and what MMOs are today since most just copied WoW).
What would be the thing that would be worth it to pay 15$ if you dont look at MMOs in a vacuum (like most tend to) today.
There are plenty of good F2P MMOs, and plenty of SP games closed enough (for me) that do not need a sub.
In fact, i doubt i will ever pay sub to any game again.
...... that word. I do not think it means what you think it means...
Anyways...There has been games worth subs, there will be again, just none of this garbage thats out now. It not all about content either, sometimes a game is about what the players make it, not about constant updates or more junk to blow through every 5 minutes, you can add content everyday and some people won't be happy, they will tear through it just as fast and complain 5 minutes later. Value is perspective. Everyone will view it different. For example, I have yet to ever play a f2p or cashshop MMO worth a junk. None of the b2p MMOs have kept my interest more than a few days.
There are plenty of good F2P MMOs, and plenty of SP games closed enough (for me) that do not need a sub.
In fact, i doubt i will ever pay sub to any game again.
...... that word. I do not think it means what you think it means...
"Good" is subjective. It means "I enjoy playing it". For example, Marvel Heroes. It may not be your cup of tea, but I enjoy it quite a bit, and there is no sub-based MMO that I would enjoy more.
Is it clear now of what the word "good" means, when I used it?
NO, it s NOT on me, YOU want to use FFXIV as example of game that merits a sub YOU have to prove that they added cash shop just because of greed.
The games that we KNOW merit a sub are WoW and EvE (and some smaller games).
For FFXIV we have some random forum posters claiming so without anything to back it up.
I am simply saying cash shop does not equal financial trouble. I don't have to prove this: everybody knows this. It's like having to prove water is wet. You on the other hand say cash shop does equal financial trouble in this case. It's your argument to prove bud. Until you prove it there is simply no cause-effect relationship.
Why are you so completely incapable of understanding this?
Yeah, random forum poster makes baseless claims and then ask others to prove otherwise. Pure gold.
Dude. ANYONE can make any number of baseless claims, but only handful of specific people will, again, baslessly support those claims.
Until you present official numbers that backs up YOUR claims, further debate is just for amusement of the audience.
Unfortunately you are completely incapable of understanding how stuff works.
So by your logic, WoW is struggling because it has a cash shop? Yeah right. The billion dollars it made last year says different. Your logic makes no sense. Cash shop does not equal financial troubles. FFXIV is doing alright. Try again.
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People are still arguing over this? I have to tell you that if you are actually arguing with someone over this you have personal issues that you should address. The question posed is asking for an opinion, not a fact. So arguing with someone over their own justification of their opinion on something is completely pointless. Why would you even try?
All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.
I get banned in the forums for games I love, so lets see if I do better in the forums for games I hate.
I enjoy the serenity of not caring what your opinion is.
Originally posted by eyelolled People are still arguing over this? I have to tell you that if you are actually arguing with someone over this you have personal issues that you should address. The question posed is asking for an opinion, not a fact. So arguing with someone over their own justification of their opinion on something is completely pointless. Why would you even try?
Because it is fun, and that is what many do over here?
Don't tell me you think people are actually trying to convince others, as opposed to engage in forum pvp.
Originally posted by eyelolled People are still arguing over this? I have to tell you that if you are actually arguing with someone over this you have personal issues that you should address. The question posed is asking for an opinion, not a fact. So arguing with someone over their own justification of their opinion on something is completely pointless. Why would you even try?
Because it is fun, and that is what many do over here?
Don't tell me you think people are actually trying to convince others, as opposed to engage in forum pvp.
fair enough.
EDIT: I probably should have argued with you on that, just for the fun of it.
All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.
I get banned in the forums for games I love, so lets see if I do better in the forums for games I hate.
I enjoy the serenity of not caring what your opinion is.
Originally posted by eyelolled People are still arguing over this? I have to tell you that if you are actually arguing with someone over this you have personal issues that you should address. The question posed is asking for an opinion, not a fact. So arguing with someone over their own justification of their opinion on something is completely pointless. Why would you even try?
Because it is fun, and that is what many do over here?
Don't tell me you think people are actually trying to convince others, as opposed to engage in forum pvp.
Originally posted by eyelolled People are still arguing over this? I have to tell you that if you are actually arguing with someone over this you have personal issues that you should address. The question posed is asking for an opinion, not a fact. So arguing with someone over their own justification of their opinion on something is completely pointless. Why would you even try?
Because it is fun, and that is what many do over here?
Don't tell me you think people are actually trying to convince others, as opposed to engage in forum pvp.
fair enough.
EDIT: I probably should have argued with you on that, just for the fun of it.
Please do. I like debate ... as long as we keep it civilized without name-calling, and personal attacks (although i tried, i am sometimes provoked and probably not 100% immune to those though ... to be fair).
Originally posted by eyelolled People are still arguing over this? I have to tell you that if you are actually arguing with someone over this you have personal issues that you should address. The question posed is asking for an opinion, not a fact. So arguing with someone over their own justification of their opinion on something is completely pointless. Why would you even try?
Because it is fun, and that is what many do over here?
Don't tell me you think people are actually trying to convince others, as opposed to engage in forum pvp.
Forum PVP is my amusement at work.
It took too much time from my work .... work can be amusing too ... however, forum pvp is much more instant gratifying, not unlike fun 15 min dungeon runs.
Originally posted by eyelolled People are still arguing over this? I have to tell you that if you are actually arguing with someone over this you have personal issues that you should address. The question posed is asking for an opinion, not a fact. So arguing with someone over their own justification of their opinion on something is completely pointless. Why would you even try?
Because it is fun, and that is what many do over here?
Don't tell me you think people are actually trying to convince others, as opposed to engage in forum pvp.
fair enough.
EDIT: I probably should have argued with you on that, just for the fun of it.
Please do. I like debate ... as long as we keep it civilized without name-calling, and personal attacks (although i tried, i am sometimes provoked and probably not 100% immune to those though ... to be fair).
But you don't debate... you derail threads and just repeat the same mantra over and over while ignoring any points other people make. You troll, hence why you got banned for so long.
But you don't debate... you derail threads and just repeat the same mantra over and over while ignoring any points other people make. You troll, hence why you got banned for so long.
By "derail", you mean airing opinions that you do not like?
But you don't debate... you derail threads and just repeat the same mantra over and over while ignoring any points other people make. You troll, hence why you got banned for so long.
By "derail", you mean airing opinions that you do not like?
No he meant derail and he is 100% correct. There's a reason why so many members have noticed this about you and pointed it out over the years, and there's also a reason why so many people have you blocked. I have even heard claims that this is not the only website where you behave this way. You call it "forum PVP" and that it is fun for you; well clearly not everyone finds what you do here "fun".
Have your fun but at least own it.
Oh and welcome back.
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But you don't debate... you derail threads and just repeat the same mantra over and over while ignoring any points other people make. You troll, hence why you got banned for so long.
By "derail", you mean airing opinions that you do not like?
No he meant derail and he is 100% correct. There's a reason why so many members have noticed this about you and pointed it out over the years, and there's also a reason why so many people have you blocked. I have even heard claims that this is not the only website where you behave this way. You call it "forum PVP" and that it is fun for you; well clearly not everyone finds what you do here "fun".
Have your fun but at least own it.
Oh and welcome back.
and apparently many don't like opinions they don't agree. But isn't forum pvp great .. there is even a pvp switch (block) and no one is forced to do it.
Haven't read any of the prior responses. Too many to read but I'm sure its been said before. $15.00 = .50 per day for hours of entertainment. You probably throw away more money than that every day. One two topping pizza cost more and lord knows most of you could do without another pizza ... but you don't and you pay for it willingly. Need i say more?
And yet in only 2 big games people find those 15$ worth it. And it is measly sum of money.
need i say more?
You are so close to the correct answer, here, one more clue, if only a few titles are able to garner a sub fee from their players, what can we conclude about the quality and value provided by all of the rest of the market?
the answer is self evident of course, but that is to general: "MMOs lack quality" unless you define what quality is.
What is evident that people dont want to pay for endless time sinks and repetition. MMOs dont exist in a vacuum, entertainment, and especially online entertainment have progressed greatly in last 15 years.
While 15 years ago having "world" where many people can play together and it generally works was enough. and when WoW came out it changed to actually have some content besides scenery and mobs (and what MMOs are today since most just copied WoW).
What would be the thing that would be worth it to pay 15$ if you dont look at MMOs in a vacuum (like most tend to) today.
Everyone is reading way too much into this. The dynamic at play is actually quite simple and I will give it to you with this analogy. If Domino's Pizza was still charging $15 for a pizza but every other pizza joint was giving them away for free, do you think people would still be buying a Domino's pizza? The answer is an emphatic no, and quality has little to do with it because although Domino's pizza might be a good pizza there are many other alternatives that while not as good quality wise, still taste good enough. And that is the dynamic at play here. There are quite a few games on the market right now that could very easily get away with a subscription. The problem is that they can not survive in a market that is saturated with a free alternative. So people have become spoiled and the result is an entitled generation of gamers who expect entertainment in this genre to be given to them for free. But free is a misnomer, because we all know that we pay more in a F2P game than a subscription game. But therein lies the bait and switch, and today's casual and uninformed player base is falling all over themselves for it.
Everyone is reading way too much into this. The dynamic at play is actually quite simple and I will give it to you with this analogy. If Domino's Pizza was still charging $15 for a pizza but every other pizza joint was giving them away for free, do you think people would still be buying a Domino's pizza? The answer is an emphatic no, and quality has little to do with it because although Domino's pizza might be a good pizza there are many other alternatives that while not as good quality wise, still taste good enough. And that is the dynamic at play here.
I don't think that's exactly true provided that Domino's pizza was waaaaayyyyy better quality than the free pizza.
there used to be a pizza place around the corner from me called "dial a pizza". I never went there because their name was "dial a pizza". One day I went by I was hungry for pizza and thought "why not". I bought two slices and after tasting them at home I realized it was a waste of money. If dial a pizza was offering free pizza and "the best" pizza place still charged I would still go wtih the best.
Now granted, the above example is an extreme. But let's say there was an ok pizza place and "the best pizza place". So for example, The "Flatbread" company at Davis Square is some of the best pizza I've ever tasted. If they charged for a whole pie but any "insert adequate pizza place here" in the area was free I would STILL buy the pizza for flatbread as it's that good.
My question is whether or not you ever pay for quality. I do.
I'm always willing to pay for quality if that quality is important to me. I'm always willing to pay for convenience as well. I have a subway pass that is automatically paid for every month. I could take the subway home on the weekend and not incur any additional charge or I could take a taxi for anywhere from $15 to $25 (depending on where I am). I will get home either way but the taxi is just better for getting door to door and I gladly pay it.
In addition, there are people who would never pay for a luxury car and who gladly pay for the best economy car because "it just has to get me from point a to point b" but there are people who will not think twice about paying for the best luxury car on the market.
You've basically just assumed something about people based upon your preferences. Something that many on these forums do all too often and why we keep getting the "I don't understand how some people ..." posts.
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I think most all should have one when dealing with an MMO, the "stores" that these PTW games that come out are making me lose all faith in MMO's. I hate it because i end up quilting, the quality shows how bad it has gotten in all MMO's SWTOR is one game I can say I have seen the least amount of quality change even tho it seem to come out slower with relevant content.
But you don't debate... you derail threads and just repeat the same mantra over and over while ignoring any points other people make. You troll, hence why you got banned for so long.
By "derail", you mean airing opinions that you do not like?
No he meant derail and he is 100% correct. There's a reason why so many members have noticed this about you and pointed it out over the years, and there's also a reason why so many people have you blocked. I have even heard claims that this is not the only website where you behave this way. You call it "forum PVP" and that it is fun for you; well clearly not everyone finds what you do here "fun".
Have your fun but at least own it.
Oh and welcome back.
I'm actually surprised he got banned, because he's the kind of person this website loves. He drives conflict with "debates" no one can win, derailing threads, getting more and more clicks for this site.
Everyone is reading way too much into this. The dynamic at play is actually quite simple and I will give it to you with this analogy. If Domino's Pizza was still charging $15 for a pizza but every other pizza joint was giving them away for free, do you think people would still be buying a Domino's pizza? The answer is an emphatic no, and quality has little to do with it because although Domino's pizza might be a good pizza there are many other alternatives that while not as good quality wise, still taste good enough. And that is the dynamic at play here.
I don't think that's exactly true provided that Domino's pizza was waaaaayyyyy better quality than the free pizza.
there used to be a pizza place around the corner from me called "dial a pizza". I never went there because their name was "dial a pizza". One day I went by I was hungry for pizza and thought "why not". I bought two slices and after tasting them at home I realized it was a waste of money. If dial a pizza was offering free pizza and "the best" pizza place still charged I would still go wtih the best.
Now granted, the above example is an extreme. But let's say there was an ok pizza place and "the best pizza place". So for example, The "Flatbread" company at Davis Square is some of the best pizza I've ever tasted. If they charged for a whole pie but any "insert adequate pizza place here" in the area was free I would STILL buy the pizza for flatbread as it's that good.
My question is whether or not you ever pay for quality. I do.
I'm always willing to pay for quality if that quality is important to me. I'm always willing to pay for convenience as well. I have a subway pass that is automatically paid for every month. I could take the subway home on the weekend and not incur any additional charge or I could take a taxi for anywhere from $15 to $25 (depending on where I am). I will get home either way but the taxi is just better for getting door to door and I gladly pay it.
In addition, there are people who would never pay for a luxury car and who gladly pay for the best economy car because "it just has to get me from point a to point b" but there are people who will not think twice about paying for the best luxury car on the market.
You've basically just assumed something about people based upon your preferences. Something that many on these forums do all to often and why we keep getting the "I don't understand how some people ..." posts.
And you've basically just assumed I was talking to you or any one person in specific when we all know that there are exceptions to every rule. I was speaking in general terms. Of course, there are exceptions. There are people that buy a maserati to get from point A to point B when a a Nissan Versa will get you there just as effectively. That highlighted portion of your post? Yeah, it describes your post to a "T." Think before you rush to type next time.
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And yet in only 2 big games people find those 15$ worth it. And it is measly sum of money.
need i say more?
I'm sure the audience is plenty amused. It's like arguing with a North Korean at this point.
Please amuse us some more: how did you figure only 2 games "merit a sub" as "fact"? Is it a specific number of subs? The Great Leader Kim told you that? Maybe it's written in the stars
"And yet in only 2 big games people find those 15$ worth it. And it is measly sum of money.
need i say more?"
The answer is getting closer and closer. There seems to be some specific quota the game has to meet, but what could it be? Because all P2P games have people that find those 15$ worth it. Even then at some point Malabooga can say that in X game people don't find the sub worth it while in Y game they do, even if these games have the same amount of players. Maybe it all comes back to greed and need, though what he just said has nothing to do with it.
And yet in only 2 big games people find those 15$ worth it. And it is measly sum of money.
need i say more?
You are so close to the correct answer, here, one more clue, if only a few titles are able to garner a sub fee from their players, what can we conclude about the quality and value provided by all of the rest of the market?"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
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the answer is self evident of course, but that is to general: "MMOs lack quality" unless you define what quality is.
What is evident that people dont want to pay for endless time sinks and repetition. MMOs dont exist in a vacuum, entertainment, and especially online entertainment have progressed greatly in last 15 years.
While 15 years ago having "world" where many people can play together and it generally works was enough. and when WoW came out it changed to actually have some content besides scenery and mobs (and what MMOs are today since most just copied WoW).
What would be the thing that would be worth it to pay 15$ if you dont look at MMOs in a vacuum (like most tend to) today.
No.
There are plenty of good F2P MMOs, and plenty of SP games closed enough (for me) that do not need a sub.
In fact, i doubt i will ever pay sub to any game again.
...... that word. I do not think it means what you think it means...
Anyways...There has been games worth subs, there will be again, just none of this garbage thats out now. It not all about content either, sometimes a game is about what the players make it, not about constant updates or more junk to blow through every 5 minutes, you can add content everyday and some people won't be happy, they will tear through it just as fast and complain 5 minutes later. Value is perspective. Everyone will view it different. For example, I have yet to ever play a f2p or cashshop MMO worth a junk. None of the b2p MMOs have kept my interest more than a few days.
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"Good" is subjective. It means "I enjoy playing it". For example, Marvel Heroes. It may not be your cup of tea, but I enjoy it quite a bit, and there is no sub-based MMO that I would enjoy more.
Is it clear now of what the word "good" means, when I used it?
So by your logic, WoW is struggling because it has a cash shop? Yeah right. The billion dollars it made last year says different. Your logic makes no sense. Cash shop does not equal financial troubles. FFXIV is doing alright. Try again.
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All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.
I get banned in the forums for games I love, so lets see if I do better in the forums for games I hate.
I enjoy the serenity of not caring what your opinion is.
I don't hate much, but I hate Apple© with a passion. If Steve Jobs was alive, I would punch him in the face.
Because it is fun, and that is what many do over here?
Don't tell me you think people are actually trying to convince others, as opposed to engage in forum pvp.
fair enough.
EDIT: I probably should have argued with you on that, just for the fun of it.
All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.
I get banned in the forums for games I love, so lets see if I do better in the forums for games I hate.
I enjoy the serenity of not caring what your opinion is.
I don't hate much, but I hate Apple© with a passion. If Steve Jobs was alive, I would punch him in the face.
Forum PVP is my amusement at work.
Please do. I like debate ... as long as we keep it civilized without name-calling, and personal attacks (although i tried, i am sometimes provoked and probably not 100% immune to those though ... to be fair).
It took too much time from my work
.... work can be amusing too ... however, forum pvp is much more instant gratifying, not unlike fun 15 min dungeon runs.
By "derail", you mean airing opinions that you do not like?
No he meant derail and he is 100% correct. There's a reason why so many members have noticed this about you and pointed it out over the years, and there's also a reason why so many people have you blocked. I have even heard claims that this is not the only website where you behave this way. You call it "forum PVP" and that it is fun for you; well clearly not everyone finds what you do here "fun".
Have your fun but at least own it.
Oh and welcome back.
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and apparently many don't like opinions they don't agree. But isn't forum pvp great .. there is even a pvp switch (block) and no one is forced to do it.
Haha welcome back nari! I knew you'd be all over this thread once your ban got lifted
Good to see you again!
Not just this one .. also the one about long vs short gaming session. But you already know that
Everyone is reading way too much into this. The dynamic at play is actually quite simple and I will give it to you with this analogy. If Domino's Pizza was still charging $15 for a pizza but every other pizza joint was giving them away for free, do you think people would still be buying a Domino's pizza? The answer is an emphatic no, and quality has little to do with it because although Domino's pizza might be a good pizza there are many other alternatives that while not as good quality wise, still taste good enough. And that is the dynamic at play here. There are quite a few games on the market right now that could very easily get away with a subscription. The problem is that they can not survive in a market that is saturated with a free alternative. So people have become spoiled and the result is an entitled generation of gamers who expect entertainment in this genre to be given to them for free. But free is a misnomer, because we all know that we pay more in a F2P game than a subscription game. But therein lies the bait and switch, and today's casual and uninformed player base is falling all over themselves for it.
I don't think that's exactly true provided that Domino's pizza was waaaaayyyyy better quality than the free pizza.
there used to be a pizza place around the corner from me called "dial a pizza". I never went there because their name was "dial a pizza". One day I went by I was hungry for pizza and thought "why not". I bought two slices and after tasting them at home I realized it was a waste of money. If dial a pizza was offering free pizza and "the best" pizza place still charged I would still go wtih the best.
Now granted, the above example is an extreme. But let's say there was an ok pizza place and "the best pizza place". So for example, The "Flatbread" company at Davis Square is some of the best pizza I've ever tasted. If they charged for a whole pie but any "insert adequate pizza place here" in the area was free I would STILL buy the pizza for flatbread as it's that good.
My question is whether or not you ever pay for quality. I do.
I'm always willing to pay for quality if that quality is important to me. I'm always willing to pay for convenience as well. I have a subway pass that is automatically paid for every month. I could take the subway home on the weekend and not incur any additional charge or I could take a taxi for anywhere from $15 to $25 (depending on where I am). I will get home either way but the taxi is just better for getting door to door and I gladly pay it.
In addition, there are people who would never pay for a luxury car and who gladly pay for the best economy car because "it just has to get me from point a to point b" but there are people who will not think twice about paying for the best luxury car on the market.
You've basically just assumed something about people based upon your preferences. Something that many on these forums do all too often and why we keep getting the "I don't understand how some people ..." posts.
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I'm actually surprised he got banned, because he's the kind of person this website loves. He drives conflict with "debates" no one can win, derailing threads, getting more and more clicks for this site.
And you've basically just assumed I was talking to you or any one person in specific when we all know that there are exceptions to every rule. I was speaking in general terms. Of course, there are exceptions. There are people that buy a maserati to get from point A to point B when a a Nissan Versa will get you there just as effectively. That highlighted portion of your post? Yeah, it describes your post to a "T." Think before you rush to type next time.