Between ESO and GW2, I can't find a game (other than SWTOR) that merits a sub when I feel that both those games offer more than enough. And now with the rumored change of Wildstar's pricing plan, I think the time for subs is going away.
Personally, I couldn't care less about WoW's sub model. I have never been a fan of the game and looking at the graphics makes my eyes hurt. Just my opinion, mind you.
Subscription MMOs can Survive when publishers and investors sink $100+ Million into an MMO. Its just too much dam money you will never get the investment out of an MMO unless you have a Cash shop. Once you go F2P/B2P you have to figure out what players are willing to spend endlessly on in a cash shop so they make money.
Actually... not even that seems to do it.
SWTOR, ESO and Wildstar are all in that budget range, yet staying sub only games didn't cut it for them.
Of the recent big budget games only FFXIV is still holding the sub only flag high. So yeah, you're right - if that one decides to convert then sub only games are pretty much completely done for.
FFXIV needed a cash shop to help out, so its not sub only.
Actually this is not true at all.
The people on the forums were asking for phantasia to be sold in a cash shop. Players actually opened the door to the cash shop. Square Enix did not have plans for a cash shop but since the players were asking for it they got it.
Originally posted by Malabooga B2P with non intrusive cash shop and paid DLCs/expansions is fairest system, to player and devloper.
I have to say that too many developers/ publishers(and players for that matter) don't seem to give a crap about 'fairest'.
Well, i never said most strive for it, but perception and goodwill can also go quite far.
And what should be strived for.
In the end, while on the turn of the century there was some justification for subs (hardware/bandwith was still quite expencive in those days), today - no way.
TOday, theres myriad of similar/same experiences out there for free, and even more alternatives for free/cheaper.
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Between ESO and GW2, I can't find a game (other than SWTOR) that merits a sub when I feel that both those games offer more than enough. And now with the rumored change of Wildstar's pricing plan, I think the time for subs is going away.
Personally, I couldn't care less about WoW's sub model. I have never been a fan of the game and looking at the graphics makes my eyes hurt. Just my opinion, mind you.
Actually its completely true.
Well, i never said most strive for it, but perception and goodwill can also go quite far.
And what should be strived for.
In the end, while on the turn of the century there was some justification for subs (hardware/bandwith was still quite expencive in those days), today - no way.
TOday, theres myriad of similar/same experiences out there for free, and even more alternatives for free/cheaper.
It is all about perception anyway. If a game is fun & free, so what if it is a little unfair, particularly if it is pve focused.