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Expansion: HoT overpriced for what you get?
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Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you.
I lost context?
"Their entire marketing campaign was centered on them being able to offer a full fledged MMORPG experience, with the price of a box. How else is one to read into that? Unless it's an outright lie?"
What part of that was not delivered?
"This may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to. Relax....."
Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you.
B2p means you pay for what you are getting. You are not getting close to 50 worth of content or dev effort when comparing to other games, plain and simple.
Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
No I'm saying what they did in the past has nothing to do with the value of an expansion... no more no less.. How you read the above into it, I have no idea.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Buyers remorse xD
https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/game/gw2/Ehh-can-I-just-get-a-refund-until-release
Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you.
Yer right...you have no idea....this time . (I've seen your other posts. you have some idea some time)
"This may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to. Relax....."
I didn't say it wasn't delivered, the argument was the box price was to pay for regular updates... so they weren't "free". It was part of the business model you were being sold on. ARe you implying as Eye was that we should somehow pay for those updates now by buying the expansion with no thought at all? I can't see what else he was saying anyway. Like we owe it to them.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Then you interpreted it wrong. I read it as box + free content...and that's what they did
"This may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to. Relax....."
Sure, I didn't say they didn't. So what is the problem? OR what am I not getting? Aside from a disagreement over what b2p means of course?
BTW we both have our interpretations of what it means obviously, claiming you're right doesn't make it so, an interpretation is a subjective analysis.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
What is notable is that Anet once again lost control of their message. Then again Anet having terrible communication is expected.
It shows what PvP games are really all about, and no, it's not about more realism and immersion. It's about cowards hiding behind a screen to they can bully other defenseless players without any risk of direct retaliation like there would be if they acted like asshats in "real life". -Jean-Luc_Picard
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Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you.
But...that is the problem. It ISN'T OPINION.
They delivered what they said. Like or dislike what they delivered....it was STILL DELIVERED!!
"This may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to. Relax....."
What exactly do you mean by factoring in? I guess I have to start at the beginning for you as you obviously haven't read the start of this exchange...
"EYE, basically said 50 dollars isn't what it used to be, and considering all Anet has offered in three years, it's absurd anyone would have a problem with paying 49.99." Paraphrased As if that's not subjective.
I offered a list of things gaming related you could get for that price.. one example being The Witcher 3, or another being games with 100+ hours of content. I sarcastically brought up the B2P model, in an attempt to point out that's how it was sold by Anet. So there's no absurdity in not taking that existing content into account when determining the value of the expansion itself. Anyone playing already paid their due for that. That's basically all I've offered in this thread, and peeps came out of the woodwork.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Internet dude...internet.
We all might be in agreement and eating cheeseburgers and drinking beer while in a great conversation otherwise
"This may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to. Relax....."
I can't really buy that excuse, I'm certainly not here to fight or forum PVP as some call it. I haven't seen the point in that in a long while. Actual debate is just a lot more interesting. For certain subjects that just seems impossible at this point though.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
It's only 50$ , come on people. Christ....
Have any detail to add to this point? I'm truly curious, as I see it all teh time, but what exactly are you saying? it's of no importance whether games are sold for what they're worth? I'm sure devs would love that idea and all, but why would players embrace it?
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
WTF! I go to a baseball game and I come back to this shit! I expected something smarter and clever from you.
Subjective Analysis my ASS!
Who the fuck gets there own interpretation to Box + Free content when it has been pretty fucking clear!
It's obvious now that you don't play the game and do not have a clue what you are talking about.
Nvm thought you were Gest. IE interpretation of content being free or apart of the box fee...IE marketing interpretation.
Want me to log in? Not that I can imagine a positive exchange. SO much hostility over a differing point of view...
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I don't have to imply anything. If you can't understand plain English then you have more issues than I have already detailed.
All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.
I get banned in the forums for games I love, so lets see if I do better in the forums for games I hate.
I enjoy the serenity of not caring what your opinion is.
I don't hate much, but I hate Apple© with a passion. If Steve Jobs was alive, I would punch him in the face.
As I have seen many of the arguments regarding the pricing of the expansion, and shared my thoughts on this countless times; I won't reiterate that here. I will say this though...if you are one of the people complaining about the price don't buy it. If you do, you pretty much made all your complaining worth nothing. Game companies don't care if you whine about something if you still actively do it anyways. It's not like they are going to say "Oh hey, all these people are whining about the expansion price, but they are still buying it...let's lower the price!"
Vote with your wallet.
Check the FAQ of today with the FAQ of 2 weeks ago. You will know. Hint: Use archive.org to check the page from 2 weeks ago
, especially the point "Do you need to own Guild Wars 2 core game to play Heart of Throns"
Can't wait for your response
By now I'm fine with the price, even considering to get ultimate to eat my own words. With that being said, ANet seriously needs a PR team. This all bad PR could've been avoided. I feel bad that some douchebags from the community decided to use this fuck up to throw shit at the devs personally (E.g. mailing Rubi with crap on her personal account, and many others).
It's okay to bitch against a corporate entity but don't fucking make it personal....
But for the sake of argument, most people in the angry mob are not annoyed at the pricing either. They could've easily thrown a bone to existing players. Hell, when I pre-ordered core Gw2 I had this Hero Band item that I delete everytime i make new toon, or that silly golem banker that disappears in a week... but hey...it makes me feel special and it makes me feel that ANet appreciates the money I spent on them.
There's nothing wrong with giving useless digital items to sweeten the deal, especially when you charge premium for expack (reasons are truly irrelevant here)
Here's the actual link from their forums: https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/game/hot/Did-you-really-edit-your-FAQ-s
And then the picture: https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/194254/hot.png
I wouldn't call it a bait and switch though, because i don't believe it was intentional. It's a horrible PR nightmare though.