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As our phones improve, mmorpgs will experience a reawakening

Adjuvant1Adjuvant1 Member RarePosts: 2,100
How soon until technology is such, can we have a "World of Warcraft style experience" on our smartphones?

Which companies seem to be anticipating this?

It seems the majority of population are content with devices which are sufficient for their needs. Is this why mmorpgs are out of favor lately, because people don't "need" machines bigger than an iphone for practical purposes, therefore the majority just don't use pcs which currently are the necessary medium for large-scale games? Was WoW big in 2005-2007 because fewer people had smartphones? If all you need is cellular connection, a video camera, facebook, twitter, and a handful of apps, what will life be like when your device simply can do more?
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  • khanstructkhanstruct Member UncommonPosts: 756
    What people do you know that don't use a computer?  O.o

  • GrumpyHobbitGrumpyHobbit Member RarePosts: 1,220
    lol I can see it now. 4 minute raids and fake Facebook accounts so people can Ninja loot and be dicks in another entire medium.
  • PhaserlightPhaserlight Member EpicPosts: 3,075
    For me, it already happened.... about four years ago.

    Guild Software

    The game I play on my phone (and PC) is one I have always preferred to WoW (been playing since 2003).  I've tried explaining to many here how awesome it is, unfortunately a lot of prejudice exists. I think some people see "mobile" and immediately go 'oh, must be shallow'; unfortunately, most seem to have been all but brainwashed by too many Candy Crush invites to think that all games bearing the tag 'mobile' are necessarily limited to a given set of boundary parameters. Anything existing outside those parameters must be fiction.

    It already exists. It's already here. I've been saying it for years.

    "The simple is the seal of the true and beauty is the splendor of truth" -Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar
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  • Adjuvant1Adjuvant1 Member RarePosts: 2,100
    Aori said:
    So you're saying phones are going to be able to do productivity tasks like a PC too? I hate gaming on a phone, its awkward and uncomfortable. I'll take my larger screen and comfy seating arrangement.

    As edgy as people want to be, nothing will beat sitting at a desk with a mouse and keyboard until we start plugging crap into our brains directly.
    How about a phone which projects a holographic image of a screen equivalent to a 19" monitor, and the "face" of the phone nets a small touch-screen keyboard, with an optional mouse or joystick plug-and-play. Now you have a compact virtual gaming rig.
  • GrumpyHobbitGrumpyHobbit Member RarePosts: 1,220
    Adjuvant1 said:
    Aori said:
    So you're saying phones are going to be able to do productivity tasks like a PC too? I hate gaming on a phone, its awkward and uncomfortable. I'll take my larger screen and comfy seating arrangement.

    As edgy as people want to be, nothing will beat sitting at a desk with a mouse and keyboard until we start plugging crap into our brains directly.
    How about a phone which projects a holographic image of a screen equivalent to a 19" monitor, and the "face" of the phone nets a small touch-screen keyboard, with an optional mouse or joystick plug-and-play. Now you have a compact virtual gaming rig.

    Or we just use our PC's that already have 19" screens, a real keyboard, a real mouse and can actually run games and leave our phones alone so we can make phone calls on them :)
  • nariusseldonnariusseldon Member EpicPosts: 27,775
    already happening ... order and chaos online.
  • Flyte27Flyte27 Member RarePosts: 4,574
    I'm of the idea that there are different devices for everything.  I hardly use my phone.  I much prefer to use a keyboard, mouse, or gamepad.  I also prefer a larger screen.  

    Depending on the graphics and mathematical calculations that are required a computer or console's size is a huge advantage due to having more space to disperse heat.

    One has to assume that eventually there will be a cap on how small things can be and how powerful/power efficient they can be.  I think we are approaching that point.

    Holographic devices I would imagine are very mathematically intensive.  They have to project a 3D space in front of you and determine if you finger is in a certain position.  Perhaps that's why we haven't seen much in the way of this type of device so far.

    Everyone thought we would have flying cars mainstream by now, but cars aren't really all that different from what they were originally except they seem to have more issues and a lot of computers built into them to assist with driving.
  • GrumpyHobbitGrumpyHobbit Member RarePosts: 1,220
    lol that is funny.

    I guess some people are desperate enough to want to play that on a phone but I am happy to leave it to them and keep using my PC for MMORPGS.
  • Dagon13Dagon13 Member UncommonPosts: 566
    In my opinion, the method of receiving user input will be an enormous hurdle that will have to be cleared before mobile gaming or productivity tasks can make their way into mainstream use.  There is a time and place for touchscreen interaction but the limitations are too real to dismiss.  

    I chose to highlight user input because the only current viable solution is to introduce external devices like mice, keyboards, controllers, etc and doing so defeats the reason mobile platforms would even be considered viable in this area.  The mobility and convenience of taking the device out of your pocket is lost.

    It's great for simple input games/tasks like Angry Birds and tweets but that's about it.  I remember buying my first smartphone, excited to get some gaming on the go and being utterly disappointed.  It didn't help that the "best" they could offer at the time were the equivalent to 10 year old browser games.
  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 9,004
    As phones become more powerful they will have better games.  MMO's will start adding more mobile options to compete.  More people will be checking chatting in game, checking the auction house, or crafting while  commuting or taking a break.  The trend is already to use your phone throughout the day and your home pc and cell while at home.  I still know a few people who turn their cells off when not making a call but it's a very small number.

    One thing I don't like is the idea of cell phone radiation being that close to my eyes with the new VR setups.

    "We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa      "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are."  SR Covey

  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 8,914
    I dont even have a cell phone .....   useless pathetic ambilicle cords ..
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,483
    It will happen just as soon as phones have full sized keyboards, mice, and 27" monitors, while still being comfortable to carry around.
  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441
    I hate mobile gaming so I don't see myself going for anything like that. There are however already some lame mobile MMOs so if you like things like that go ahead. I want a large screen and somewhere comfortable to sit with my keyboard and trackball.

    I am not home at the moment and uses my laptop with a 17" screen and am not a happy camper about it, I miss my 27" 2K screen a lot (not to mention the rest of my computer, the laptop is just so-so).
  • nariusseldonnariusseldon Member EpicPosts: 27,775
    Loke666 said:

    I am not home at the moment and uses my laptop with a 17" screen and am not a happy camper about it, I miss my 27" 2K screen a lot (not to mention the rest of my computer, the laptop is just so-so).
    27" is so small. I would much rather play on my 42" TV. 
  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441
    Loke666 said:

    I am not home at the moment and uses my laptop with a 17" screen and am not a happy camper about it, I miss my 27" 2K screen a lot (not to mention the rest of my computer, the laptop is just so-so).
    27" is so small. I would much rather play on my 42" TV. 
    I guess it is a matter of taste and I sit closer than you do. My resolution is probably far superior though (which mean I get more stuff on my smaller screen). Of course certain games are better on larger screens and others works best on somewhat smaller still it is my experience that I get a cleaner better picture on a good monitor. It is good with a large TV when watch movies from the net though.

    It really doesn't matter in this thread, anything lower than 20" is unplayable in my book besides possible for CIV and AoW and even there I prefer larger.
  • KiyorisKiyoris Member RarePosts: 2,130
    edited December 2015
    There are 2 reasons why smartphones won't increase in power any time soon.

    -battery life, the last decade, lithium capacity has only gone up by 3%, they're not technological limitation, they're chemical limitations

    want to use more powerful hardware, you're going to need more power, it's not there

    for a while people accepted battery life from 7 days on flip phones, going down to 1 day with the iPhone, but very few will accept battery life less than 1 day

    -heating, Qualcomm 810 was complete failure because of overheating, already rumors that the 820 is overheating too, qualcomm denies it, .. smartphones have no way to use fans



    Fujitsi is trying to incorporate heatpipes in phones, but without a fan, it will not help a lot






    both these things are not really issues on PC, you can use fans on PC, and power is pretty much unlimited
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  • nariusseldonnariusseldon Member EpicPosts: 27,775
    Loke666 said:


    It really doesn't matter in this thread, anything lower than 20" is unplayable in my book besides possible for CIV and AoW and even there I prefer larger.
    Depends on the game though. Some kind of turn based combat can work.

    I think the controls are much worse (touch screen) than the screen size. 
  • goboygogoboygo Member RarePosts: 2,141

    Smearing my fingers all over that 6 inch screen, what an awesome gaming experience that will be!

  • Righteous_RockRighteous_Rock Member RarePosts: 1,234
    The need for high end PC hardware has diminished thanks to tablets and smartphone game development. You can buy a low end gaming laptop and feel comfortable that you will be able to play all the games that come out in the next 5 years or longer at high to ultra settings since the games will not be created with the intention of pushing graphic and processing capabilities.
  • nariusseldonnariusseldon Member EpicPosts: 27,775
    goboygo said:

    Smearing my fingers all over that 6 inch screen, what an awesome gaming experience that will be!

    yes, it is pretty awesome .. depending on the game. For example, i find a game like The Room (1, 2 & 3) are much better played with a touch screen than a mouse/keyboard or gamepad.
  • CatibrieCatibrie Member UncommonPosts: 87
    I hate gaming on my phone unless its something simple like Candy Crush or Clash of Clans.
  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441
    The need for high end PC hardware has diminished thanks to tablets and smartphone game development. You can buy a low end gaming laptop and feel comfortable that you will be able to play all the games that come out in the next 5 years or longer at high to ultra settings since the games will not be created with the intention of pushing graphic and processing capabilities.
    Hardly, games like SW battlefront look amazing (too bad the gameplay just is so-so). If VR actually kicks off that will also means a lot of new use of good graphics.

    Personally I think the bloody idea that games should be made for both consoles and PC hurt the graphics more than any tablet, many games looks far worse on PCs so they are less work to port.

    Games like FPS games will try to push the graphics until they get movie like quality, games like MMOs will be 5 years after like they always been. If you look on the mobile top list of games and the PC games you see that they generally are very different from eachother. Mobile games fill a different niche, they are generally short games you can play on the buss or on a 15 mins break from work. PC games usually take far longer time to play and are usually far more advance.

    Mobile games do hurt certain types of PC games, I can imagine that any casual game people played for 10 minutes will be played on tablets and phones nowadays but putting game like Witcher 3 against candy crush is like comparing apples and potatoes.
  • KiyorisKiyoris Member RarePosts: 2,130
    edited December 2015
    best Smartphone games have graphics of 2001 PC games

    this is far cry 2004 on PC, smartphones are nowhere near that, not even close

    smartphone graphics are about 15 years behind PC


  • apb2011apb2011 Member UncommonPosts: 168
    When we all ditch MMOs and games in general, and go out and get laid, we will experience an awakening.
  • KiyorisKiyoris Member RarePosts: 2,130
    apb2011 said:
    When we all ditch MMOs and games in general, and go out and get laid, we will experience an awakening.
    or herpes
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