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I am sorry if the new ad-block notice is angering/annoying some of you but this is something we really need to try out. Our ad block rate has gone from 25% just 2 years ago to now over 50%. We simply cannot keep the lights on if this trend continues and I know many other websites are feeling this same pain.
Our only income source is ad revenue so this is a big impact to us. To the user saying 2,000 members paying $3 would pay for the entire site that would barely cover our hosting fees let alone pay for our staff.
Some notes on this:
- It should only appear once per session. If it appears more than once it likely means you don't have 3rd party cookies enabled.
- The notice window can be closed with an X in the upper right corner in 10 seconds and you should not see it again after that unless you shut down your browser and start a new session. I have requested the company providing this show the countdown in seconds to make it more clear.
- The company providing this service DOES have an option for a "paywall" where you pay like $2.99 per month and you get access to any site using their service in their network. I told them I initially did not want this as I feared it would cause more outrage but if the consensus is that this is a better 3rd option then we can add that in. The only catch is that it would not be integrated with our site - you would just be able to run ABP without the notice and you would still see our background skin ad for example.
Note that this is a test. If we see a huge drop in traffic without our block rate going down significantly than we will likely take it down. If we see a 5% drop in traffic but a 15% reduction in ABP users then it would be a big improvement for us.- MMORPG.COM Staff -
The dead know only one thing: it is better to be alive.
- MMORPG.COM Staff -
The dead know only one thing: it is better to be alive.
I might ask the company providing this if we can set a perma cookie instead and only show the notice once per day, etc
- MMORPG.COM Staff -
The dead know only one thing: it is better to be alive.
It annoys me when sites where I block the ads because they're malicious give messages complaining about ad blocking. I want to tell such sites that if they weren't completely careless about what ads they'd allow, I wouldn't block them.
Ads shouldn't overwhelm the content. Having ads that forward automatically forward you away from the site you were on is not OK. Having ads that constantly pop up and obstruct content is not okay. Having auto-play videos with audio on pages whose content is text is not OK. Delivering malware via your ads is especially not OK. If it weren't for so many sites doing that, ad blockers wouldn't have become so prevalent.
Fortunately, a lot of sites do try to be careful about what ads they'll allow, including this one. So I whitelist a lot of the sites that I visit commonly, including this one. Whitelisting sites that are responsible with their ads encourages them to be careful about which ads they'll allow. If web sites could expect more revenue from having moderate amounts of ads than by not trying to filter out even the worst sorts of ads, that would be a good thing.
I usually try to whitelist a site I visit much and see if the ads overwhelm the content or otherwise cause trouble (e.g., making the anti-virus flare up). When sites do have such malicious ads, my choices are basically to block the ads or not visit the site, and the site has nothing to gain from the latter.
If you have an ad blocker on and visit Bloomberg, you get a message saying that the site might not display properly with an ad blocker on. If you click past it, it shows you a horribly broken version of the web page. Then if you reload it, even with the ad blocker still on, the page works fine. I think they're trying to trick people into disabling the ad blocker, reloading, and thinking that fixed the problem.
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Try a MUD today at http://www.mudconnect.com/I hate to say it cause I do support you guys but i do not support any type of pop ups.
I always try to disable adblock on sites I frequent, but the last time I turned them off here I noticed slower load times on page refresh and hitching when I tried to scroll.
- MMORPG.COM Staff -
The dead know only one thing: it is better to be alive.
/confused
"This may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to. Relax....."
I don't have a problem if MMORPG starts blocking those people that do though.
You can't have your cake and eat it. Either you get free website access with ads, or you pay a fee to replace the revenue lost due to you blocking ads. Business is business.
The more widespread adblockers become, the more websites will be applying this rule.
1. so you want us to safe information from someone we do not want to interact with? I visit this site and I dont want some code that uses a potential zero day. Hell, I disable any block if you are responsible for any damage done by your site. A malware that encrypts all my drives which means I loose income for the next 2-3 months, you pay for it. If you accept this then sure I will disable my script blocker.
2. You hire a company to do that? Are you sure none of the adds delivered by 3rd parties overlap this X? And if it is ok until I restart the browser then why is there a need for a timer? So you say that you go with a timer and not until a browser restart? But how do you know the time if I delete cookies ? Do you save my browsing history? Do you log my system mac? How do you get my system mac? How do you make sure someone doesnt fake my net adapter mac? One or the other way you lie and or talk bs in my opinion.
3. Oh so you work with a company with which you can't even determine the price for your theoretical paywall? Do they work for you or do you work for them? I mean after the numerous failed attempts to update the side this in my opinion points to a complete and utter lack of common knowledge of business practice on the admin and management level. With something like "we work with a company that doesnt allow us to determine our sub fees" how could we trust you on a technical level and at the same time I assume, which is a personal opinion, how can we trust anything you write as "news" when you arent able charge $5 instead of your hired boss' $2.99?
And just to point out. This post is the first time I hear about anything ad block related because while I block flash and adds I haven't seen this kind of pop up.
Oh and 4.
You want us to disable our protection? Maybe start not using half a dozen trackers on your page. I don't want facebook, double click or Sizmek to get my whatever you send them information.
As a solution. Host any ad on your site only, no 3rd party links. Dont use flash, videos or bling bling adds. Remove each and every tracker. Then you get 90% people without any kind of ad blocks.
You want a 100% rate of no ad blocks? post a screen shot each week/day taken with a no add-on browser.
So what happens,WE the users still whitelist this site,we show TRUST,yet this site does not treat users equally back.THIS site does NOT just exploit users during their stay but before and after and everyone should realize that is NOT right.
Problem is the term "ADBLOCKER" makes it sound like users are blocking ads,that is 100% FALSE,it is merely blocking "cookies/trackers/beacons" which are deceptive forms of spying.
Users will still see the ads,they will still click the click baits and take part in the content which is like 90% advertising content anyhow.
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And how long until ad blockers figure out how to selectively not block whatever it is that sites use to detect whether you've got an ad blocker on?
I wonder if there is a way to charge developers to pay in having their games added in the forums. There is a couple of forums on here that advertise almost daily in the forums which does seem to be free for them.
Then asking us to whitelist this site in the possibility of getting infected from the ads is asking way too much!
But I will try to whitelist the site for a time and see what happens.
Rob Manuel