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So Who is Getting Morrowind?

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edited May 2017 in Elder Scrolls Online
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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    1. Do you like PVP BGs?
    2. Do you like leveling all different classes in the MMOs you play?
    3. Do you like questing in a new zone where you haven't quested before?

    If your answer is yes to any of those 3, then you'll probably enjoy it. But if you're expecting something beyond that you might not.

    PS. I'm getting it mostly for reason #2.
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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719

    Torval said:

    ... I always roll AD and play through Auridon first. 


    IMO, that will still be the best way to enjoy this. It's the same way I still recommend people play any of the current DLC zones. Those vanilla first alliance zones are the only ones designed to ease you through the first 20 or so levels. The challenges, particularly with the number of linked mobs you need to fight at once, ramp up gradually there if you follow the breadcrumbs.

    Going to Wrothgar or Craglorn or the Gold Coast right out of the tutorial can be rough especially for people new to the game.
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  • Jamar870Jamar870 Member UncommonPosts: 573
    I have vanilla ESO. So as part of another deal I pre-ordered Morrowwind. Can I install and play this "expansion"?

  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719

    Torval said:



    Iselin said:





    Torval said:



    ... I always roll AD and play through Auridon first. 






    IMO, that will still be the best way to enjoy this. It's the same way I still recommend people play any of the current DLC zones. Those vanilla first alliance zones are the only ones designed to ease you through the first 20 or so levels. The challenges, particularly with the number of linked mobs you need to fight at once, ramp up gradually there if you follow the breadcrumbs.

    Going to Wrothgar or Craglorn or the Gold Coast right out of the tutorial can be rough especially for people new to the game.


    Since it's familiar it helps give me a reference point when I start a new character. It's not that big of a deal for me though because I play so casually. The most challenging content I play are Dolmens, zone bosses (skull and crossbones), and shared public dungeons. It's not the hardcore top end stuff so there is a lot of room for me to play how I want rather than focus on minmax efficiency (which can be a lot of fun too).


    I do both although I seldom raid. They're just too choreographed for my taste - even the best of them. For high end group content I much prefer 4-man veteran dungeons or the unpredictability of Cyrodiil.

    But I do enjoy leveling and making do with a less than a full toolkit. My solo leveling challenges are soloing dolmens and public dungeons including all the bosses in them (on the PTS you pretty well need to solo those since the population is not that high.) That's what I use to measure the effectiveness of classes and builds based on previous experience soloing that type content. If I'm feeling extra motivated I'll solo a world boss :)

    So yeah, on the PTS I've gone through Auridon and parts of Grahtwood several times these past few weeks.


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  • YashaXYashaX Member EpicPosts: 3,100
    I am getting Morrowind mainly because of the new class and to try out the battlegrounds. I think the new area could be a lot of fun as well because Zenimax's level design seems to be improving: when I subbed for a bit recently I played through some of the DLC areas and they were really well done. 
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  • YashaXYashaX Member EpicPosts: 3,100

    Jamar870 said:

    I have vanilla ESO. So as part of another deal I pre-ordered Morrowwind. Can I install and play this "expansion"?



    When Morrowind is released in June you'll be able to play it if you already have the base game (vanillla ESO). Not sure if there will be an issue if you have bought one on steam and one from another vendor.
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  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332

    Iselin said:

    1. Do you like PVP BGs?
    2. Do you like leveling all different classes in the MMOs you play?
    3. Do you like questing in a new zone where you haven't quested before?

    If your answer is yes to any of those 3, then you'll probably enjoy it. But if you're expecting something beyond that you might not.

    PS. I'm getting it mostly for reason #2.


    1 pvp in a rpg.not a chance
    2 Yes i like this a lot
    3 IDK what this statement even means,every game i have ever played has quests in different zones.I like deep questing with several systems/currencies and types of rewards.Most every game cannot offer this to the point the questing is exactly what i don't like about questing.

    Score sheet...1/3.X-factor,although i think bethesda/Zeni games are ok they have never been designed in a way to really intrigue me,so i have  worn out my interest in their games.
    So...No i won't be playing.

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  • TheDarkrayneTheDarkrayne Member EpicPosts: 5,297
    I'll be getting it. There isn't one upcoming MMO that I'm interested in so this is where the sheets go.
    I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.
  • YashaXYashaX Member EpicPosts: 3,100

    Wizardry said:



    Iselin said:


    1. Do you like PVP BGs?
    2. Do you like leveling all different classes in the MMOs you play?
    3. Do you like questing in a new zone where you haven't quested before?

    If your answer is yes to any of those 3, then you'll probably enjoy it. But if you're expecting something beyond that you might not.

    PS. I'm getting it mostly for reason #2.




    1 pvp in a rpg.not a chance
    2 Yes i like this a lot
    3 IDK what this statement even means,every game i have ever played has quests in different zones.I like deep questing with several systems/currencies and types of rewards.Most every game cannot offer this to the point the questing is exactly what i don't like about questing.

    Score sheet...1/3.X-factor,although i think bethesda/Zeni games are ok they have never been designed in a way to really intrigue me,so i have  worn out my interest in their games.
    So...No i won't be playing.


    On point three I think he means that the expansion will have new zones to quest in so his advice is to buy it if you like the gameplay of the base game and want to explore some new areas. 
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  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    Still undecided. Mostly because my wife isn't all that interested at present, and I uninstalled ESO to DL other games. . Kinda sick of the MMO churn at present as well. Hence right now I'm playing SP games and Lanning with the wife. Not sure if I'll be back in any MMO for the remainder of the year, except giving TSW a shot when it relaunches since it's something I only did the open beta of. 

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  • lahnmirlahnmir Member LegendaryPosts: 5,050
    I'm back in FF14 because of its expansion releasing next month. Started all over with a new character and am wondering why I left in the first place. So no, I won't be getting this.

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  • YashaXYashaX Member EpicPosts: 3,100

    Distopia said:

    Hence right now I'm playing SP games and Lanning with the wife. 


    Sounds like fun! For some reason I also have less motivation/time to get into mmos at the moment, but the nice thing about ESO is that I can approach it like a single player rpg if I want to; as long as the new class and quest line/zones are interesting it should be fun.
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  • d_20d_20 Member RarePosts: 1,878
    Already ordered it. TES 3 is my favorite game of all time.


  • d_20d_20 Member RarePosts: 1,878

    YashaX said:



    Distopia said:


    Hence right now I'm playing SP games and Lanning with the wife. 




    Sounds like fun! For some reason I also have less motivation/time to get into mmos at the moment, but the nice thing about ESO is that I can approach it like a single player rpg if I want to; as long as the new class and quest line/zones are interesting it should be fun.


    That's how I play it now. I don't much care for the pvp in it now, but that was the original reason I was into it, looking from some 3-way action  ;)

    Now I get my pvp from other games (PUBG and Escape from Tarkov) and catching up on great games I bought on sale from Steam and never got around to (Wolfenstein New Order, Dishonored, etc.).


  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus Member EpicPosts: 3,338
    I played it on PC originally. Since I am going to start a new class I'll play on my PS4 this time. Would enjoy the company ofc! :)
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  • Mackaveli44Mackaveli44 Member RarePosts: 717
    I am on the fence between buying Morrowind and Stormblood(FFXIV) expansion.  Stormblood to me seems more like a new expansion while Morrowind sounds just like a DLC.  I mean 1 zone to me isn't all that appealing, they havent spoken about any 4 man group content at all.  They've mainly advertised the Warden, the new trial and the battleground.  Meanwhile, Stormblood has multiple new zones, underwater content, 2 new classes,  new raids, new dungeons, etc, etc, etc. 

    I do love ESO though... It's a beautifully made game but I am just worried that they're charging an expansion price for something thats the size of a DLC, rather than an expansion
  • OhhPaigeyOhhPaigey Member RarePosts: 1,517
    If they fix some of the bugs, including the "removing from area" dungeon crap the game does as soon as you find a dungeon.

    I've always loved Druid, and Warden looks pretty similar. I think I'll wait and see reviews first.
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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719

    Mackaveli44 said:

    I am on the fence between buying Morrowind and Stormblood(FFXIV) expansion.  Stormblood to me seems more like a new expansion while Morrowind sounds just like a DLC.  I mean 1 zone to me isn't all that appealing, they havent spoken about any 4 man group content at all.  They've mainly advertised the Warden, the new trial and the battleground.  Meanwhile, Stormblood has multiple new zones, underwater content, 2 new classes,  new raids, new dungeons, etc, etc, etc. 

    I do love ESO though... It's a beautifully made game but I am just worried that they're charging an expansion price for something thats the size of a DLC, rather than an expansion


    You really need to separate HOW they're charging from WHAT they're charging.

    If you're someone who never subs to the game and just buys DLC with crowns then you're already used to paying something for new DLC content. That price has varied with some DLC costing more crowns than others. The range has been 1500 crowns for the two 4-man dungeon DLC (Shadows of the Hist) to 3000 for Orsinium.

    The $ cost of those crowns varies depending on how you bought them: the more you buy at once the cheaper and there have been sales, but whatever... let's say that Shadows of the Hist cost $15 and Orsinium cost $25. The Morrowind upgrade is $39 and it has an Orsinium-sized zone, a new class they chose to wall-off behind this DLC + Battlegrounds. I don't have any problem with the $39 compared to what you get from other DLC and what they cost. I'm OK with the "what."

    The "how" is a different story because together with this DLC release they changed their business model by carving out one "super DLC" per year, calling it a chapter and making it neither purchasable with crowns nor part of subbing as is the case with all other DLC. We can dislike this part of it, the "how", but it's a separate issue from the "what." Personally, I intensely dislike the "how" but I'm perfectly fine with the "what."

    A separate issue has been the hype surrounding this particular DLC that has created unrealistic expectations about what the Morrowind Chapter does for the game. My 3 points above in my response to Turtle tell you everything you need to know about what you get with this DLC. Notice that I used "zone" in the singular.
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  • Mackaveli44Mackaveli44 Member RarePosts: 717
    edited May 2017




    Iselin said:














    I am on the fence between buying Morrowind and Stormblood(FFXIV) expansion.  Stormblood to me seems more like a new expansion while Morrowind sounds just like a DLC.  I mean 1 zone to me isn't all that appealing, they havent spoken about any 4 man group content at all.  They've mainly advertised the Warden, the new trial and the battleground.  Meanwhile, Stormblood has multiple new zones, underwater content, 2 new classes,  new raids, new dungeons, etc, etc, etc. 

    I do love ESO though... It's a beautifully made game but I am just worried that they're charging an expansion price for something thats the size of a DLC, rather than an expansion










    You really need to separate HOW they're charging from WHAT they're charging.

    If you're someone who never subs to the game and just buys DLC with crowns then you're already used to paying something for new DLC content. That price has varied with some DLC costing more crowns than others. The range has been 1500 crowns for the two 4-man dungeon DLC (Shadows of the Hist) to 3000 for Orsinium.

    The $ cost of those crowns varies depending on how you bought them: the more you buy at once the cheaper and there have been sales, but whatever... let's say that Shadows of the Hist cost $15 and Orsinium cost $25. The Morrowind upgrade is $39 and it has an Orsinium-sized zone, a new class they chose to wall-off behind this DLC + Battlegrounds. I don't have any problem with the $39 compared to what you get from other DLC and what they cost. I'm OK with the "what."

    The "how" is a different story because together with this DLC release they changed their business model by carving out one "super DLC" per year, calling it a chapter and making it neither purchasable with crowns nor part of subbing as is the case with all other DLC. We can dislike this part of it, the "how", but it's a separate issue from the "what." Personally, I intensely dislike the "how" but I'm perfectly fine with the "what."

    A separate issue has been the hype surrounding this particular DLC that has created unrealistic expectations about what the Morrowind Chapter does for the game. My 3 points above in my response to Turtle tell you everything you need to know about what you get with this DLC. Notice that I used "zone" in the singular.






    Let me first say, that I LOVE ESO, I really do.  I enjoy most things about it.  

    Yes, singular because it is only 1 zone(As I am sure you're well aware of). While its a large zone, I don't think a full expansion price is justified.   While I understand your points, to me personally, a new zone, new class(which the classes aren't as complex in ESO as other mmo's) a battleground, and 1 trial, don't justify a full expansion price tag. To me, this is reminiscent of what Sony/Daybreak did with EQ2's "expansions".   Smaller "expansions" for the same price as a regular sized expansion. To me, it's robbery for what we're getting, regardless of their business model with their DLC's.  There isn't much "oomph" behind what we're getting. 

    Now, Stormblood on the other hand, FEELS like a true expansion.  Multiple zones(granted its only 4 zones), 2 new classes, multiple new dungeons, multiple new raids, etc, etc. THAT to me, feels like an expansion and Is worth the price tag.  Zeni has yet to comment on any GROUP content in Morrowind.  What kind of expansion doesn't release content for groups?  I don't count the Trial as group content, its RAID content as in multiple groups together.  I am talking 4 man dungeons, 4 man bosses, etc, etc.   Its like they cut out the middle man.  Solo content and a trial in Morrowind. 
  • ElsaboltsElsabolts Member RarePosts: 3,476
    Had it's chance, No thanks
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  • MargraveMargrave Member RarePosts: 1,370
    Very excited about it. Can't wait! This should be awesome!
  • NaryathNaryath Member UncommonPosts: 26
    Can't decide, ESO: Morrowind update or FFXIV: Stormblood expansion :(
  • azarhalazarhal Member RarePosts: 1,402
    I bought it, I will probably regret it. It's 100% a nostalgia purchase.
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,780
    I'm buying it because "Morrowind".

    It will be fun to revisit it though I'm sure there is a lot changed from the original game. The quests in Elder Scrolls Online are fun enough (compared to most other mmo's).

    No interest in the new class and I don't like combat in this game so not going to do the battlegrounds.


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  • IkedaIkeda Member RarePosts: 2,751
    I have it preordered for the statue.  Not sure.  I'm not actively playing as the game bores me and makes me repeatedly reinstall Skyrim or Oblivion or Morrowind.  May cancel it.
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