If they wanna do something exciting , Let Creeps leave the Moors , let us outside of Bree ,Let us in the Lonelands , the Trollshaws , the Misty Mts ...etc..
Would be the best and most active server they have imo
I would be for them having contested lands that made sense in the story. So no creeps in Hobbiton or the Elf lands, etc.
I think this Legendary server is really just a way to get players "together" and starting fresh as well as make a bit of money for the company.
I'm ok with that and will be there!
Thats why i listed contested areas ..
Well, you put "etc" so I just wanted to clarify ...
Will play for OG Lore Master, best class ever. Don’t care much about the rest, current LotRO feels like “them good old days” already to me, lots of nostalgia.
/Cheers, Lahnmir
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'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
I'd like to jump in because A) I need something to take the place of WoW, and B ) I never gave it a proper go at release, so a second chance to get a populated server and level with the large wave is enticing.
I'd like to jump in because A) I need something to take the place of WoW, and B ) I never gave it a proper go at release, so a second chance to get a populated server and level with the large wave is enticing.
If its something you missed out on before , its a great journey .. lotsa fun
It would be cool to see level 1 through 50 or especially 120 through the eyes of my Blackarrow Gutlard, though.
Too bad Tolkien never wrote lore from their perspective, so we could see it here, and not have the lore police bust a valve over it.
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Lore freaks had an outrage at moving beyond Mordor. The nerd rage lol.
Well that depends.
There's a difference between people calling out every single bit of minutiae and people wanting to actually play "The Lord of the Rings" without having to contend with the ridiculous additions developers can come up with.
I'm probably more purist but can easily contend with the addition of High Elves or Loremasters. Not so much Rune Keepers.
The thing is, after Mordor, since there might not be a lot written that defines the rest of the world and for years to come, I'm ok with them making up content inspired by the rest of the world/lore.
In truth, I would have been happy with a much more lower magic game where players couldn't be lore masters and rune keepers or even other races other than men but I get why players would want to play hobbits or dwarves (or my favorite) elves.
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I'd like to jump in because A) I need something to take the place of WoW, and B ) I never gave it a proper go at release, so a second chance to get a populated server and level with the large wave is enticing.
If its something you missed out on before , its a great journey .. lotsa fun
I can't even remember why I stopped playing TBH. Was probably just too absorbed in FFXI (Peak FFXI was around the time this came out iirc).
Keep in mind you may need to buy all $150 worth of content in order to really experience this server though, on top of the sub.
If they don't have a big sale before it starts that will be my line in the sand.
Keep in mind you may need to buy all $150 worth of content in order to really experience this server though, on top of the sub.
If they don't have a big sale before it starts that will be my line in the sand.
There used to be slaes at black Friday and at the end of the year, but even without sales that $150 is a bit of an overstatement... not to mention you don't need (by the letter) the expansions, with the sub you have more than enough content to level all the way up to the cap, and still can play the expansion stories on the go.
I would play a completely vanilla new
server too. That was fun then and I could have fun with it now. I'm not
going to avoid the new server simply because it's not a total throwback.
I won't avoid it either, as I wrote above the whole "new server, everyone starts fresh" feel is enough for me, and it will be fun. I'm just saying it is a missed opportunity for the nostalgic bent (from the thread title), since there's nothing nostalgic in the move. And I think it is a more general feel, not just me, as I asked around I barely heard of anyone planning to sub for the new server. LTAs and players with an ongoing sub say sure, I will play there, but players currently not on a sub are more hesitant, simply because it is "just" (in brackets) a new server, but with the very same and current game, nothing nostalgic or legendary in there.
Keep in mind you may need to buy all $150 worth of content in order to really experience this server though, on top of the sub.
If they don't have a big sale before it starts that will be my line in the sand.
There used to be slaes at black Friday and at the end of the year, but even without sales that $150 is a bit of an overstatement... not to mention you don't need (by the letter) the expansions, with the sub you have more than enough content to level all the way up to the cap, and still can play the expansion stories on the go.
I would play a completely vanilla new
server too. That was fun then and I could have fun with it now. I'm not
going to avoid the new server simply because it's not a total throwback.
I won't avoid it either, as I wrote above the whole "new server, everyone starts fresh" feel is enough for me, and it will be fun. I'm just saying it is a missed opportunity for the nostalgic bent (from the thread title), since there's nothing nostalgic in the move. And I think it is a more general feel, not just me, as I asked around I barely heard of anyone planning to sub for the new server. LTAs and players with an ongoing sub say sure, I will play there, but players currently not on a sub are more hesitant, simply because it is "just" (in brackets) a new server, but with the very same and current game, nothing nostalgic or legendary in there.
I think it's a missed opportunity for a couple of risky ventures - like a full sub only no cash shop loot crate experience, or a pvmp server like Scorch said above.
Opening a new server is one of the coolest things to do in an MMO in my opinion. It's worth it for that alone just because the community development is so memorable.
I think the expansion content is included with the subscription on this server. I'd have to check the faq or the twitch video Q&A, but I think that's the case. So there is no massive paywall to join. It's just a subscription. This game has a pretty generous sliding scale for subs too. 3 months is $30 - that's 10/mo which includes 1500 game cash (about $18). And that's only for people like me who aren't lifers. Lifetime VIP can play this at no additional charge.
I do wish the cash shop were gone, or at least heavily pared back. That's really my biggest beef.
I don't think the expansion content is included with the sub. You'll still have to buy the expansions to access that content when it's released.
The FAQ states that if we've previously bought an expansion or quest pack we won't have to repurchase it for the legendary server(s). They simply restated what it says in the FAQ during the QA stream.
I'm assuming that all of the quest packs and instance clusters are still included with the subscription, just like the normal servers. But, they haven't said anything (at least that I could find) about expansions being included.
Yep, not interested if I'm going to have to gimp my experience.
Did anyone catch an official launch date? This Fall doesn't exactly leave a lot of guessing room as Fall is almost over, so I'm confused why they didn't just give an actual date.
I was reading Tolkein's wikipedia and i found out he taught at Leeds and I knew my dad studied English there I wondered if my dad could have been in one of his classes. That would have been so cool. Alas, Tolkein, taught at Leeds in the 1920's to 1930's.
If I wasn't hopelessly addicted to Path of Exile, like I'm hopelessly addicted to Red Bull, I'd be playing LOTRO. I got a lvl 16 knight/guardian/tank thingy.
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You haven't purchased it in the first place and you expect it for free? This isn't a new free ride server. If you're a new player then you have to pay like everyone else. I'm happy with that gate in place.
I'd recommend waiting. Like Po_gg said they sell bundles periodically and Moria is a good 4 months away. Cordovan or Vastin said on the Q&A that currently content updates are anticipated to drop approximately every 4 months. They stressed "currently" and "approximately". The point is no one needs an expansion right now and we can expect holiday sales shortly.
Why would I want to buy what the current playerbase has had years to accumulate just to experience this temporary server?
If they were releasing content at the same pace as they originally did then sure. The reality is they are releasing it at break-neck speed by comparison.
Did anyone catch an official launch date? This Fall doesn't exactly leave a lot of guessing room as Fall is almost over, so I'm confused why they didn't just give an actual date.
Did anyone catch an official launch date? This Fall doesn't exactly leave a lot of guessing room as Fall is almost over, so I'm confused why they didn't just give an actual date.
November 6, from their twitter -
Thanks, I was also looking for this info. Not a lot of time. I'll give it a go.
while this is all well and good it would be much better if they lost the rights and someone willing to modernize it on a better engine got it and did something with it.
Was plain Turbine wasnt the company to have the IP when they released Moria, and sadly Moria was far and away the best expansion they have put out.
Also not having 'creeps' open world was the first indication. An MMO with no opposition, and they claimed it was 'lore' then went on to make runecrafters and other nonsense that wasnt even close to lore related.
I know some people will think its cool but only because they arent thinking of what the IP should and could be if it was being made by someone with money and 'vision'.
Maybe Chris Roberts can tackle i t once he gets all he can from SC....
I tried playing this again last week and couldn't even stay connected long enough to get on a server. Tried multiple servers and every time I'd just get disconnected before i could log in a character.
I think it's a missed opportunity for a couple of risky ventures - like a full sub only no cash shop loot crate experience, or a pvmp server like Scorch said above.
Opening a new server is one of the coolest things to do in an MMO in my opinion. It's worth it for that alone just because the community development is so memorable.
Agree on both, a true nostalgic server (if possible at all, I think they don't have the code anymore) would be risky, it might lure back old players, but on the other hand a good portion of current players wouldn't like it. (similar to EQ's progression servers, or the Runescape vs. Oldschool Runescape) For PvMP there were plans for more zones at around the time of Osgiliath, but I think the numbers showed (remember the infamous Sapience post? ) that the number of pvp players is pretty small. So a PvMP server would be even more risky than a nostalgic server.
And agree that new server launches are always good (that's why I will play it). At the f2p launch, when they started a new server for the added load, Withywindle turned into my main server for several months, it was fun to play with the flow.
Yep, not interested if I'm going to have to gimp my experience.
I don't follow this, to be honest... sure, as @Stizzled says the expansions are not included (though if you have them already, you will access them later) but the server will have only the base area for a while, so where's the "gimping"? And by the time they will advance the server ahead, you probably will be able to buy the Quad Pack on a sale...
while this is all well and good it would be much better if they lost the rights and someone willing to modernize it on a better engine got it and did something with it.
Was plain Turbine wasnt the company to have the IP when they released Moria, and sadly Moria was far and away the best expansion they have put out.
Also not having 'creeps' open world was the first indication. An MMO with no opposition, and they claimed it was 'lore' then went on to make runecrafters and other nonsense that wasnt even close to lore related.
I know some people will think its cool but only because they arent thinking of what the IP should and could be if it was being made by someone with money and 'vision'.
Maybe Chris Roberts can tackle i t once he gets all he can from SC....
What you are contemplating doesn't work as an MMO. Your vision is better suited to a single player game like Skyrim or Witcher 3. Trying to stick to "lore" in an online MMO based of a very detailed story is in itself a nearly impossible task, while at the same time trying to appeal to a sizable audience.
While I personally wouldn't mind playing in a more lore attentive version myself, the idea behind Runekeepers and other random nonsense was simply marketing trying to make what most would consider boring gameplay.
Also, following lore to a T isn't exactly necessary to enjoy the environment. I think Turbine did a decent job for what it was worth. Just keep in mind, the whole purpose of fantasy lore isn't to create an undeniable world where the only thing that exists is what the author portrays, but a base from which to allow your imagination to draw upon. With that being said, I think the Runekeeper very well could of been an acceptable adaptation in the Tolkien lore.
The lore is just the by product. And this 'only works in single player' crap is just that...crap.
The IP has more than enough content to do anything they want to with it. Even with the stuff they dont own the rights to.
Turbine got lucky and they made a decent game, and the fans and the fact nothing decent has come out for years has let them keep it going for a decade. After several buy outs Warner Brothers money, a new trilogy restoking the hype for the IP and being 'FTP" for 7 or 8 of the years its existed.
I own 2 lifetime accounts. best money I have spent, but even I havent played it with any seriousness for a couple years. I used to log on for all the new books and story advancements but I havent done that in awhile. Last one I played was Gondor I think. Cant remember when I even am in the story. With each passing 'failure' (IMO) I lost more and more interest. The last 'cool' think they did and even that was only cool by comparison/ Was letting you 'build' up the city in Rohan. Many saw that as too much of a grind so I am sure they have changed that since.
I could I suppose now that winter is here go back and burn through what I havent played yet, might take me a couple months if I take my time and grind deeds and achievements. Or I could try this new thing out. But more than likely not.
And I am not one to not play 'old' games. I have put more than a few hours into games a lot older than Lotro it just isnt drawing me to it like it used to.
Of course I will check out these 'legendary' servers. But if they had really wanted to entice guys like me back they would have made ones specifically for lifetime account holders, or even beta players. And then ones for "VIPs" (subscribers. That would have also allowed them to see the demographics of their game better. But I am sure they already know that and didnt make them as exclusive as I would have liked to see because they didnt want the general playerbase to be able to napkin math the numbers for themselves.
while this is all well and good it would be much better if they lost the rights and someone willing to modernize it on a better engine got it and did something with it.
Was plain Turbine wasnt the company to have the IP when they released Moria, and sadly Moria was far and away the best expansion they have put out.
Also not having 'creeps' open world was the first indication. An MMO with no opposition, and they claimed it was 'lore' then went on to make runecrafters and other nonsense that wasnt even close to lore related.
I know some people will think its cool but only because they arent thinking of what the IP should and could be if it was being made by someone with money and 'vision'.
Maybe Chris Roberts can tackle i t once he gets all he can from SC....
Just out of curiosity do you post on anything you enjoy or just go around being negative and bitter?
It's much better spending time on things you enjoy, you should try it out sometime.
I have a lifetime account thing so I probably go back and play for this. I have not played lately. I think my characters are at level 100 and the current max level is 120 or so. I don't like the Epic battle things and always kept up with the books until they forced you to do them to finish the books. I did run a couple of my guys through them for the books but still hated them.
After hearing the video I'm not as excited as I was originally. If it brings peeps back and breathes extra life back into LOTRO then I'm all for it, but would rather the devs spent their time/effort on refining old and introducing new gameplay.
If word got out that the mechanics are spot on, lag issues were a thing of the past, and classes have never been as balanced as now, wouldn't that bring a lot of people to the game too?
Did anyone catch an official launch date? This Fall doesn't exactly leave a lot of guessing room as Fall is almost over, so I'm confused why they didn't just give an actual date.
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/Cheers,
Lahnmir
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
Too bad Tolkien never wrote lore from their perspective, so we could see it here, and not have the lore police bust a valve over it.
Gut Out!
What, me worry?
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Keep in mind you may need to buy all $150 worth of content in order to really experience this server though, on top of the sub.
If they don't have a big sale before it starts that will be my line in the sand.
I won't avoid it either, as I wrote above the whole "new server, everyone starts fresh" feel is enough for me, and it will be fun.
I'm just saying it is a missed opportunity for the nostalgic bent (from the thread title), since there's nothing nostalgic in the move. And I think it is a more general feel, not just me, as I asked around I barely heard of anyone planning to sub for the new server.
LTAs and players with an ongoing sub say sure, I will play there, but players currently not on a sub are more hesitant, simply because it is "just" (in brackets) a new server, but with the very same and current game, nothing nostalgic or legendary in there.
I was reading Tolkein's wikipedia and i found out he taught at Leeds and I knew my dad studied English there I wondered if my dad could have been in one of his classes. That would have been so cool. Alas, Tolkein, taught at Leeds in the 1920's to 1930's.
If I wasn't hopelessly addicted to Path of Exile, like I'm hopelessly addicted to Red Bull, I'd be playing LOTRO. I got a lvl 16 knight/guardian/tank thingy.
You can see my sci-fi/WW2 book recommendations.
If they were releasing content at the same pace as they originally did then sure. The reality is they are releasing it at break-neck speed by comparison.
Wa min God! Se æx on min heafod is!
Was plain Turbine wasnt the company to have the IP when they released Moria, and sadly Moria was far and away the best expansion they have put out.
Also not having 'creeps' open world was the first indication. An MMO with no opposition, and they claimed it was 'lore' then went on to make runecrafters and other nonsense that wasnt even close to lore related.
I know some people will think its cool but only because they arent thinking of what the IP should and could be if it was being made by someone with money and 'vision'.
Maybe Chris Roberts can tackle i t once he gets all he can from SC....
For PvMP there were plans for more zones at around the time of Osgiliath, but I think the numbers showed (remember the infamous Sapience post?
And agree that new server launches are always good (that's why I will play it). At the f2p launch, when they started a new server for the added load, Withywindle turned into my main server for several months, it was fun to play with the flow.
I don't follow this, to be honest... sure, as @Stizzled says the expansions are not included (though if you have them already, you will access them later) but the server will have only the base area for a while, so where's the "gimping"? And by the time they will advance the server ahead, you probably will be able to buy the Quad Pack on a sale...
The IP has more than enough content to do anything they want to with it. Even with the stuff they dont own the rights to.
Turbine got lucky and they made a decent game, and the fans and the fact nothing decent has come out for years has let them keep it going for a decade. After several buy outs Warner Brothers money, a new trilogy restoking the hype for the IP and being 'FTP" for 7 or 8 of the years its existed.
I own 2 lifetime accounts. best money I have spent, but even I havent played it with any seriousness for a couple years. I used to log on for all the new books and story advancements but I havent done that in awhile. Last one I played was Gondor I think. Cant remember when I even am in the story. With each passing 'failure' (IMO) I lost more and more interest. The last 'cool' think they did and even that was only cool by comparison/ Was letting you 'build' up the city in Rohan. Many saw that as too much of a grind so I am sure they have changed that since.
I could I suppose now that winter is here go back and burn through what I havent played yet, might take me a couple months if I take my time and grind deeds and achievements. Or I could try this new thing out. But more than likely not.
And I am not one to not play 'old' games. I have put more than a few hours into games a lot older than Lotro it just isnt drawing me to it like it used to.
Of course I will check out these 'legendary' servers. But if they had really wanted to entice guys like me back they would have made ones specifically for lifetime account holders, or even beta players. And then ones for "VIPs" (subscribers. That would have also allowed them to see the demographics of their game better. But I am sure they already know that and didnt make them as exclusive as I would have liked to see because they didnt want the general playerbase to be able to napkin math the numbers for themselves.
It's much better spending time on things you enjoy, you should try it out sometime.
If word got out that the mechanics are spot on, lag issues were a thing of the past, and classes have never been as balanced as now, wouldn't that bring a lot of people to the game too?
Gut Out!
What, me worry?
Wa min God! Se æx on min heafod is!