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Is WOW and EVE the ONLY MMOPRGs on the market?!

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  • ManInTheBoxManInTheBox Member Posts: 75

    Originally posted by Gameloading
    Originally posted by Krzy5iu
    Silly, thats not a link to the awards, thats the Eve forums.

    If you look at what I'm actually talking about, last years awards, you'll see Eve cleaned up. That makes it a good game so stop bashing.
    exactly, a link to the EVE forums where a developer asked the EVE playerbase to vote for the game, hence it won last year.




    Yes it beat allll the other games because 1 mod posted about it on the forums...i guess all these other awards were our 1 mods mad hax in action again.

    World of Roleplayers Radio: 'Best In-Game Econonmy'
         MM Hell: best mmo of 2004
         PC Gamer Sweden: Best Online RPG 2003
    SuperPlay GULDPIXELN 2003: Online Game of the year
         2003 Gamespy Best Graphics
         Game Revolution 2003 Editor's Choice Awards!
    IGN 2003 Outstanding Technical Achievement in Graphics

    Those are the ones outside of mmorpg because we obviously use mad single post hax to win this one every year

    I guess wow keeps losing for the sole reason of not having a single post on their forums about it because no one Cares. have a nice day

    "Because naturaly, its very wrong to have the mmorpg.com's community to
    pick the awards, instead of people who only come here to vote"

    Stay with your own arguments please. this has nothing at all to do with what you were bitching about a second ago. Thanks for throwing more dust in the air.




  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182



    Originally posted by ManInTheBox



    Originally posted by Gameloading



    Originally posted by Krzy5iu
    Silly, thats not a link to the awards, thats the Eve forums.

    If you look at what I'm actually talking about, last years awards, you'll see Eve cleaned up. That makes it a good game so stop bashing.


    exactly, a link to the EVE forums where a developer asked the EVE playerbase to vote for the game, hence it won last year.






    Yes it beat allll the other games because 1 mod posted about it on the forums...i guess all these other awards were our 1 mods mad hax in action again.

    World of Roleplayers Radio: 'Best In-Game Econonmy'
         MM Hell: best mmo of 2004
         PC Gamer Sweden: Best Online RPG 2003
    SuperPlay GULDPIXELN 2003: Online Game of the year
         2003 Gamespy Best Graphics
         Game Revolution 2003 Editor's Choice Awards!
    IGN 2003 Outstanding Technical Achievement in Graphics

    Those are the ones outside of mmorpg because we obviously use mad single post hax to win this one every year

    I guess wow keeps losing for the sole reason of not having a single post on their forums about it because no one Cares. have a nice day




    Very good, now compare it to the WoW awards.

    Keep dreaming pal. EVE won because CCP asked its players to vote, not because of its quality. What kind of award is that?

  • ManInTheBoxManInTheBox Member Posts: 75

    Originally posted by Gameloading
    Originally posted by ManInTheBox
    Originally posted by Gameloading
    Originally posted by Krzy5iu
    Silly, thats not a link to the awards, thats the Eve forums.

    If you look at what I'm actually talking about, last years awards, you'll see Eve cleaned up. That makes it a good game so stop bashing.
    exactly, a link to the EVE forums where a developer asked the EVE playerbase to vote for the game, hence it won last year.




    Yes it beat allll the other games because 1 mod posted about it on the forums...i guess all these other awards were our 1 mods mad hax in action again.

    World of Roleplayers Radio: 'Best In-Game Econonmy'
         MM Hell: best mmo of 2004
         PC Gamer Sweden: Best Online RPG 2003
    SuperPlay GULDPIXELN 2003: Online Game of the year
         2003 Gamespy Best Graphics
         Game Revolution 2003 Editor's Choice Awards!
    IGN 2003 Outstanding Technical Achievement in Graphics

    Those are the ones outside of mmorpg because we obviously use mad single post hax to win this one every year

    I guess wow keeps losing for the sole reason of not having a single post on their forums about it because no one Cares. have a nice day



    Very good, now compare it to the WoW awards.

    Keep dreaming pal. EVE won because CCP asked its players to vote, not because of its quality. What kind of award is that?




    Yes once again it was the single post HAX ftw. god forbid ccp use a single post on the forums and ask the palyers to vote for the game. what a travesty! Its mad hax and we're all dirty dirty people for voting.'

    I guess that one mod post was the reason we won all those others as well. good thing he's on the payroll


  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    Its funny how you pretend its nothing, but I bet you will be one of the first ones to proudly present the new won award.
  • ManInTheBoxManInTheBox Member Posts: 75

    Originally posted by Gameloading
    Its funny how you pretend its nothing, but I bet you will be one of the first ones to proudly present the new won award.
    Honestly i don't come here often but i felt the force of dumbass so strong i had to come see what the source of it was. i don't care if they win or not. i'll still be playing eve either way and the less it's noticed the "better quality in general" the player base will be. i like that it's not mainstream it makes my time in it better.

    And yes to many people a single post on a board isn't really that impressive....but what do i know i play a game with nothing but dots with a possy cultist image

    Sure Sure hoss the single mod posting that with his "Uber Mad Hax" is the reason we won all those awards including the ones from the magazines in it's entirety what was i thinking? hax ftw


  • DundeeDundee Member Posts: 233

    Originally posted by ManInTheBox
    ZMOG!!! someone posted on the forums about casting a vote and we one! i call HAX!

    and it was "Actually the READERS CHOICE awards. you know, mmorpg.com's readers choice awards,"

    not EVE-online.com's awards(moved that last part because it makes no damn sense) yay eve won the readers choice award as opposed to winning it's own award! call the hounds!

    or are you trying to say the readers choice awards won and not eve? do you even know at this point?

    It's really not an uncommon thing for a developer to send its fans out to vote in a thing like this. It's free advertising for them, and generally whomever is hosting the poll wants those eyeballs checking out the site. Maybe some will stay.  I'm cynical enough to think that's the whole reason for doing it most of the time.

    Eve's like most everything in so much as some people love it and some people don't.

    It's unlike anything else in the manner it has started-slow and grown steadily over time. Everyone else shoots straight up, peaks, and glides back toward a sequel. That's a pretty ineat trick.

    Regarding the original post in this thread, sometimes I get to feeling that WoW and Second Life are the only MMOs journalists can name, so they do, in the same sentence. Just  one to three times a week, and without a hint of realization that those things are unlike one another by a lot.



  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182



    Originally posted by ManInTheBox



    Originally posted by Gameloading
    Its funny how you pretend its nothing, but I bet you will be one of the first ones to proudly present the new won award.

    Honestly i don't come here often but i felt the force of dumbass so strong i had to come see what the source of it was. i don't care if they win or not. i'll still be playing eve either way and the less it's noticed the "better quality in general" the player base will be. i like that it's not mainstream it makes my time in it better.

    And yes to many people a single post on a board isn't really that impressive....but what do i know i play a game with nothing but dots with a possy cultist image

    Sure Sure hoss the single mod posting that with his "Uber Mad Hax" is the reason we won all those awards including the ones from the magazines in it's entirety what was i thinking? hax ftw


    WoW: Better reviews then EVE
    WoW: more awards then EVE
    WoW: MUCH more players then EVE
    WoW: Only western mmorpg that is doing good in asia. I'm sure you know the poorly performance of EVE china.

    all point out that WoW is a better game then EVE, yet these so called "readers choice" awards keep pointing to EVE. in fact, even the most loyal EVE fans said they would be very surprised if EVE would be nominated for "best PVE". But EVE got nominated for best PVE, "Beating" titles that are fully BASED on PVE, such as Everquest 2 and Final Fantasy XI.

    I will let you think about that one for a while.

  • ManInTheBoxManInTheBox Member Posts: 75
    "It's really not an uncommon thing for a developer to send its fans out
    to vote in a thing like this. It's free advertising for them, and
    generally whomever is hosting the poll wants
    those eyeballs checking out the site. Maybe some will stay.  I'm
    cynical enough to think that's the whole reason for doing it most of
    the time."

    I'm not saying  that this isn't the reason the dev put up the single post on the forums. i'm saying wow not only also has a forum but an ocean of players compared to eves pond yet we still win. if even a tenth of wows population cared enough to vote eve would be sunk in a hurry.

    I'm also that a single dev post didn't win eve any of those other awards as publishers don't really vote based on a dev post?



  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182



    Originally posted by ManInTheBox
    "It's really not an uncommon thing for a developer to send its fans out to vote in a thing like this. It's free advertising for them, and generally whomever is hosting the poll wants those eyeballs checking out the site. Maybe some will stay.  I'm cynical enough to think that's the whole reason for doing it most of the time."

    I'm not saying  that this isn't the reason the dev put up the single post on the forums. i'm saying wow not only also has a forum but an ocean of players compared to eves pond yet we still win. if even a tenth of wows population knew about the vote eve would be sunk in a hurry.

    I'm also that a single dev post didn't win eve any of those other awards as publishers don't really vote based on a dev post?



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  • ManInTheBoxManInTheBox Member Posts: 75

    So go make a goddamn post? if 1 post on our forums is the reason we've won why not stop bitching and go make one as i've said before?

    to cut off your bitching

    1. Post they care enough about stay on top(as i've shown)
    2. You could bump the post yourself if they really didn't care enough to keep it around themselves
    3. maybe your mods will sticky it like ours did but you'll never know unless you stop bitching here and go find out

    If you care so much about all that and are so sure that the only reason wow didn't win last time is that no one knew go post? our "sticky" was brought up by a player(as i've already said). this is the same thing i said hours ago and after all your squirming we are back to the same place. congradulations you've wasted an hour or two from both our lives just to end up on the wrong end up the stick right back where we started.

    The post that is now a sticky wasn't even up there untill today. it first popped up a few hours ago.  one of the mods noticed it and stuck it up but it was the players that put it there. if you care so much and want wow to win so badly go make a goddamn post and shut the #%@# up?


  • Krzy5iuKrzy5iu Member Posts: 17
    It's not our fault others didn't know.


  • ManInTheBoxManInTheBox Member Posts: 75

    shh i've already been through that with him dont' let him hear you and wiggle away again.
     while fighting on the forums is a waste of time if you chose to partake in it it's like playing chess on jello. often the other side moves peices that don't actually exist to try and further back up his point or tries to beat the jello around to make the field shift and wiggle so you lose track of the game at hand. this is at the end stage that sadly takes hours most often where he's out of jello and his pretend peices are now knocked from the game board.
    Anything that he could argue with that isn't in responce to what i hope i will be my final post will allow him more jello to wiggle and a new player to shift to in an attempt to not come out at the short end of the stick no matter what actually happens to the game.

    Yesterday on the eve forums some guy somehow ended up trying to fight with me over weather or not mercs would get killed more or less often with the support of us troops that arent there if low sec was iraq....most impressive i must say.

    Then another poster said

    "who the frick said i could drive a barge?"

    no where in the entire post had anyone made mention of a barge.

    i've been fighting everything from dragons to space pirates on the forums for years when i felt strongly enough about the topic and it often ends up providing many good laughs along the way.


  • BrainyBrainy Member EpicPosts: 2,164

    Ya Eve posting the award vote on its NEWS SECTION, and forums and making the post sticky hmmm that didnt effect the outcome.

    Lets see the results:

    • Best PVE game:  EVE
    • Best FPS game: EVE
    • Best fantasy medieval MMO: EVE
    • Best single player game: EVE
    • Best console game: EVE
    • Best autoracing game: EVE
    • Best game with spaceships: EVE
    • Best game without spaceships: EVE
    • Best board game: EVE
    • Best pen and paper game: EVE
    • Best Solo, Multiplayer, SCI FI, Medieval, MMO, Single Player, High Graphics, Low System Requirements, Monthly Fee, For Free, New Release, Old Release, This Year, Last Year, Next Year Game Ever Made: EVE

    The WINNER is EVE, what a surprise.  Its the jack of all trades, best at everything game.  I am sure glad for the awards.  Now I really know which game is best at what.  Its a good thing the awards are really accurate.

  • two2litrestwo2litres Member Posts: 50
    anyone ever played championship manager? its a soccer sim, and yea! theyre DOTS!
    DOTS! yea, poeople can have fun with dots and stats!
    unbelieveable.

    eve does what it sets out to do..and well, so does WoW.

    but in the end, my vote goes to eve - the wow universe is just so limited.
    its been so many years and blizzard hasnt really added anything substantial to expand thier universe or further the lore (besides the new expansion which you have to pay for...).
    honestly they dont deserve to win.



  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182

    I see somebody is starting to lose his patience. is that how you speak to people who don't agree with you? You tell them to "shut the fuck up"? Very childish. And here you are, saying how good and excellent the community of EVE is.

    But moving on to your post.

    Unfortunatly, I can not make stickied topics on the official WoW forum, like the EVE devs, neither can I post on the main website, like the EVE devs.

    Its obvious you don't understand the problem. naturaly, your a biased EVE fanboi.

    However, it seems your not really enjoying your stay here, as you ask other people to "make a goddamn post" and "shut the fuck up". Ofcourse I don't know what its like on the official eve forum, but over here, people who can't control themself over a GAME are usually frowned upon.

    Enjoy your stay. welcome to mmorpg.com, where not everybody is an EVE fan who will praise CCP to heaven.

  • ManInTheBoxManInTheBox Member Posts: 75
    i'm not saying the sticky doesn't have an affect i'm saying you could just as easily make a post on the wow boards which is where our sticky came from if you are so upset about it. the few people that saw it would greatly outnumber the entire population of eve within hours.

    Next?



  • Krzy5iuKrzy5iu Member Posts: 17
    We're talking about EVE not Maninthebox.
    Can't Blizzard devs sticky?



  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182



    Originally posted by ManInTheBox
    i'm not saying the sticky doesn't have an affect i'm saying you could just as easily make a post on the wow boards which is where our sticky came from if you are so upset about it. the few people that saw it would greatly outnumber the entire population of eve within hours.

    Next?



    It all depends how many notice it, and how many people can read it. as long as its not stickied like EVE, its not going to work.
  • DundeeDundee Member Posts: 233

    Originally posted by Gameloading
    WoW: Better reviews then EVE
    WoW: more awards then EVE
    WoW: MUCH more players then EVE
    WoW: Only western mmorpg that is doing good in asia. I'm sure you know the poorly performance of EVE china. all point out that WoW is a better game then EVE, yet these so called "readers choice" awards keep pointing to EVE. in fact, even the most loyal EVE fans said they would be very surprised if EVE would be nominated for "best PVE". But EVE got nominated for best PVE, "Beating" titles that are fully BASED on PVE, such as Everquest 2 and Final Fantasy XI. I will let you think about that one for a while.

    There's no question WoW is more popular than Eve. As you point out, it's even pretty obvious which games deliver what, which ones don't, and so it's absurd to use a survey to determine the popularity of things already known. I mean, why even offer the obviously not choices, right?

    But this also doesn't serve "better vs. worse" comparisons. Eve's old 4-hour tutorial, complicated complexity, and brutal PvP penalties would turn off most WoW fans. But neither can they be labeled as bad, when those are the very sorts of things that Eve fans like about their game. And why should they care if WoW players don't enjoy the things they like about Eve, anyway, eh?

    Clearly, the survey isn't useful to determine popularity nor to measure quality. There must another purpose being served...
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    Maybe it's just a team vs. team game itself. Not WoW vs. Eve but WoW players vs Eve players (et al). :)

  • two2litrestwo2litres Member Posts: 50

    theyre trying to determine the quality of mmorpgs, not determine which is more popular.

    honestly im just worried ccp will cave-in and hunt profits instead of following thier dreams, ending up like so many other games on the market which are basically just clones of each other.




  • ManInTheBoxManInTheBox Member Posts: 75

    "Unfortunatly, I can not make stickied topics on the official WoW forum, like the EVE devs, neither can I post on the main website, like the EVE devs."

    You're not the only wow player and we can't sticky either. for loving wow so much i don't belive you have no account try again.
    And the only thing on the main website is back in the news somewhere which no one reads. and even if the entire eve active playerbase saw it more people would see a post on the wow main thread within a few hours than THE ENITRE ACTIVE POPULATION OF EVE.


    "Its obvious you don't understand the problem. naturaly, your a biased EVE fanboi."

    I undrstand your point completly. you believe that the only reason eve wins and wow doesn't is because our mods grabed someones post and made it a sticky. one again go make a wow post(you or someone else) and leave it there through the forums primetime if you feel so strongly that this is the case. if they care enough it will stay on the front page(once again as i've shown) and if not bump it a few times yourself instead of bitching here?
    Who knows wow mods might even sticky it like ours did?

    *edited to avoid eternal flame war*

    "Enjoy your stay. welcome to mmorpg.com, where not everybody is an EVE fan who will praise CCP to heaven."

    Which as i've stated i'm glad off. eve is not for everyone and i would not enjoy having everyone play eve :)

    you keep saying the same thing over and over and i keep pointing out the obvious and repeating things i've said to you before. give it up already?

    ONE LAST TIME just for you

    "entire reason eve wins is because of the eve sticky and the wow players don't know about it"
    go make your own post that's where ours came from. you can make it someone else can make it. if the players care it will stay on top if not bump it a few times. the mods might even give you a sticky of your own. go find out?

    For the next couple of post you make

    Our sticky came from a player go post on wow forums and see if it gets sticky. if the players care it will stay on top if not bump it.






  • Krzy5iuKrzy5iu Member Posts: 17
    Yo ManInTheBox, you in eve now? Whats your ingame name?


  • two2litrestwo2litres Member Posts: 50
    like tryna topple a stone wall by throwing eggs at it.

    dont bother tryna convince him of anything, its obvious he is set in his thinking and nothing is gonna make him think otherwise.

    that is untill he realises what a shallow game WoW is.

    ~~~~~~~~~~www.s2games.com~~~~~~~~~~~~



  • ManInTheBoxManInTheBox Member Posts: 75

    Originally posted by Krzy5iu
    Yo ManInTheBox, you in eve now? Whats your ingame name?
    Not logged in atm busy here ceo/contact main is merchantigus(my trade guy and forum poster) <3
    (lol pls don't pod me ktnx ;P )


  • DundeeDundee Member Posts: 233

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    http://gameloading.blogspot.com/ - latest update: November 22

    My mmorpg Blog ;)


    Nice blog.

    Btw, You can make that a proper link in your sig (like my name down there) by changing your sig to something like this:

    [URL=http://gameloading.blogspot.com/]My mmorpg Blog[/URL]

    Without all the funky colors, I mean. Just did that to show the different pieces of it.

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