Originally posted by Hhussk Pretty sure I'm looking at the new footage. Seems to run smoothly. Some of the animations are a little weird to look at right now. The woman ran kinda weird. About graphics. Graphics is the least of my considerations towards playing a game. If it runs smooth and I like the game mechanics, that's all I need. Why worry about graphics, anyhow. You can update graphics as you go. But when a game is based on faulty mechanics, you're pretty much stuck within the framework.
Where do I buy the FanBoi blinders you have?
You can convince yourself as much as you like, but if -THAT- is anywhere near what is released then this game is going to fail so fast you'll hear a pop as the air rushes to fill the vacuum it leaves behind.
Sometimes i wonder if developers shouldent show anything froma game before release. So many cant understand that its still work in prgress. And thats not about DF....its about all MMOs in development.
And if a anamtion is the only thing to complain about.......then we have a good game at out hands : )
Pretty sure I'm looking at the new footage. Seems to run smoothly. Some of the animations are a little weird to look at right now. The woman ran kinda weird. About graphics. Graphics is the least of my considerations towards playing a game. If it runs smooth and I like the game mechanics, that's all I need. Why worry about graphics, anyhow. You can update graphics as you go. But when a game is based on faulty mechanics, you're pretty much stuck within the framework.
I agree.
However, we did have to endure this thread not too long ago:
Darkfall graphics better then Lotro and Age of Conan?
I think that most posters know what the answer to that "question" is... how many of them admit to it... well that's another matter.
The graphics are the least of DarkFall's worries. Anyone who is seriously interested in DarkFall will be playing it no matter what the graphics look like as long as it's fun to play. It just needs to get Open Beta and actually release first.
Graphics are way down on the list of things to worry about.
Sometimes i wonder if developers shouldent show anything froma game before release. So many cant understand that its still work in prgress. And thats not about DF....its about all MMOs in development. And if a anamtion is the only thing to complain about.......then we have a good game at out hands : )
I have to call BS on this. So many DF fanbois have pointed out to me (when I was trying to keep faith in FC and was horibly disappointed), that so close to release, nothing major will change. No mircale patch will come.
So if the animations are like this, you can expect them to be like this in the game when it releases. And animations are even more important to a game's -feel- than Graphics, particularly in a FPS game like this. I dunno, I will wait till I can test it, but I don't know if I would want to spend hours watching my character fight and move like -that-.
Originally posted by daarco Sometimes i wonder if developers shouldent show anything froma game before release. So many cant understand that its still work in prgress. And thats not about DF....its about all MMOs in development. And if a anamtion is the only thing to complain about.......then we have a good game at out hands : )
There must be a sale somewhere on them FanBoi blinders eh?
They are in beta! This isn't alpha we are talking about. This isn't a 'work in progress', this is 'the game' that they are making final tweeks to before they release it.
This is it guys! This is the game you've been waiting for!
Sometimes i wonder if developers shouldent show anything froma game before release. So many cant understand that its still work in prgress. And thats not about DF....its about all MMOs in development. And if a anamtion is the only thing to complain about.......then we have a good game at out hands : )
I have to call BS on this. So many DF fanbois have pointed out to me (when I was trying to keep faith in FC and was horibly disappointed), that so close to release, nothing major will change. No mircale patch will come.
So if the animations are like this, you can expect them to be like this in the game when it releases. And animations are even more important to a game's -feel- than Graphics, particularly in a FPS game like this. I dunno, I will wait till I can test it, but I don't know if I would want to spend hours watching my character fight and move like -that-.
This is why i give up on DF
you are 1-2 months from launch, there is no more miracle patch, update, etc. You are seeing the game pretty much.
Obviously the people who rail on these videos never played Ultima Online. Anyone who played UO has already fallen in love with a game with a 2d fixed 3/4 bird's eye view. All the dexers did was swing their weapons the same way everytime. Only the noise of it striking changed according to what was equipped. DF is aiming to please these people. They aren't trying to screen an IMAX version of what a graphical mmorpg is supposed to look like. I guarantee the graphics/animations could be much worse, but if they get half of their promised features in, there will be hundreds of thousands of happy, loyal customers.
The End.
Trammies need to stop polluting the MMORPG landscape. They already have enough games in which to emote hugs and sell garbage by the banks.
Don't be terrorized! You're more likely to die of a car accident, drowning, fire, or murder! More people die every year from prescription drugs than terrorism LOL!
I was hoping to see something to get excited about, but that was a really disappointing video for a number of reasons:
It was too short it didn't show much at all, other than ass, running and a much too quick shot of a battle. It doesn't show:
Character creation Interaction with any other player characters - true pvp would have been cool to see Interaction with any NPCs other than the goblin battle Questing Crafting Looting Pretty much anything....
The character animation while running is horrible and stiff - reminded me of a cartoon where the character's legs move, but the upper body doesn't.
The game did seem to run smoothly, but that *should* be expected in a game world with nobody else in it... ~Ripper
While I will agree with your points, you're last remark is utter rubish. It's an anti-conclusion. I believe something to be true, so every thing must adhere to my belief. It's exactly what most of the (heavy) skeptics are accusing the fanboys, which they always do themselves though, whithout wanting to admit to.
Sometimes i wonder if developers shouldent show anything froma game before release. So many cant understand that its still work in prgress. And thats not about DF....its about all MMOs in development. And if a anamtion is the only thing to complain about.......then we have a good game at out hands : )
Umm... that works for a MMO a long ways from release.
You do realize that just a few short days ago Tasos said everything was going great and they are still on target for release in 2008?
A "work in progress" is what we would expect if release was Q4 2009... not Dec. 2008. It's pretty obvious by now that's it's not going to be 2008... the question is if Tasos will come out and say that before 2008 ends, or if we will once again be met with silence.
Sometimes i wonder if developers shouldent show anything froma game before release. So many cant understand that its still work in prgress. And thats not about DF....its about all MMOs in development. And if a anamtion is the only thing to complain about.......then we have a good game at out hands : )
Three things regarding your comments:
When a game is this close to release they should have a solid release candidate. As such, it's much less a "work in progress" than it is an "almost ready for primetime" product. That being said, all MMOs are a work in progress, even after they launch.
If Darkfall is close to release, as it allegedly is, then this is the point in time when Aventurine should ramp up their marketing efforts, which should include previews.
Your statement about the animations being the only thing to complain about is ridiculous. It implies that the rest of the game is solid. The problem with that statement is the video didn't really show anything other than running animation through an empty world (except for a very brief fight scene), therefore there's nothing else to critique or admire.
All-in-all, I'm pretty excited about what the game allegedly has to offer. I want to see more and I'm disappointed that the video didn't show it.
Sometimes i wonder if developers shouldent show anything froma game before release. So many cant understand that its still work in prgress. And thats not about DF....its about all MMOs in development. And if a anamtion is the only thing to complain about.......then we have a good game at out hands : )
I have to call BS on this. So many DF fanbois have pointed out to me (when I was trying to keep faith in FC and was horibly disappointed), that so close to release, nothing major will change. No mircale patch will come.
So if the animations are like this, you can expect them to be like this in the game when it releases. And animations are even more important to a game's -feel- than Graphics, particularly in a FPS game like this. I dunno, I will wait till I can test it, but I don't know if I would want to spend hours watching my character fight and move like -that-.
Seriously, if bad animation is DFs only flaw, I will be a very very happy man.
Holy crap in a bucket did that look terrible! Oy! I'm amazed at how terrible that looked. Her legs moved but her body remained rigid like she had a rake handle up her butt or something. So many people are going to be disappointed by this game it's tragic.
Haha I have to agree.
The gameplay better deliver or Darkfall will have a hard start. One good thing though, we wont have any hype of the game after this video.
Sometimes i wonder if developers shouldent show anything froma game before release. So many cant understand that its still work in prgress. And thats not about DF....its about all MMOs in development. And if a anamtion is the only thing to complain about.......then we have a good game at out hands : )
I have to call BS on this. So many DF fanbois have pointed out to me (when I was trying to keep faith in FC and was horibly disappointed), that so close to release, nothing major will change. No mircale patch will come.
So if the animations are like this, you can expect them to be like this in the game when it releases. And animations are even more important to a game's -feel- than Graphics, particularly in a FPS game like this. I dunno, I will wait till I can test it, but I don't know if I would want to spend hours watching my character fight and move like -that-.
This is why i give up on DF
you are 1-2 months from launch, there is no more miracle patch, update, etc. You are seeing the game pretty much.
Relax!
Its a matter of taste. I laughed my ass of when i saw the running animation. But the other animations i had no problem with.
Overall the game looked very smooth. And thats what matters. And to redirect the BS acklaim, animations are not that hard to change. As long they have the basics done.
And seriously, how much did we see? Enough to change every view of the game? Dont think so. Maybe we will see a longer video soon.
Sometimes i wonder if developers shouldent show anything froma game before release. So many cant understand that its still work in prgress. And thats not about DF....its about all MMOs in development. And if a anamtion is the only thing to complain about.......then we have a good game at out hands : )
I have to call BS on this. So many DF fanbois have pointed out to me (when I was trying to keep faith in FC and was horibly disappointed), that so close to release, nothing major will change. No mircale patch will come.
So if the animations are like this, you can expect them to be like this in the game when it releases. And animations are even more important to a game's -feel- than Graphics, particularly in a FPS game like this. I dunno, I will wait till I can test it, but I don't know if I would want to spend hours watching my character fight and move like -that-.
Seriously, if bad animation is DFs only flaw, I will be a very very happy man.
But that is just it... we won't know about anything else until we can get into Open Beta and see for ourselves. The absence of Open Beta would seem to indicate that there ARE OTHER flaws that they are still working on with the Closed Beta Testers... as they should.
However, to blindly proclaim the absence of any other flaws when we are less than a month away from release and still have zero information on OPEN BETA... is a bit pre-mature in my opinion.
Well...while I will not deprive other people of their opinions and tastes and I will still try out DF when it comes out, I have to think back a moment and wonder:
At first, people complained about the graphics. That was discussed to death and eventually all the "fans" of DF beat down every argument with the words "Graphics don't matter at all".
Now we're also including Animations in the equation. So now it is "Graphics and Animations do not matter at all".
What will be next? Graphics, animations and crafting? In another thread people already downplay the possibility that DF's crafting will (apparently) be basic despite high promises in the beginning.
And if Graphics and Animations and all that "fluff" did not matter at all...why are you people even waiting for DF instead of playing on a UO freeshard or in a MUD?
Edit: Switched "fact" out and inserted "possibility" since it's not a fact yet. Sorry for that.
Originally posted by corpusc maybe the simple fact that
graphics quality and gameplay are 2 entirely seperate things?
keep proving your intelligence level.
and lack of taste on what looks goods, since you seem fond of the misfits look. *laughing hysterically, etc.*
not that that matters to gameplay at all (since you keep needing reminders)
Hmmm...
So far all I've seen from this game is poor animation and poor graphics. Have you seen anything that looks like great gameplay? Oh yeah, she's chasing that goblin around, oh boy, that's some great AI, monsters that run away. So new, so fresh...
Sometimes i wonder if developers shouldent show anything froma game before release. So many cant understand that its still work in prgress. And thats not about DF....its about all MMOs in development. And if a anamtion is the only thing to complain about.......then we have a good game at out hands : )
I have to call BS on this. So many DF fanbois have pointed out to me (when I was trying to keep faith in FC and was horibly disappointed), that so close to release, nothing major will change. No mircale patch will come.
So if the animations are like this, you can expect them to be like this in the game when it releases. And animations are even more important to a game's -feel- than Graphics, particularly in a FPS game like this. I dunno, I will wait till I can test it, but I don't know if I would want to spend hours watching my character fight and move like -that-.
Seriously, if bad animation is DFs only flaw, I will be a very very happy man.
But that is just it... we won't know about anything else until we can get into Open Beta and see for ourselves. The absence of Open Beta would seem to indicate that there ARE OTHER flaws that they are still working on with the Closed Beta Testers... as they should.
However, to blindly proclaim the absence of any other flaws when we are less than a month away from release and still have zero information on OPEN BETA... is a bit pre-mature in my opinion.
Ok, let's rephrase it.
Seriously, If bad animation is DFs only flaw, I will be a very very happy man.
Oh wait a minute, I didn't had to rephrase it, you just need to learn to read more carefuly.
While well over half of that video was screenshots(or...) what ever and the annoyence of repeating OR so many damn times it, darkfall, for some reason reminded me of good old DAoC
Sometimes i wonder if developers shouldent show anything froma game before release. So many cant understand that its still work in prgress. And thats not about DF....its about all MMOs in development. And if a anamtion is the only thing to complain about.......then we have a good game at out hands : )
I have to call BS on this. So many DF fanbois have pointed out to me (when I was trying to keep faith in FC and was horibly disappointed), that so close to release, nothing major will change. No mircale patch will come.
So if the animations are like this, you can expect them to be like this in the game when it releases. And animations are even more important to a game's -feel- than Graphics, particularly in a FPS game like this. I dunno, I will wait till I can test it, but I don't know if I would want to spend hours watching my character fight and move like -that-.
This is why i give up on DF
you are 1-2 months from launch, there is no more miracle patch, update, etc. You are seeing the game pretty much.
Relax!
Its a matter of taste. I laughed my ass of when i saw the running animation. But the other animations i had no problem with.
Overall the game looked very smooth. And thats what matters. And to redirect the BS acklaim, animations are not that hard to change. As long they have the basics done.
And seriously, how much did we see? Enough to change every view of the game? Dont think so. Maybe we will see a longer video soon.
I agree that it's a matter of taste.
But I think even the most ardent fan is going to have trouble being estatic about that video for a number of reasons.
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Unfortunatly short, however every time i see a video its more confirmation that the game runs smooth and looks great.. cant wait to play!
Remember Old School Ultima Online
Where do I buy the FanBoi blinders you have?
You can convince yourself as much as you like, but if -THAT- is anywhere near what is released then this game is going to fail so fast you'll hear a pop as the air rushes to fill the vacuum it leaves behind.
I was hoping to see something to get excited about, but that was a really disappointing video for a number of reasons:
The game did seem to run smoothly, but that *should* be expected in a game world with nobody else in it...
~Ripper
No wonder they're not letting high profile games media near this! You gotta laugh! Well, unless you're a DF fanboy I suppose.
Sometimes i wonder if developers shouldent show anything froma game before release. So many cant understand that its still work in prgress. And thats not about DF....its about all MMOs in development.
And if a anamtion is the only thing to complain about.......then we have a good game at out hands : )
I agree.
However, we did have to endure this thread not too long ago:
Darkfall graphics better then Lotro and Age of Conan?
www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/212737/page/3
I think that most posters know what the answer to that "question" is... how many of them admit to it... well that's another matter.
The graphics are the least of DarkFall's worries. Anyone who is seriously interested in DarkFall will be playing it no matter what the graphics look like as long as it's fun to play. It just needs to get Open Beta and actually release first.
Graphics are way down on the list of things to worry about.
I have to call BS on this. So many DF fanbois have pointed out to me (when I was trying to keep faith in FC and was horibly disappointed), that so close to release, nothing major will change. No mircale patch will come.
So if the animations are like this, you can expect them to be like this in the game when it releases. And animations are even more important to a game's -feel- than Graphics, particularly in a FPS game like this. I dunno, I will wait till I can test it, but I don't know if I would want to spend hours watching my character fight and move like -that-.
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy 7
There must be a sale somewhere on them FanBoi blinders eh?
They are in beta! This isn't alpha we are talking about. This isn't a 'work in progress', this is 'the game' that they are making final tweeks to before they release it.
This is it guys! This is the game you've been waiting for!
*laughs hysterically*
Have fun.
I have to call BS on this. So many DF fanbois have pointed out to me (when I was trying to keep faith in FC and was horibly disappointed), that so close to release, nothing major will change. No mircale patch will come.
So if the animations are like this, you can expect them to be like this in the game when it releases. And animations are even more important to a game's -feel- than Graphics, particularly in a FPS game like this. I dunno, I will wait till I can test it, but I don't know if I would want to spend hours watching my character fight and move like -that-.
This is why i give up on DF
you are 1-2 months from launch, there is no more miracle patch, update, etc. You are seeing the game pretty much.
Obviously the people who rail on these videos never played Ultima Online. Anyone who played UO has already fallen in love with a game with a 2d fixed 3/4 bird's eye view. All the dexers did was swing their weapons the same way everytime. Only the noise of it striking changed according to what was equipped. DF is aiming to please these people. They aren't trying to screen an IMAX version of what a graphical mmorpg is supposed to look like. I guarantee the graphics/animations could be much worse, but if they get half of their promised features in, there will be hundreds of thousands of happy, loyal customers.
The End.
Trammies need to stop polluting the MMORPG landscape. They already have enough games in which to emote hugs and sell garbage by the banks.
My reaction to the video. Great ass and
Don't be terrorized! You're more likely to die of a car accident, drowning, fire, or murder! More people die every year from prescription drugs than terrorism LOL!
While I will agree with your points, you're last remark is utter rubish. It's an anti-conclusion. I believe something to be true, so every thing must adhere to my belief. It's exactly what most of the (heavy) skeptics are accusing the fanboys, which they always do themselves though, whithout wanting to admit to.
Umm... that works for a MMO a long ways from release.
You do realize that just a few short days ago Tasos said everything was going great and they are still on target for release in 2008?
A "work in progress" is what we would expect if release was Q4 2009... not Dec. 2008. It's pretty obvious by now that's it's not going to be 2008... the question is if Tasos will come out and say that before 2008 ends, or if we will once again be met with silence.
Why does it feel like I have seen 3/4 of this video before, and I don't mean recently seen.
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Three things regarding your comments:
All-in-all, I'm pretty excited about what the game allegedly has to offer. I want to see more and I'm disappointed that the video didn't show it.
~Ripper
I have to call BS on this. So many DF fanbois have pointed out to me (when I was trying to keep faith in FC and was horibly disappointed), that so close to release, nothing major will change. No mircale patch will come.
So if the animations are like this, you can expect them to be like this in the game when it releases. And animations are even more important to a game's -feel- than Graphics, particularly in a FPS game like this. I dunno, I will wait till I can test it, but I don't know if I would want to spend hours watching my character fight and move like -that-.
Seriously, if bad animation is DFs only flaw, I will be a very very happy man.
Haha I have to agree.
The gameplay better deliver or Darkfall will have a hard start. One good thing though, we wont have any hype of the game after this video.
I will still play it.
I have to call BS on this. So many DF fanbois have pointed out to me (when I was trying to keep faith in FC and was horibly disappointed), that so close to release, nothing major will change. No mircale patch will come.
So if the animations are like this, you can expect them to be like this in the game when it releases. And animations are even more important to a game's -feel- than Graphics, particularly in a FPS game like this. I dunno, I will wait till I can test it, but I don't know if I would want to spend hours watching my character fight and move like -that-.
This is why i give up on DF
you are 1-2 months from launch, there is no more miracle patch, update, etc. You are seeing the game pretty much.
Relax!
Its a matter of taste. I laughed my ass of when i saw the running animation. But the other animations i had no problem with.
Overall the game looked very smooth. And thats what matters. And to redirect the BS acklaim, animations are not that hard to change. As long they have the basics done.
And seriously, how much did we see? Enough to change every view of the game? Dont think so. Maybe we will see a longer video soon.
I have to call BS on this. So many DF fanbois have pointed out to me (when I was trying to keep faith in FC and was horibly disappointed), that so close to release, nothing major will change. No mircale patch will come.
So if the animations are like this, you can expect them to be like this in the game when it releases. And animations are even more important to a game's -feel- than Graphics, particularly in a FPS game like this. I dunno, I will wait till I can test it, but I don't know if I would want to spend hours watching my character fight and move like -that-.
Seriously, if bad animation is DFs only flaw, I will be a very very happy man.
But that is just it... we won't know about anything else until we can get into Open Beta and see for ourselves. The absence of Open Beta would seem to indicate that there ARE OTHER flaws that they are still working on with the Closed Beta Testers... as they should.
However, to blindly proclaim the absence of any other flaws when we are less than a month away from release and still have zero information on OPEN BETA... is a bit pre-mature in my opinion.
Well...while I will not deprive other people of their opinions and tastes and I will still try out DF when it comes out, I have to think back a moment and wonder:
At first, people complained about the graphics. That was discussed to death and eventually all the "fans" of DF beat down every argument with the words "Graphics don't matter at all".
Now we're also including Animations in the equation. So now it is "Graphics and Animations do not matter at all".
What will be next? Graphics, animations and crafting? In another thread people already downplay the possibility that DF's crafting will (apparently) be basic despite high promises in the beginning.
And if Graphics and Animations and all that "fluff" did not matter at all...why are you people even waiting for DF instead of playing on a UO freeshard or in a MUD?
Edit: Switched "fact" out and inserted "possibility" since it's not a fact yet. Sorry for that.
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy 7
Hmmm...
So far all I've seen from this game is poor animation and poor graphics. Have you seen anything that looks like great gameplay? Oh yeah, she's chasing that goblin around, oh boy, that's some great AI, monsters that run away. So new, so fresh...
I have to call BS on this. So many DF fanbois have pointed out to me (when I was trying to keep faith in FC and was horibly disappointed), that so close to release, nothing major will change. No mircale patch will come.
So if the animations are like this, you can expect them to be like this in the game when it releases. And animations are even more important to a game's -feel- than Graphics, particularly in a FPS game like this. I dunno, I will wait till I can test it, but I don't know if I would want to spend hours watching my character fight and move like -that-.
Seriously, if bad animation is DFs only flaw, I will be a very very happy man.
But that is just it... we won't know about anything else until we can get into Open Beta and see for ourselves. The absence of Open Beta would seem to indicate that there ARE OTHER flaws that they are still working on with the Closed Beta Testers... as they should.
However, to blindly proclaim the absence of any other flaws when we are less than a month away from release and still have zero information on OPEN BETA... is a bit pre-mature in my opinion.
Ok, let's rephrase it.
Seriously, If bad animation is DFs only flaw, I will be a very very happy man.
Oh wait a minute, I didn't had to rephrase it, you just need to learn to read more carefuly.
While well over half of that video was screenshots(or...) what ever and the annoyence of repeating OR so many damn times it, darkfall, for some reason reminded me of good old DAoC
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since when are animations not part of the whole GRAPHICS package? yes, more genius postings. can't seperate elments at all.
and, crafting was stated LONG ago to be barebones and functional. with NO innovations or twists to it.
the DEVS said that.
so even when they TELL you that about their own game, you are somehow expecting some new innovative crafting system?
more genious.
quit while you're behind.
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I have to call BS on this. So many DF fanbois have pointed out to me (when I was trying to keep faith in FC and was horibly disappointed), that so close to release, nothing major will change. No mircale patch will come.
So if the animations are like this, you can expect them to be like this in the game when it releases. And animations are even more important to a game's -feel- than Graphics, particularly in a FPS game like this. I dunno, I will wait till I can test it, but I don't know if I would want to spend hours watching my character fight and move like -that-.
This is why i give up on DF
you are 1-2 months from launch, there is no more miracle patch, update, etc. You are seeing the game pretty much.
Relax!
Its a matter of taste. I laughed my ass of when i saw the running animation. But the other animations i had no problem with.
Overall the game looked very smooth. And thats what matters. And to redirect the BS acklaim, animations are not that hard to change. As long they have the basics done.
And seriously, how much did we see? Enough to change every view of the game? Dont think so. Maybe we will see a longer video soon.
I agree that it's a matter of taste.
But I think even the most ardent fan is going to have trouble being estatic about that video for a number of reasons.