If you look at the AoC animations you can see there a distinct lock out period whilst the animation plays during combat, Darkfall does not look as good but does not have any lock out. Apart from the instancing this was the main reason that I didn't like AoC.
I'm sure the Darkfall animations could be better but if I would not play it if they had AoC style loss of character control.
HhusskCity of Heroes CorrespondentMemberPosts: 219
Originally posted by SenL
Originally posted by Hhussk
You really have no clue. You see, I'll play a MUD game, all text, before I play some of these other games. Graphics really don't mean anything to me.
who cares? this isn't fucking 1992 anymore. I'am sure you'll be happy playing Darkfall with the other 100 people because after watching that video that's the total amount that's going to be playing.
That shit looks like EQ1
Who cares? Obviously you do. Otherwise you wouldn't be here in a Darkfall thread.
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Absolutely terrible, after the shock of it I just couldn’t stop watching it and laughing, 8 years of development for this?
After all those endless arguments with the supporters and their hype about how incredible and revolutionary Darkfall would be ,not to mention the developers, and this is it, farcical.
No need to say anymore, looks like this has been a rude awaking for some judging by the responses on the official board.
If Darkfall does start open beta or launch next month which I very much doubt it will, prepare to be even more disappointed.
Remember, this 1 min heavily edited clip represents the best they could or would show 1 month from launch, everything else is probably even worse, still in "internal beta testing" stage or just non existent.
Quite possibly the worst pre launch beta gameplay preview video ever, lets hope the game is at least a little better.
Have you guys ever thought of playing a game for gameplay value rather then graphics? Some of the best games out there have had completely horrible graphics. Now I'm not saying the graphics are bad or good. They honestly are pretty meh....but how does the gameplay feel? In every super duper graphical MMO what is there to do besides grind to max level in two days then quit because you are bored? How many scenarios can you run before your eyes begind to bleed? That is what you should ask yourselves.
HhusskCity of Heroes CorrespondentMemberPosts: 219
I've noticed in the last hour or so since the video was released that no one is using the term "Vaporware" anymore.
So, I'm guessing that you all now believe there is a game, and have moved on to phase II.
Phase I - Call Darkfall "Vaporware".
Phase II - Call any video/screenshots and reviews "trash", "worst ever", (et al.). Announce to the world that no one will play it.
Phase III - When open beta arrives, focus on all the bugs. Once again, announce that the game is "fail" and will never last.
Phase IV - When game goes live, use every opportunity to complain about crashes, bugs, late fixes, etc. Once again announce that the game will crash.
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I am losing so much respect right now for some of the posters on this forum after reading the comments.
Yes the video didn't show much, and animations are bad this is nothing new.
This video wasn't suppose to be amazing like the 17min gameplay trailer. I can't understand how people are saying stuff like "After 8 years this is all they have"....This wasn't a video that Aventurine produced.....it wasn't meant for anything but to show their experience and what they can show under the nda.
That being said this video wasn't worth putting out as it didnt show anything new. People who were crying fake will still cry fake because they are only here to cause problems, and beyond that we didn't see anything new.
The AI looks amazing as we have been told after looking at the goblin.
Open beta will still decide this game.
It just shows how worried people are about DF by having them hop all over this lackluster video and pulling nonsense out of the air about what it was suppose to be.
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
It was an unnecessary and imprudent mistake for Aventurine to commit themselves officially to a launch this year, and to mention open beta was scheduled to end in early December.
There will always be people who are willing to wait for soon, they have been doing it for 8 years already.
But to let these two people write this “review” and show this video of public beta as part of their pre launch promotion defies explanation, is this incompetence and ignorance or is it just an act of desperation or even worse something else entirely.
Hopefully we will find out next month.
I just cant believe it, that video, what were they thinking.
It failed years ago. It's only been living on bullshit hype since than spread around by moronic 14 year old fanboys.
We'll see soon huh
If you are so confident then share your main account name mr. 11/26 who probably got banned....or even worse created an account today to bash a game?
Open beta will decide the game and you cant argue that no matter how much you want to troll. If this game is good in open beta....then its good. simple as that. people will review it as being good and it will sell.
If it sucks then it sucks and the same will happen through word of mouth.
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
Have you guys ever thought of playing a game for gameplay value rather then graphics?
Ya but what do you do when the gameplay looks like ass too?
Then it is fail in that case. I haven't played it. The gameplay looks fine from the video but the true test will be at launch when I buy and try just like every other MMO that has come out in the past 10 years.
It failed years ago. It's only been living on bullshit hype since than spread around by moronic 14 year old fanboys.
The irony is they helped it to fail even harder by building it up to heights it could never reach,
And with the edit of that last line...you fail even worse.
They didn't build the game up at all. Pick one arguement. Naysayers cant say they fail for not giving us info....and then say they built the game up too much.
I smell fear from carebears.....and it smells gooooooooooood.
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
Remember the 17 min trailer was just that , a trailer , not a game play video.
And it took them 3 months to produce it, its like every other MMO game trailer, its not a good representation of authentic game play.
This latest video is ,and the one from ADW are, because they show what actually playing Darkfall public beta is like, and what state the game is in 1 month from launch
Just like their review and the beta testimonials confirm.
Forget everything else they have said for the last 8 years.
This is Darkfall.
If they really are launching in December I wish them the best of luck, they will certainly need it.
Hopefully for all concerned they still have the resources to delay the game again and continue development.
HhusskCity of Heroes CorrespondentMemberPosts: 219
Originally posted by SenL
Originally posted by imbant
Open beta will still decide this game.
The fate of this "game" was sealed years ago.
It failed years ago. It's only been living on bullshit hype since than spread around by moronic 14 year old fanboys.
The irony is they helped it to fail even harder by building it up to heights it could never reach,
Build up the game? I must have missed all the ads, reviews with developers, footage, et al.
Maybe you are confused with Age of Conan...
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The AI looks amazing as we have been told after looking at the goblin.
Are you sure that goblin isn't controlled by Tasos in the other room?
----------------------------- Originally posted by Frobner "Massive sieges" "mounted combat" and "spellweaving" are just few words that spring to mind when I hear the word AOC.... But the word FAILURE will always top the list.
HhusskCity of Heroes CorrespondentMemberPosts: 219
Originally posted by SenL
Originally posted by Hhussk
Originally posted by SenL
Originally posted by imbant
Open beta will still decide this game.
The fate of this "game" was sealed years ago.
It failed years ago. It's only been living on bullshit hype since than spread around by moronic 14 year old fanboys.
The irony is they helped it to fail even harder by building it up to heights it could never reach,
Build up the game? I must have missed all the ads, reviews with developers, footage, et al.
Fanboys don't need ads. They just need forums and youtube and their wild imaginations..... to fill in the blank gaps with their dreams and wish lists and call it fact..
I'm still trying to figure out why you created your account today about an hour ago. Did you go to all that effort just to troll Darkfall?
Seriously, what will your job be once it opens up? Are you going to create an anti-Darkfall website? Are you going to create Darkfall accounts just so you can cancel?
It just seems that you're clinging to some pathetic ideal that makes you want other people to be miserable like you.
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Can't wait to play ...and stretch this bow and aim myself..look how carefully he try to aim "before" the target to hit it taking trajectory into account ...wonderful
Amazing
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- $OE - eternal enemy of online gaming -We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
Can't wait to play ...and stretch this bow and aim myself.. Amazing
Fuck ya.. Cause everyone knows sretching a bow and aiming is some A+ amazing gameplay.
Just give it up already.
You know that video looks like pure junk. Just do yourself a favor and admit it and stop living in a dream world.
I am excited.. dude ,
Do you notice how he try to aim to some point before the goblin, taking into account the way of arrow and the estimated way of the goblin ..?
This game is like made for me ! finally ..
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- $OE - eternal enemy of online gaming -We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
HhusskCity of Heroes CorrespondentMemberPosts: 219
Originally posted by DarthRaiden
Originally posted by SenL
Originally posted by DarthRaiden
Can't wait to play ...and stretch this bow and aim myself.. Amazing
Fuck ya.. Cause everyone knows sretching a bow and aiming is some A+ amazing gameplay.
Just give it up already.
You know that video looks like pure junk. Just do yourself a favor and admit it and stop living in a dream world.
I am excited.. dude ,
Do you notice how he try to aim to some point before the goblin, taking into account the way of arrow and the estimated way of the goblin ..?
This game is like made for me ! finally ..
{ Mod Edit }
Hey DarthRaiden, I was reading some of the tester comments that the AI was pretty awesome. One guy wrote that he faced off with a goblin, waiting for it to make its move before he would release his arrow. The goblin was doing the same thing, waiting for him. Kinda humorous to see yourself out-maneuvered by a goblin.
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I've noticed in the last hour or so since the video was released that no one is using the term "Vaporware" anymore. So, I'm guessing that you all now believe there is a game, and have moved on to phase II.
Phase I - Call Darkfall "Vaporware". Phase II - Call any video/screenshots and reviews "trash", "worst ever", (et al.). Announce to the world that no one will play it. Phase III - When open beta arrives, focus on all the bugs. Once again, announce that the game is "fail" and will never last. Phase IV - When game goes live, use every opportunity to complain about crashes, bugs, late fixes, etc. Once again announce that the game will crash.
I have never termed the game vaporware. There's obviously a game here somewhere. But... We haven't seen actual evidence of an MMO. We really don't know if this game can be logged into from anywhere other than the Adventurine offices.
One thing that I have noticed from the animations is that you are in control of your character all of the time, which is important to me. it.youtube.com/watch - AoC it.youtube.com/watch - Darkfall If you look at the AoC animations you can see there a distinct lock out period whilst the animation plays during combat, Darkfall does not look as good but does not have any lock out. Apart from the instancing this was the main reason that I didn't like AoC. I'm sure the Darkfall animations could be better but if I would not play it if they had AoC style loss of character control.
I'm glad you put those two side by side because it really does put it into perspective. Yes, Darkfall's animations aren't as good but they are not as bad as some people are making them sound.
This video doesn't show enough to assume that the game sucks, nor that it's awesome. Anybody that's made judgement already is setting themselves up to look stupid later.
Lots of old footage and stills too. Its quite funny at the end, where you expect some like company logos and some kind of release date, but nothing shows.
Currently waiting for the MMO industry to put out something good.
Comments
One thing that I have noticed from the animations is that you are in control of your character all of the time, which is important to me.
it.youtube.com/watch - AoC
it.youtube.com/watch - Darkfall
If you look at the AoC animations you can see there a distinct lock out period whilst the animation plays during combat, Darkfall does not look as good but does not have any lock out. Apart from the instancing this was the main reason that I didn't like AoC.
I'm sure the Darkfall animations could be better but if I would not play it if they had AoC style loss of character control.
who cares? this isn't fucking 1992 anymore. I'am sure you'll be happy playing Darkfall with the other 100 people because after watching that video that's the total amount that's going to be playing.
That shit looks like EQ1
Who cares? Obviously you do. Otherwise you wouldn't be here in a Darkfall thread.
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Absolutely terrible, after the shock of it I just couldn’t stop watching it and laughing, 8 years of development for this?
After all those endless arguments with the supporters and their hype about how incredible and revolutionary Darkfall would be ,not to mention the developers, and this is it, farcical.
No need to say anymore, looks like this has been a rude awaking for some judging by the responses on the official board.
If Darkfall does start open beta or launch next month which I very much doubt it will, prepare to be even more disappointed.
Remember, this 1 min heavily edited clip represents the best they could or would show 1 month from launch, everything else is probably even worse, still in "internal beta testing" stage or just non existent.
Quite possibly the worst pre launch beta gameplay preview video ever, lets hope the game is at least a little better.
Have you guys ever thought of playing a game for gameplay value rather then graphics? Some of the best games out there have had completely horrible graphics. Now I'm not saying the graphics are bad or good. They honestly are pretty meh....but how does the gameplay feel? In every super duper graphical MMO what is there to do besides grind to max level in two days then quit because you are bored? How many scenarios can you run before your eyes begind to bleed? That is what you should ask yourselves.
I've noticed in the last hour or so since the video was released that no one is using the term "Vaporware" anymore.
So, I'm guessing that you all now believe there is a game, and have moved on to phase II.
Phase I - Call Darkfall "Vaporware".
Phase II - Call any video/screenshots and reviews "trash", "worst ever", (et al.). Announce to the world that no one will play it.
Phase III - When open beta arrives, focus on all the bugs. Once again, announce that the game is "fail" and will never last.
Phase IV - When game goes live, use every opportunity to complain about crashes, bugs, late fixes, etc. Once again announce that the game will crash.
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Blog -Transcendent''s Tomb - Reviews, Polls, and tortured opinions from the minions of MMORPGS
http://www.mmorpg.com/blogs/Hhussk
I am losing so much respect right now for some of the posters on this forum after reading the comments.
Yes the video didn't show much, and animations are bad this is nothing new.
This video wasn't suppose to be amazing like the 17min gameplay trailer. I can't understand how people are saying stuff like "After 8 years this is all they have"....This wasn't a video that Aventurine produced.....it wasn't meant for anything but to show their experience and what they can show under the nda.
That being said this video wasn't worth putting out as it didnt show anything new. People who were crying fake will still cry fake because they are only here to cause problems, and beyond that we didn't see anything new.
The AI looks amazing as we have been told after looking at the goblin.
Open beta will still decide this game.
It just shows how worried people are about DF by having them hop all over this lackluster video and pulling nonsense out of the air about what it was suppose to be.
~~
Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
It was an unnecessary and imprudent mistake for Aventurine to commit themselves officially to a launch this year, and to mention open beta was scheduled to end in early December.
There will always be people who are willing to wait for soon, they have been doing it for 8 years already.
But to let these two people write this “review” and show this video of public beta as part of their pre launch promotion defies explanation, is this incompetence and ignorance or is it just an act of desperation or even worse something else entirely.
Hopefully we will find out next month.
I just cant believe it, that video, what were they thinking.
I really hope thi game will be awesome
The fate of this "game" was sealed years ago.
It failed years ago. It's only been living on bullshit hype since than spread around by moronic 14 year old fanboys.
We'll see soon huh
If you are so confident then share your main account name mr. 11/26 who probably got banned....or even worse created an account today to bash a game?
Open beta will decide the game and you cant argue that no matter how much you want to troll. If this game is good in open beta....then its good. simple as that. people will review it as being good and it will sell.
If it sucks then it sucks and the same will happen through word of mouth.
You are allowed to say you think it will suck.
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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
Ya but what do you do when the gameplay looks like ass too?
Then it is fail in that case. I haven't played it. The gameplay looks fine from the video but the true test will be at launch when I buy and try just like every other MMO that has come out in the past 10 years.
The fate of this "game" was sealed years ago.
It failed years ago. It's only been living on bullshit hype since than spread around by moronic 14 year old fanboys.
The irony is they helped it to fail even harder by building it up to heights it could never reach,
And with the edit of that last line...you fail even worse.
They didn't build the game up at all. Pick one arguement. Naysayers cant say they fail for not giving us info....and then say they built the game up too much.
I smell fear from carebears.....and it smells gooooooooooood.
~~
Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
Remember the 17 min trailer was just that , a trailer , not a game play video.
And it took them 3 months to produce it, its like every other MMO game trailer, its not a good representation of authentic game play.
This latest video is ,and the one from ADW are, because they show what actually playing Darkfall public beta is like, and what state the game is in 1 month from launch
Just like their review and the beta testimonials confirm.
Forget everything else they have said for the last 8 years.
This is Darkfall.
If they really are launching in December I wish them the best of luck, they will certainly need it.
Hopefully for all concerned they still have the resources to delay the game again and continue development.
The fate of this "game" was sealed years ago.
It failed years ago. It's only been living on bullshit hype since than spread around by moronic 14 year old fanboys.
The irony is they helped it to fail even harder by building it up to heights it could never reach,
Build up the game? I must have missed all the ads, reviews with developers, footage, et al.
Maybe you are confused with Age of Conan...
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Blog -Transcendent''s Tomb - Reviews, Polls, and tortured opinions from the minions of MMORPGS
http://www.mmorpg.com/blogs/Hhussk
Are you sure that goblin isn't controlled by Tasos in the other room?
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Originally posted by Frobner
"Massive sieges" "mounted combat" and "spellweaving" are just few words that spring to mind when I hear the word AOC.... But the word FAILURE will always top the list.
The fate of this "game" was sealed years ago.
It failed years ago. It's only been living on bullshit hype since than spread around by moronic 14 year old fanboys.
The irony is they helped it to fail even harder by building it up to heights it could never reach,
Build up the game? I must have missed all the ads, reviews with developers, footage, et al.
Fanboys don't need ads. They just need forums and youtube and their wild imaginations..... to fill in the blank gaps with their dreams and wish lists and call it fact..
I'm still trying to figure out why you created your account today about an hour ago. Did you go to all that effort just to troll Darkfall?
Seriously, what will your job be once it opens up? Are you going to create an anti-Darkfall website? Are you going to create Darkfall accounts just so you can cancel?
It just seems that you're clinging to some pathetic ideal that makes you want other people to be miserable like you.
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http://www.mmorpg.com/blogs/Hhussk
Can't wait to play ...and stretch this bow and aim myself..look how carefully he try to aim "before" the target to hit it taking trajectory into account ...wonderful
Amazing
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
Actually it was both.
It was a gameplay trailer.
100% ingame footage.
forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php
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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
Fuck ya.. Cause everyone knows sretching a bow and aiming is some A+ amazing gameplay.
Just give it up already.
You know that video looks like pure junk. Just do yourself a favor and admit it and stop living in a dream world.
I am excited.. dude ,
Do you notice how he try to aim to some point before the goblin, taking into account the way of arrow and the estimated way of the goblin ..?
This game is like made for me ! finally ..
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
Are you sure that goblin isn't controlled by Tasos in the other room?
Yes actually.
~~
Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
I am excited.. dude ,Do you notice how he try to aim to some point before the goblin, taking into account the way of arrow and the estimated way of the goblin ..?
This game is like made for me ! finally ..
{ Mod Edit }
Hey DarthRaiden, I was reading some of the tester comments that the AI was pretty awesome. One guy wrote that he faced off with a goblin, waiting for it to make its move before he would release his arrow. The goblin was doing the same thing, waiting for him. Kinda humorous to see yourself out-maneuvered by a goblin.
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Blog -Transcendent''s Tomb - Reviews, Polls, and tortured opinions from the minions of MMORPGS
http://www.mmorpg.com/blogs/Hhussk
anyone else notice from 2:15-2:20 it was infact Warhammer Mark of Chaos and not Darkfall?
oh and 'free to kill anything and anyone' contradicts 'free to choose between PvP and PvE'
aside from that nice vid. that mounted combat was really nice.
MMO wish list:
-Changeable worlds
-Solid non level based game
-Sharks with lasers attached to their heads
I have never termed the game vaporware. There's obviously a game here somewhere. But... We haven't seen actual evidence of an MMO. We really don't know if this game can be logged into from anywhere other than the Adventurine offices.
Not yet anyway.
I'm glad you put those two side by side because it really does put it into perspective. Yes, Darkfall's animations aren't as good but they are not as bad as some people are making them sound.
This video doesn't show enough to assume that the game sucks, nor that it's awesome. Anybody that's made judgement already is setting themselves up to look stupid later.
any one else notice slight lag and offset hitboxes at :30 and :45?
Ugh, looks like some corny fan-made video. : /.
Lots of old footage and stills too. Its quite funny at the end, where you expect some like company logos and some kind of release date, but nothing shows.