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I agree we can't tell about the TOR information at all. Maybe Louse works on the TOR team or interfaces with them, maybe he doesn't (obviously he can't say since that would probably reveal his identity if he was on the team). Info at this time is going to be sketchy anyhow, even if ti was accurate. Things can change, especially when it is some nebulous stuff like Louse implied (and truly, the TOR stuff was just a tiny comment on his part). Like I said, the Open Beta should tell us a lot about the game's quality. If a lot of content isn't in the Open Beta (that's a bad sign), then I'd suggest holding off on buying the game until a month or three after release. In any case, today prudence shall be our watchword.
Hmm, my friends when I played FFXI thought I was an paleontologist because of my name. I usually get a dragon avatar of some sort ("Drache" is German for "Dragon"). It's similar to a dinosaur.
What do you expect when every post you make is throwing around an accusation of fanboism? Here's the bottom line, no one is a fanboi because they are shooting this blogger down. It doesn't matter who he is, his information said nothing, there's absolutely nothing of value in what he said.
You can feel however you want about how Bioware has been releasing information. If it's not enough for you, it's simple, avoid the game until everything about it is known, then you can make a decision based on the information that comes to light. There's nothing to argue about here, it's mind boggling a few short sentences about TOR can cause so much bickering.
Regarding GW2 who gives a flying ****, this the TOR forum, GW2 has no place in these discussions.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I wasn't approving of any behavior, I was trying to make him realize that you were not interested in finding this information for yourself. I didn't want Kriosis to lose his temper over something that cannot be helped, which are posters that can very well be oblivious to current features in the game. In an earlier post you said you weren't sure what you were looking at (in regards to the link he posted), and that the link/thread he posted had a lot of the information (but nothing was shown). What you didn't know is that the thread linked all of the information too, and even expanded on it in some aspects.
Everyone who knows me here knows that I'm excited for TOR, but I cannot (or rather would not) police peoples opinions because I don't want people to not voice them. I may not agree with them, but I can't change them. The most I can do is direct others to a larger wealth of information as Kriosis tried to do. We can't be held responsible for what people choose to do with that information, we can only react afterwards.
Well thanks this repsonse.. What I meant with the context issue is that I am not convinced this is a full blown MMO and that other people also arn't and SOME actually think that its just a SRPG, proving that people really arn't convinced at all. I do not think it will be a SRPG, yet I am also not 100% convinced it isn't. The outcome will be either release or actual proof (that I have missed clearly :P).
I might have come of a bit pissed, but really I was just trying to have a discussion with these people here but they kept twisting my words (which are sometimes indeed poorly chosen as my spelling in english sucks so I use a more limited vocab) and pulling things I said out of context.
As far as I remember sanya weathers never said she thought he was or was not legit. She only spoke so she could clear up some misinformation that was in his post about her. Than she said that she didn't mean to give "fanboys ammo" , because she also has some sort of an axe to grind with this company.
"When it comes to GW2 any game is fair game"
Contradictions, we twist your words? Then you admit to your english being rather bad?
And didn't masked link you something or explain to you group play has been demonstrated a few times? Destroying "It's a SPRPG" theory? Sorry, but I stil think you're just ignoring the truth. Actually I linked you a great deal of info, all in one link.
To me; this seems like some punk shooting off at the mouth. I have to be honest the community I game with, the one that I need to make things work. It makes me nervous. It's so negative it's beyond belief. It's made so many products 'fail' than it ever has succeed (Fallen Earth, Star Trek on-line, FF14, APB, Aion?!, age of conan) . To the point, were creating a great on-line multi player game, almost doesn't seem worth the hard work.
Please start being positive about this game, Bioware do know how to make good video games! I wish they made dragon age on-line...
Disgruntled soon to be ex-employees are often an excellent source of non-biased information about their soon to be former employer.
YOu do it again right here. Twisting my words...
She didn't even deny a loud argument between her and the boss occured. She just denied that it was why she got fired and clarified some of the disagreements that Louse got wrong. She did seem to think the guy was legit though, just wrong on some things about her.
Anyhow, people need to chill out about it. We'll during Open Beta whether it is a safe idea to buy the game at launch, and we'll know for sure within a month or two of launch whether the game is any good and whether it justifies a sub fee. No amount of arguing is going to clarify how correct EALouse was regarding his TOR comments -- which were clearly a relatively small issue for him.
TOR could suck. TOR could be great. TOR could be average.
Just wait and see.
Yep.
/signed.
The ACTUAL size of MMORPG worlds: a comparison list between MMO's
The ease with which predictions are made on these forums:
Fratman: "I'm saying Spring 2012 at the earliest [for TOR release]. Anyone still clinging to 2011 is deluding themself at this point."
I still say they wasted a lot of money making the game in German and French, stupid.
French is one of the more common langauges in the world and german composes something like 13% of the European speakers.
i think they will sell a decent amount of units at launch but won't retain the number of subscribers to break even on developement and marketing costs, even if those are only say $150 million.
why? because it has nothing new in the gameplay department. its a damn wow-clone with voice overs. woohoo. the story will be trademark bioware linearity. you have the good choice, the evil choice, and they both take you down the same exact path. and it has the Clone Wars space engine as a bonus!
i might pick it up in the bargain bin after it goes f2p.
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And how many of those can speak english?
Empiricism, making us americans seem less assholey since never.
Intolerance: It's the butter on our freedom toast.
Winnie Cooper from the Wonder Years did some lines too. BAM! Useless trivia that now you know. When trivial pursuit apocalypse comes, you'll thank me.
I agree with that too.
Just because he works for EA does not mean his opinion about the success of the game are better than anyone else's.
Still, he might know details about the game we don't yet know. I still wish Bioware would be more open with the game details and leave us less in guesswork. It did not do good to SWTOR to play this "neener neener, I have a secret, but I don't tell" game with us. And with $300 millions... sorry I just DO expect more than what we see *so far*. (races, space asf.) But that is more my personal letdown.
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
If he knew details about the game he would have been spouting more of them off. The problem with these games are that the community is so hard on them and trashing them that they wind up having such a negative image nobody will buy them. Even if they are good games. Aion is a damn good game, and look at all the negative trash talk it recieves. One of the best damn games I ever played, grinding in that game is NOT really that bad, and the Ganking is something that you can live with and have fun with.
If the game comes out and turns out to be majorly flawed , boring, or shitty in general , I can see people speaking out about it, but this game is not even out yet and they don't even have a real beta going on for it yet. It's pretty much alot unkown about this game. People need to cool it and lay off the game until it comes out. I think EA louse is just some person who is a fan of another game, or just some random TOR hater. Possibly this guy could work for EA, but who knows, we don't really know enough to prove he does.
"When it comes to GW2 any game is fair game"
Well I can see the logic of the compay to try to hide stuff that could be used to argue against. I will admit, some times things can be fun, which we did not expect when hearing about it. But the contrary is just as true.
Example: When D&L was developed they wrote about migrating mobs. When I read about it first, it sounded so cool to me, like more a living world. In reality, it just ended up as a CHORE, because I never knew where to find what, and I did not like it in reality. Per se, I don't think forum bashing (or praising for that matter) really has any considerable influence into box sales. I think that would totally overestimate our influence here. And as I said many times: EVERYONE will buy the box. No matter what. (Inlcuding myself, despite my regular anger about some revelations.) I mean, its STAR WARS and Bioware. All will buy it. So I don't think Bioware really has to worry about that. Not in this case of a game.
But the truth will come out either way, no matter what side is right. In the end, only the quality of the game will make it or break it. So if a MMO fails, it fails because it has flaws not because some few forum posters did anything. At least thats my opinion about it. So what is worse: to dupe people into buying a MMO that is is not for them, and then have legions of angry customers, or say right away what sort of MMO it is? I am really not sure what is better in the long run.
They try to make something different, and I can appreciate the courage, as a person. As a gamer however I have my gaming habits I cling to. Like, hating to play humans. Evaluating the wishes of a broad spectrum of gamers is IMVPO a wise choice when you spent 300 million dollars on a MMO. Just saying.
... I thought it was already clear EA louse is indeed a EA employee? Didn't this woman... what was her name? ... indirectly confirm it? Given that TOR is only a few lines in the long, long post, assuming he wanted to damage TOR seems a bit of a stretch IMO. But then, there wasn't really so much spectacular about TOR in the post, more about the culture in the game industry, and you are not REALLY surprised? I mean, it's like with movies or TV shows. We all want to believe the movies we love we made by people who all loved each other like one big family. We don't want to hear that the actors were bitches or that the batman actor beats his wife and mother. We don't want these things to ruin our illusion that behind the scenes of making entertainment there is a man eats man reality, because such is entertainment business. I can understand fans don't want to hear that. But I don't believe one minute that entertainment industry like game developing is one happy happy paradise work.
SWTOR will be... different. Whether we will in the end love or hate that remains to be seen. Sometimes I love what I see, sometimes I shake my head and think WTF how could they come to THIS.
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
To be fair to EALouse, he has to be careful about what he says otherwise they'll find out who he is and he'll probably have a lot of trouble getting a new job. If you notice he tends to give almost no specifics outside of what anyone working at Mythic presumably would have known/know. If he's one of the 15 people from Mythic (that's the number another blogger who id'd himself said) working on TOR and starts giving out information only those 15 know (or worse, that only a subset of them know), then he's just screwed himself over.
Naturally that doesn't change the fact that the wait and see approach is best here.
lol, really I'm not trying to hate, I understand what they are doing. It just sucks having to wait , so I'll blame it on the VO work. Been a long 4 years, that's 4 years since I gave up on SWG and hoped for another SW MMO.
if he is one of the "15 people " working at mythic than they already know who is next in line to be laid off therefore it wouldn't take much at all to find out who this guy is, just from the manner in which he speaks and the words he uses. How many people are getting laid off over there at mythic? Can't be no more than 1-3 or so people, not like they are laying off the whole crew.
Not to mention that if any of this is true they are probably planning on interrogating a few people about it, or trying to find out information in some other way. The number of layoffs for next month cannot be very high. Does anyone have an idea how many layoffs there will be?
"When it comes to GW2 any game is fair game"
There can be 2 explanations why this guy has posted this and neither is putting him in worse position:
1. He already knows that he will be fired. In that case post changes nothing except that they may additionally go tu jury with it
2. He perhaps is not on the list to be got rid of (basing on what he writes) but he is tired enough of sick situation inside Mythic (something that as the matter of fact has been know for already some time) and he simply doesn't care anymore. He is done with it this way or another.
In either case Mythic and he are past already so from his perspective there is no point in claiming anymore that everything is ok.
Now basing on what he wrote about SWTOR it's not really convincing to me that he is one of the guys working on it however it doesn't really mean that he is not. Just put yourself in place of someone that puts their whole heart in what they are doing, and then you still fail over and over again because of other ppl that do not care (which is somethong that as the matter of fact he described about Mythic).
I have always been of the assumption that the last 6 months of development on ANY game are the most stressful times for developers.
There is always a state of panic, you are always working late hours and there is never enough time. Its pretty much how any big project goes.
So even if this guy is telling the truth I think I would be more worried if SWTOR devs were not panicking at this point :P .
Playing: Tera, BF3, ME3
Waiting on: Guild Wars 2