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Calling out the claims of Aventurine / Tasos OR why I DON'T believe

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  • DraccanDraccan Member Posts: 1,050
    Originally posted by nathanpinard


    Mechanics of a game can be designed by one single person. I'm doing the same myself at the moment (more could be added later)
     
    It's taken those ideas and getting the programmers implement them that takes time. 8 years is a LOT of time for programming.
    Not to mention they created their own engine, therefore allowed ease of programming these features in the game, without limitations from other companies engines.

     

    LOL - so people use other peoples engines because it limits them?

    Even SW:TOR uses the hero engine..

    Darkfall has gone through many permutations. Do you think this is easily done? Restarting development over and over?

     

     

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  • kcc9889kcc9889 Member Posts: 84

    So are you ignoring my post because you are upset you lost.

  • GrayGhost79GrayGhost79 Member UncommonPosts: 4,775
    Originally posted by Ihmotepp

    Originally posted by GrayGhost79


     
    EA did pull off half of these features give or take a few when they did UO, this was back in the 90's.

     

    UO is a 2d game. Everything is harder and more time consuming when you do it in 3d.

     

    Edited to take out huge quote bomb.

     

    So we no longer acknowledge UO's 3D client ok sorry didn't know.

  • IhmoteppIhmotepp Member Posts: 14,495
    Originally posted by GrayGhost79

    Originally posted by Ihmotepp

    Originally posted by GrayGhost79


     
    EA did pull off half of these features give or take a few when they did UO, this was back in the 90's.

     

    UO is a 2d game. Everything is harder and more time consuming when you do it in 3d.

     

    Edited to take out huge quote bomb.

     

    So we no longer acknowledge UO's 3D client ok sorry didn't know.

     

     

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  • GrayGhost79GrayGhost79 Member UncommonPosts: 4,775

    Never said the 3D client was good, just pointing out they had one.

  • xxpigxxxxpigxx Member UncommonPosts: 412

    OP got owned  many times in this thread alone . . . yet he keeps on going

     

    lol

     

    Someone has issues . . .

     

  • DraccanDraccan Member Posts: 1,050
    Originally posted by xxpigxx


    OP got owned  many times in this thread alone . . . yet he keeps on going
     
    lol
     
    Someone has issues . . .
     

     

    Maybe you should work on your reading comprehension skills?

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  • xxpigxxxxpigxx Member UncommonPosts: 412

    or maybe you should work on yours?

     

     

    You have one valid point . . . that is the updating of the website . . . which to me is no biggy . . . as all the info is in the forums anyways.

     

    Other than that . . . answers and videos have been provided, but you choose to ignore them.

     

  • originaleggoriginalegg Member Posts: 1,099
    Originally posted by xxpigxx


    or maybe you should work on yours?
     
     
    You have one valid point . . . that is the updating of the website . . . which to me is no biggy . . . as all the info is in the forums anyways.
     
    Other than that . . . answers and videos have been provided, but you choose to ignore them.
     



     

    What do you expect from some troll who posted the following:

    "I am surprised mmorgp.com hasn't removed this game already. It incites flaming and is not real. Will never be released and everyone except maybe 10 fanboys no this to be a fact!

     

    So mmorgp.com - go ahead and remove the game from the forum, please!"

     

     -Draccan

     

    Im shocked this thread is still going.  It is fun watching him rant though and every post is him admitting he is wrong in his own way.

    Lol i predict if he responds to this post he will not comment on how ridiculous and wrong his comment was...and say somehing like yes i was right because this forum does incite flames...thanks for showing i was right.

     

  • makervsmmakervsm Member Posts: 36
    Originally posted by Draccan  

    64.

    Who is making this game?

    Darkfall is being made by Aventurine SA, a company based in Athens, Greece.

     

    Sorry, I'm late. I love how you included things like this in your list of things that haven't been proven. This proves that the OP was just a trolling attempt. So why wasn't this post removed like so many other less obvious trolling attempts? Well, Jon Wood and company hate Darkfall, especially since he has such a huge boner for that piece of shit game WAR. He tries to act like he cares about this sandbox game, but he resents it because it doesn't sound easy mode and if it is remotely successful it will destroy his easy mode carebear bullshit game that is already on the decline.

    Thanks for your time.

  • xxpigxxxxpigxx Member UncommonPosts: 412
    Originally posted by imbant


    OP:  I want an explaination to these questions
    Poster:  Here is the explanation...and you can also just wait to see for yourself in like a month
    OP:  Oh that explanation and proof is all faked I dont believe it
    Poster:  Ok how about this proof
    OP:  Clearly fake and a scam
    Poster:  Ok here is a picture of the sun I took about 5 seconds ago, i think it is proof that it still exists.
    OP:  Clearly a faked picture and it does not convince me that the sun exists
    Poster:  Well what time zone are you in?  Maybe look out the window and see for yourself?  Just trying to help..
    OP:  Not good enough, someone may have put a big screen over my house and is projecting the cgi image of a fake sun.  Nope i dont buy it.
    OP:  I want answers!  Why is everyone unable to answer my claims!!!!

    Summed it up quite nicely

     

  • siftifiedsiftified Member Posts: 258

    Pointless thread.

    Everything that can be said about Darkfall has already been said. Why don't we all just wait until open beta or release, and then us fanbois can start praising the game, while you trolls start your omglolz threads.

    looking at the way that the marketing campaign has been taken by alot of the new-gen MMO players, you'd think that not offering pre-orders was on the same level as cockslapping baby jesus before throwing him into a pit of starved wolves.

     

  • Aragon100Aragon100 Member RarePosts: 2,686
    Originally posted by DarthRaiden

    Originally posted by Draccan


     
    Let's look at some more features:
    Ships and Naval Warfare:
    (quoted from Staatsschutz - just like many other green quotes in this thread by me)
    Ship movement is affected by prevailing weather conditions (AR 6, SR 8) Source: http://rpgvault.ign.com/articles/736/736911p1.html
    Sophisticated fleet engagements with dozens of ships on each side, attacks on land from the sea, and combined land-sea operations are all possible in Darkfall (AR 2, SR 8) Source: http://rpgvault.ign.com/articles/736/736911p1.html
    There will be Sea Monsters in Darkfall (AR 7, SR 8) Source: http://df.warcry.com/forums/read/270.43023
    A cannonball shot off a ship can not only damage but physically disorient an entire party by blowing them away (AR 6, SR 7) Source: http://www.womengamers.com/interviews/darkfall.php
    We were on a smaller eight-gun ship, but they said the largest is huge with 50-guns (AR 6, SR 8) Source: http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=43219
    You can shoot from each cannon (AR 8, SR 8) Source: http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=43219
    The cannon can be destroyed, the ship can be sunk, you can board the ship and kill, or you can just make your way to the captain who steers it and turn the guns away from your ship (AR 5, SR 8) Source: http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=43219
    You can bombard buildings or even people on the shore from the ship (AR 7, SR 8) Source: http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=43219
    Sooo Funcom and WAR had to cut classes. AoC launched with sieges even in the game. Just look at the above. What does it look like?
    I will tell you what it looks like... it looks like something that is being THOUGHT UP. Like I sit down and write a list of everything I can think of to put in the game.
    Can anyone just show ONE VIDEO of any of these features being in the game?
    Just one?
    ONE??
    ANYONE?
     
    I didn't think so. Therefore I have to say - a month before release - DARKFALL is a scam!
    And mmorpg.com is a proxy for Darkfall / Aventurine / Tasos
     

     

    LOL i think that will hit you now ..watch before you fall down

    www.youtube.com/watch

     All in yellow have being demonstrated  by this 

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    Boarding of ships

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    Capture  ship

     



     

    Kind of surpriced Draccan didnt know about that video?

    He that seem to have such insight in Darkfall?

    Claiming this and that without having the basic knowledge of Darkfall makes Draccan look very untrustful.

  • Aragon100Aragon100 Member RarePosts: 2,686
    Originally posted by Draccan

    Originally posted by GrayGhost79

    Originally posted by DarthRaiden

    Originally posted by Draccan


     
    Let's look at some more features:
    Ships and Naval Warfare:
    ...........................

     

     

    LOL i think that will hit you now ..watch before you fall down

    www.youtube.com/watch

     

     

    Yeah it's funny that most of what he claims is a scam is in that Vid lol. Pretty fitting if you ask me lol.I hope he watches all 6 parts though to see how truely foolish he looks to everyone after his rant. 

     

    I have seen this scripted piece of **** many times. There is no shred of evidence in there...

    Let real people play all these features... video them... real gameplay.. no bs.

    They can't and they haven't!



     

    Hahahaha you just made a total fool of yourself and you get the evidence presented to your face and still deny them?

  • DeathTrippDeathTripp Member UncommonPosts: 263

    Yeah that video was REALLY nicely edited , can make even a crappy game look good. Oh yeah not to mention it looked like crap anyways lol

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  • Aragon100Aragon100 Member RarePosts: 2,686
    Originally posted by makervsm

    Originally posted by Draccan  

    64.

    Who is making this game?

    Darkfall is being made by Aventurine SA, a company based in Athens, Greece.

     

    Sorry, I'm late. I love how you included things like this in your list of things that haven't been proven. This proves that the OP was just a trolling attempt. So why wasn't this post removed like so many other less obvious trolling attempts? Well, Jon Wood and company hate Darkfall, especially since he has such a huge boner for that piece of shit game WAR. He tries to act like he cares about this sandbox game, but he resents it because it doesn't sound easy mode and if it is remotely successful it will destroy his easy mode carebear bullshit game that is already on the decline.


    Thanks for your time.



     

    Agree. This sums up what this thread was really about.

    Draccan isnt here discussing Darkfall cause he want something good to come out of it. He is afraid of Darkfall and what it might do to his carebear game.

  • GrisuGrisu Member UncommonPosts: 227

    @OP i like how ur not backing down. i think all the followers shouldjust HOPE for the game to have it all and not believe that it will.

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  • mewzymewzy Member Posts: 67

    I remember like it was yesterday "There was a open beta of aoc" where 3 guys said the game is great and not buggy at all. After that there was loads of posts replying "now all the nay sayers can stfu". Op just really give up, they see what they want to see.

    I agree with you no matter i wish you are wrong or that i am wrong, but dont bother with them. People will see what they want to see.

     

     

  • JohnCreedJohnCreed Member CommonPosts: 67

    Pathetic. Someone posts a legitimate gripe against Darkfall and the hordes of teenage fanboys charge in to attack him. Did he attack you, your family, or your loved ones? So why are you guys crying so much? If you guys don't agree with his opinion then find another thread to read.

  • downtoearthdowntoearth Member Posts: 3,558
    Originally posted by mewzy


    I remember like it was yesterday "There was a open beta of aoc" where 3 guys said the game is great and not buggy at all. After that there was loads of posts replying "now all the nay sayers can stfu". Op just really give up, they see what they want to see.
    I agree with you no matter i wish you are wrong or that i am wrong, but dont bother with them. People will see what they want to see.
     
     

     

    lol a a few people said it was great well before that people where sayign it wasnt so yea.

    heres a diffrence

    darfall will have a free trial like eve (i bet there will be) try before oyu buy

    AOc had a fileplanet subscriber open beta LMAO

     

     

  • downtoearthdowntoearth Member Posts: 3,558
    Originally posted by JohnCreed


    Pathetic. Someone posts a legitimate gripe against Darkfall and the hordes of teenage fanboys charge in to attack him. Did he attack you, your family, or your loved ones? So why are you guys crying so much? If you guys don't agree with his opinion then find another thread to read.

     

    dude it was a troll post ... its simple as that its kinda legitmate ina  wya but the wau he come soff pisses people off sorry you dont see i that way

  • MahloMahlo Member UncommonPosts: 814
    Originally posted by Draccan


    So let's talk about the PR.
     
    Okay they have little budget for PR. Okay, I can buy that.
    But for a company with a little budget for PR it would be crucial to make a good viral campaign. Instead of doing that they have alienated a large player base with promises no large company with 300+ developers could achieve. They claim to have built and re-built their own engine and create more features than any mmo out there over 7-8 years- despite saying development really started later.
    It would be obvious that a game company with no PR budget would use mmorpg.com and many of the other western websites for online gaming for free, with previews etc.
    If this game is feature complete why not show it off? Let's see those large underworlds and sea kingdoms, building of player cities and sieges and all. How can they even claim to be able to have 10s of thousands on a server when there is NO testing above a few dozens of people?
    So what not do FREE PR? It makes no sense whatsoever.
    If what they claim in the feature list was true it wouldn't be an online game but the second coming of Messias. Sangreal incarnated (or onlinenated)..
    They haven't even updated their website a month before launch. Surely even a small team like that could ask someone to update the website. Hey even ask a friend to do it. How long can it take for a pro.
     
    Everything I know of gaming, business, life and common sense, tells me this game will either never launch or will launch with 1000th of a fraction of what they promised.
    THAT is why they are not showing the game. That is why there is no PR, that is why they don't take preorders (not wanting to be sued)..
     
    Use common sense, people. Please!



     

    Common sense is in short supply around here. The fact that the release date isn't on the DF website is hilarious! No doubt it's another example of Aventurine's revolutionary approach to marketing.  they can't do anything right. And people think there is going to be a good game at the end of all this!

  • damian7damian7 Member Posts: 4,449

    maybe the list in the op, should be presented to tasos (in the next mmorpg.com interview?) and asked how much of it is still updated/current?

     

    could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?

  • DarthRaidenDarthRaiden Member UncommonPosts: 4,333
    Originally posted by Mahlo




     
    Common sense is in short supply around here. The fact that the release date isn't on the DF website is hilarious! No doubt it's another example of Aventurine's revolutionary approach to marketing.  they can't do anything right. And people think there is going to be a good game at the end of all this!

     

    They just made sure ..you don't find it..They don't want YOU in the game obviouisly...whats a good thing if you asked me...

    I had no problem to find the release date ..

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