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Star Citizen: Alpha 1.1.5 PTU Now Available

ShelassaShelassa MMORPG.COM Staff UncommonPosts: 616

RSI has just posted on the Star Citizen site that the 1.1.5 Alpha is now available on the Public Test Universe (PTU). 

Star Citizen 1.1.5 is now available on the Public Test Universe! The PTU is our ‘test’ server, designed for letting the Star Citizen community review earlier builds of the game than our standard live server. If you’re interested in joining the PTU test for 1.1.5, you can learn how in the PTU FAQ. Patch 1.1.5 adds two flyable ships, the Scythe and the Merlin, as well as a host of balance changes and bug fixes. 

You can find out more at the Star Citizen site

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  • Kunai_VaxKunai_Vax Member RarePosts: 527
    I guess this is to help put worried minds at ease...?

  • Mighty_PlatypusMighty_Platypus Member UncommonPosts: 101
    I backed this game with a ship purchase, and I want it to come to fruition, but I wonder if these responses they are having are enough. Honestly, I am starting to think Smart may have found something to go after them on. Pledging 1M to investigate their spending and what they are actually releasing. RSI be feeling the heat, and that isn't good for the game, but it is good for gaming as a whole if this gets blown up and shows foul play. I hope it isn't, but I am starting to wonder.
     
  • GyrusGyrus Member UncommonPosts: 2,413

    This will be interesting no matter how it goes.

    If it is awesome then the "White Knights" will be most triumphant.

    If it isn't then the "Black Knights" will begin a reign of terror!

     

    Either way... the Interwebz will be locked up like the mother of all DDos attack.

     

    My advice - order the Ultimate Mega Bucket of popcorn.

    Save the interwebs!  You can do that by right clicking on you browser and where it says "Save Page As" click "Everything - "Entire Interwebz"

    Nothing says irony like spelling ideot wrong.

  • observerobserver Member RarePosts: 3,685
    I guess Star Citizen fans can thank Derek Smart.  None of this would have happened if he wasn't so vocal.
  • LacedOpiumLacedOpium Member EpicPosts: 2,327
    Originally posted by observer
    I guess Star Citizen fans can thank Derek Smart.  None of this would have happened if he wasn't so vocal.

     

    Yep, now we're suddenly starting to see some progress. Hmm, I wonder why?  It couldn't have been because of that *insert bad four letter words here*  DSmart, could it?

     

    /smh

     

  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
    Originally posted by observer
    I guess Star Citizen fans can thank Derek Smart.  None of this would have happened if he wasn't so vocal.

    I must admit that I find it very coincidental that within a week of Mr. Smart's allegations, we now have the FPS module in 3-5 weeks (instead of the projected 10 months) and a brand new PTU build. Let's hope that at least some resolution is brought to the whole issue.


    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 


  • YaevinduskYaevindusk Member RarePosts: 2,094
    Originally posted by observer
    I guess Star Citizen fans can thank Derek Smart.  None of this would have happened if he wasn't so vocal.

     

    Short term excitement. 

     

    Rushing anything for the sake of the vocal will lead to a lesser of anything made.

     

    This would only be the case if they were 100% ready to release whatever it is they they have and, for some reason, delayed it.  Which would call for people calling them out, and that's not something you want (even if a person would have done it anyway due to promoting their own selves or because there is so much money in play).

     

    Who is to say what is the truth in this case.

    Due to frequent travel in my youth, English isn't something I consider my primary language (and thus I obtained quirky ways of writing).  German and French were always easier for me despite my family being U.S. citizens for over a century.  Spanish I learned as a requirement in school, Japanese and Korean I acquired for my youthful desire of anime and gaming (and also work now).  I only debate in English to help me work with it (and limit things).  In addition, I'm not smart enough to remain fluent in everything and typically need exposure to get in the groove of things again if I haven't heard it in a while.  If you understand Mandarin, I know a little, but it has actually been a challenge and could use some help.

    Also, I thoroughly enjoy debates and have accounts on over a dozen sites for this.  If you wish to engage in such, please put effort in a post and provide sources -- I will then do the same with what I already wrote (if I didn't) as well as with my responses to your own.  Expanding my information on a subject makes my stance either change or strengthen the next time I speak of it or write a thesis.  Allow me to thank you sincerely for your time.
  • GyrusGyrus Member UncommonPosts: 2,413
    Originally posted by observer
    I guess Star Citizen fans can thank Derek Smart.  None of this would have happened if he wasn't so vocal.

    That's kind of a worry really.  That may not be true - but that is how it looks. 

    Expect a Press Release from CIG/RSI saying "Our decision to release had nothing to do with Derek Smart... it was always planned and scheduled... part of the ongoing process..."

    But it will always look like a 'loud voice' achieved this - that is no doubt how it will be remembered too.

    Unfortunately that will also put pressure on other developers from now on.  Particularly crowdfunded ones.

     

    Then again, crowdfunding has been a bad idea for a while.  The sooner the trend toward crowdfunding games dies the better IMHO.

    Nothing says irony like spelling ideot wrong.

  • H0urg1assH0urg1ass Member EpicPosts: 2,380
    Originally posted by Yaevindusk
    Originally posted by observer
    I guess Star Citizen fans can thank Derek Smart.  None of this would have happened if he wasn't so vocal.

     

    Rushing anything for the sake of the vocal will lead to a lesser of anything made.

    I'm sorry, but at this point nothing that RSI puts out could even remotely be considered "rushing" unless you've been living near the accretion disk of a black hole for the past few years.

     

    Originally posted by Gyrus 

    Then again, crowdfunding has been a bad idea for a while.  The sooner the trend toward crowdfunding games dies the better IMHO.

    QFT

  • BoneserinoBoneserino Member UncommonPosts: 1,768

    Coincidental indeed!

     

    This game will be be a mess and in Alpha/Beta for years while ship sales continue ad nauseaum.

    FFA Nonconsentual Full Loot PvP ...You know you want it!!

  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    Originally posted by h0urg1ass
    Originally posted by Yaevindusk
    Originally posted by observer
    I guess Star Citizen fans can thank Derek Smart.  None of this would have happened if he wasn't so vocal.

     

    Rushing anything for the sake of the vocal will lead to a lesser of anything made.

    I'm sorry, but at this point nothing that RSI puts out could even remotely be considered "rushing" unless you've been living near the accretion disk of a black hole for the past few years.

     

    You know what results in broken promises, rushed products, half assed attempts, etc?  Impatience. It happens in the publishing world all of the time... you just don't see it Publicly in this manner, this is the result of the public being your investor... "Hey we need to delay..th"... "What, What What?!?!?!? It's a scam, call the LAW!!!!", the answer: "well okay here's the shitola sandwich you demanded..." Just as it would be served under the control of a shovelware publisher..

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • ishistishist Member UncommonPosts: 213

    People will claim they were reacting to Smart regardless of when they released. There will be a sub-set of people who will dementedly credit Smart with everything that happens in Star Citizen for the rest of forever. That was almost certainly one of Smart's goals in creating this circus.

    Smart will now be associated with Star Citizen by force of Troll. If Star Citizen ultimately fails, Smart will proclaim to the masses that he was right and that everyone should immediately buy whatever piece of garbage he has been cobbling together. If Star Citizen ultimately succeeds, Smart will claim that it is because of his influence alone that the project didn't fail and everyone should immediately buy whatever piece of garbage he has been cobbling together.

    The Internet as a whole can be embarrassingly stupid.

     
     

    In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. - Douglas Adams

  • GyrusGyrus Member UncommonPosts: 2,413
    Originally posted by ishist

    People will claim they were reacting to Smart regardless of when they released. There will be a sub-set of people who will dementedly credit Smart with everything that happens in Star Citizen for the rest of forever. That was almost certainly one of Smart's goals in creating this circus.

    Smart will now be associated with Star Citizen by force of Troll. If Star Citizen ultimately fails, Smart will proclaim to the masses that he was right and that everyone should immediately buy whatever piece of garbage he has been cobbling together. If Star Citizen ultimately succeeds, Smart will claim that it is because of his influence alone that the project didn't fail and everyone should immediately buy whatever piece of garbage he has been cobbling together.

    The Internet as a whole can be embarrassingly stupid.

     
     

    / wins the interwebz.

    Nothing says irony like spelling ideot wrong.

  • BoneserinoBoneserino Member UncommonPosts: 1,768
    Originally posted by Gyrus
    Originally posted by ishist

    People will claim they were reacting to Smart regardless of when they released. There will be a sub-set of people who will dementedly credit Smart with everything that happens in Star Citizen for the rest of forever. That was almost certainly one of Smart's goals in creating this circus.

    Smart will now be associated with Star Citizen by force of Troll. If Star Citizen ultimately fails, Smart will proclaim to the masses that he was right and that everyone should immediately buy whatever piece of garbage he has been cobbling together. If Star Citizen ultimately succeeds, Smart will claim that it is because of his influence alone that the project didn't fail and everyone should immediately buy whatever piece of garbage he has been cobbling together.

    The Internet as a whole can be embarrassingly stupid.

     
     

    / wins the interwebz.

    Says who?

    FFA Nonconsentual Full Loot PvP ...You know you want it!!

  • LacedOpiumLacedOpium Member EpicPosts: 2,327
    Originally posted by ishist

    People will claim they were reacting to Smart regardless of when they released. There will be a sub-set of people who will dementedly credit Smart with everything that happens in Star Citizen for the rest of forever. That was almost certainly one of Smart's goals in creating this circus.

    Smart will now be associated with Star Citizen by force of Troll. If Star Citizen ultimately fails, Smart will proclaim to the masses that he was right and that everyone should immediately buy whatever piece of garbage he has been cobbling together. If Star Citizen ultimately succeeds, Smart will claim that it is because of his influence alone that the project didn't fail and everyone should immediately buy whatever piece of garbage he has been cobbling together.

    The Internet as a whole can be embarrassingly stupid.

     
     

     

    And so what?  We're getting our accountability and that's all that matters.  This has never been about Derek Smart for those of us who shared the same concerns he voiced and were able to separate the messenger from the message.  The objective has always been about accountability.  You Derek Smart haters made it about Derek Smart so why should he not get the credit when you made it all about him?  If you haters had never made this all about Derek Smart, it would have never been all about Derek Smart, and he would not be getting any credit.  But since you made it about him, now he will be vindicated and rightly so.  I bet that egg all over your faces doesn't feel very good right about now *laughs*

  • WarleyWarley Member UncommonPosts: 508
    Originally posted by Boneserino
    Originally posted by Gyrus
    Originally posted by ishist

    People will claim they were reacting to Smart regardless of when they released. There will be a sub-set of people who will dementedly credit Smart with everything that happens in Star Citizen for the rest of forever. That was almost certainly one of Smart's goals in creating this circus.

    Smart will now be associated with Star Citizen by force of Troll. If Star Citizen ultimately fails, Smart will proclaim to the masses that he was right and that everyone should immediately buy whatever piece of garbage he has been cobbling together. If Star Citizen ultimately succeeds, Smart will claim that it is because of his influence alone that the project didn't fail and everyone should immediately buy whatever piece of garbage he has been cobbling together.

    The Internet as a whole can be embarrassingly stupid.

     
     

    / wins the interwebz.

    Says who?

    I agree that /wins the interwebz!

  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    Originally posted by LacedOpium
    Originally posted by ishist

    People will claim they were reacting to Smart regardless of when they released. There will be a sub-set of people who will dementedly credit Smart with everything that happens in Star Citizen for the rest of forever. That was almost certainly one of Smart's goals in creating this circus.

    Smart will now be associated with Star Citizen by force of Troll. If Star Citizen ultimately fails, Smart will proclaim to the masses that he was right and that everyone should immediately buy whatever piece of garbage he has been cobbling together. If Star Citizen ultimately succeeds, Smart will claim that it is because of his influence alone that the project didn't fail and everyone should immediately buy whatever piece of garbage he has been cobbling together.

    The Internet as a whole can be embarrassingly stupid.

     
     

     

    And so what?  We're getting our accountability and that's all that matters.  This has never been about Derek Smart for those of us who shared the same concerns he voiced and were able to separate the messenger from the message.  The objective has always been about accountability.  You Derek Smart haters are the only one's sweating over Derek Smart and the credit he will, or will not be getting.  If you haters had never made this all about Derek Smart, it would have never been all about Derek Smart.  You made it all about him, so now he will get the credit for your vindictiveness and receive vindication as a result.  That's usually how it works.  You made your bed, now lay in it.

    Didn't your last post say this? "Yep, now we're suddenly starting to see some progress. Hmm, I wonder why?  It couldn't have been because of that *insert bad four letter words here*  DSmart, could it?"

    You can't have it both ways.... Secondly you folks who couldn't understand why other folks were talking about Derek Smart are the only ones who could not separate one from the other. Because over and over you acted as though it couldn't be done...

    One track minds think that way... People talk about Star Citizen in a manner that is pertinent to it, people talk about Derek Smart in a manner that is Pertinent to him.. They are two different things...Talking about Smart isn't saying nothing is going on.

     

     

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • LacedOpiumLacedOpium Member EpicPosts: 2,327
    Originally posted by Distopia
    Originally posted by LacedOpium
    Originally posted by ishist

    People will claim they were reacting to Smart regardless of when they released. There will be a sub-set of people who will dementedly credit Smart with everything that happens in Star Citizen for the rest of forever. That was almost certainly one of Smart's goals in creating this circus.

    Smart will now be associated with Star Citizen by force of Troll. If Star Citizen ultimately fails, Smart will proclaim to the masses that he was right and that everyone should immediately buy whatever piece of garbage he has been cobbling together. If Star Citizen ultimately succeeds, Smart will claim that it is because of his influence alone that the project didn't fail and everyone should immediately buy whatever piece of garbage he has been cobbling together.

    The Internet as a whole can be embarrassingly stupid.

     
     

     

    And so what?  We're getting our accountability and that's all that matters.  This has never been about Derek Smart for those of us who shared the same concerns he voiced and were able to separate the messenger from the message.  The objective has always been about accountability.  You Derek Smart haters are the only one's sweating over Derek Smart and the credit he will, or will not be getting.  If you haters had never made this all about Derek Smart, it would have never been all about Derek Smart.  You made it all about him, so now he will get the credit for your vindictiveness and receive vindication as a result.  That's usually how it works.  You made your bed, now lay in it.

    Didn't your last post say this? "Yep, now we're suddenly starting to see some progress. Hmm, I wonder why?  It couldn't have been because of that *insert bad four letter words here*  DSmart, could it?"

    You can't have it both ways.... Secondly you folks who couldn't understand why other folks were talking about Derek Smart are the only ones who could not separate one from the other. Because over and over you acted as though it couldn't be done...

    One track minds think that way... People talk about Star Citizen in a manner that is pertinent to it, people talk about Derek Smart in a manner that is Pertinent to him.. They are two different things...Talking about Smart isn't saying nothing is going on.

     

     

     

    Yes it did.  Was the sarcasm lost on you?

  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    Originally posted by LacedOpium
    Originally posted by Distopia
    Originally posted by LacedOpium
    Originally posted by ishist

    People will claim they were reacting to Smart regardless of when they released. There will be a sub-set of people who will dementedly credit Smart with everything that happens in Star Citizen for the rest of forever. That was almost certainly one of Smart's goals in creating this circus.

    Smart will now be associated with Star Citizen by force of Troll. If Star Citizen ultimately fails, Smart will proclaim to the masses that he was right and that everyone should immediately buy whatever piece of garbage he has been cobbling together. If Star Citizen ultimately succeeds, Smart will claim that it is because of his influence alone that the project didn't fail and everyone should immediately buy whatever piece of garbage he has been cobbling together.

    The Internet as a whole can be embarrassingly stupid.

     
     

     

    And so what?  We're getting our accountability and that's all that matters.  This has never been about Derek Smart for those of us who shared the same concerns he voiced and were able to separate the messenger from the message.  The objective has always been about accountability.  You Derek Smart haters are the only one's sweating over Derek Smart and the credit he will, or will not be getting.  If you haters had never made this all about Derek Smart, it would have never been all about Derek Smart.  You made it all about him, so now he will get the credit for your vindictiveness and receive vindication as a result.  That's usually how it works.  You made your bed, now lay in it.

    Didn't your last post say this? "Yep, now we're suddenly starting to see some progress. Hmm, I wonder why?  It couldn't have been because of that *insert bad four letter words here*  DSmart, could it?"

    You can't have it both ways.... Secondly you folks who couldn't understand why other folks were talking about Derek Smart are the only ones who could not separate one from the other. Because over and over you acted as though it couldn't be done...

    One track minds think that way... People talk about Star Citizen in a manner that is pertinent to it, people talk about Derek Smart in a manner that is Pertinent to him.. They are two different things...Talking about Smart isn't saying nothing is going on.

     

     

     

    Yes it did.  Was the sarcasm lost on you?

    Considering you're other posts praising DS over and over quite weirdly, why would I assume you're being sarcastic now?

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • LacedOpiumLacedOpium Member EpicPosts: 2,327
    Originally posted by Distopia
    Originally posted by LacedOpium
    Originally posted by Distopia
    Originally posted by LacedOpium
    Originally posted by ishist

    People will claim they were reacting to Smart regardless of when they released. There will be a sub-set of people who will dementedly credit Smart with everything that happens in Star Citizen for the rest of forever. That was almost certainly one of Smart's goals in creating this circus.

    Smart will now be associated with Star Citizen by force of Troll. If Star Citizen ultimately fails, Smart will proclaim to the masses that he was right and that everyone should immediately buy whatever piece of garbage he has been cobbling together. If Star Citizen ultimately succeeds, Smart will claim that it is because of his influence alone that the project didn't fail and everyone should immediately buy whatever piece of garbage he has been cobbling together.

    The Internet as a whole can be embarrassingly stupid.

     
     

     

    And so what?  We're getting our accountability and that's all that matters.  This has never been about Derek Smart for those of us who shared the same concerns he voiced and were able to separate the messenger from the message.  The objective has always been about accountability.  You Derek Smart haters are the only one's sweating over Derek Smart and the credit he will, or will not be getting.  If you haters had never made this all about Derek Smart, it would have never been all about Derek Smart.  You made it all about him, so now he will get the credit for your vindictiveness and receive vindication as a result.  That's usually how it works.  You made your bed, now lay in it.

    Didn't your last post say this? "Yep, now we're suddenly starting to see some progress. Hmm, I wonder why?  It couldn't have been because of that *insert bad four letter words here*  DSmart, could it?"

    You can't have it both ways.... Secondly you folks who couldn't understand why other folks were talking about Derek Smart are the only ones who could not separate one from the other. Because over and over you acted as though it couldn't be done...

    One track minds think that way... People talk about Star Citizen in a manner that is pertinent to it, people talk about Derek Smart in a manner that is Pertinent to him.. They are two different things...Talking about Smart isn't saying nothing is going on.

     

     

     

    Yes it did.  Was the sarcasm lost on you?

    Considering you're other posts praising DS over and over quite weirdly, why would I assume you're being sarcastic now?

     

    You didn't quote any of the other posts, you quoted this one.  And this one was clearly expressing sarcasm.  

    BTW, have you heard that suddenly things are starting to progress over at CIG with Star Citizen?  What a revelation, huh!  Must be have been a miracle ... or is it magic?  *laughs*

  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    Originally posted by LacedOpium
     

     

    You didn't quote the other posts, you quoted this one.  And this one was clearly expressing sarcasm.  

    BTW, have you heard that suddenly things are starting to progress over at CIG with Star Citizen.  What a revelation or was it magic?  *laughs*

    TBH the only thing that comes off in your posts is hostility, no matter what you're saying which kind of drowns out anything else you're portraying...That's just me though, and sure, I see they're caving and rushing to keep public perception up, the question is whether that's a sound move... What's the point in getting what you want if it isn't given the proper time it needs?

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • LacedOpiumLacedOpium Member EpicPosts: 2,327
    Originally posted by Distopia
    Originally posted by LacedOpium
     

     

    You didn't quote the other posts, you quoted this one.  And this one was clearly expressing sarcasm.  

    BTW, have you heard that suddenly things are starting to progress over at CIG with Star Citizen.  What a revelation or was it magic?  *laughs*

    TBH the only thing that comes off in your posts is hostility, no matter what you're saying which kind of drowns out anything else you're portraying...That's just me though, and sure, I see they're caving and rushing to keep public perception up, the question is whether that's a sound move... What's the point in getting what you want if it isn't given the proper time it needs?

     

    Is the only thing you can resort to when you don't like the response from another poster is coming off as some time of victim?  Can you not respond to a post without alluding to some type of personal "hostile" victimization?  There is nothing hostile about my posts.  If my posts hurt you so much, don't respond to them?  That's shouldn't be too hard to do, could it?  Please develop thicker skin or avoid responding to my posts.  This labeling others as being hostile when it is nothing more than having a debate gets old really quick.  They are the type of keywords that many posters in this forum resort to in order to try to get another poster banned.  If you want to debate, then let's debate but please lose the weak BS talk.  It gets irritating.

  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    Originally posted by LacedOpium
    Originally posted by Distopia
    Originally posted by LacedOpium
     

     

    You didn't quote the other posts, you quoted this one.  And this one was clearly expressing sarcasm.  

    BTW, have you heard that suddenly things are starting to progress over at CIG with Star Citizen.  What a revelation or was it magic?  *laughs*

    TBH the only thing that comes off in your posts is hostility, no matter what you're saying which kind of drowns out anything else you're portraying...That's just me though, and sure, I see they're caving and rushing to keep public perception up, the question is whether that's a sound move... What's the point in getting what you want if it isn't given the proper time it needs?

     

    Is the only thing you can resort to when you don't like the response from another poster is coming off as some time of victim?  Can you not respond to a post without alluding to some type of personal "hostile" victimization?  There is nothing hostile about my posts.  If my posts hurt you so much, don't respond to them?  That's shouldn't be too hard to do, could it?  Please develop thicker skin or avoid responding to my posts.  This labeling others as being hostile when it is nothing more than having a debate gets old really quick.  They are the type of keywords that many posters in this forum resort to in order to try to get another poster banned.  If you want to debate, then let's debate but please lose the weak BS talk.  It gets irritating.

    Seeing you as hostile has nothing to do with being hurt... Being hostile isn't something I view as an attack nor bannable either, hostility is just heightened emotion. Which hey you just might be passionate.

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • LacedOpiumLacedOpium Member EpicPosts: 2,327
    Originally posted by Distopia
    Originally posted by LacedOpium
    Originally posted by Distopia
    Originally posted by LacedOpium
     

     

    You didn't quote the other posts, you quoted this one.  And this one was clearly expressing sarcasm.  

    BTW, have you heard that suddenly things are starting to progress over at CIG with Star Citizen.  What a revelation or was it magic?  *laughs*

    TBH the only thing that comes off in your posts is hostility, no matter what you're saying which kind of drowns out anything else you're portraying...That's just me though, and sure, I see they're caving and rushing to keep public perception up, the question is whether that's a sound move... What's the point in getting what you want if it isn't given the proper time it needs?

     

    Is the only thing you can resort to when you don't like the response from another poster is coming off as some time of victim?  Can you not respond to a post without alluding to some type of personal "hostile" victimization?  There is nothing hostile about my posts.  If my posts hurt you so much, don't respond to them?  That's shouldn't be too hard to do, could it?  Please develop thicker skin or avoid responding to my posts.  This labeling others as being hostile when it is nothing more than having a debate gets old really quick.  They are the type of keywords that many posters in this forum resort to in order to try to get another poster banned.  If you want to debate, then let's debate but please lose the weak BS talk.  It gets irritating.

    Seeing you as hostile has nothing to do with being hurt... Being hostile isn't something I view as bannable either, hostility is just heightened emotion. Which hey you just might be passionate.

     

    Can you do me a favor and just respond to my posts without making it personal?  Just respond to the message in my post.  That is all I ask.

  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    Originally posted by LacedOpium
    Originally posted by Distopia

    ghs*

     

     

    Is the only thing you can resort to when you don't like the response from another poster is coming off as some time of victim?  Can you not respond to a post without alluding to some type of personal "hostile" victimization?  There is nothing hostile about my posts.  If my posts hurt you so much, don't respond to them?  That's shouldn't be too hard to do, could it?  Please develop thicker skin or avoid responding to my posts.  This labeling others as being hostile when it is nothing more than having a debate gets old really quick.  They are the type of keywords that many posters in this forum resort to in order to try to get another poster banned.  If you want to debate, then let's debate but please lose the weak BS talk.  It gets irritating.

    Seeing you as hostile has nothing to do with being hurt... Being hostile isn't something I view as bannable either, hostility is just heightened emotion. Which hey you just might be passionate.

     

    Can you do me a favor and just respond to my post without making it personal?  Just respond to the message in my post.  That is all I ask.

    I wasn't trying to do that by simply saying why i missed the sarcasm, which was the point of your post :)..

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


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